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 angelofvengeance wrote:

 n0t_u wrote:
Good if he joins them again, he might actually help fix the crappy mess 40k has become.

I find this amusing as he helped make it that way lol.

Was he behind the formations necrons got? Cause his crap was still better than what 40k gets now. That's how bad it's got.

I figure Ward would fit nicely in an AoS context.
Just imagine him let loose on the stormcast lore.
Epic, exaggerated and outrageously over he top.
Jup, he will fit right in.

 Fayric wrote:
I figure Ward would fit nicely in an AoS context.
Just imagine him let loose on the stormcast lore.
Epic, exaggerated and outrageously over he top.
Jup, he will fit right in.

Oh god no. I am terrified of some of rules he might do for 40k or AOS armies oh dear god.

I still have bad memories of friends being upset facing high elves and daemons those were not good times.

 Fayric wrote:
I figure Ward would fit nicely in an AoS context.
Just imagine him let loose on the stormcast lore.
Epic, exaggerated and outrageously over he top.
Jup, he will fit right in.

Haha, yup, a match made in heaven. And funnily enough I have noticed a fairly strong correlation between people who thought Ward's Draigo-etc fluff was awesome and people who enjoy AoS, and vice versa.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Fayric wrote:
I figure Ward would fit nicely in an AoS context.
Just imagine him let loose on the stormcast lore.
Epic, exaggerated and outrageously over he top.
Jup, he will fit right in.

Haha, yup, a match made in heaven. And funnily enough I have noticed a fairly strong correlation between people who thought Ward's Draigo-etc fluff was awesome and people who enjoy AoS, and vice versa.

The sigmarines is pretty much a whole bunch of Draigos isn't they, so it makes sense.

I think the 5th ed Grey Knights codex was mostly dull, in terms of both fluff and rules, and had stuff in that was blatantly OP (notably Psyflemen), and was probably the start of the current disconnect between points levels and power levels: marines with free power weapons? Sure, marines and power weapons are not exactly a great fit, but when everyone else's marines can buy PW at 15 points a time, and your entire *marine*, including power weapon, storm bolter, dude, and free psychic powers, oh and by the way that's actually a force weapon not a power weapon, only costs 20 points, it's pretty clear that it should be fine a couple of codexes down the line to give everyone free Rhinos and Drop Pods, right? Because given a base cost for a marine of around 14 pts, it's pretty clear that our GKs are paying around 2 points each for their force weapons, storm bolters, deep strike ability and psychic powers. All right, 1.5 points for each of those things. Anyway. Not convinced Ward was ever any good at anything other than selling a load of minis by writing OP rules... Oh, OK, he was actually the perfect GW employee.

Matt Ward is actually Leman Russ.

Russ said he would be back in the very end for the Wolftime for the final battle and the End Times of 40K.

 Quarterdime wrote:
New client? How about an old client?

Poor guy can't even write a good tweet.

You know the difference between a client and being a full time employee right?


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 angelofvengeance wrote:

 n0t_u wrote:
Good if he joins them again, he might actually help fix the crappy mess 40k has become.

I find this amusing as he helped make it that way lol.

He did? So no one at GW told him "No stop Matt, you are making a mess of our company."

Yes Matt is the sole reason for what 40K has become. Yeah right.

Blame matt ward for everything. No wait, blame Jervis. Wait, no, it was Gav Thorpes fault. All of it.

Please bring back Matt Ward to write rules. Let 8th come and purge the unworthy, so we may drown in their salty tears.

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Blame matt ward for everything. No wait, blame Jervis. Wait, no, it was Gav Thorpes fault. All of it.

Meanwhile, C.S. Goto lurks out there in the darkness, forgotten by all but a few haggard, crusty veterans who mumble incoherently about his reign of terror.

 nels1031 wrote:

Meanwhile, C.S. Goto lurks out there in the darkness, forgotten by all but a few haggard, crusty veterans who mumble incoherently about his reign of terror.

The people will look up and shout "Save us!"
and I'll whisper
"Multilasers."

He's probably back to bathe more Grey Knights in SoBs' blood... ya know... like they do from time to time 'to be pure'... by preforming a Khorne ritual.

-_-

 Brother SRM wrote:

 nels1031 wrote:

Meanwhile, C.S. Goto lurks out there in the darkness, forgotten by all but a few haggard, crusty veterans who mumble incoherently about his reign of terror.

The people will look up and shout "Save us!"
and I'll whisper
"Multilasers."

Rorschach's Journal, 2016, "Today a Good SoB codex was killed in GW HQ"


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 Revarien wrote:
He's probably back to bathe more Grey Knights in SoBs' blood... ya know... like they do from time to time 'to be pure'... by preforming a Khorne ritual.

-_-

Didnt Ward write the last SoB codex?
It was Ok, i hope he is back to write a new one...(ANYTHING is better than nothing for SoB currently)

I think many people forget, what of a good job he had done.
None of us - or few of us - recognized it at the time. Each new Codex, the tournament crowd would roar up, how OP it was.

But each time after a couple of months at the latest, things were fine. Sure, the newer books were significantly stronger than the drove of books in dire need of update for up to a dozen years,

however, tournament play was fun, there wa slots of gak going on, many different books and many different builds being fielded.

Compare this to now: gak is OP, Eldar are crap, there's new rules popping out so fast that basically nobody who isn't absolutely obsessive can keep up with the schedule, formations and stuff has fethed army composition up beyond recognition.

Ward was probably the best thing that had happened to 40k, but at the time: Nobody saw it. Back then, the tournament crowd in germany was ( from my own estimation ) at least two or three times the size it is nowadays.

There is a reason for that. Disregarding uproars and stuff, people voting with their feet and wallet ( i.e. walking out and not competing in tournaments anymore ) are in the end the best gauge to estimate the state of a game.

40k is fethed up.
It was good while Ward was writing it.

It was fethed up back then too. It's just much worse now, so the old times looks better in comparison.

The tournament scene was still reasonably healthy. But that was in spite of the work of Ward and people like him, not because of it.

There's no way he's writing the fluff or rules for 8th edition base rules. If there is a big lore update coming (as hinted previously), they've been working on it for quite some time. Especially if it has a projected release of early next year, they would have begun working on it some point Q1 this year at the latest. Likely he'll be working on a new codex or army update, but the core of the game itself is likely well under way.

 MadCowCrazy wrote:
Are the GKs in line for a new codex update? Guess GW needs to butcher more Sisters to protect the GKs from some taint or another.

No. This time Matt has come back to write the Sister's of Battle glorious return to printed codex status !!

commander dante wrote:

Didnt Ward write the last SoB codex?
It was Ok, i hope he is back to write a new one...(ANYTHING is better than nothing for SoB currently)

I believe it was him and Cruddace who did the last SoB online codex.

Davor wrote:

commander dante wrote:

Didnt Ward write the last SoB codex?
It was Ok, i hope he is back to write a new one...(ANYTHING is better than nothing for SoB currently)

I believe it was him and Cruddace who did the last SoB online codex.

If they did release a new codex, all i would want is for Celestine to get EW, and make her Sword AP2 in Close Combat (and potentially add blind to the ranged attack? It would fit with the fluff (It shines so bright, none can look at it))

I don't think Ward will be involved in anything 40k or AoS. A novel is a good guess. Or maybe stuff for LotR.

 nels1031 wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Blame matt ward for everything. No wait, blame Jervis. Wait, no, it was Gav Thorpes fault. All of it.

Meanwhile, C.S. Goto lurks out there in the darkness, forgotten by all but a few haggard, crusty veterans who mumble incoherently about his reign of terror.

Brother-Captain Vermillion from the proud chapter of the Rainbow Warriors discovers an evil conspiracy inside the Holy Ecclesiarchy. Can he and his brothers stop the vicious Sister Sin and her minions from creating female Space Marines with the stolen gene-seed of their chapter?

 Dryaktylus wrote:

Brother-Captain Vermillion from the proud chapter of the Rainbow Warriors discovers an evil conspiracy inside the Holy Ecclesiarchy. Can he and his brothers stop the vicious Sister Sin and her minions from creating female Space Marines with the stolen gene-seed of their chapter?

I'd read it.

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

 Dryaktylus wrote:

Brother-Captain Vermillion from the proud chapter of the Rainbow Warriors discovers an evil conspiracy inside the Holy Ecclesiarchy. Can he and his brothers stop the vicious Sister Sin and her minions from creating female Space Marines with the stolen gene-seed of their chapter?

I'd read it.

For a bit I thought it was a real novel.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
To be honest, Ward was actually a pretty good rules writer. His codexes had excellent internal Balance (at least relative to the current ones) and weren't too far off from each other in terms of external balance. Keep him away from the fluff and let him write the rules and things will actually be pretty good.

WHFB 7th edition Daemons of Chaos say hi.

 Dryaktylus wrote:
I don't think Ward will be involved in anything 40k or AoS. A novel is a good guess. Or maybe stuff for LotR.

 nels1031 wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Blame matt ward for everything. No wait, blame Jervis. Wait, no, it was Gav Thorpes fault. All of it.

Meanwhile, C.S. Goto lurks out there in the darkness, forgotten by all but a few haggard, crusty veterans who mumble incoherently about his reign of terror.

Brother-Captain Vermillion from the proud chapter of the Rainbow Warriors discovers an evil conspiracy inside the Holy Ecclesiarchy. Can he and his brothers stop the vicious Sister Sin and her minions from creating female Space Marines with the stolen gene-seed of their chapter?

...Why does this sound like bad fanfic from a certain fandom that I dread to bring up?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Probably just some novels.

Man now I want a book by him called 'Dragio, Interrupted'.

I think he is hired to get more girls to game

'50 shades of Draigo'

I do not think they could make the sigmarines any more op in lore then they are. Fist of gork story

gordakk the strongest baddest ironjaw there is who are the strongest best orks. Largest of his kind an equal, to any living creature may be the gods fury reborn.

John marine shows up, fights him and matches him blow for blow and almost won.

everything in the lore is like 40k they are there just to show how bad ass the space marines are. So when you hear about a guy who could rule the galaxy.... chances are he is about to get ass slapped around a room for a while.

MORE ON TOPIC, LESS LULZ.

Thanks!

 Korinov wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
To be honest, Ward was actually a pretty good rules writer. His codexes had excellent internal Balance (at least relative to the current ones) and weren't too far off from each other in terms of external balance. Keep him away from the fluff and let him write the rules and things will actually be pretty good.

WHFB 7th edition Daemons of Chaos say hi.

His only real worst one (and quite literally his first book written), and we've still got Cruddace ruining Tyranids alongside Phil "Eldar will be da best every edition I write them!" Kelly. Yet they STILL don't get as much flak as he does despite ruining more.

It does seem more like he's writing a black library book though.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

pm713 wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
To be honest, Ward was actually a pretty good rules writer. His codexes had excellent internal Balance (at least relative to the current ones) and weren't too far off from each other in terms of external balance. Keep him away from the fluff and let him write the rules and things will actually be pretty good.

Didn't he make ridiculously OP GK, and ruin 7th Fantasy with Daemons? Plus the High Elves book. He is not good at rules.

And everything he wrote was approved by someone higher up, so let's take a moment to remember the name Alan Merrett, who stated, in court, that he believes that GW's customers' favorite hobby is buying GW products.

Never in my time on Dakka were truer words spoken. Merrett is, I believe, the center of a lot of my personal gripes with the company over the years, many of the gripes I'd attributed to writers and creatives below him and Kirby drifting above him.

As for Ward, he certainly didn't write the drizzle of piss that was the last Ork codex and that phoned in filth is the worst codex in years. He also didn't give D weapons and scatterlazorrrz to every bloody single unit in Eldar, did he... Some of his naming tropes were poor, some of his background was Mary-Sueish, but honestly we've seen far worse. The prosecution of online vendetta towards the bloke is unreasonable hyperbolic nonsense and the fairly reliable rumor relayed to me that he had his life threatened at a GW event in the states by an ex-services player (along with other such bonkers bs as Gav T's home address being put up on druchii.net with a call to send him such things as phials of blood etc for writing a poor book) should go to show that this has almost eliminated 'names' in GW now and it's why we don't get names in the books any more, and you know something? I bloody miss named characters at GW, I miss that long list of obnoxious photos and larger than life personalities like fat bloke, Chambers of secrets, Stillmania etc, I'd like to see it again, but who the hell wants to stick their head above the pulpit and get into the crosshairs of the mob these days.

Lads, lay off it. Take a breath, pull yer trousers up and take some moral high ground. If the guy has returned to write novels, wait til the novel comes out and assess it on it's merits.