He looks like Remes Ventanus...

Not too keen on the head if I'm honest.

Is he wearing powernator armor?

That icon needs a lot of hot water.

 Azreal13 wrote:
That icon needs a lot of hot water.

I was considering turning it into some sort of spear

That has to be the worst sculpt to be involved in the HH FW series by a long shot.

Looks like the Geico caveman made space marine cosplay armor out of couch foam hahaha

feth, that's an ugly sculpt for Remus indeed.

Are we sure this is an official model and not a conversion?

I don't like the head; but a head swap is easy enough. Otherwise it's just about what I want for Remus, and I love the Roman style standard.

edit: that's pretty clearly a photograph of a sheet of paper, and the paper is bent all around. Take that into account.

I hope so, he looks more like a conversion than a model FW would do. Official art of him:

Might be useful as basing material for my Black Legion.

Oh good lord that's terrible!

It must be a conversion, mustn't it? Surely there is no way a human being with eyes looked at that and signed it off as good enough for production?

Good God, that head is disgusting.

I don't like it at all. The proportions are wonky as anything.

For those thinking it may be a conversion, I give you...



Who I'd assume must be from the same sculptor?

I'll just.. Put this nice Praetorian helmet on ya. Yeaah...

His head is so Tiny

Guys.... it is on a paper advertisement or something that is clearly being distorted. Save the hate for when we see it unblemished (unpainted!). Remember what happened with the Praetor Tribune? People hated it until they saw it unpainted!

I can't see the image (work blocked most likely, or just that fact that my work comp is a pos). Any chance you could post a link?

 Azreal13 wrote:
For those thinking it may be a conversion, I give you...



Who I'd assume must be from the same sculptor?

I love this model...

Except that "I'm viciously pooping" face.

What's up with his legs?

Looks like a mildly successfull truescale conversion.

Even though the paper is curved the proportions still look off, and that head sculpt? Not gonna go out of my way for this guy.

Horrendous. Looks like a bad knock-off.

Wow, the character series has been surprisingly bad

kenbian wrote:
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He looks like Remes Ventanus...

He looks like he's trying to do differential equations while taking a particularly strenuous dump.

Just, eww, no. Even setting aside whatever that is it has instead of a face, either the proportions are wierd or the armour is really badly done. That's just bad.

On a tangentially related note: Is he worth fielding in 30k? Trying to decide if it would be worth kitbashing one.

Triszin wrote:
Wow, the character series has been surprisingly bad

Clearly, Eidolon looks like gak. As do the rest... single swallow makes summer, not.

Sergeant Bulky Thighs

Bad photoshop is bad, the model has been superimposed onto a wd background, it's not a gw model.

Looks like a monkey...maybe the Ultras are experimenting with sending chimps into space?

EDIT: It just dawned on me...this is some kind of masterful joke by the Eldar - it's a MON-KEIGH!

What's up with the 15+ bit on the picture could it be a promo figure with a computer game ?
Some of them have been shoddy in the past .

If its PhotoShop then they have taken the trouble to print it out onto glossy paper .

But yeah that could be one of the worst marines I've seen

Funny enough, Forge World blisters come with a 15+ rating.

edit.

All forgeworld models say 15+. I think it's for difficulty

That and resin isn't exactly healthy.

NivlacSupreme wrote:
All forgeworld models say 15+. I think it's for difficulty

It's also for the carcinogenic substance more dangerous than plastic.

 Formosa wrote:
Bad photoshop is bad, the model has been superimposed onto a wd background, it's not a gw model.

1. The model is warped the same as the background, so if it's photoshop it's been photoshopped on and printed out on glossy paper
2. Any time you see a model on a background in white dwarf they'll have used some sort of image editing software since... they've had to put two images together to get that layout

I'm holding out hope it's a fan job too but I'm pretty alarmed! I was looking forward to a decent Ventanus model.

Fake!
HH characters always stand on ridiculously giant piles of rubble, not a brick. It's just not possible for them to be done in this style.

rtb02 wrote:

NivlacSupreme wrote:
All forgeworld models say 15+. I think it's for difficulty

It's also for the carcinogenic substance more dangerous than plastic.

Cured resin is no more harmful than any other fine particulate.

I'm really looking forward to seeing this when it's not on a horrendously warped piece of paper so we can see what the dude actually looks like.

It's not warped paper that makes that sculpt look terrible. It's a terrible sculpt. That is one fugly toy soldier.

Maybe it is just the angle, but jeez this guy has major Thunder thighs and calves. His torso is also way out of scale with his limbs.

Absolutely terrible. The exclusive Centurion's problems were solved simply by giving him a helmet(I wish I had that model, BTW). This new sculpt can't be saved short of throwing it in the trash.

Have to assume that's just a distortion of the picture due to the warping of the paper.

There's no chance FW would release such a laughably bad sculpt. GW's done some laughably stupid models. Wolf Sleigh comes to mind. But it was a well-sculpted, laughably stupid model.

thunder thighs + what is wrong with his face? seriously FW needs to stop trying to make things super 'real'.

Looks like Terminator legs on a Power Armor body.

I think you guys are all forgetting the World Eaters Rampagers. This fella is a supermodel in comparison.

I suppose it's all subjective, but they aren't even close to this new dude on the ugly scale.

The rampagers only problems are their heads.

This guy's proportions are all messed up, which is a lot worse.

 Azreal13 wrote:

rtb02 wrote:

NivlacSupreme wrote:
All forgeworld models say 15+. I think it's for difficulty

It's also for the carcinogenic substance more dangerous than plastic.

Cured resin is no more harmful than any other fine particulate.

It is when you start cutting it

It looks like a Warmachine model. Yes, it's that bad.

NivlacSupreme wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

rtb02 wrote:

NivlacSupreme wrote:
All forgeworld models say 15+. I think it's for difficulty

It's also for the carcinogenic substance more dangerous than plastic.

Cured resin is no more harmful than any other fine particulate.

It is when you start cutting it

Sawing and sanding. Not cutting.

 Lockark wrote:

NivlacSupreme wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

rtb02 wrote:

NivlacSupreme wrote:
All forgeworld models say 15+. I think it's for difficulty

It's also for the carcinogenic substance more dangerous than plastic.

Cured resin is no more harmful than any other fine particulate.

It is when you start cutting it

Sawing and sanding. Not cutting.

I was talking about sawing. I should have been clearer

30K childbearing hips. I like it.

Rampagers are fine. You can always put MK2 Proto-Berzerker heads and they will look awesome. This...monstrosity, on the other hand...Wow, just wow Though I will try to stay optimistic and think it will look better once proper pictures are taken.

NivlacSupreme wrote:
All forgeworld models say 15+. I think it's for difficulty

The 15+ label is to avoid a lot of the enhanced safety requirements due to being toys. I think most of the GW stuff had similar at some point.

You'd never be able to release a resin toy, for instance, because of the composition.

kenbian wrote:

This is the worst Forge World model I've ever seen.

Whoever sculpted this is bad and they should feel bad.

The proportions are bad, but some space marines should be really ugly. It's not like they choose the handsome neophytes. Or maybe the Ultramarines do.

I will agree it doesn't look good but the way the paper is folded is really messing with the proportions.

After looking at the model a few times, the face really makes me think 'Calas Typhons derpy cousin' more than anything else

 Azreal13 wrote:
For those thinking it may be a conversion, I give you...



Who I'd assume must be from the same sculptor?

At least the above model is a great likeness....

Even with bent paper, that model looks terrible. Shoulders and chest and torso and legs are so disproportionate.. the standard is nice, though.


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Besides, the Trollface head would fit a Nurgle/Death Guard figure just fine.

It might not be FW's prettiest model (if it isn't fan made etc.) but people saying that it's proportions are off (too big thighs and torso etc.) need to look at the normal Space Marine miniatures because I think that it's probably the first GW miniature where it looks like the marine (a well over 2 meters tall lump of muscle) could actually fit inside his armour. That's why I'm sceptical it's an actual new release.

I don't like it.

 Azreal13 wrote:
For those thinking it may be a conversion, I give you...



Who I'd assume must be from the same sculptor?

I didn't know they made a mini of the executioner from 300!

That guy is suppose to look messed up, this new one has no excuse.

I heard the "ugly" guy (who I like) that we got earlier was a test sculpt done by someone to prove themselves and learn the FW style after just joining their staff... Its a love it or leave it model... this new guy however looks like a piece done for a similar reason, something someone with less experience sculpted.

 Brother SRM wrote:
I'm really looking forward to seeing this when it's not on a horrendously warped piece of paper so we can see what the dude actually looks like.

+1

The paper is bent (intentionally it seems). Guys, look in a distorting mirror and see how pretty you are.

I have a feeling that this Facebook video teaser has something to do with the miniature...

That model is just terrible. The proportions are so off that it looks like a child's head coming out of the armor. The fact that the banner is so warped just adds to the terrible, rushed feel of the miniature.

I'd be tempted to get it to convert the banner to show the Ultramarines conquered Northern Ireland;

You do realize that the banner is not warped, the pamphlet with the picture of the model wasn't laid flat when the picture was taken.

 BrookM wrote:
I hope so, he looks more like a conversion than a model FW would do. Official art of him:

TY Brook, that is my Beloved Remus Ventanus...the Capt of the "Troublesome Fourth", One of the few interesting charactors in the Ultrablingers, this is who Uriel Ventris Preys to as his 'secret BFF forever and spirtial liege" not that other dude in statsis....that FW model ( if it is one) looks horrible....yes FW you should feel bad for releasing this horrible horrible abomination and asking money for it. A rare swing and a miss from FW but still....

Feel bad FW...FEEL BAD!

Look carefully at the left side of this image. It's folded in two different directions, an 'S' shape, really distorting the image.

I will need to see the image laid out flat before a judgement call.

kenbian wrote:


He looks like Remes Ventanus...

Not. Good. Yikes.

Slap a helmet head on him and he's fine. Though I won't be buying it as he's 13th Legion, and I play The Honoured First .

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Slap a helmet head on him and he's fine. Though I won't be buying it as he's 13th Legion, and I play The Honoured First .

True dat. I'll defile him enough to make him part of my 14th. It's only one legion away, anyway, right?

The 'the standard is warped' is a meme right?

We realise the reason it's warped is the picture on the paper right?

It hardly qualifies as a meme, but yes.

 AegisGrimm wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
For those thinking it may be a conversion, I give you...



Who I'd assume must be from the same sculptor?

I didn't know they made a mini of the executioner from 300!

I was thinking "give him a small mod to the face and add a cane - viola : Maloghurst "

It's possible the bend in the flyer, because of how it's being held, is contributing to the "tiny head" effect.

Still not a good looking mini, but need more photos.

I am a little confused by all this. The forgeworld Facebook page posted a video about October 22nd being ultramarine related. The big release from GW this month is prospero which is space wolves. The next big forgeworld release is also about prospero.
So what have ultramarine a got to do with anything?Is this just a random rubbish model or is it promoting something?
The only thing I can think of is forgeworld finally being available in GW stores.

Burning of prospero in november not octuber

This was just posted on my local GW's Facebook page, so there should be better pics floating around the internet soon enough.

EDIT: Other semi-local GW store just uploaded a picture of the full poster with model.

Feth, that's a shame. I was really hoping it was a fan piece. I was looking forward to a decent Ventanus model. That is just appalling.

Since it's a limited edition model I doubt it'll actually be Ventanus, especially since the model looks nothing like the artwork with the head and shoulder pads it has.

 AegisGrimm wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
For those thinking it may be a conversion, I give you...



Who I'd assume must be from the same sculptor?

I didn't know they made a mini of the executioner from 300!

You , sir, just earned yourself an exalt! It's like some unholy mix between that executioner and beavis from beavis and butt head.

Why are forgeworld's limited edition models always so rubbish? I think the only one I liked was the one who was summoning a Deamon.

 Roknar wrote:

 AegisGrimm wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
For those thinking it may be a conversion, I give you...



Who I'd assume must be from the same sculptor?

I didn't know they made a mini of the executioner from 300!

You , sir, just earned yourself an exalt! It's like some unholy mix between that executioner and beavis from beavis and butt head.

Personally I believe the sculptor was watching Doctor Who before he sculpted what is obviously a Sontaran.

Doesn't even remotely look like ventanus, hopefully its just a "standard" bearer, not a named character

Better, but still ugly af: the leg position, the birth-giving waist, the monkey face, cartoonish shoulder pad studs. I'm almost glad that the first official GW is roughly 500 km away, so I won't be tempted to buy it, just to resell it later on ebay or trade it for any of the other, better looking ltd models.

I generally don't have anything negative to say about Forge World's characters but I'm struggling here. The banner still seems to have a slight curve in it and, maybe it's me but I those calves look a little thick compared to the rest of the model. Yep, I think I'll be taking a pass on this one.

kenbian wrote:


He looks like Remes Ventanus...

Please apply the holy sigmarite iron

That model...is fugly.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Roknar wrote:

 AegisGrimm wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
For those thinking it may be a conversion, I give you...



Who I'd assume must be from the same sculptor?

I didn't know they made a mini of the executioner from 300!

You , sir, just earned yourself an exalt! It's like some unholy mix between that executioner and beavis from beavis and butt head.

Personally I believe the sculptor was watching Doctor Who before he sculpted what is obviously a Sontaran.

Actually I like that model. I still wonder if the head comes off though...

Having now seen the image lain flat... the head bothers me a great deal less than the legs, which are weirdly proportioned.

Swing and a miss imo.

Yeah the proportions are still pretty off. I did think that a warped flyer can only have caused so much of it.

Not sure why the Ventanus rumours even started. Looks nothing like the artwork, the hair is the wrong colour as he's blond like Guilliman and why would the leader of the 4th also be their standard bearer. Just baffles me how these things snowball.

Like others have said though, I'll reserve judgement until I see the unpainted resin

He looks like former England and Arsenal defender Martin Keown.

It's a hideous model.

It's the kind of model that people defending Mantic's often strange proportions will throw back at the GW White Knights in arguments for years to come...

I guess there's a reason why he's limited edition

 Nuclear Mekanik wrote:
I guess there's a reason why he's limited edition

Yes, some of the limited editions have been beautiful, the FW event only stuff for example, others, especially this one, feel like rejected works that then someone said 'well, we should get some use out of it somehow'.

 Bull0 wrote:
Feth, that's a shame. I was really hoping it was a fan piece. I was looking forward to a decent Ventanus model. That is just appalling.

Not sure that is Ventanus. I mean... wouldn't the banner say "Calth" on there! Plus, no spiked shoulder-pad and totally different face.

I think its a generic standard bearer.

Looks like a test or interview sculpt thrown out as a limited edition. Not a good effort.

B- Forgeworld. See me after school

 General Kroll wrote:
He looks like former England and Arsenal defender Martin Keown.

It's a hideous model.

More like a cross between Tony Adams & Rooney to me!

He did carry the banner almost throughout one of the HH Novels.
Thats not quite how i imagined him to look, mind you lol.

 bubber wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:
He looks like former England and Arsenal defender Martin Keown.

It's a hideous model.

More like a cross between Tony Adams & Rooney to me!

All faces only a mother could love!

 General Kroll wrote:

 bubber wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:
He looks like former England and Arsenal defender Martin Keown.

It's a hideous model.

More like a cross between Tony Adams & Rooney to me!

All faces only a mother could love!

Maybe a Word Bearer punched him in the face....with a power fist...multiple times....without a helmet on...

If someone on here who hates him wants to pick one up for me (pref in the US) let me know and I'll take it off your hands.

From the Games Workshop Northern Heights Plaza FB page:

That face is absolutely hilarious How could that sculpt pass through a production approval process that had to have involved at least 2-3 people?!

I can't believe that thing is real...

drop a bottle into his left hand, and title it 'The Day after the end of the Heracy'

he looks hungover and holding himself up with that standard

I hope they get some better pictures of it because as is it'still pretty damn bad!

from salisbury store



from 4chan

I usually try to get all the limited models... but god this thing makes me want to vomit.

Strike 1: ultramarine molded symbols
Strike 2: ...that....face
Strike 3: Massive diabetic legs, fat hips, beer gut, tiny shoulders

I think this guy needs to go to a gym. Then he'd fit in smaller armor from his gut down, and maybe he'd fill out the shoulders better. Maybe he'd take come pride and groom his face as well.

Good lord forgeworld... you and GW are better than this!! There is no comparison between this and the recent AOS/GW plastics that have been far superior to any other gaming system's plastic kits recently. Five steps forward and twenty back.

One bad mini and it is the apocalypse for you? Man, get over yourself.

I don't mind the face. But the proportions do seem weird.

The shoulder pads seem flattened. The torso seems too small. I really wonder if it isn't just messed up photoshopping going on here?

I'll reserve judgement until I see someone actually build one of these guys.

Lol, that's an amusing looking mini.

Maybe GW staff got tired of being teased for having "inferior" models, so they made FW release the derpiest mis-sculpt they could find that was completed.

....or this is being released so GW can be all "see, it sold horribly! This is why we don't stock FW models in GW stores."

 455_PWR wrote:
I usually try to get all the limited models... but god this thing makes me want to vomit.

Strike 1: ultramarine molded symbols.

Not a problem

It's actually not as disproportionate in person. Pretty bad photography imo.

Huh. That does look better. But it still looks like an above-average 3rd party

The pads still seem weird.

Is there a way to find out who sculpt it?

His torso is still really off. It is shaped like a barrel.

I think someone at FW went: "We can't sell this... thing. Give it to GW, they'll sell it for a premium price."

It's such an awful sculpt. Somehow about all of them are already pre-ordered at the GW I go to.

Bad miniature is bad and should feel bad.

DeffDred wrote:

kenbian wrote:

This is the worst Forge World model I've ever seen.

Whoever sculpted this is bad and they should feel bad.

JohnnyHell wrote:Bad miniature is bad and should feel bad.

I ninja'd you days ago!

Do you suggest that the miniature sculpted itself?

It's probably the only thing that will take credit for doing so...

I think the question to be asked is not who sculpted it, but who took the picture.

It’s still not the best looking mini out there. But it looks like the photographer took his shot from the worst possible angle. The legs are not as bad as they looked from the pic.

Still needs a headswap, but that’s an easy fix.

looks much better in the bare resin pics...
i'll definitely get one for a conversion...
should make a good base model for a custom World Eaters Marine

cheers
jah

I love how the painter decided to give him a five o'clock shadow. Like he didn't already look enough like a drunken lout from the just the sculpt.

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
I love how the painter decided to give him a five o'clock shadow. Like he didn't already look enough like a drunken lout from the just the sculpt.

He was recruited from an obscure agriworld called Alabama.

Hmn, the sculpting isn't very good, but that's par the course.

I like him. Sort of. For what it is.

...

Again, the actual details, etc aren't amazing, a bit shallow in paces (those arms), though not terrible. What I like however is, despite being god awful, an attempt has been made to give the give a semblance of a waste. His shoulders are still too far apart and head's massive, but what'ya gonna do?

...What?

That does look better. They seem to have picked the absolute worst angle to photograph it from. It really contributed to foreshortening his legs and making him look really chunky... but I think his head is too small - it makes everything look disproportionately bloated.

My working tinfoil theory now is that it's a Ventanus sculpt that didn't pass muster but is being sold anyway as a LE "banner bearer" instead. He shares a bunch of visual details with Ventanus in the FW HH book (the grille and tubes on the chest are the same, and the artwork has a spiked shoulder pad - the same spikes are on this mini's leg). I mean, he's holding the 4th company banner.

It would go some way to explain the crap head too. Rush job.

 Bull0 wrote:
My working tinfoil theory now is that it's a Ventanus sculpt that didn't pass muster but is being sold anyway as a LE "banner bearer" instead. He shares a bunch of visual details with Ventanus in the FW HH book (the grille and tubes on the chest are the same, and the artwork has a spiked shoulder pad - the same spikes are on this mini's leg). I mean, he's holding the 4th company banner.

It would go some way to explain the crap head too. Rush job.

That isn't exactly a conspiracy theory as that's exactly what happened with the Imperial Fist Champion in their command pack. That was meant to be Sigismund.

Oh, OK. There I was thinking I was both Mulder and Scully. Don't need the tinfoil after all.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
I love how the painter decided to give him a five o'clock shadow. Like he didn't already look enough like a drunken lout from the just the sculpt.

He was recruited from an obscure agriworld called Alabama.

bwahaha! have an exalt

Actually caved in a bought one late in the day. Definitely convertible. The wacky workshop I was in had nearly a full rack of em still available. Not sure how that measures up compared to the previous limited forge world sculpt

Kijamon wrote:

 Bull0 wrote:
My working tinfoil theory now is that it's a Ventanus sculpt that didn't pass muster but is being sold anyway as a LE "banner bearer" instead. He shares a bunch of visual details with Ventanus in the FW HH book (the grille and tubes on the chest are the same, and the artwork has a spiked shoulder pad - the same spikes are on this mini's leg). I mean, he's holding the 4th company banner.

It would go some way to explain the crap head too. Rush job.

That isn't exactly a conspiracy theory as that's exactly what happened with the Imperial Fist Champion in their command pack. That was meant to be Sigismund.

Co-signed ... This was also my first idea after seeing this mini ....