From Mat Ward's own Twitter:
https://twitter.com/thetowerofstars/status/760503644076793856


I wonder what he'll be working on...

Hopefully the next Necron codex...

Let Matt write the next Blood Angels codex!

Maybe a novel or two?

I think he's going to be the main plot writer for the AoSification of 40k

Just in time for some 40k End Times action. Oh Draigo and Calgar will have such a grand time. Will they take Magnus's other eye?

 Eldarain wrote:
Just in time for some 40k End Times action. Oh Draigo and Calgar will have such a grand time. Will they take Magnus's other eye?

Calgar and Draigo will rip Magnus' eye out then spend eternity throwing it back and forth to each other and never quite letting him get it.

Everyone deserves a second chance. Or a tenth chance.

But it never hurts to start oiling up torches and sharpening pitchforks.

Maybe Vandus Hammerhand will now become the 'Spiritual Liege' of all the Stormcast?

He's there delivering from dominos

 Eldarain wrote:
Just in time for some 40k End Times action. Oh Draigo and Calgar will have such a grand time. Will they take Magnus's other eye?

No, they will BE Magnus's other eye...dun dun dunnnnnn.

OK... i guess i will return to play 40K second edition right now... Cause in 1 year or two 40K will be 50K with pokemons fighting against GI Joe...

 Brother SRM wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
Just in time for some 40k End Times action. Oh Draigo and Calgar will have such a grand time. Will they take Magnus's other eye?

Calgar and Draigo will rip Magnus' eye out then spend eternity throwing it back and forth to each other and never quite letting him get it.

Yeah, right after making tsons cults -50 points, able to choose from specialist weapons and a 1k sons codex with "normal" marines lead by lvl1 psykers. and psy-dreads. and access to ALL powers...

He is writing all their novels, rules texts, and press releases from now on, but he's farming all of it to a simple piece of software he's written that spews out text by combining a random number generator, the results of an academic study into the most popular words in heavy metal lyrics, and the phrases "Necron BloodFistBump" and "and then Draigo killed them all."

There is another theory that this has already happened.

Let him write the next Tau. Let it be so!

He will make the "Ordo Draigo" Canon, and they WILL provide the Hams

Every Ultramarine suddenly becomes Grey Knights and Calgar and Draigo are actually brothers.

At the end of the current warzone fenris campaign draigo has his illusionary mask ripped off by azreal and reveals he was Magnus all along. Magnus then shouts " and I would have gotten away with it to if it wasn't for you meddling dark Angels and that stupid dog" (in reference to leman Russ).

- Matt ward

To be honest, Ward was actually a pretty good rules writer. His codexes had excellent internal Balance (at least relative to the current ones) and weren't too far off from each other in terms of external balance. Keep him away from the fluff and let him write the rules and things will actually be pretty good.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
To be honest, Ward was actually a pretty good rules writer. His codexes had excellent internal Balance (at least relative to the current ones) and weren't too far off from each other in terms of external balance. Keep him away from the fluff and let him write the rules and things will actually be pretty good.

Didn't he make ridiculously OP GK, and ruin 7th Fantasy with Daemons? Plus the High Elves book. He is not good at rules.

Calm down everyone. He's not back at GW, he's just writing a novel for Black Library.

gungo wrote:
At the end of the current warzone fenris campaign draigo has his illusionary mask ripped off by azreal and reveals he was Magnus all along. Magnus then shouts " and I would have gotten away with it to if it wasn't for you meddling dark Angels and that stupid dog" (in reference to leman Russ).

- Matt ward

I'd read that to be honest

 oni wrote:
Calm down everyone. He's not back at GW, he's just writing a novel for Black Library.

Oh God!
Even Worse!

pm713 wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
To be honest, Ward was actually a pretty good rules writer. His codexes had excellent internal Balance (at least relative to the current ones) and weren't too far off from each other in terms of external balance. Keep him away from the fluff and let him write the rules and things will actually be pretty good.

Didn't he make ridiculously OP GK, and ruin 7th Fantasy with Daemons? Plus the High Elves book. He is not good at rules.

High Elves was Adam Troke.

Ward got better at writing rules and fluff writing as he got more experience. I seem to remember him getting a lot of positive feedback for his work on Lord of the Rings stuff.

But if he's being brought back as a consultant, I doubt he's doing the same work as he was doing when he was part of the development team.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
To be honest, Ward was actually a pretty good rules writer. His codexes had excellent internal Balance (at least relative to the current ones) and weren't too far off from each other in terms of external balance. Keep him away from the fluff and let him write the rules and things will actually be pretty good.

I agree. I also don't think his fluff was too bad. It just became a meme to hate on it and I'm sure 90% of people hating on it never actually took the time to read & process what was actually happening.

Every time somebody calls Kaldor Draigo a "mary sue" instead of "sisyphus incarnate" i can guarantee that they either didn't read or didn't spend more than a second thinking about what Kaldor Draigo's story actually meant. Never thought I'd say it, because it IS very shallow, but apparently it has layers and most people can't get past the first one.

The best part about Wardian fluff is when the 7th edition book came out, untouched by him, and ACTUALLY made Kaldor Draigo a mary sue (and explicitly refers to him as stronger than the Chaos Gods instead of a strange anomaly in a realm of anomalies), the masses praised it for making an effort to "fix" the "mess" that was Draigo. Come on, people!

His codexes had great internal balance, but horrible external balance. Generally nothing in his codex would be auto-take or completely useless, but the entire codex would be heads and shoulders above another codex entirely.

And it's not like he was consistent with the level of power either since if I remember the Necron Codex was much more powerful than the GK codex, both of which were written by him consecutively.

pm713 wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
To be honest, Ward was actually a pretty good rules writer. His codexes had excellent internal Balance (at least relative to the current ones) and weren't too far off from each other in terms of external balance. Keep him away from the fluff and let him write the rules and things will actually be pretty good.

Didn't he make ridiculously OP GK, and ruin 7th Fantasy with Daemons? Plus the High Elves book. He is not good at rules.

And everything he wrote was approved by someone higher up, so let's take a moment to remember the name Alan Merrett, who stated, in court, that he believes that GW's customers' favorite hobby is buying GW products.

Yeah his 7th edition Daemons was just...wow. I had just started working at GW and I had to have a army for all three systems. I had Tau and SM for 40k, I wanted to do a nazgul army for LotR and I was going to do a Chaos army for Fantasy. My manager told me to hold off on getting the Fantasy army as a new army book was coming out and I should wait for that..... well it was Daemons and I was TFG even tho I hardly new Fantasy...thanks Matt!!

Captain Crunch returns! It will only be a matter of time before all armies are balanced, internally and externally.

Rumors of plastic Daemon Primarchs... can Mat Ward be far behind? I think there might be 3 or 4 that Kaldor Draigo hasn't written on yet. Looking forward to The End Times: Draigo Autograph Tour 40,000.

decker_cky wrote:

pm713 wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
To be honest, Ward was actually a pretty good rules writer. His codexes had excellent internal Balance (at least relative to the current ones) and weren't too far off from each other in terms of external balance. Keep him away from the fluff and let him write the rules and things will actually be pretty good.

Didn't he make ridiculously OP GK, and ruin 7th Fantasy with Daemons? Plus the High Elves book. He is not good at rules.

High Elves was Adam Troke.

Ward got better at writing rules and fluff writing as he got more experience. I seem to remember him getting a lot of positive feedback for his work on Lord of the Rings stuff.

But if he's being brought back as a consultant, I doubt he's doing the same work as he was doing when he was part of the development team.

I'm sure it was Matt Ward.

The High Elves book says Written By Mat Ward.

Bottle wrote:I think he's going to be the main plot writer for the AoSification of 40k

Oh Bottle you bad boy. You trying to start something?

oni wrote:Calm down everyone. He's not back at GW, he's just writing a novel for Black Library.

You have proof of this or just guessing?

Truly we are now living in the End of Times, woe be unto us all.

EDIT: Seriously though, what's Ward going to do, write something ridiculously OTT and tonally inconsistent with the setting? Welcome to 90% of modern GW's output.

 CURNOW wrote:
He's there delivering from dominos

Love this.

Dude is an idiot.

Davor wrote:

oni wrote:Calm down everyone. He's not back at GW, he's just writing a novel for Black Library.

You have proof of this or just guessing?

No proof, simple logic can figure it out. Matt said GW is a new "client". So he's not a GW employee, he's simply been contracted by them to do something. Typically GW contracts BL writers. GW is not going to contract someone to write a codex or a rulebook.

Although,he could be play testing. I'm not sure how GW goes about that.

despite the flack people gave matt ward, ward was a very consistent rules writer. A Ward Codex was always balenced agiest the other Ward Codexs.

Lord of the Rings was good because he had more control over all the armies involved when balancing them. The issue in 40k was that Ward was just never on the same page as everyone eals when writing rules.

 oni wrote:

Davor wrote:

oni wrote:Calm down everyone. He's not back at GW, he's just writing a novel for Black Library.

You have proof of this or just guessing?

No proof, simple logic can figure it out. Matt said GW is a new "client". So he's not a GW employee, he's simply been contracted by them to do something. Typically GW contracts BL writers. GW is not going to contract someone to write a codex or a rulebook.

Although,he could be play testing. I'm not sure how GW goes about that.

That was my guess as well but I didn't think Matt War ever wrote a Black Library novel so didn't think it would happen. GW also contracts out artwork now, but I don't think Matt Ward is an artist that way. Who knows, seeing how some of the art is horrible maybe he would make better art .

I wonder if he'll carve his own initials into the rib plate of the space marine statue they unceremoniously moved to under the staircase...

 CURNOW wrote:
He's there delivering from dominos

If it is a book, will it be that the emperor finally dies, his warp self explodes into existence, destroying the universe were only a few realms survive, so starts the age of the Emperor

Knowing him, Rowboat Girlyman awakens from Stasis, sees the condition of the Imperium and deems the Emperor a failure. Then he kills the emperor and uses his status as the last non-corrupted Primarch to become the new Emperor. Then everyone bows to him due to his unmatched intelligence and he earns the alliegence of every space marine chapter in existence because of this. Then he sends the Ultramarines into the warp to finally defeat Chaos.

 GoonBandito wrote:

gungo wrote:
At the end of the current warzone fenris campaign draigo has his illusionary mask ripped off by azreal and reveals he was Magnus all along. Magnus then shouts " and I would have gotten away with it to if it wasn't for you meddling dark Angels and that stupid dog" (in reference to leman Russ).

- Matt ward

I'd read that to be honest

No need to read this you can catch it on nick at night with scooby doo reruns.

Well my only concern is the fluff matter. It's not good.
But his rules are quite intresting and really fun.

And whe you remember that GK broke the whole meta - think about current eldar.
I can't even put a nice word of how broken 7th eldar is.
So it was the Angels of death that toned it down a little bit... but at what price? being the most broken ever - 2++ rerollable with 2+ FNP eternal warrior charging anywhere on first turn riding ruin centurions - wtf?

So power creep does not depend on Ward.
And if you dare to compare with current BA/GK/DE/Necrons codicies to what was in 5th edition - it's just two completly different levels.

A lot of no in here. I think we need a Daniel Bryan YES YES YES. It's not the same when he left..

Please please please do the Tyranid codex.i guess Geanstealers would be too Lars eh?

His books were way more interesting than the current crop of copy/paste codexes with cartoon artwork.

Are the GKs in line for a new codex update? Guess GW needs to butcher more Sisters to protect the GKs from some taint or another.

New client? How about an old client?

Poor guy can't even write a good tweet.

Probably just some novels.

Man now I want a book by him called 'Dragio, Interrupted'.

He will write upp new fluff revealing that Draigo is one of the two lost primarchs and has returned to take the place of the God Emperor and whipe chaos out forever. Duh..

Friggin Mat Ward..

Truly the End Times are upon us

gak. Why the feth have they brought him back? He's terrible.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
gak. Why the feth have they brought him back? He's terrible.

Yup. Couldn't say it better myself.

I think his Necron Codex was about the only decent thing he put out there.

 oni wrote:
Calm down everyone. He's not back at GW, he's just writing a novel for Black Library.

Seems the most likely.

Which I'm happy about.

Read one of his novels, some of his shorts and his other novel is in the post.

I think he'd be a good fit for BL.

 Kirasu wrote:
His books were way more interesting than the current crop of copy/paste codexes with cartoon artwork.

I certainly liked the way there were viable different builds with his books.

TBF the introduction of the formations has altered things a lot here but seems to me you used to see/get a lot more variety on the tabletop than you get now.

And as others have said it wasn't all done by him and was all approved by others along the way.

He's a nice guy too

In the interests of balance, I'll say the following points in Ward's defence:

1) Alan Merrit The chapterhouse court case revealed a lot of what really happened behind the scenes at GW, so if you're working for somebody like that, it's not always your fault.

2) The models drove the rules, and not vice versa. We know from numerous Rick Priestly interviews that the studio ended up as a marketing wing for the company, and in many cases new army books emerged because a particular designer felt the need to develop a new monster or tank or whatever, often ignoring the fact that Army X was long overdue for a new codex...

So, if you're Mat Ward, sitting at your desk, and somebody comes up and dumps a whole load of stuff in front of you and says we need rules for X Y Z, you may not have the time to develop that great idea you had for a new Brettonian army book.

3) The LOTR stuff was good, and I though his Daemon army book was great fun to play with and against...

All in all, I don't think he merits a lot of the flak that came his way, and was too often used as a punchbag for those who had gripes with GW.

Yeah but Draigo. And Nemesis DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM Fists.

 Quarterdime wrote:
New client? How about an old client?

Poor guy can't even write a good tweet.

It's almost as if referring to them as a new client is the entire joke! Who'd have thunk it?

I never understood the hate for Mat Ward. His Necrons codex was my first Warhammer 40K Codex since the 4th edition Imperial Guard one, and, regarding balance and fluff, I always found the Cruddace ones to be much worse.
Plus, remember his first job was to write rules for LOTR, which was quite biased towards heroes. After that he was put to work on Space Marines, which are the "Heroes of Heroes" in 40K. Then Grey Knights, which are the "Heroes of Heroes of Heroes".

Can't blame the guy if he had to go overboard with the fluff. Plus, I loved the Iyanden supplement, and the fluff of the Necron Codex.

Good if he joins them again, he might actually help fix the crappy mess 40k has become.

 n0t_u wrote:
Good if he joins them again, he might actually help fix the crappy mess 40k has become.

I find this amusing as he helped make it that way lol.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 n0t_u wrote:
Good if he joins them again, he might actually help fix the crappy mess 40k has become.

I find this amusing as he helped make it that way lol.

Was he behind the formations necrons got? Cause his crap was still better than what 40k gets now. That's how bad it's got.

I figure Ward would fit nicely in an AoS context.
Just imagine him let loose on the stormcast lore.
Epic, exaggerated and outrageously over he top.
Jup, he will fit right in.

 Fayric wrote:
I figure Ward would fit nicely in an AoS context.
Just imagine him let loose on the stormcast lore.
Epic, exaggerated and outrageously over he top.
Jup, he will fit right in.

Oh god no. I am terrified of some of rules he might do for 40k or AOS armies oh dear god.

I still have bad memories of friends being upset facing high elves and daemons those were not good times.

 Fayric wrote:
I figure Ward would fit nicely in an AoS context.
Just imagine him let loose on the stormcast lore.
Epic, exaggerated and outrageously over he top.
Jup, he will fit right in.

Haha, yup, a match made in heaven. And funnily enough I have noticed a fairly strong correlation between people who thought Ward's Draigo-etc fluff was awesome and people who enjoy AoS, and vice versa.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Fayric wrote:
I figure Ward would fit nicely in an AoS context.
Just imagine him let loose on the stormcast lore.
Epic, exaggerated and outrageously over he top.
Jup, he will fit right in.

Haha, yup, a match made in heaven. And funnily enough I have noticed a fairly strong correlation between people who thought Ward's Draigo-etc fluff was awesome and people who enjoy AoS, and vice versa.

The sigmarines is pretty much a whole bunch of Draigos isn't they, so it makes sense.

I think the 5th ed Grey Knights codex was mostly dull, in terms of both fluff and rules, and had stuff in that was blatantly OP (notably Psyflemen), and was probably the start of the current disconnect between points levels and power levels: marines with free power weapons? Sure, marines and power weapons are not exactly a great fit, but when everyone else's marines can buy PW at 15 points a time, and your entire *marine*, including power weapon, storm bolter, dude, and free psychic powers, oh and by the way that's actually a force weapon not a power weapon, only costs 20 points, it's pretty clear that it should be fine a couple of codexes down the line to give everyone free Rhinos and Drop Pods, right? Because given a base cost for a marine of around 14 pts, it's pretty clear that our GKs are paying around 2 points each for their force weapons, storm bolters, deep strike ability and psychic powers. All right, 1.5 points for each of those things. Anyway. Not convinced Ward was ever any good at anything other than selling a load of minis by writing OP rules... Oh, OK, he was actually the perfect GW employee.

Matt Ward is actually Leman Russ.

Russ said he would be back in the very end for the Wolftime for the final battle and the End Times of 40K.

 Quarterdime wrote:
New client? How about an old client?

Poor guy can't even write a good tweet.

You know the difference between a client and being a full time employee right?


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 angelofvengeance wrote:

 n0t_u wrote:
Good if he joins them again, he might actually help fix the crappy mess 40k has become.

I find this amusing as he helped make it that way lol.

He did? So no one at GW told him "No stop Matt, you are making a mess of our company."

Yes Matt is the sole reason for what 40K has become. Yeah right.

Blame matt ward for everything. No wait, blame Jervis. Wait, no, it was Gav Thorpes fault. All of it.

Please bring back Matt Ward to write rules. Let 8th come and purge the unworthy, so we may drown in their salty tears.

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Blame matt ward for everything. No wait, blame Jervis. Wait, no, it was Gav Thorpes fault. All of it.

Meanwhile, C.S. Goto lurks out there in the darkness, forgotten by all but a few haggard, crusty veterans who mumble incoherently about his reign of terror.

 nels1031 wrote:

Meanwhile, C.S. Goto lurks out there in the darkness, forgotten by all but a few haggard, crusty veterans who mumble incoherently about his reign of terror.

The people will look up and shout "Save us!"
and I'll whisper
"Multilasers."

He's probably back to bathe more Grey Knights in SoBs' blood... ya know... like they do from time to time 'to be pure'... by preforming a Khorne ritual.

-_-

 Brother SRM wrote:

 nels1031 wrote:

Meanwhile, C.S. Goto lurks out there in the darkness, forgotten by all but a few haggard, crusty veterans who mumble incoherently about his reign of terror.

The people will look up and shout "Save us!"
and I'll whisper
"Multilasers."

Rorschach's Journal, 2016, "Today a Good SoB codex was killed in GW HQ"


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 Revarien wrote:
He's probably back to bathe more Grey Knights in SoBs' blood... ya know... like they do from time to time 'to be pure'... by preforming a Khorne ritual.

-_-

Didnt Ward write the last SoB codex?
It was Ok, i hope he is back to write a new one...(ANYTHING is better than nothing for SoB currently)

I think many people forget, what of a good job he had done.
None of us - or few of us - recognized it at the time. Each new Codex, the tournament crowd would roar up, how OP it was.

But each time after a couple of months at the latest, things were fine. Sure, the newer books were significantly stronger than the drove of books in dire need of update for up to a dozen years,

however, tournament play was fun, there wa slots of gak going on, many different books and many different builds being fielded.

Compare this to now: gak is OP, Eldar are crap, there's new rules popping out so fast that basically nobody who isn't absolutely obsessive can keep up with the schedule, formations and stuff has fethed army composition up beyond recognition.

Ward was probably the best thing that had happened to 40k, but at the time: Nobody saw it. Back then, the tournament crowd in germany was ( from my own estimation ) at least two or three times the size it is nowadays.

There is a reason for that. Disregarding uproars and stuff, people voting with their feet and wallet ( i.e. walking out and not competing in tournaments anymore ) are in the end the best gauge to estimate the state of a game.

40k is fethed up.
It was good while Ward was writing it.

It was fethed up back then too. It's just much worse now, so the old times looks better in comparison.

The tournament scene was still reasonably healthy. But that was in spite of the work of Ward and people like him, not because of it.

There's no way he's writing the fluff or rules for 8th edition base rules. If there is a big lore update coming (as hinted previously), they've been working on it for quite some time. Especially if it has a projected release of early next year, they would have begun working on it some point Q1 this year at the latest. Likely he'll be working on a new codex or army update, but the core of the game itself is likely well under way.

 MadCowCrazy wrote:
Are the GKs in line for a new codex update? Guess GW needs to butcher more Sisters to protect the GKs from some taint or another.

No. This time Matt has come back to write the Sister's of Battle glorious return to printed codex status !!

commander dante wrote:

Didnt Ward write the last SoB codex?
It was Ok, i hope he is back to write a new one...(ANYTHING is better than nothing for SoB currently)

I believe it was him and Cruddace who did the last SoB online codex.

Davor wrote:

commander dante wrote:

Didnt Ward write the last SoB codex?
It was Ok, i hope he is back to write a new one...(ANYTHING is better than nothing for SoB currently)

I believe it was him and Cruddace who did the last SoB online codex.

If they did release a new codex, all i would want is for Celestine to get EW, and make her Sword AP2 in Close Combat (and potentially add blind to the ranged attack? It would fit with the fluff (It shines so bright, none can look at it))

I don't think Ward will be involved in anything 40k or AoS. A novel is a good guess. Or maybe stuff for LotR.

 nels1031 wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Blame matt ward for everything. No wait, blame Jervis. Wait, no, it was Gav Thorpes fault. All of it.

Meanwhile, C.S. Goto lurks out there in the darkness, forgotten by all but a few haggard, crusty veterans who mumble incoherently about his reign of terror.

Brother-Captain Vermillion from the proud chapter of the Rainbow Warriors discovers an evil conspiracy inside the Holy Ecclesiarchy. Can he and his brothers stop the vicious Sister Sin and her minions from creating female Space Marines with the stolen gene-seed of their chapter?

 Dryaktylus wrote:

Brother-Captain Vermillion from the proud chapter of the Rainbow Warriors discovers an evil conspiracy inside the Holy Ecclesiarchy. Can he and his brothers stop the vicious Sister Sin and her minions from creating female Space Marines with the stolen gene-seed of their chapter?

I'd read it.

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

 Dryaktylus wrote:

Brother-Captain Vermillion from the proud chapter of the Rainbow Warriors discovers an evil conspiracy inside the Holy Ecclesiarchy. Can he and his brothers stop the vicious Sister Sin and her minions from creating female Space Marines with the stolen gene-seed of their chapter?

I'd read it.

For a bit I thought it was a real novel.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
To be honest, Ward was actually a pretty good rules writer. His codexes had excellent internal Balance (at least relative to the current ones) and weren't too far off from each other in terms of external balance. Keep him away from the fluff and let him write the rules and things will actually be pretty good.

WHFB 7th edition Daemons of Chaos say hi.

 Dryaktylus wrote:
I don't think Ward will be involved in anything 40k or AoS. A novel is a good guess. Or maybe stuff for LotR.

 nels1031 wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Blame matt ward for everything. No wait, blame Jervis. Wait, no, it was Gav Thorpes fault. All of it.

Meanwhile, C.S. Goto lurks out there in the darkness, forgotten by all but a few haggard, crusty veterans who mumble incoherently about his reign of terror.

Brother-Captain Vermillion from the proud chapter of the Rainbow Warriors discovers an evil conspiracy inside the Holy Ecclesiarchy. Can he and his brothers stop the vicious Sister Sin and her minions from creating female Space Marines with the stolen gene-seed of their chapter?

...Why does this sound like bad fanfic from a certain fandom that I dread to bring up?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Probably just some novels.

Man now I want a book by him called 'Dragio, Interrupted'.

I think he is hired to get more girls to game

'50 shades of Draigo'

I do not think they could make the sigmarines any more op in lore then they are. Fist of gork story

gordakk the strongest baddest ironjaw there is who are the strongest best orks. Largest of his kind an equal, to any living creature may be the gods fury reborn.

John marine shows up, fights him and matches him blow for blow and almost won.

everything in the lore is like 40k they are there just to show how bad ass the space marines are. So when you hear about a guy who could rule the galaxy.... chances are he is about to get ass slapped around a room for a while.

MORE ON TOPIC, LESS LULZ.

Thanks!

 Korinov wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
To be honest, Ward was actually a pretty good rules writer. His codexes had excellent internal Balance (at least relative to the current ones) and weren't too far off from each other in terms of external balance. Keep him away from the fluff and let him write the rules and things will actually be pretty good.

WHFB 7th edition Daemons of Chaos say hi.

His only real worst one (and quite literally his first book written), and we've still got Cruddace ruining Tyranids alongside Phil "Eldar will be da best every edition I write them!" Kelly. Yet they STILL don't get as much flak as he does despite ruining more.

It does seem more like he's writing a black library book though.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

pm713 wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
To be honest, Ward was actually a pretty good rules writer. His codexes had excellent internal Balance (at least relative to the current ones) and weren't too far off from each other in terms of external balance. Keep him away from the fluff and let him write the rules and things will actually be pretty good.

Didn't he make ridiculously OP GK, and ruin 7th Fantasy with Daemons? Plus the High Elves book. He is not good at rules.

And everything he wrote was approved by someone higher up, so let's take a moment to remember the name Alan Merrett, who stated, in court, that he believes that GW's customers' favorite hobby is buying GW products.

Never in my time on Dakka were truer words spoken. Merrett is, I believe, the center of a lot of my personal gripes with the company over the years, many of the gripes I'd attributed to writers and creatives below him and Kirby drifting above him.

As for Ward, he certainly didn't write the drizzle of piss that was the last Ork codex and that phoned in filth is the worst codex in years. He also didn't give D weapons and scatterlazorrrz to every bloody single unit in Eldar, did he... Some of his naming tropes were poor, some of his background was Mary-Sueish, but honestly we've seen far worse. The prosecution of online vendetta towards the bloke is unreasonable hyperbolic nonsense and the fairly reliable rumor relayed to me that he had his life threatened at a GW event in the states by an ex-services player (along with other such bonkers bs as Gav T's home address being put up on druchii.net with a call to send him such things as phials of blood etc for writing a poor book) should go to show that this has almost eliminated 'names' in GW now and it's why we don't get names in the books any more, and you know something? I bloody miss named characters at GW, I miss that long list of obnoxious photos and larger than life personalities like fat bloke, Chambers of secrets, Stillmania etc, I'd like to see it again, but who the hell wants to stick their head above the pulpit and get into the crosshairs of the mob these days.

Lads, lay off it. Take a breath, pull yer trousers up and take some moral high ground. If the guy has returned to write novels, wait til the novel comes out and assess it on it's merits.

The return of Matt Ward.

d4chan will not take this news well.

Personally I dont care, I stopped buying codexes long ago. No point really.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

pm713 wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
To be honest, Ward was actually a pretty good rules writer. His codexes had excellent internal Balance (at least relative to the current ones) and weren't too far off from each other in terms of external balance. Keep him away from the fluff and let him write the rules and things will actually be pretty good.

Didn't he make ridiculously OP GK, and ruin 7th Fantasy with Daemons? Plus the High Elves book. He is not good at rules.

And everything he wrote was approved by someone higher up, so let's take a moment to remember the name Alan Merrett, who stated, in court, that he believes that GW's customers' favorite hobby is buying GW products.

Never in my time on Dakka were truer words spoken. Merrett is, I believe, the center of a lot of my personal gripes with the company over the years, many of the gripes I'd attributed to writers and creatives below him and Kirby drifting above him.

As for Ward, he certainly didn't write the drizzle of piss that was the last Ork codex and that phoned in filth is the worst codex in years. He also didn't give D weapons and scatterlazorrrz to every bloody single unit in Eldar, did he... Some of his naming tropes were poor, some of his background was Mary-Sueish, but honestly we've seen far worse. The prosecution of online vendetta towards the bloke is unreasonable hyperbolic nonsense and the fairly reliable rumor relayed to me that he had his life threatened at a GW event in the states by an ex-services player (along with other such bonkers bs as Gav T's home address being put up on druchii.net with a call to send him such things as phials of blood etc for writing a poor book) should go to show that this has almost eliminated 'names' in GW now and it's why we don't get names in the books any more, and you know something? I bloody miss named characters at GW, I miss that long list of obnoxious photos and larger than life personalities like fat bloke, Chambers of secrets, Stillmania etc, I'd like to see it again, but who the hell wants to stick their head above the pulpit and get into the crosshairs of the mob these days.

Lads, lay off it. Take a breath, pull yer trousers up and take some moral high ground. If the guy has returned to write novels, wait til the novel comes out and assess it on it's merits.

Huh, a reasonable and intelligent voice on the internet. Congratulations sir, have an exalt.

Why is MGS getting all the credit? I made a similar point a few pages back!

Nah, just kidding, excellent post from MGS as always, cuts through the bull.

After re-visting the old Daemon army book, I'm reminded how fun it was to play with and against.

And if Ward does end up doing work for the BL, I can't be much worse than what we've seen these past few years.

The last BL book I enjoyed was James Wallis' Mark of Damnation, and that's going back a bit.

I played 7th WFB, which had extremely serious imbalance toward the middle/end (demons, dark elves, vampire counts). Did this fella do those army books?

 privateer4hire wrote:
I played 7th WFB, which had extremely serious imbalance toward the middle/end (demons, dark elves, vampire counts). Did this fella do those army books?

If memory serves, it was Gav Thorpe that did the Dark Elves army book, the same army book that had basic DE spearmen with light armour, shield, spear, eternal hatred, leadership 8, movement 5, WS and BS 4...for the same price as an unarmoured human with a spear...

Strangely, Thorpe never got the same amount of flak as Mat ward did

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Why is MGS getting all the credit? I made a similar point a few pages back!

Nah, just kidding, excellent post from MGS as always, cuts through the bull.

After re-visting the old Daemon army book, I'm reminded how fun it was to play with and against.

And if Ward does end up doing work for the BL, I can't be much worse than what we've seen these past few years.

The last BL book I enjoyed was James Wallis' Mark of Damnation, and that's going back a bit.

Ha sorry, I skipped through the first few pages after I saw the exact reactions I was sadly expecting. Good to have another sane voice I never had a problem with Ward personally. I still think his work on Lord of the Rings was some of the best stuff GW ever put out. I do remember playing against the old deamon army book and enjoying it actually. I like to a steep curve to fight against.

Honestly, Ward didn't write any of the new broken codexes (Necrons, Tau, Codex: Space Marines, or Eldar). The people that did are still with GW. And was the broken stuff Ward wrote even in the same category as the Cruddace and Kelly stuff?

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Honestly, Ward didn't write any of the new broken codexes (Necrons, Tau, Codex: Space Marines, or Eldar). The people that did are still with GW. And was the broken stuff Ward wrote even in the same category as the Cruddace and Kelly stuff?

Nah, nowhere near as bad in my opinion as Cruddace and Kelly. I think Ward just got caught up in the "internet hate machine" and he still hasn't been let out of it.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Honestly, Ward didn't write any of the new broken codexes (Necrons, Tau, Codex: Space Marines, or Eldar). The people that did are still with GW. And was the broken stuff Ward wrote even in the same category as the Cruddace and Kelly stuff?

Back in the day, towards the end of 5th, Grey Knights came out, which was a very powerful, all singing, all dancing MEQ army of elites. I fought it on various occasions, including a few tourneys, using the (even then) dated ork codex, applying basic principals to kill MEQ and usually did well against it. It was OP to an extent and the fluff was very very overblown and fanboyish. The necron codex that followed it was also powerful, coming at the end of 5th and the beginning of 6th and the 'Flying Circus' build it brought pissed off a lot of people, it also saw a great reworking of Necron background making them more 'human' and fractional, which stole a lot of their 'ancient implacable ultimate badguy' background, this also saw a lot of rage. (I get why they did it to both crons and nids, as they had both stolen the limelight of Ultimate Evil from Chaos and needed winding back in).

Then there was some odd and daft stuff in the BA codex, deep-striking Land Raiders rules, cheaper devastators than codex marines, terrible naming tropes and the alliance of crons and BAs.

Neither the background or the rules were that bad, but the combination of them all, in a short space of time, created the perfect breeding ground for him to become public enemy number one, unlike anyone else writing there, like P Kelly for example, for whom us ork players would still go to war (waaagh) over (compounded for me by the TERRIBLE codex we now have).


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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Honestly, Ward didn't write any of the new broken codexes (Necrons, Tau, Codex: Space Marines, or Eldar). The people that did are still with GW. And was the broken stuff Ward wrote even in the same category as the Cruddace and Kelly stuff?

Nah, nowhere near as bad in my opinion as Cruddace and Kelly. I think Ward just got caught up in the "internet hate machine" and he still hasn't been let out of it.

PK wrote that book, it's the best and greatest codex the boyz have ever had.

Well,no, "ere we go" has that privilege.

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Well,no, "ere we go" has that privilege.

Ere We Go wasn't a codex... The Codex didn't show up until the 2nd ed.

Considering that they no longer put names on the codex, 6th/7th edition Ork Codex could've been written by Phil Kelly

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Well,no, "ere we go" has that privilege.

Ere We Go wasn't a codex... The Codex didn't show up until the 2nd ed.

So in spite of laying the foundations and having the same essential contents, it don't count be cause it don't say "codex"

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Considering that they no longer put names on the codex, 6th/7th edition Ork Codex could've been written by Phil Kelly

As far as I can tell, the current Ork codex was written by an intern from the print room, with a list from management in one hand saying "put these new models in", a copy/paste of the Kelly codex in the other, which he hadn't had time to read, and about half an hour of spare time.

There is pretty much no understanding of the Ork army in there and certainly no love or passion for the army at all. It was a purely mechanical update, it really is that bad.

/OT rant.

I never cared about Ward's rules (although he did break Fantasy with his Daemons book). I only cared about the fluff.

His naming conventions were beyond silly, and the Draigo stuff really is that bad. I don't care whether they were hopelessly broken or completely incapable of winning against the lowly Tau - the writing was silly!

40K has a certain silly element, but Blood Fists and Bloodshard Rounds and Bloodstrike Missiles and Nemesis DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM Fists were a very silly bridge too far.

After what Matt Ward did to my Iron Hands, I have nothing but loathing and HATE for the man. Throwing the mess of a two week old, overflowing toilet against a sheet of paper would make a better and more coherent codex than anything he wrote. Especially in regards to the fluff. Just as I was getting back into 40k after a break. Now I feel like I should consider selling everything 40k I have. But, I suppose I should give it 6 months, or at least long enough to find out what piece of garbage he is working on. I would say something else about the man, but I feel like I would get a perma ban if I did.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Cruddace and Kelly stuff?

Cruddace stuff is broken in the actual meaning of the term. i.e. dysfunctional, damaged, non-functioning, beyond repair.

Tyranids are certainly not 'cheese' broken by any stretch of the imagination. But actually broken.

Whoa whoa whoa. Don't insult my Nemesis DOOOOOOMfists. That's like insulting my MURDERhobbyclippers or BLOODpaintbrush.

 NorseSig wrote:
After what Matt Ward did to my Iron Hands, I have nothing but loathing and HATE for the man. I would say something else about the man, but I feel like I would get a perma ban if I did.

I worked in child protection for many years and I've taken in and worked with abused animals most of my life, if you want to hate someone, I have a long list of potential candidates for you, someone writing rules you don't like, for a game of toy soldiers, isn't one of them.


Do me a favour chaps and lets all wind that shiz in eh? You sound ridiculous.




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 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Well,no, "ere we go" has that privilege.

Ere We Go wasn't a codex... The Codex didn't show up until the 2nd ed.

So in spite of laying the foundations and having the same essential contents, it don't count be cause it don't say "codex"

Pretty much, given that if I were talking about a Chaos Codex, I wouldn't be thinking of Realm of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness or an Eldar Codex being the White Dwarf Yellow Compendium...

YMMV

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
I worked in child protection for many years and I've taken in and worked with abused animals most of my life, if you want to hate someone, I have a long list of potential candidates for you, someone writing rules you don't like, for a game of toy soldiers, isn't one of them.

Exalted, and Sig worthy.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 NorseSig wrote:
After what Matt Ward did to my Iron Hands, I have nothing but loathing and HATE for the man. I would say something else about the man, but I feel like I would get a perma ban if I did.

I worked in child protection for many years and I've taken in and worked with abused animals most of my life, if you want to hate someone, I have a long list of potential candidates for you, someone writing rules you don't like, for a game of toy soldiers, isn't one of them.

Worth repeating and reposting. Anyone who gets into such a state at what is supposed to be a fun past time should probably take a break from it. He wrote a rule book with fictional stories in. Level criticism at his words or his rules by all means, but to poor scorn on the poor fellow to such a degree...

And I can't believe some of the tales on here. Poor bloke. Probably thought he'd landed a dream job, getting paid for what he enjoyed only to have people threaten you or make a call to post blood to you.

People wonder why GW removed the writing credits from their books.

 adamsouza wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
I worked in child protection for many years and I've taken in and worked with abused animals most of my life, if you want to hate someone, I have a long list of potential candidates for you, someone writing rules you don't like, for a game of toy soldiers, isn't one of them.

Exalted, and Sig worthy.

Not really. It's a fallacy of relative privation.

 Jadenim wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Considering that they no longer put names on the codex, 6th/7th edition Ork Codex could've been written by Phil Kelly

As far as I can tell, the current Ork codex was written by an intern from the print room, with a list from management in one hand saying "put these new models in", a copy/paste of the Kelly codex in the other, which he hadn't had time to read, and about half an hour of spare time.

There is pretty much no understanding of the Ork army in there and certainly no love or passion for the army at all. It was a purely mechanical update, it really is that bad.

/OT rant.

I'm not a studio hater, but that's why I have almost no hope that Tyranids will get the major refresh that they so desperately need. Too many Tyranid units haven't fundamentally changed since 3rd or 4th edition, when the game -- and especially the firepower on the table -- was drastically different than what it is now. And they certainly aren't about to change in the current copy/paste environment. Whenever they get their next update, we'll probably see Tyranid Warriors 'buffed' through a formation that gives them Fear and Counterattack, and other such nonsense.

I'm excited about a Genestealer Cult codex, though.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Considering that they no longer put names on the codex, 6th/7th edition Ork Codex could've been written by Phil Kelly

He didn't write it.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
I worked in child protection for many years and I've taken in and worked with abused animals most of my life, if you want to hate someone, I have a long list of potential candidates for you, someone writing rules you don't like, for a game of toy soldiers, isn't one of them.

Exalted, and Sig worthy.

Not really. It's a fallacy of relative privation.

Or a call to appropriately direct emotion and avoid hyperbole...

I worked in child protection for many years and I've taken in and worked with abused animals most of my life, if you want to hate someone, I have a long list of potential candidates for you, someone writing rules you don't like, for a game of toy soldiers, isn't one of them.


Do me a favour chaps and lets all wind that shiz in eh? You sound ridiculous.

And what I feel towards these kinds of people goes way beyond hate. Hate is something I reserve for someone who is an actual human being. You don't know me or know the measuring stick by which I judge things. So back off.

 NorseSig wrote:

I worked in child protection for many years and I've taken in and worked with abused animals most of my life, if you want to hate someone, I have a long list of potential candidates for you, someone writing rules you don't like, for a game of toy soldiers, isn't one of them.


Do me a favour chaps and lets all wind that shiz in eh? You sound ridiculous.

And what I feel towards these kinds of people goes way beyond hate. Hate is something I reserve for someone who is an actual human being. You don't know me or know the measuring stick by which I judge things. So back off.

no.

Also you taking personal offense at my comments suggesting winding down the vitriol in regards your detrimental comments towards someone who isn't actually here to defend themselves and who isn't able to tell you that you 'don't know them and to back off' is... fairly delicious hypocrisy, don't you think?

 NorseSig wrote:
And what I feel towards these kinds of people goes way beyond hate. Hate is something I reserve for someone who is an actual human being. You don't know me or know the measuring stick by which I judge things. So back off.

We have no idea who you are but you are judged on your postings. Talking about extreme emotions over what is, essentially, a rulebook with fiction in it doesn't come across as either healthy or constructive. We have no idea who was involved in the writing of any of the books, what decisions were made, how things were agreed, what hand he had in it, etc, etc. To demonise him over it is idiotic and, far too often, goes way too far.

He was hired by GW, as a freelancer, to do a (unknown) project. He's not "back at" GW, just hired by GW for some project....

From Linkedin -

Matthew Ward
Author / Freelance Writer / Creative Consultant
Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, United Kingdom
Writing and Editing
Current The Tower of Stars

Freelance Writing Services / Creative Consultancy
The Tower of Stars
November 2014 – Present (1 year 10 months)
- Providing bespoke, quality writing in a range of fields, to suit clients' needs.
- Experienced creative direction, refining world, characters, concepts and narratives.
1 project
Vermintide
Crafted story and dialogue for the immersive and critically-acclaimed action adventure set in the iconic Warhammer: End Times.

Vermintide
November 2014 – May 2015
Crafted story and dialogue for the immersive and critically-acclaimed action adventure set in the iconic Warhammer: End Times.

 NorseSig wrote:

I worked in child protection for many years and I've taken in and worked with abused animals most of my life, if you want to hate someone, I have a long list of potential candidates for you, someone writing rules you don't like, for a game of toy soldiers, isn't one of them.


Do me a favour chaps and lets all wind that shiz in eh? You sound ridiculous.

And what I feel towards these kinds of people goes way beyond hate. Hate is something I reserve for someone who is an actual human being. You don't know me or know the measuring stick by which I judge things. So back off.

You're on a board dedicated to toy soldiers.

Calm down.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I never cared about Ward's rules (although he did break Fantasy with his Daemons book). I only cared about the fluff.

His naming conventions were beyond silly, and the Draigo stuff really is that bad. I don't care whether they were hopelessly broken or completely incapable of winning against the lowly Tau - the writing was silly!

40K has a certain silly element, but Blood Fists and Bloodshard Rounds and Bloodstrike Missiles and Nemesis DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM Fists were a very silly bridge too far.

That was just following the lead of Codex: Space Wolves by Kelly.

So, on the subject of mr Merrett, I heard on the grapevine today. He left GW this morning.

No verification yet, but if so, that might be the final step in the new dawn of a post kirby GW.

Will be interesting to see if that is true.

Then the question becomes did he jump or was he pushed?

NorseSig wrote:After what Matt Ward did to my Iron Hands, I have nothing but loathing and HATE for the man.

That is pretty petty. I mean to hate and loath someone over fiction or how plastic toy soldiers play? While I have been harsh on Cruddace (sorry forgot his first name.) I don't hate the man or loathe him. He can be a great person, just like Matt can be a great person.

To loath and hate a human being, wow man, just wow.

Merrett going?! Now that is good news! Bloke was toxic beyond belief

 zedmeister wrote:
Merrett going?! Now that is good news! Bloke was toxic beyond belief

No promises, but I am trying to verify with second source now.

We shall see, but post chapter house I think he showed his hand a little much.

THAT particular news deserves its own thread - and this one isn't it!

Also, keep in mind RULE #1 here - and there too!

 JonWebb wrote:


We shall see, but post chapter house I think he showed his hand a little much.

Indeed, his behaviour during chapter house was quite the eye opener. He's referred to GW fans as goobering and there's been plenty of gossip about his negative antics over the years. If anyone deserves criticism, it's him.

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RULE #2 IS...

...STAY ON TOPIC.

*Starts Collecting Sisters of Battle*
*Matt Ward posts that he has returned to GW*
RIP me and SoB

commander dante wrote:
*Starts Collecting Sisters of Battle*
*Matt Ward posts that he has returned to GW*
RIP me and SoB

Matt Ward tells you what army to collect?

Is every body missing that he said GW was his client. That means he is freelance. As far as I am aware they don't have freelance rules writers. It is much more likely that he is doing something for black library.

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Chikout wrote:
Is every body missing that he said GW was his client. That means he is freelance. As far as I am aware they don't have freelance rules writers. It is much more likely that he is doing something for black library.

Considering the prime reason a lot of people have a low opinion of him is his terrible, high school kid writing in his notebooks next to the TOTEZ METAL BRAH doodles of skulls etc-level fluff writing, that's not as reassuring as you might think.

 Yodhrin wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Is every body missing that he said GW was his client. That means he is freelance. As far as I am aware they don't have freelance rules writers. It is much more likely that he is doing something for black library.

Considering the prime reason a lot of people have a low opinion of him is his terrible, high school kid writing in his notebooks next to the TOTEZ METAL BRAH doodles of skulls etc-level fluff writing, that's not as reassuring as you might think.

Possibly but a black library novel is easily ignored if it is not good. If they happen to coincide with a campaign they are normally written around it not the other way around. There are plenty of novels which I ignore due to their bad reputation. They have absolutely no impact on the good ones, even if they are part of an ongoing series like the Heresy or the realmgate wars. They literally put out 20 books a year these days anyway. The only way someone could read everything is if they had an excess of both money and time.

 Dryaktylus wrote:
I don't think Ward will be involved in anything 40k or AoS. A novel is a good guess. Or maybe stuff for LotR.

 nels1031 wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Blame matt ward for everything. No wait, blame Jervis. Wait, no, it was Gav Thorpes fault. All of it.

Meanwhile, C.S. Goto lurks out there in the darkness, forgotten by all but a few haggard, crusty veterans who mumble incoherently about his reign of terror.

Brother-Captain Vermillion from the proud chapter of the Rainbow Warriors discovers an evil conspiracy inside the Holy Ecclesiarchy. Can he and his brothers stop the vicious Sister Sin and her minions from creating female Space Marines with the stolen gene-seed of their chapter?

I'd root for Sister Sin!
Anyhow I don't know why but I hope he will push for more SoB stuff.

Also, I have not yet seen this mentioned :

Matt Ward wrote:For the folk asking what I'm working on for GW, you get the same answer my wife gets: I can't tell you. That shouldn't be a surprise.

https://twitter.com/thetowerofstars/status/760853978607484928

Davor wrote:

NorseSig wrote:After what Matt Ward did to my Iron Hands, I have nothing but loathing and HATE for the man.

That is pretty petty. I mean to hate and loath someone over fiction or how plastic toy soldiers play? While I have been harsh on Cruddace (sorry forgot his first name.) I don't hate the man or loathe him. He can be a great person, just like Matt can be a great person.

To loath and hate a human being, wow man, just wow.

Especially considering that Iron Hands is a studio army and not his! They can change what they like about them.

 JonWebb wrote:
So, on the subject of mr Merrett, I heard on the grapevine today. He left GW this morning.

No verification yet, but if so, that might be the final step in the new dawn of a post kirby GW.

Will be interesting to see if that is true.

Icanlivewiththat.jpg


I have no codizes or armybooks from the Ward era afaik, but I greatly disliked the move to single authors per codex. Hire more staff or slow your releases, geez, you made £16 million of profit, you can hire a few more low pay creative types.

Chikout wrote:
Is every body missing that he said GW was his client. That means he is freelance. As far as I am aware they don't have freelance rules writers. It is much more likely that he is doing something for black library.

I know. I posted this a few pages back....

"He was hired by GW, as a freelancer, to do a (unknown) project. He's not "back at" GW, just hired by GW for some project....

From Linkedin -

Matthew Ward
Author / Freelance Writer / Creative Consultant
Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, United Kingdom
Writing and Editing
Current The Tower of Stars

Freelance Writing Services / Creative Consultancy
The Tower of Stars
November 2014 – Present (1 year 10 months)
- Providing bespoke, quality writing in a range of fields, to suit clients' needs.
- Experienced creative direction, refining world, characters, concepts and narratives.
1 project
Vermintide
Crafted story and dialogue for the immersive and critically-acclaimed action adventure set in the iconic Warhammer: End Times.

Vermintide
November 2014 – May 2015
Crafted story and dialogue for the immersive and critically-acclaimed action adventure set in the iconic Warhammer: End Times. "


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Oh, here is a link to HIS company -

http://thetowerofstars.com/




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From HIS website, what he has done for GW -

Codex: Blood Angels (2nd Edition)

Codex: Grey Knights (1st Edition)

Codex: Iyanden (1st Edition)

Codex: Necrons (2nd Edition)

Codex: Sentinels of Terra (1st Edition)

Codex: Space Marines (3rd Edition)

The Lord of the Rings: Battle of Pelennor Fields

The Lord of the Rings

Fall of the Necromancer

The Lord of the Rings: Gondor in Flames

The Lord of the Rings: Harad

The Lord of the Rings: Ruin of Arnor

The Lord of the Rings: Shadow and Flame

The Lord of the Rings: Shadow in the East

The Lord of the Rings:
The Scouring of the Shire

The Lord of the Rings: War of the Ring

Warhammer 40,000 Rulebook (5th Edition)

Warhammer 40,000 Rulebook (6th Edition)

Warhammer End Times: Nagash

Warhammer End Times: Khaine

Warhammer End Times: Archaon

Warhammer Rulebook (8th Edition)

Warhammer: Daemons of Chaos (1st Edition)

Warhammer: Daemons of Chaos (2nd Edition)

Warhammer: Dark Elves (4th Edition)

Warhammer: High Elves (5th Edition)

Warhammer: Orcs & Goblins (3rd Edition)

Warhammer: Storm of Magic

Warhammer: Wood Elves (2nd Edition)

Warhammer: Wood Elves (3rd Edition)

commander dante wrote:*Starts Collecting Sisters of Battle*
*Matt Ward posts that he has returned to GW*
RIP me and SoB

That is more about you than Matt. If this is suppose to be sarcasm I don't see it. This is just petty.

Now why not say "GW please make Sisters of Battle, I would love to spend a lot of money on it, but if it has bad rules/fluff, I feel like I can't justify buying it then." But nope you just said something petty. I guess that shows you how much you really like your SoB.

Chikout wrote:Is every body missing that he said GW was his client. That means he is freelance. As far as I am aware they don't have freelance rules writers. It is much more likely that he is doing something for black library.

It doesn't matter. We geeks and nerds are worse than bullies. We hide and cower behind a monitor being anonymous and make death threads. You really think we would see "client"? After all we can't focus on real life writing, only focus on the make believe writing.

RazorEdge wrote:Mat Ward should rest in Hades!

Again, wow. That speaks a lot of your character right there mate. I keep reading Matt Ward is a really nice person, and guy you would love to have as a friend. So to say someone should rest in Hell over plastic toy soldiers when he is a great person on real life is just shameful.

So you are saying he should sit right along besides Hitler and people who rape and murder and do other atrocities? Wow so shamed to be a nerd/geek/dork now.

Davor wrote:

commander dante wrote:*Starts Collecting Sisters of Battle*
*Matt Ward posts that he has returned to GW*
RIP me and SoB

That is more about you than Matt. If this is suppose to be sarcasm I don't see it. This is just petty.

Now why not say "GW please make Sisters of Battle, I would love to spend a lot of money on it, but if it has bad rules/fluff, I feel like I can't justify buying it then." But nope you just said something petty. I guess that shows you how much you really like your SoB.

Chikout wrote:Is every body missing that he said GW was his client. That means he is freelance. As far as I am aware they don't have freelance rules writers. It is much more likely that he is doing something for black library.

It doesn't matter. We geeks and nerds are worse than bullies. We hide and cower behind a monitor being anonymous and make death threads. You really think we would see "client"? After all we can't focus on real life writing, only focus on the make believe writing.

RazorEdge wrote:Mat Ward should rest in Hades!

Again, wow. That speaks a lot of your character right there mate. I keep reading Matt Ward is a really nice person, and guy you would love to have as a friend. So to say someone should rest in Hell over plastic toy soldiers when he is a great person on real life is just shameful.

So you are saying he should sit right along besides Hitler and people who rape and murder and do other atrocities? Wow so shamed to be a nerd/geek/dork now.

Looks like your stuck on the Moral High Ground
We might have to launch a rescue....

I am wondering if it's time for this thread to be locked. Like this is why we don't have authors name on rule books and codices now because of hate like this and death threats being made.

If "resting in hades" is not almost like a death threat then I guess anything is acceptable on Dakka.

Please keep in mind that Rule Number One Be Polite doesn't just apply to people posting in this thread. Keep criticism impersonal. Thanks!

Back on Topic:
Matt Ward did add some cool things to the fluff
Castellan Crowe and Trazyn the Infinite are such examples

Well, if we're going to have Ward write an overpowered Codex (which it doesn't look like he'll be doing), they might as well have him write a new Sisters of Battle Codex and turn them into Amazons that can cleave Marines in twain with one swing of a weapon. If they put out new Sisters miniatures, I'm sure they wouldn't mind some overpowered rules to help sell the models. And, the way things seem to be going, even if it's overpowered when it comes out, it won't be overpowered by the time the other updated codexes roll out.

Sorry, a little something popped in my mind right now... So, Ward got tons of mockery and insults for the Dreadknight, which is a high-tech hexoskeleton piloted by a trained space marine, and protected with a force field...

...yet people gloss over the Penitent Engine, which is a gas-guzzling walker with a common human strapped on the front, wearing just a robe and chains?

One difference is penatent thingie isn't supposed to be safe or sensible. Criminal is expected to diex he's sacrificial. Grew knight isn't

tneva82 wrote:
One difference is penatent thingie isn't supposed to be safe or sensible. Criminal is expected to diex he's sacrificial. Grew knight isn't

That was odd. The engines were described as holy relics; ancient and sacred. One of the things you don't expect is that they use them as suicide equipment for sinners where they are destroyed most likely.

Matt Ward wrote:For the folk asking what I'm working on for GW, you get the same answer my wife gets: I can't tell you. That shouldn't be a surprise.

"What did you do last night?"
"I can't tell you."
"Is this lipstick on your collar?"
"I can't tell you."
"Did you take out the trash?"
"I can't tell you."
"How do I look in this dress?"
"I can't tell you."
"What kind of nerdy stuff are you doing for Games Workshop?"
"I can't tell you."


Guess we'll have to wait and see.

tneva82 wrote:
One difference is penatent thingie isn't supposed to be safe or sensible. Criminal is expected to diex he's sacrificial. Grew knight isn't

And the Dreadknight is supposed to operate against enemies who don't use snipers, such as Chaos Demons and rarely Chaos Space Marines. So, again, the design of the Dreadknight is flawed because Matt Ward (who simply wrote the detailed lore and the rules, and didn't design the model nor its basic lore) while the Penitent Engine is a wonderful demonstration of the baroque, gothic aesthetic of the 40K?

I think there's way too much negative bias for that guy. Am rather pleased he's working with GW again. Plus, Centurions look far more clunky and awful...

I thought his fluff was silly but that's more or less GW's MO with 40k lore the last many years. Otherwise he seemed enthusiastic about the universe, so I'm happy for him.

Davor wrote:

commander dante wrote:*Starts Collecting Sisters of Battle*
*Matt Ward posts that he has returned to GW*
RIP me and SoB

That is more about you than Matt. If this is suppose to be sarcasm I don't see it. This is just petty.

Now why not say "GW please make Sisters of Battle, I would love to spend a lot of money on it, but if it has bad rules/fluff, I feel like I can't justify buying it then." But nope you just said something petty. I guess that shows you how much you really like your SoB.

I see it as amusing.

Isn't Ward the guy who wrote fluff about Grey Knights slaughtering Sisters of Battle so that the Knights could coat themselves in blood?

(yes, it was technically described in slightly different words)

Makes sense that a fan of the Sisters would be somewhat leery of what Ward might do next.

^_^

 Adam Spielmann wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
One difference is penatent thingie isn't supposed to be safe or sensible. Criminal is expected to diex he's sacrificial. Grew knight isn't

And the Dreadknight is supposed to operate against enemies who don't use snipers, such as Chaos Demons and rarely Chaos Space Marines. So, again, the design of the Dreadknight is flawed because Matt Ward (who simply wrote the detailed lore and the rules, and didn't design the model nor its basic lore) while the Penitent Engine is a wonderful demonstration of the baroque, gothic aesthetic of the 40K?

I think there's way too much negative bias for that guy. Am rather pleased he's working with GW again. Plus, Centurions look far more clunky and awful...

The problem with the Dreadknight is it was totally unnecessary from the original lore; part of what made Grey Knights awesome was that they didn't need massive war machines. They could face down a daemon prince with just a sword and their faith in the Emperor. Ironically that makes the rather shaky Draigo fluff more in keeping with the original concept than everyone wants!

And you're right, he certainly didn't design the model or even the concept.

 Dryaktylus wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
One difference is penatent thingie isn't supposed to be safe or sensible. Criminal is expected to diex he's sacrificial. Grew knight isn't

That was odd. The engines were described as holy relics; ancient and sacred. One of the things you don't expect is that they use them as suicide equipment for sinners where they are destroyed most likely.

Machine yes, sinner inside it no. They are there to get absolution from their sins by dying. Hopefully taking somebody with them. But church probably isn't too happy if death sentenced manages to actually come back alive.


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 Adam Spielmann wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
One difference is penatent thingie isn't supposed to be safe or sensible. Criminal is expected to diex he's sacrificial. Grew knight isn't

And the Dreadknight is supposed to operate against enemies who don't use snipers, such as Chaos Demons and rarely Chaos Space Marines. So, again, the design of the Dreadknight is flawed because Matt Ward (who simply wrote the detailed lore and the rules, and didn't design the model nor its basic lore) while the Penitent Engine is a wonderful demonstration of the baroque, gothic aesthetic of the 40K?

I think there's way too much negative bias for that guy. Am rather pleased he's working with GW again. Plus, Centurions look far more clunky and awful...

That's my point. Dreadknight makes no sense. Peninent engine meanwhile the sinner controlling isn't SUPPOSED to come back alive. So it isn't odd that he's so vulnerable. That's the bloody point. He's there to die. Grey knight isn't.

 doctortom wrote:
Well, if we're going to have Ward write an overpowered Codex (which it doesn't look like he'll be doing), they might as well have him write a new Sisters of Battle Codex and turn them into Amazons that can cleave Marines in twain with one swing of a weapon.

Yes please!

tneva82 wrote:
That's my point. Dreadknight makes no sense. Peninent engine meanwhile the sinner controlling isn't SUPPOSED to come back alive. So it isn't odd that he's so vulnerable. That's the bloody point. He's there to die. Grey knight isn't.

Penitent engine doesn't make sense. If you want to kill someone, you don't need to waste a precious walker, and if you want a precious walker to kill enemies, you'd better protect the pilot at least a little bit. The two objectives of the Penitent Engine (i.e. killing enemies and killing the pilot) are in direct contradiction.

I had no problem with a dreadnight, just didn't like the design, we will just have to wait and see what the MW'ster will do

Eumerin wrote:

Davor wrote:

commander dante wrote:*Starts Collecting Sisters of Battle*
*Matt Ward posts that he has returned to GW*
RIP me and SoB

That is more about you than Matt. If this is suppose to be sarcasm I don't see it. This is just petty.

Now why not say "GW please make Sisters of Battle, I would love to spend a lot of money on it, but if it has bad rules/fluff, I feel like I can't justify buying it then." But nope you just said something petty. I guess that shows you how much you really like your SoB.

I see it as amusing.

Isn't Ward the guy who wrote fluff about Grey Knights slaughtering Sisters of Battle so that the Knights could coat themselves in blood?

(yes, it was technically described in slightly different words)

Makes sense that a fan of the Sisters would be somewhat leery of what Ward might do next.

^_^

With all the Matt bashing on again, is just petty now. Nothing is funny. Talk about beating a dead horse.

Want to be taken serious, talk serious. Otherwise we are no better than Kirby and all his antics he said.

 Dryaktylus wrote:
That was odd. The engines were described as holy relics; ancient and sacred. One of the things you don't expect is that they use them as suicide equipment for sinners where they are destroyed most likely.

They put out the PR spin that they are ancient and holy relics. Actually, the AdMechs knocked up the penitent engines to be "ork-bait" - let the orks steal those instead of more valuable vehicles and let the orks have fun getting grots to man the penitent engines.

Davor wrote:


With all the Matt bashing on again, is just petty now. Nothing is funny. Talk about beating a dead horse.

Want to be taken serious, talk serious. Otherwise we are no better than Kirby and all his antics he said.

Seriously, Matt Ward coming back to GW terrifies me. I was very happy when he left.

Not that I had anything against him personally, it's just his fluff was so challenging. My imagination hurts when I think about him.

 techsoldaten wrote:

Davor wrote:


With all the Matt bashing on again, is just petty now. Nothing is funny. Talk about beating a dead horse.

Want to be taken serious, talk serious. Otherwise we are no better than Kirby and all his antics he said.

Seriously, Matt Ward coming back to GW terrifies me. I was very happy when he left.

Not that I had anything against him personally, it's just his fluff was so challenging. My imagination hurts when I think about him.

Honestly I'd rather have him write some crunch again, I mean after Phil Kelly makes an even stronger Wraithknight two editions in a row, add's S: D weapons all over. Maybe we can have Ward write the Ork Codex and Tyranids instead of Cruddace, they need some love.

Say what you want, Matt showed enthusiasm for every project he worked on, I'll take that over the guys writing codicies as if they were being punished because it wasn't their favourite army.

Joyboozer wrote:
Say what you want, Matt showed enthusiasm for every project he worked on

Possibly because he only ever wrote stuff he was a fan of?

 His Master's Voice wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
Say what you want, Matt showed enthusiasm for every project he worked on

Possibly because he only ever wrote stuff he was a fan of?

Daemons, Sisters of Battle (had a decent 5th edition WD codex at least), High Elves, SM, BA, Necrons, Grey Knights, Dark Elves

Dude had a decent spread at least.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
Say what you want, Matt showed enthusiasm for every project he worked on

Possibly because he only ever wrote stuff he was a fan of?

Daemons, Sisters of Battle (had a decent 5th edition WD codex at least), High Elves, SM, BA, Necrons, Grey Knights, Dark Elves

Dude had a decent spread at least.

His Dark Elf book wasn't great in terms of fluff. Dragging the whole "Slaanesh eats elf souls" thing in from 40K was completely unnecessary. Gav Thorpe has always written the best Dark Elf army books, IMO.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
Say what you want, Matt showed enthusiasm for every project he worked on

Possibly because he only ever wrote stuff he was a fan of?

Daemons, Sisters of Battle (had a decent 5th edition WD codex at least), High Elves, SM, BA, Necrons, Grey Knights, Dark Elves

Dude had a decent spread at least.

His Dark Elf book wasn't great in terms of fluff. Dragging the whole "Slaanesh eats elf souls" thing in from 40K was completely unnecessary.

That seemed like an overhead change, since that had to be approved from above, I tend to focus more on the crunch then the fluff at times but one could see that he certainly enjoyed creating new special things. Which tends to annoys me when we get some really bad and bland codexs (New Orks, how do you make Orks so bland!)

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
Say what you want, Matt showed enthusiasm for every project he worked on

Possibly because he only ever wrote stuff he was a fan of?

Daemons, Sisters of Battle (had a decent 5th edition WD codex at least), High Elves, SM, BA, Necrons, Grey Knights, Dark Elves

Dude had a decent spread at least.

His Dark Elf book wasn't great in terms of fluff. Dragging the whole "Slaanesh eats elf souls" thing in from 40K was completely unnecessary. Gav Thorpe has always written the best Dark Elf army books, IMO.

Gav Thorpe was the Matt Ward of his day.

Mat Ward is a better rules writer than Gav Thorpe.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
Say what you want, Matt showed enthusiasm for every project he worked on

Possibly because he only ever wrote stuff he was a fan of?

Daemons, Sisters of Battle (had a decent 5th edition WD codex at least), High Elves, SM, BA, Necrons, Grey Knights, Dark Elves

Dude had a decent spread at least.

... That's not a proud pedigree of destruction, considering what he did to each and every one of those books.

Not to remember to mention that it happened on his watch as the continued codex devolution brought on the large divisions of the fan bases for each and every one of those books.
Its fair to say that Ward was responsible for the current state of confusion that his garbage spawned. OP king that he is, he has no concept of game design. If he wants to stick to attempts at writing books, fine, at least he can't destroy a game system with his over the top confusion and killy-kill-kill skull fests.

I can do without that sort of enthusiasm. I was fine with the new and improved GW, now your basically bringing back one of the main culprits of their past money grabs and game devolution- Thanks, GW, but put this one back in the bad memory bin.

It's not like anyone else is making much better when it comes to 40k anymore, He did break 7th but as 40k goes its basically Eldar all the way down.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
It's not like anyone else is making much better when it comes to 40k anymore, He did break 7th but as 40k goes its basically Eldar all the way down.

The design studio don't have the chops any more. All the talent that built the game is long gone and doing good work elsewhere.

Has anyone discovered what temporary freelance project Ward/his company was hired for? Anyone?

 russian69hitman wrote:
Has anyone discovered what temporary freelance project Ward/his company was hired for? Anyone?

He said on his twitter it was, as with all things GW, top secret. I wouldn't expect to see it for a while though, the leadtime on projects can be as much as 2 years.

 Brother SRM wrote:

 russian69hitman wrote:
Has anyone discovered what temporary freelance project Ward/his company was hired for? Anyone?

He said on his twitter it was, as with all things GW, top secret. I wouldn't expect to see it for a while though, the leadtime on projects can be as much as 2 years.

There was something in an interview recently for Black Library discussing how they want to do more things like "The Beast Arises" series that is underway; self-contained story arcs that have a definite end frame.

I could see Ward maybe being brought in as part of that.

Fenrir Kitsune wrote:Blame matt ward for everything. No wait, blame Jervis. Wait, no, it was Gav Thorpes fault. All of it.

Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

 privateer4hire wrote:
I played 7th WFB, which had extremely serious imbalance toward the middle/end (demons, dark elves, vampire counts). Did this fella do those army books?

If memory serves, it was Gav Thorpe that did the Dark Elves army book, the same army book that had basic DE spearmen with light armour, shield, spear, eternal hatred, leadership 8, movement 5, WS and BS 4...for the same price as an unarmoured human with a spear...

Strangely, Thorpe never got the same amount of flak as Mat ward did

Binabik15 wrote:

 JonWebb wrote:
So, on the subject of mr Merrett, I heard on the grapevine today. He left GW this morning.

No verification yet, but if so, that might be the final step in the new dawn of a post kirby GW.

Will be interesting to see if that is true.

Icanlivewiththat.jpg


I have no codizes or armybooks from the Ward era afaik, but I greatly disliked the move to single authors per codex. Hire more staff or slow your releases, geez, you made £16 million of profit, you can hire a few more low pay creative types.

Fenrir Kitsune wrote:

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
Say what you want, Matt showed enthusiasm for every project he worked on

Possibly because he only ever wrote stuff he was a fan of?

Daemons, Sisters of Battle (had a decent 5th edition WD codex at least), High Elves, SM, BA, Necrons, Grey Knights, Dark Elves

Dude had a decent spread at least.

His Dark Elf book wasn't great in terms of fluff. Dragging the whole "Slaanesh eats elf souls" thing in from 40K was completely unnecessary. Gav Thorpe has always written the best Dark Elf army books, IMO.

Gav Thorpe was the Matt Ward of his day.

Crimson Devil wrote:Mat Ward is a better rules writer than Gav Thorpe.

Trying to tie too much stuff together here, this quote will be a mess.


Yeah, Gav had some... unique Codices and army books of his own, but I wouldn't use him as a measuring stick for Mat Ward. I'd say Mat is the Pete Haines of the more modern GW, and that's not something I'd want to see returning.

 Jadenim wrote:

 Adam Spielmann wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
One difference is penatent thingie isn't supposed to be safe or sensible. Criminal is expected to diex he's sacrificial. Grew knight isn't

And the Dreadknight is supposed to operate against enemies who don't use snipers, such as Chaos Demons and rarely Chaos Space Marines. So, again, the design of the Dreadknight is flawed because Matt Ward (who simply wrote the detailed lore and the rules, and didn't design the model nor its basic lore) while the Penitent Engine is a wonderful demonstration of the baroque, gothic aesthetic of the 40K?

I think there's way too much negative bias for that guy. Am rather pleased he's working with GW again. Plus, Centurions look far more clunky and awful...

The problem with the Dreadknight is it was totally unnecessary from the original lore; part of what made Grey Knights awesome was that they didn't need massive war machines. They could face down a daemon prince with just a sword and their faith in the Emperor. Ironically that makes the rather shaky Draigo fluff more in keeping with the original concept than everyone wants!

And you're right, he certainly didn't design the model or even the concept.

I remember reading from somewhere that the rules team has little to no say in how the models are designed and sculpted and are instead presented with finished models for which they need to write rules to include the wargear and equipment shown. Matt Ward does not deserve the flak that he gets for the Dreadknight, that should go towards the sculptors that made it.

 Just Tony wrote:

Fenrir Kitsune wrote:Blame matt ward for everything. No wait, blame Jervis. Wait, no, it was Gav Thorpes fault. All of it.

Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

 privateer4hire wrote:
I played 7th WFB, which had extremely serious imbalance toward the middle/end (demons, dark elves, vampire counts). Did this fella do those army books?

If memory serves, it was Gav Thorpe that did the Dark Elves army book, the same army book that had basic DE spearmen with light armour, shield, spear, eternal hatred, leadership 8, movement 5, WS and BS 4...for the same price as an unarmoured human with a spear...

Strangely, Thorpe never got the same amount of flak as Mat ward did

Binabik15 wrote:

 JonWebb wrote:
So, on the subject of mr Merrett, I heard on the grapevine today. He left GW this morning.

No verification yet, but if so, that might be the final step in the new dawn of a post kirby GW.

Will be interesting to see if that is true.

Icanlivewiththat.jpg


I have no codizes or armybooks from the Ward era afaik, but I greatly disliked the move to single authors per codex. Hire more staff or slow your releases, geez, you made £16 million of profit, you can hire a few more low pay creative types.

Fenrir Kitsune wrote:

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
Say what you want, Matt showed enthusiasm for every project he worked on

Possibly because he only ever wrote stuff he was a fan of?

Daemons, Sisters of Battle (had a decent 5th edition WD codex at least), High Elves, SM, BA, Necrons, Grey Knights, Dark Elves

Dude had a decent spread at least.

His Dark Elf book wasn't great in terms of fluff. Dragging the whole "Slaanesh eats elf souls" thing in from 40K was completely unnecessary. Gav Thorpe has always written the best Dark Elf army books, IMO.

Gav Thorpe was the Matt Ward of his day.

Crimson Devil wrote:Mat Ward is a better rules writer than Gav Thorpe.

Trying to tie too much stuff together here, this quote will be a mess.


Yeah, Gav had some... unique Codices and army books of his own, but I wouldn't use him as a measuring stick for Mat Ward. I'd say Mat is the Pete Haines of the more modern GW, and that's not something I'd want to see returning.

Hah, I think I know which WD Gav did the designer's notes on the desicion to make the spearelves so cheap. I don't have my WDs here or I would look it up.

I also read the WD introducing Haines (Cityfight codex) recently. Hey, btw, anyone interested in some rules for an army I play that are ridiculously OP? I mean, Iron Warriors really SHOULD have access to Khorne Berzerkers and Basilisks because anything but the biggest gun (back then) and amazing CC (back then) is unfluffy! Iron Within, Iron Without!

Ward returns? I see this as only a good thing. Eventually the whole universe will end up so confusing that someone will hit the re-set button and then we can all play in the bubble-realms

 Wulfmar wrote:
Ward returns? I see this as only a good thing. Eventually the whole universe will end up so confusing that someone will hit the re-set button and then we can all play in the bubble-realms

Huh? Not confusing now?


I still can't believe people are still not following rule #1 and keep bad mouthing Matt Ward. Wow this speaks of people's character WHO CAN'T JUST LET GO. come on people enough is enough. I don't even find the above funny, just placing blame. No wonder GW looks down on us, we deserve it. I guess Kirby was right after all. Way to go internet nerds/geeks, you just keep proving Kirby correct.

Unless Mat Ward is posting in this thread, rule 1 doesn't apply to him.

Davor wrote:

 Wulfmar wrote:
Ward returns? I see this as only a good thing. Eventually the whole universe will end up so confusing that someone will hit the re-set button and then we can all play in the bubble-realms

Huh? Not confusing now?


I still can't believe people are still not following rule #1 and keep bad mouthing Matt Ward. Wow this speaks of people's character WHO CAN'T JUST LET GO. come on people enough is enough. I don't even find the above funny, just placing blame. No wonder GW looks down on us, we deserve it. I guess Kirby was right after all. Way to go internet nerds/geeks, you just keep proving Kirby correct.

Oh geeze, you don't find my dryness funny. I do apologize.

Only, I wasn't being amusing.

Also, don't bother attributing Ward hatred - I have equal amounts of... what's the best phrase... tiredness? with the raft of writers who have led to the bloated 40K and vast array of codices, dataslates, mini-slates, codi-slates, formation-slates and other stuff we have now.


You enjoy justifying the actions of GW like the beaten housewife

 A Town Called Malus wrote:
Unless Mat Ward is posting in this thread, rule 1 doesn't apply to him.

That is actually incorrect.

Rule #1 applies to everyone, at all times.

After all, who knows who is and is not a member here, and who is and is not actually reading all of this?

And generally speaking, in life, it is always the right choice to err on the side of politeness.

Fair enough, I misunderstood and I'll keep that in mind.

 Wulfmar wrote:

Davor wrote:

 Wulfmar wrote:
Ward returns? I see this as only a good thing. Eventually the whole universe will end up so confusing that someone will hit the re-set button and then we can all play in the bubble-realms

Huh? Not confusing now?


I still can't believe people are still not following rule #1 and keep bad mouthing Matt Ward. Wow this speaks of people's character WHO CAN'T JUST LET GO. come on people enough is enough. I don't even find the above funny, just placing blame. No wonder GW looks down on us, we deserve it. I guess Kirby was right after all. Way to go internet nerds/geeks, you just keep proving Kirby correct.

Oh geeze, you don't find my dryness funny. I do apologize.

Only, I wasn't being amusing.

Also, don't bother attributing Ward hatred - I have equal amounts of... what's the best phrase... tiredness? with the raft of writers who have led to the bloated 40K and vast array of codices, dataslates, mini-slates, codi-slates, formation-slates and other stuff we have now.


You enjoy justifying the actions of GW like the beaten housewife

Comparing domestic violence with people playing plastic toy soldiers..........real classy.

 Wulfmar wrote:



You enjoy justifying the actions of GW like the beaten housewife

As someone who had to watch domestic violence in his family (extended family, not immediate), this is neither cute nor funny. Can we not make light of one of the most serious issues plaguing the country and the world? The victims would appreciate it.

Or we could not make a big deal attracting attention to it, use the yellow triangle and move on?

Actually, at this point, I think we now know that Mr. Ward is working for GW again in some capacity, most likely some freelance work?

I think that the "News" and/or "Rumors" portion of this thread is...complete.