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First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 14:37:22


Post by: Chikout


The white dwarf Facebook page shared this. https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14434841_1679842175595723_5853583765197631736_o.jpg I am super happy to see masterclasses come back.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 14:38:43


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First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 14:54:19


Post by: Hanskrampf


Well, didn't plan on buying this issue, but that article is a big plus. Let's see what else is in it and I might change my mind.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 16:27:54


Post by: MrMoustaffa


I think this is the first White dwarf article I've ever considered buying. I've always had trouble with faces and that would be very handy to have


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 16:34:50


Post by: unmercifulconker


*Snnniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiff*

Haaaaahh, Eavy Metal articles.



First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 16:37:41


Post by: Paradigm


Awesome, I was really hoping these articles would make a comeback! Looks very much like the old format which bodes well.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 16:38:09


Post by: Kanluwen



Y'know, that explains why doing Base->Layer I have never really been able to duplicate their Guard flesh tones for the studio models 100%...

Because they do it Layer->Base, while the guides are always Base->Layer.

Huh. Neat!


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 17:35:34


Post by: Agamemnon2


I doubt the studio painters follow this, or any other hobbyist-level guides.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 18:57:24


Post by: Brother SRM


I've been kinda worried to start my Guilliman because I wanted to make sure the face was painted really well - I think the timing of this article is pretty great!


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 19:10:28


Post by: Binabik15


There used to be an article about painting faces on the old GW site many years ago which started similiar to this. It was the first article I remember that really talked about a blue wash for the lower eyelid and red for the lips, a simple tip which helped me a great deal back then. If this does the same for other painters it'd be ace.

PS: If anyone still has a copy of the old article, sharing it would be great.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 19:28:55


Post by: unmercifulconker


I do remember something about an article for faces in the past

I just hope this helps do the eyes. My guys always end up looking like the googly eyed monster. I just leave them white for now.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 19:39:30


Post by: Do_I_Not_Like_That


Telephone call from WD350. They want their article back

This 'new' article is almost identical!


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 19:42:14


Post by: Mr_Rose


 Agamemnon2 wrote:
I doubt the studio painters follow this, or any other hobbyist-level guides.

Oh, and what do they do then? Mist the paint on in perfect layers using their fine telekinesis, honed by years of eating boiled rice one grain at a time with no hands?


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 20:02:58


Post by: Formosa


 Mr_Rose wrote:
 Agamemnon2 wrote:
I doubt the studio painters follow this, or any other hobbyist-level guides.

Oh, and what do they do then? Mist the paint on in perfect layers using their fine telekinesis, honed by years of eating boiled rice one grain at a time with no hands?


no he is correct, almost every "eavy metal" guide ive seen misses steps from its "how to", the better at painting I got over the years the more I realised this.

so to say that they likely don't follow there own guides, is probably true.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 20:04:41


Post by: endtransmission


Heh. I wonder if the Eavy Metal article mentions their biggest timesaving tip. Only paint the parts the camera will see

Nice to see the return of some more advanced painting tips though. It looks really useful so far


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 20:07:18


Post by: Nevelon


 Formosa wrote:
 Mr_Rose wrote:
 Agamemnon2 wrote:
I doubt the studio painters follow this, or any other hobbyist-level guides.

Oh, and what do they do then? Mist the paint on in perfect layers using their fine telekinesis, honed by years of eating boiled rice one grain at a time with no hands?


no he is correct, almost every "eavy metal" guide ive seen misses steps from its "how to", the better at painting I got over the years the more I realised this.

so to say that they likely don't follow there own guides, is probably true.


I always got a laugh out of their old 3 step “guides”

Step 1 - Primed
Step 2 - Colors blocked in
Step 3 - Golden Demon!

Not that there isn’t a lot of useful info to be gleaned out of them, but you need to acquire a lot of techniques they don’t go into details for to get their results.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 20:12:03


Post by: Bottle


The article looks great. Trying Doombull brown mixed Abaddon Black in the recesses already seems like a good technique to try out. That's all the article needs to do; provide a new technique to try.

For a true Eavy Metal masterclass, Darren Latham's (head judge at Golden Demon) blog has a great guide:

http://razzaminipainting.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/dwarf-skin-tutorial.html



First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 20:47:41


Post by: Mr. Burning


Well, an excuse to flip through WD at Smiths now. Might even lead to the odd purchase now and then.

Little steps GW, little steps.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 21:32:29


Post by: Yodhrin


 Mr. Burning wrote:
Well, an excuse to flip through WD at Smiths now. Might even lead to the odd purchase now and then.

Little steps GW, little steps.


They're bagged, so no newsagent-library action alas.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 21:46:06


Post by: sockwithaticket


 Formosa wrote:
 Mr_Rose wrote:
 Agamemnon2 wrote:
I doubt the studio painters follow this, or any other hobbyist-level guides.

Oh, and what do they do then? Mist the paint on in perfect layers using their fine telekinesis, honed by years of eating boiled rice one grain at a time with no hands?


no he is correct, almost every "eavy metal" guide ive seen misses steps from its "how to", the better at painting I got over the years the more I realised this.

so to say that they likely don't follow there own guides, is probably true.


Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. The painted examples for Betrayal at Calth were actually really damned good with some genuine blending going on in places. A lot of stuff very clearly gets nothing more than the base, shade, layer, highlight treatment. When I first flipped through my most ecent BA codex I was actually slightly horrified at how poor a lot of the models were when you gave them more than a cursory glance.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 22:01:04


Post by: Snake Tortoise


I look forward to seeing this because I avoid painting human faces to the extent I never model a power armoured guy without a helmet. Human sized daemons/monster/tyranid type infantry is fine because teeth, big tongues and eyes without pupils are so much easier to paint than human faces which I find so, so easy to get wrong


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 22:12:41


Post by: NinthMusketeer


TBF if they went through the entire painting process it would likely be a very tedious read and include layers of information most people wouldn't be interested in. Watering it down to just the highlights makes for a better article I think.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 22:34:59


Post by: JohnnyHell


New realtime video series from Duncan: Watching Paint Dry On Small Plastic Men. No *whoosh* noise, nothing skipped... just full, uninterrupted coverage of water-based acrylic paint layers curing.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 23:35:06


Post by: Azazelx


 Binabik15 wrote:
There used to be an article about painting faces on the old GW site many years ago which started similiar to this. It was the first article I remember that really talked about a blue wash for the lower eyelid and red for the lips, a simple tip which helped me a great deal back then. If this does the same for other painters it'd be ace.

PS: If anyone still has a copy of the old article, sharing it would be great.


There are two of them, pretty easily found. I won't repost them, but Google is your friend. The articles were painting faces masterclass and painting faces redux.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/22 23:49:22


Post by: AllSeeingSkink


Yeah if you're thinking about buying this WD because of the painting faces, just google to find the older articles. GW had them freely available on their website before it was updated.

They used to have a lot of LOTR masterclass articles that I wish I could get again, they were really good for learning how to make your models look a bit more realistic and gritty.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/23 01:34:29


Post by: Slayer-Fan123


That's an excellent idea for a tutorial and I applaud them for doing it. I won't use it because I don't believe in non-helmeted people in the 40k setting but it might help if I ever get into Daemons for any reason!


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/23 02:28:45


Post by: oni


Hmmm... The bushes used in this article are not the current Citadel brushes.

I wonder how I should interpret that.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/23 06:13:51


Post by: endtransmission


 oni wrote:
Hmmm... The bushes used in this article are not the current Citadel brushes.

I wonder how I should interpret that.


It looks like the style of brush that is included in the getting started paint sets (https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Build-Paint-Set-ENG)


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/23 06:19:52


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Telephone call from WD350. They want their article back

This 'new' article is almost identical!


This made me smile, both because it's almost certainly true, and because you actually remembered!


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/23 06:27:06


Post by: Pariah-Miniatures


Because the magazine is a reboot as with the article, this means we have to go through all the run of the mill how to paint articles that have been done in the not so distant past.

Hope this doesn't take away from Duncan


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Because the magazine is a reboot as with the article, this means we have to go through all the run of the mill how to paint articles that have been done in the not so distant past.

Hope this doesn't take away from Duncan


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/23 06:30:53


Post by: tneva82


 Mr_Rose wrote:
 Agamemnon2 wrote:
I doubt the studio painters follow this, or any other hobbyist-level guides.

Oh, and what do they do then? Mist the paint on in perfect layers using their fine telekinesis, honed by years of eating boiled rice one grain at a time with no hands?


More layers, more blending, more details.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/23 09:20:23


Post by: alphaecho


Pariah-Miniatures wrote:
Because the magazine is a reboot as with the article, this means we have to go through all the run of the mill how to paint articles that have been done in the not so distant past.

Hope this doesn't take away from Duncan


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Because the magazine is a reboot as with the article, this means we have to go through all the run of the mill how to paint articles that have been done in the not so distant past.

Hope this doesn't take away from Duncan


I think most hobby magazines are cyclic in nature to reflect new blood joining.

I remember comments being made previously that if someone start seeing the same kind of articles in WD or other hobby magazine, they may not need the mag anymore.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/23 11:06:00


Post by: Ragnar69


They have probably revamped the paint range since WD350, so now we get at least the current paint names without looking in conversion charts


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/23 11:23:51


Post by: MaxT


White Dwarf 350 was released over 7 years ago as well, it's reasonable to think the player base has changed a fair bit in that time !


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/23 11:49:08


Post by: Gen.Steiner


Ooooooh. This bodes well!


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/23 16:00:55


Post by: Ghaz


Another tidbit from the new White Dwarf:


[Thumb - AWD.jpg]


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/23 17:00:53


Post by: Mymearan


Oh man an interview with Jes! My hero


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/23 17:06:55


Post by: em_en_oh_pee


For reference, Aiden is on Instagram and is pretty great to follow!


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/23 17:15:53


Post by: BrookM


Jes Goodwin interview? Oh yes!


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/23 17:21:47


Post by: Lord Damocles


Painting Faces has been done numerous times before.

To be fair, though, you can hardly expect people to say, 'Gee willikers; I sure do want to learn how to paint faces. I'll just go find an out of print White Dwarf from [insert large number of years here] ago!'

It's not like it's the first time they've interviewed Jes, either.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/23 17:27:26


Post by: BrookM


Don't ruin the moment you sourpuss.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/23 19:36:56


Post by: Gen.Steiner


But each interview will reveal different things, and reflect his opinion and thoughts at that time.

I am looking forwards to reading that interview, and am keen to see how the Genestealer Cult is covered.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/24 07:34:41


Post by: Knockagh


I'm just crossing my fingers for another drawn cover, I reckon if we get two past we are on a home straight.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/24 08:20:31


Post by: Chikout


 Knockagh wrote:
I'm just crossing my fingers for another drawn cover, I reckon if we get two past we are on a home straight.

You should be happy then. (Next month is a photo)

[Thumb - image.png]


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/24 19:50:30


Post by: Knockagh


That's awesome


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/24 20:05:44


Post by: silverstu


Looking forward to the Jes Goodwin interview!


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/25 11:15:05


Post by: Gen.Steiner


I really wish that November was a painting. But October's Magus looks badass.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 07:48:06


Post by: Jehan-reznor


Is that Magus air guitaring with hi staff?


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 08:20:31


Post by: rtb02


 Lord Damocles wrote:
Painting Faces has been done numerous times before.

To be fair, though, you can hardly expect people to say, 'Gee willikers; I sure do want to learn how to paint faces. I'll just go find an out of print White Dwarf from [insert large number of years here] ago!'

It's not like it's the first time they've interviewed Jes, either.


We've had 8 editions of fantasy and around 6-7 of 40k and hundreds of white dwarfs. Clearly there is going to be an element of recycling.

That said, the painting article style is different and there are those that don't have older versions, would enjoy a refresher or are new to the hobby. Its all a huge welcomed change frpm the pointlessness that was WD weekly.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 08:20:46


Post by: xttz


Will the new WD list all releases for October, or just the first week's worth?

edit - yes it apparently does list them all


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 11:46:47


Post by: Motograter


Anything about the new battlemat in here?


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 11:47:04


Post by: Mymearan


Battlemat?


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 11:56:05


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


On the upcoming pricing list for stores along with the genestealer stuff (but no images from anybody, or conformation of what material it is yet)

Battle Mat: City Ruins - 50GBP



First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 11:56:47


Post by: Mymearan


Didn't see anything about it, no.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 12:11:32


Post by: Motograter


Its supposedly a 4' x 4 cityfight mat. I assume neoprene but that's just a guess


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 12:36:28


Post by: Thraxas Of Turai


New textured paints, sadly with microbeads in them:

https://postimg.org/image/eq7c65t7p/

Link from Mymearan who posted this over in the Genestealer Cult thread.



First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 12:48:27


Post by: em_en_oh_pee


 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
New textured paints, sadly with microbeads in them:

https://postimg.org/image/eq7c65t7p/

Link from Mymearan who posted this over in the Genestealer Cult thread.



Why sadly? Microbeads are awesome.



This stuff is the absolute easiest way to do loads of bases and the texture is fantastic. I assume these new Citadel paints will be very, very similar.

All GW has done lately is repack a lot of those "secret-not-secret" technical paints that people used. Like the crackle medium, clear red, and now these.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 12:57:32


Post by: Motograter


After this year microbeads are illegal in the UK at least that's what was on the news. Stuff like toothpaste that has them will need to reformulate as will these paints surely


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 13:02:55


Post by: Davor


What is this microbeads, and why do some people not like them and why would they be illegal in the UK?


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 13:08:41


Post by: Matt.Kingsley


 Motograter wrote:
After this year microbeads are illegal in the UK at least that's what was on the news. Stuff like toothpaste that has them will need to reformulate as will these paints surely


As I understand it, the UK ban is only for cosmetics and cleaning products, so GW won't have to reformulate.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 13:09:31


Post by: casvalremdeikun


 Motograter wrote:
After this year microbeads are illegal in the UK at least that's what was on the news. Stuff like toothpaste that has them will need to reformulate as will these paints surely
That is probably exclusive to perishables like toothpaste and soaps. No way GW is so dumb that they would release a product that is illegal.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 13:10:40


Post by: Thraxas Of Turai


Tiny little beads of plastic, usually less than 5mm small added to personal care products to aid exfoliation. Basically they take 100 years plus to biodegrade and are attributed with widespread pollution of the sea and local waterways. They are believed to have entered the food chain. A number of US states have already banned them and I believe the US plans to phase them out by mid 2017. The UK looks set to follow, as the poster above says the ban applies to cosmetics and personal care products.
http://storyofstuff.org/plastic-microbeads-ban-the-bead/


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 13:11:18


Post by: Mymearan


Isn't the reason microbeads are banned because they pollute the environment? You wouldn't flush this down the drain so I don't see it as a problem.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 13:14:27


Post by: Matt.Kingsley


Again though, so far they've only really been banned from cosmetics and cleaning products by various countries, not in general.


It shouldn't really be a massive problem as long as you're careful enough to remove any excess beads from your brushes before you wash them.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 13:32:04


Post by: BrookM


Ah, never mind!


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 15:10:33


Post by: Gen.Steiner


A 4x4 Cityfight battlemat would be great for Necromunda actually...


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 15:53:48


Post by: Azreal13


 Mymearan wrote:
Isn't the reason microbeads are banned because they pollute the environment? You wouldn't flush this down the drain so I don't see it as a problem.


What about the water you used to rinse the brush in (the fact that it can be used with a brush is listed as a plus.)

It's not going to be a lot, but I dare say each use of toothpaste with microbeads isn't a lot individually either.

I won't be using it, mostly because I have about a gajillion different basing options already, but the microbeads would give me pause as well.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 16:06:05


Post by: Motograter


 Gen.Steiner wrote:
A 4x4 Cityfight battlemat would be great for Necromunda actually...


I'd agree if it wasn't £50


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 16:23:47


Post by: xKillGorex


So who else has got their white dwarf, got home to find mine on the mat.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 16:29:54


Post by: Chikout


 Motograter wrote:
 Gen.Steiner wrote:
A 4x4 Cityfight battlemat would be great for Necromunda actually...


I'd agree if it wasn't £50

It comes with some ruins apparently.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 17:35:32


Post by: ImAGeek


 xKillGorex wrote:
So who else has got their white dwarf, got home to find mine on the mat.


Yeah, got mine too.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 17:37:38


Post by: NoggintheNog


 xKillGorex wrote:
So who else has got their white dwarf, got home to find mine on the mat.


Me too.Haven't looked at it yet though.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 17:50:28


Post by: Motograter


Chikout wrote:
 Motograter wrote:
 Gen.Steiner wrote:
A 4x4 Cityfight battlemat would be great for Necromunda actually...


I'd agree if it wasn't £50

It comes with some ruins apparently.


Ah interesting. Might be worth it. Will have to wait and see


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 17:51:05


Post by: xKillGorex


The free taster comic is quite nice, takes me back the the comics of early 2000s


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 18:40:50


Post by: tirnaog


Anyone in the Us get it yet?


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 21:40:23


Post by: GoatboyBeta


 Motograter wrote:
Chikout wrote:
 Motograter wrote:
 Gen.Steiner wrote:
A 4x4 Cityfight battlemat would be great for Necromunda actually...


I'd agree if it wasn't £50

It comes with some ruins apparently.


Ah interesting. Might be worth it. Will have to wait and see


I read it as the ruins are printed on the mat. Either way I'm interested. Its about the same price as a mat of the same size from other companies(in the UK anyway), and the board sections on the recent boxed games from GW have all impressed me so far with there artwork.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 22:13:20


Post by: casvalremdeikun


GoatboyBeta wrote:
 Motograter wrote:
Chikout wrote:
 Motograter wrote:
 Gen.Steiner wrote:
A 4x4 Cityfight battlemat would be great for Necromunda actually...


I'd agree if it wasn't £50

It comes with some ruins apparently.


Ah interesting. Might be worth it. Will have to wait and see


I read it as the ruins are printed on the mat. Either way I'm interested. Its about the same price as a mat of the same size from other companies(in the UK anyway), and the board sections on the recent boxed games from GW have all impressed me so far with there artwork.
If that is all there is, then no money for GW for this. Not when FAT Mats exist among other things.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 23:01:34


Post by: ScarletRose


Isn't the reason microbeads are banned because they pollute the environment? You wouldn't flush this down the drain so I don't see it as a problem.


I'm optimistic about my painting, but I know I'm going to strip some of my minis some of the time. And that'll get into the environment when I rinse the mins while stripping them.

I'm not worried about sand or cured greenstuff getting into the water because they aren't acting on that micro level to mess things up.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/26 23:05:41


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


any of us worrying about microbeads better not sand, scrape or file plastic minis as we'll be creating a bunch of them when we do

the amount we are going to release via texture basing paint is going to be small by comparision


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/27 01:50:35


Post by: Prometheum5


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
any of us worrying about microbeads better not sand, scrape or file plastic minis as we'll be creating a bunch of them when we do

the amount we are going to release via texture basing paint is going to be small by comparision


Sorry, but plastic dust/shavings are not the same thing as microbeads. Not that they aren't also harmful/hazardous when introduced as waste, but the issue with microbeads has to do with the fact that they are typically included in things that get washed down the drain, like soap or paint. When you wash out your brush in your water cup with some texture paint on there, it might not have a lot of texture beads left, but it's still some, and when you're done painting for the day you're going to dump that cup down the drain. Everyone says they aren't contributing much, which per person they are not, but these things add up and then you end up where we are now.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/27 02:02:31


Post by: Yodhrin


Yup. Worrying about microbeads in texture paint is perhaps one of the finest examples of that tendency people have to get really concerned about the environment only in cases where doing so doesn't actually inconvenience them that much.

Plastic microparticles in the ocean entering the food chain has been a concern since the 80's, if you're only starting to give a hoot about it now because of the cosmetics microbead ban then you've probably been happily contributing to the problem for years at levels that make folk washing their face with gimmicky plastic-laced goop seem pretty irrelevant by comparison, nevermind the tiny amount that will enter the water via these new paints.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/27 02:08:36


Post by: Davor


Prometheum5 wrote:
 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
any of us worrying about microbeads better not sand, scrape or file plastic minis as we'll be creating a bunch of them when we do

the amount we are going to release via texture basing paint is going to be small by comparision


Sorry, but plastic dust/shavings are not the same thing as microbeads. Not that they aren't also harmful/hazardous when introduced as waste, but the issue with microbeads has to do with the fact that they are typically included in things that get washed down the drain, like soap or paint. When you wash out your brush in your water cup with some texture paint on there, it might not have a lot of texture beads left, but it's still some, and when you're done painting for the day you're going to dump that cup down the drain. Everyone says they aren't contributing much, which per person they are not, but these things add up and then you end up where we are now.


And to that I say using the internet right now is using up hydro. You are contributing much more surfing the net than just washing your brush. Now you are buying plastic crack. You are even contributing even more pollution now because trucks, boats, airplanes using up petro/gasoline causing more pollution for those products to travel.

And you are worried about little beads? So if we stop the beads, are we going to stop buying plastic crack? Stop using the internet and hydro and driving and what ever else? I just find it funny some people are making an issue of these small beads but are doing a lot more worse buy doing other things like protesting the use of these beads on this very forum.

Reminds me of the movie Armageddon. The protesters renting out a boat that spews out so much petro/oil out and doing more harm while they are protesting.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/27 02:23:39


Post by: Ghaz


Another factor is the size of the microbeads. Those used in the Texture paints are going to be much larger than those used in the hygiene products which are causing the problems, with the larger microbeads less likely to slip through the filtration systems at the sewage treatment plants.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/27 15:50:43


Post by: tirnaog


Any other news bitz on the WD Oct issue?


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/28 19:30:16


Post by: tirnaog


Anyone in the US gotten the Oct issue yet?


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/28 21:58:22


Post by: mdauben


Chikout wrote:
 Motograter wrote:
 Gen.Steiner wrote:
A 4x4 Cityfight battlemat would be great for Necromunda actually...


I'd agree if it wasn't £50

It comes with some ruins apparently.

That would be surprising. Other makers are selling 4x4 mousepad mats for 40-45£ with no extras. That would be a significant deal of GW is selling one for 50£ with ruins (assuming they are plastic and not cardboard).


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/28 22:14:43


Post by: Warhams-77


Got the new issue today. It's good. No pics of the mat though. The new format 40k battle report is very very nice. So is the Chapter Approved-like GSC article.

It could contain more rules for my taste though. There is only one rules expansion, the 40k mission 'The Hunter, Hunted', which the battle report is based on, 2 pages of rules.

It seems to allow for some interesting Hive-based fights and comes with special rules like 'Shooting from above' which gives re-roll of 1s (to hit) if the shooter is at least 3" higher - and the target will get -1 to its cover save.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Beardyhammer's review is online

http://www.ozdestro.com/blog/white-dwarf-monthly-oct-2016-another-cracking-issue

Another one from DiceAndBrush

http://diceandbrush.blogspot.de/2016/09/review-white-dwarf-october-2016.html


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/29 01:00:07


Post by: Pariah-Miniatures


Was there a free prize included? I recall there being "freebies" in the first 4 magazines, and then 'bonus' for subscriptions place prior to a certain date.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/29 01:21:43


Post by: Nicky J


Pariah-Miniatures wrote:
Was there a free prize included? I recall there being "freebies" in the first 4 magazines, and then 'bonus' for subscriptions place prior to a certain date.

preview issue of the forthcoming comic:



First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/29 01:31:48


Post by: Pariah-Miniatures


So garbage.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/29 01:49:58


Post by: Monkeysloth


 Azreal13 wrote:
 Mymearan wrote:
Isn't the reason microbeads are banned because they pollute the environment? You wouldn't flush this down the drain so I don't see it as a problem.


What about the water you used to rinse the brush in (the fact that it can be used with a brush is listed as a plus.)

It's not going to be a lot, but I dare say each use of toothpaste with microbeads isn't a lot individually either.

I won't be using it, mostly because I have about a gajillion different basing options already, but the microbeads would give me pause as well.


The microbeads that are banned are only of a certain size too. Basically the stuff in skin care and other products that are too small to get caught by city filtration systems. The ones in the paint image linked on the other page look large enough they'd never enter into the water supply.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/29 09:06:41


Post by: Ragnar69


I like the comic and seriously consider buying it. The art is nice.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/29 09:34:17


Post by: tneva82


Not sure is this really correct thread but maybe somebody knows answers:

a) is this available only in specific gaming stores or is it more widely available?
b) what requirements it HAS for android app? Says android 4.1 but my 6.0.1 can't install it. What other requirements white dwarf app has?

Unlike september october looks to have enough content I might find interesting so am considering buying one. But obviously I need to be able to buy it. Don't have miniature store nearby, not paying postage fees for sake of one magazine and app seems to be not usable with my current equipment(weird that galaxy s6 is insufficient but there you go...)


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/29 10:47:09


Post by: Panic


Yeah,
Micro beads are tiny tiny bits of plastic used in face scrubs and toothpastes to give them a rough texture to scrub.

All this plastic goes down the drain and into the sea, tons of it every day! these tiny beads are now found in lots of fish bodies...

The UK is making it illegal in products you wash down the drain, because other non plastic grit options are available.

But texture paint is going on miniature bases and not down the drain it should be ok.

Panic...


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/29 11:08:52


Post by: notprop


Indeed, it's all a load of micro-bollox really; at least where the GW paints are concerned.

I liked the new WD this month, the comic was nice but I won't be getting the full thing (not after the recent Deathwatch Graphic novel; that was pants).

Jes article, good.
Tale of 4 wargamers continues.
Genestealer Cult battle report looks nice but not read it yet.
Golden Demon stuff has some nice pictures.
GEnestealer release is quite well covered.

Still happy with the Sub.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/29 12:08:29


Post by: Ragnar69


tneva82 wrote:
Not sure is this really correct thread but maybe somebody knows answers:

a) is this available only in specific gaming stores or is it more widely available?
b) what requirements it HAS for android app? Says android 4.1 but my 6.0.1 can't install it. What other requirements white dwarf app has?

Unlike september october looks to have enough content I might find interesting so am considering buying one. But obviously I need to be able to buy it. Don't have miniature store nearby, not paying postage fees for sake of one magazine and app seems to be not usable with my current equipment(weird that galaxy s6 is insufficient but there you go...)


a) I don't know if you get in everywhere, but the bigger newsagents should carry it. I have seen last months issue in a newsagent in Vienna airport and I heard is was sold in WHSmith as well.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/29 13:14:27


Post by: Davor


Ragnar69 wrote:I like the comic and seriously consider buying it. The art is nice.


I disagree. I don't like it at all. The cover is horrible.

Panic wrote:Yeah,
Micro beads are tiny tiny bits of plastic used in face scrubs and toothpastes to give them a rough texture to scrub.

All this plastic goes down the drain and into the sea, tons of it every day! these tiny beads are now found in lots of fish bodies...

The UK is making it illegal in products you wash down the drain, because other non plastic grit options are available.

But texture paint is going on miniature bases and not down the drain it should be ok.

Panic...


Well technically some of it is going down the drain. When you are cleaning the brushes. But still not as much as other products like health care or beauty products that was said before. It's not 100% not going down the drain but still some of it will be going down the drain. I guess what is acceptable going down the drain.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/29 13:28:48


Post by: Ragnar69


Davor wrote:
Ragnar69 wrote:I like the comic and seriously consider buying it. The art is nice.


I disagree. I don't like it at all. The cover is horrible.


Yeah, issue 0 cover is bad, but the inside is good. Issue 1 cover is good as well I think (not 100% sure which one it will be as they show several)


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/29 13:35:24


Post by: kronk


I don't care for that cover, but then, sometimes comics have dumb covers and are still a good read. There is a rule about not judging a comic by something, i dunno what, but I think my post covers it.

 Panic wrote:
Yeah,
Micro beads are tiny tiny bits of plastic used in face scrubs and toothpastes to give them a rough texture to scrub.

All this plastic goes down the drain and into the sea, tons of it every day! these tiny beads are now found in lots of fish bodies...

The UK is making it illegal in products you wash down the drain, because other non plastic grit options are available.

But texture paint is going on miniature bases and not down the drain it should be ok.

Panic...


Also, being much larger, they will probably get caught in the filtration of your local water treatment plant and not get into the rivers and streams like the cosmetic micro beads.

So, perhaps nothing to worry about? Move on?


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/29 14:03:13


Post by: Nah Man Pichu


Weird, has GW released a new product called "The Environment"? It seems to be taking up a lot of space on this hobby rumors thread.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/29 14:41:10


Post by: Davor


Ragnar69 wrote:
Davor wrote:
Ragnar69 wrote:I like the comic and seriously consider buying it. The art is nice.


I disagree. I don't like it at all. The cover is horrible.


Yeah, issue 0 cover is bad, but the inside is good. Issue 1 cover is good as well I think (not 100% sure which one it will be as they show several)


Maybe I will give it a shot then. Been ages since I read a comic. I think I quit in the early or mid 90s when I stopped collecting then.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/29 16:32:09


Post by: Mymearan


 Panic wrote:
Yeah,
Micro beads are tiny tiny bits of plastic used in face scrubs and toothpastes to give them a rough texture to scrub.

All this plastic goes down the drain and into the sea, tons of it every day! these tiny beads are now found in lots of fish bodies...

The UK is making it illegal in products you wash down the drain, because other non plastic grit options are available.

But texture paint is going on miniature bases and not down the drain it should be ok.

Panic...


Those tiny beads that are in hygiene products do, but these are probably bigger.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/29 20:36:47


Post by: Platuan4th


Ragnar69 wrote:
Davor wrote:
Ragnar69 wrote:I like the comic and seriously consider buying it. The art is nice.


I disagree. I don't like it at all. The cover is horrible.


Yeah, issue 0 cover is bad, but the inside is good. Issue 1 cover is good as well I think (not 100% sure which one it will be as they show several)


It'll be all of them. This isn't a new thing, most comics these days have4 variants: 2 retail covers, a retailer incentive cover, and a subscription cover.

The new Power Rangers comic had 7 cover variants alone for issue #1.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/30 00:29:21


Post by: privateer4hire


Deleted. Saw contents summary in another thread.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/30 10:38:01


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First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/30 10:44:24


Post by: Chikout


Is this the first time that a release from Gw proper has not been covered in a white dwarf. There is no mention of the mat or the space marine bundle.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/30 11:21:31


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


WD is not going to be previewing everything now, at least some of it is going to be stuff that came out in the previous month, so I bet we'll see it in the November issue


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/30 12:52:43


Post by: Gen.Steiner


Disappointed by the map, but the White Dwarf looks like it'll be good. Picking my copy up shortly!


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/30 13:24:14


Post by: Mymearan


It's a cloth mat? Else why would you need to iron it?


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/30 13:28:59


Post by: Vorian


Are the ironing additional features on to the map?

The box top right looks like it doesn't have any buildings roads?


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/30 15:26:39


Post by: Ian Sturrock


alphaecho wrote:


I think most hobby magazines are cyclic in nature to reflect new blood joining.

I remember comments being made previously that if someone start seeing the same kind of articles in WD or other hobby magazine, they may not need the mag anymore.


My now ex-wife used to subscribe to Gardener's World magazine. Each month it would give seasonally appropriate tips "Now is the time to be planting your lettuces", etc. I always wondered why she would ever need more than 12 issues!


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/09/30 22:18:57


Post by: Gen.Steiner


Well, I got my copy today. I liked it. Lots of re-readability and some lovely pictures.

Terrible and egregious error though - they labelled an Arvus Lighter as an Aquila Lander! FOOLS!


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/10/01 01:09:03


Post by: Chopxsticks


Is it expected that if you sub to the Magazine you get it on or before release? Or is that just if your lucky? Still no magazine, US resident...


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/10/01 01:22:03


Post by: Chikout


Chopxsticks wrote:
Is it expected that if you sub to the Magazine you get it on or before release? Or is that just if your lucky? Still no magazine, US resident...

Unfortunately it rather depends on your local postal service. They send them out early. I live in Japan and I have got both of mine on the Thursday.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/10/01 01:24:10


Post by: Azreal13


Got my first one several days early, still waiting for this one.

Our PO is generally pretty reliable, so I'm guessing there's a certain degree of variation on when they're sent.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/10/01 01:53:32


Post by: Dr_Keenbean


I live in the US and received mine today. I hope that becomes the standard. Obviously I would want it even earlier but so long as I get it before it hits the shelves at my local GW I will be appeased.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/10/01 07:29:36


Post by: Knockagh


 Gen.Steiner wrote:
Well, I got my copy today. I liked it. Lots of re-readability and some lovely pictures.

Terrible and egregious error though - they labelled an Arvus Lighter as an Aquila Lander! FOOLS!


I noticed this, school boy error! Although it has rocket launcher which the lighter version doesn't have, maybe they are making a distinction, although I doubt it! Loving the new WD though, super Mag


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/10/01 09:49:55


Post by: Binabik15


Mine arrived at my parent's house a few days ago. Germany. Doesn't help the fact that I not living there anymore, but I have to move soon and don't know if you can change addresses, so i thought better safe than sorry At least my 4 and 6 y/o nephews who suddenly took an interest in my minis this summer will be able toenjoy it at the family meet-up tomorrow.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/10/01 09:54:41


Post by: Gen.Steiner


 Knockagh wrote:
 Gen.Steiner wrote:
Well, I got my copy today. I liked it. Lots of re-readability and some lovely pictures.

Terrible and egregious error though - they labelled an Arvus Lighter as an Aquila Lander! FOOLS!


I noticed this, school boy error! Although it has rocket launcher which the lighter version doesn't have, maybe they are making a distinction, although I doubt it! Loving the new WD though, super Mag


It's definitely better than the weeklies. Not a patch on some of the earlier issues during 4th/6th 40K/WFB, but hey.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/10/01 14:41:44


Post by: Risible


Is there anywhere in the U.S. to order a copy of White Dwarf so that I don't have to pay exorbitant shipping? If I order from GW it's a $9 magazine with $10 shipping (scandalous.)


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/10/01 17:59:54


Post by: willb2064


 Dr_Keenbean wrote:
I live in the US and received mine today. I hope that becomes the standard. Obviously I would want it even earlier but so long as I get it before it hits the shelves at my local GW I will be appeased.


I have yet to receive mine..


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/10/01 22:20:16


Post by: SKR.HH


First one was delivered delayed (which earne me an extra month to my subscription (jipeeh)) and was delivered from UK. Second one was delivered now from Netherlands... Strange.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/10/02 22:09:08


Post by: Ragnar69


same here. It also had a different packaging, Paperbag with bubblefoil Lining instead of plastic bag

edit: also germany, ignore the flag


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/10/03 02:58:42


Post by: Jehan-reznor


Bought it at the store last Sunday, my first monthly WD (because the one with the miniature was quickly sold out!) The issue is packed, great stuff!


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/10/09 02:20:13


Post by: Chopxsticks


Man.. I didnt get a September issue due to the poor wording on the site and GW didnt do anything to correct the mistake, now its Oct 8th and I have yet to receive my issue.. This experience is not sitting well with me.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/10/10 02:20:32


Post by: Lord of Deeds


Haven't received my October issue either. Per GW customer svc. it is only considered late if it doesn't arrive within 7 days of the retail release date. So called GW back Friday and they are now dispatching a copy that will arrive within 3 to 5 business days. Since it probably will not ship until Monday, I will be lucky to get it by Wednesday, Oct. 12.

So far that is two for two on issue being very late or not delivered as promised. I live in a major metro area and I have not had problems with periodical service or other mail at my current address until now. Of course they have now revised the website to say that there is basically no guarantee that the issue will arrive before or on release date.

So far the subscription service has been extremely disappointing. At this point, not sure the subscription savings is worth the inconvenience and aggravation of late delivery which so far has required I call GW each time about the late or non-delivery.



First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/10/10 02:36:27


Post by: Chikout


Thats a shame. It is difficult to tell how much of this is gw's fault especially as accounts are so variable. I got both my issues on the Thursday here in Japan. I wonder if the size of the magazine is an issue. It is larger an heavier than most. I have had to take delivery of both my issues personally.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/10/10 02:47:57


Post by: kronk


Hello. My name is Kronk. I am a subscriber and my copy has not arrived, yet. I have contacted GW. A replacement has been shipped, but I travel tomorrow. The earliest I get to fething read my copy is this fething Friday.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/10/11 22:03:01


Post by: vitki


Mine had not arrived by Friday (October 7th) so I contacted GW and they set up shipping for another one. Then my issue arrived on Saturday.
Very disappointed that I am getting my mags almost a week after they are out in stores, that is why I stopped subscribing a few years ago.
I had high hopes for the new system, but now two for two, they have been late or never arrived.


First tidbits from October white dwarf.  @ 2016/10/12 09:13:10


Post by: Azazelx


Yeah, my October issue hadn't arrived last week, so I rang them on Thursday. They said that there had been a lot of issues about subs sent to my state and something something public holidays (which was only the Friday it should have arrived), and asked me to call them after the mail on Friday and if I hadn't gotten it by then they would manually send one out. I called Monday and so hopefully it'll arrive by tomorrow.

Had no issues with the first issue arriving, or my previous subs, pre-weekly - so I hope this won't be a regular problem.