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Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 11:36:12


Post by: JohnnyHell


With a cheer from anyone who missed out and a boo from eBay hoarder/scalpers, Space Hulk is resissued on Dec 3! £75 / EUR100 This is legitimately great news! (Source: WD in my hands)


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 11:36:40


Post by: Fenrir Kitsune


Glad I ebayed mine when I did. Made an utter fortune.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 11:39:50


Post by: JohnnyHell


Agggghhhh yes rules for all the different GeneCultists in DW:OK too...


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 11:49:25


Post by: angryboy2k


Ha! I've only just finished painting my 3rd edition models.
Please tell me there are no new board sections or anything in this release.
Also - do you know the prices for the Thousand Sons?


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 11:53:03


Post by: JohnnyHell


Magnus £80
Ahriman £25
Rubrics £30 x 10
Scarab Termies £35 x 5
Sorcerers £35 x 3
Tzaangors £27.50 x 10 - they have 'simple CCW' option so guessing AoS dual-kit
Codex Supplement £20
Dice £12.50
Paints £2.55 each x 2


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 11:58:17


Post by: angryboy2k


Thank you very much!


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:02:03


Post by: zedmeister


Inevitable really and welcomed...


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:04:12


Post by: Warhams-77


Really good that SH gets reissued. It should always be available imo. Thanks for all the WD infos, JohnnyHell Is there something more about the Imperial Agents and Traitor Legions books in WD?


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:06:44


Post by: Joyboozer


Too hell with all the new release stuff, let's ask the important question, is there yet another sigmarine display army?


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:12:53


Post by: jimraynor


 JohnnyHell wrote:
Magnus £80
Ahriman £25
Rubrics £30 x 10
Scarab Termies £35 x 5
Sorcerers £35 x 3
Tzaangors £27.50 x 10 - they have 'simple CCW' option so guessing AoS dual-kit
Codex Supplement £20
Dice £12.50
Paints £2.55 each x 2


Can you please tell use the prices in Euro too ?


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:13:23


Post by: JohnnyHell


Warhams-77 wrote:Really good that SH gets reissued. It should always be available imo. Thanks for all the WD infos, JohnnyHell Is there something more about the Imperial Agents and Traitor Legions books in WD?


Nope. We've already seen the text in the WD. Nothing new.

Joyboozer wrote:Too hell with all the new release stuff, let's ask the important question, is there yet another sigmarine display army?


Of course! Army of the Month, no less!



Automatically Appended Next Post:
jimraynor wrote:
 JohnnyHell wrote:
Magnus EUR105
Ahriman EUR32.50
Rubrics EUR40 x 10
Scarab Termies EUR45 x 5
Sorcerers EUR45 EUR45 x 3
Tzaangors EUR35 x 10 - they have 'simple CCW' option so guessing AoS dual-kit
Codex Supplement EUR25
Dice EUR16.50
Paints EUR3.30 each x 2


Can you please tell use the prices in Euro too ?


Voila.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:20:30


Post by: Warhams-77


Thanks for checking, Johnny

A pic via War of Sigmar




Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:21:43


Post by: Turgol


Anything new for AoS this month to be seen in WD? (New releases, tidbits, anything?)


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:22:07


Post by: Hanskrampf


Any word yet if this is the 2014 Space Hulk version or did they add something new?


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:23:07


Post by: SKR.HH


 JohnnyHell wrote:
Magnus EUR 105
Ahriman EUR 32.50
Rubrics EUR 40 x 10
Scarab Termies EUR 45 x 5
Sorcerers EUR 45 x 3
Tzaangors EUR 35 x 10 - they have 'simple CCW' option so guessing AoS dual-kit
Codex Supplement EUR 25
Dice EUR 16.50
Paints EUR 3.30 each x 2

Not that I think that the particular prices are surprising it will eventually limit what I get for myself (as I don't particularly collect chaos)... What a pity... Well, maybe there is a SC box in the future.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:24:49


Post by: Warhams-77


They are cheaper than expected, especially Magnus, who is Knight-sized


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:26:07


Post by: jimraynor


@JohnnyHell

Thanks


i hope there will be a Start Collecting Box for our *Dusty* Friends in the future...something like 1xSorcerers Set, 1x Rubrics and 1x Tzaangors


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:28:00


Post by: Chikout


Hot takes. Magnus is not as expensive as I feared. Ahriman is what I thought he would cost. All of the infantry kits are about £5 beyond reasonable.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:28:01


Post by: DanceOfSlaanesh


Yes! Was looking on ebay for over a month now for a good price. I am so happy!


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:28:39


Post by: JohnnyHell


Seems to be the 2014 SH as it shows the boarding torpedo tiles.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:28:59


Post by: Inquisitor Gideon


Any word of the new Hobbit supplement showing up in there?


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:31:02


Post by: JohnnyHell


 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Any word of the new Hobbit supplement showing up in there?


Image and promo text, but no price or date.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:32:30


Post by: angryboy2k


Which issue is this, by the way?
You say it includes Space Hulk rules, right?


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:32:49


Post by: Inquisitor Gideon


 JohnnyHell wrote:
 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Any word of the new Hobbit supplement showing up in there?


Image and promo text, but no price or date.


Sweet, this weekend as Adam Troke said. Nice.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:38:28


Post by: JohnnyHell


angryboy2k wrote:
Which issue is this, by the way?
You say it includes Space Hulk rules, right?


Nope. DW:OK rules for GeneCult. Latest December issue that just hit my doormat.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:40:14


Post by: Vertrucio


Also realize that this release nicely coincides with Space Hulk: Deathwing, so maybe GW has actually realized they can cross promote things.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:45:34


Post by: Sidstyler


Good news, really, since Space Hulk is fun and I thought it should have been a general release from the start...but I find it irksome that they originally advertised it as being strictly limited, saying that once the game was gone it was gone and you would never have a chance to get it again, and now they just reprint it whenever they feel like it. I have a really hard time forgiving blatant lies, especially ones that enable sleazy eBay scalping like this one did. Some people made as much as $300 for a box that originally sold for $99...lots of profit being made off of GW's work, that GW themselves never actually saw, because they were too focused on the short-term cash grab.

How much is it this time? They bumped the price up to $125 during the last printing, I'm expecting $150-165 this time. The smart thing to do would be to bump it back down to $99 like it originally was, but I doubt that will happen.

EDIT: Okay, now there's an image that wasn't there before. Looks like $125. Kinda disappointing, but at least it isn't even more expensive.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:48:02


Post by: JohnnyHell


Space Hulk is £75 EUR100


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:50:05


Post by: Bottle


Omg £75 is so tempting ㅜㅜ I hope this is a permanent stock item now!


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 12:56:25


Post by: Binabik15


 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Glad I ebayed mine when I did. Made an utter fortune.



I actually didn't ebay my set back in 2009 (preordered at GW DE and UK to increase my chance of getting a copy, both orders went through in the end) because I would've felt dirty to get the ~300€ they were going for BUT I would've felt stuoid letting it go for less, too The First Re-issue killed any real chance at profiteering, so I've kept one box shrink-wrapped in case I ever need more Termis or some poor soul still doesn't manage to get one (and maybe has some cool OOP stuff to trade).


On the 1k Sons, are those prices the same per box for the Gors as GSC boxes? I only know online prices for GW stuff, not RRP and I'm too lazy to look them up after devouring my lunch. At 35ish € for an import box I might get those three sorc dudes and turn them into Fantasy heroes with some creative converting. OR a very expensive bits purchase.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 13:11:26


Post by: angryboy2k


 JohnnyHell wrote:
angryboy2k wrote:
Which issue is this, by the way?
You say it includes Space Hulk rules, right?


Nope. DW:OK rules for GeneCult. Latest December issue that just hit my doormat.


Ah okay. I misread it as *Space Hulk* rules for the Genestealer cult [that came] in Deathwatch: Overkill.

Thanks again! You've helped me plan my next bit of spending!


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 13:21:09


Post by: Do_I_Not_Like_That


If anything sums up the ineptitude of GW these past years, it's this.

One of the best tabletop games of all time, beloved by the community, and by all accounts was flying off the shelves, such was its popularity.

Can you imagine Coca Cola pulling the plug on a successful product*, or any other half-decent company acting this way?

No, neither can I....

Space Hulk returns?

It should never have went away...

*by successful product, I mean something that makes a profit after wages and other material costs have been factored in, before somebody tries to get smart by saying that the company could be selling loads but operating at a loss


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 13:22:53


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 JohnnyHell wrote:
Magnus £80
Ahriman £25
Rubrics £30 x 10
Scarab Termies £35 x 5
Sorcerers £35 x 3
Tzaangors £27.50 x 10 - they have 'simple CCW' option so guessing AoS dual-kit
Codex Supplement £20
Dice £12.50
Paints £2.55 each x 2


Would it therefore be safe to say that:

Magnus AUD$200
Termies/Sorcs AUD$83
Rubrics AUD$70

[EDIT]: Never mind they're all more expensive than that. $220 for Mags, $98 for the Termies and $84 for the Rubrics. Way to continue fething over Australia, GW.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 13:28:38


Post by: JohnnyHell


AU$220, AU$98 and AU$84

I'm guessing this will be an unwelcome update. <ducks>


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 13:30:16


Post by: Chikout


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 JohnnyHell wrote:
Magnus £80
Ahriman £25
Rubrics £30 x 10
Scarab Termies £35 x 5
Sorcerers £35 x 3
Tzaangors £27.50 x 10 - they have 'simple CCW' option so guessing AoS dual-kit
Codex Supplement £20
Dice £12.50
Paints £2.55 each x 2


Would it therefore be safe to say that:

Magnus AUD$200
Termies/Sorcs AUD$83
Rubrics AUD$70

Ever the optimist!
Magnus $220
Termies $98 (same price as £35 Stormcast stuff)
Rubrics $84. (Same price as tau fire warriors)
To avoid consistent depression compare like for like prices.
The prices all come from the war of sigmar blog by the way.
Edit double ninjad. The point about avoiding depression still stands.
Living in Japan I am used to paying double for imports but it must suck if you live in oz or nz.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 13:33:07


Post by: prowla


Well, this is strange. SH returns, BB returns (both should have years ago), GSG appears and now there's a hint of love for Traitor Legions as well..

Now if there only would be a slight price deduction, it would be almost if GW is trying to do it right.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 13:34:21


Post by: Matt.Kingsley


And $77 AUD Tzaangors.

$77 for 2x5 monopose models. Just... wow.


On Topic: Good to see Space Hulk is getting another re-release, though.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 13:35:18


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 prowla wrote:
Well, this is strange. SH returns, BB returns (both should have years ago), GSG appears and now there's a hint of love for Traitor Legions as well..

Now if there only would be a slight price deduction, it would be almost if GW is trying to do it right.


Sadly we're 4 from 5, as GW has put stupid prices on these once again.

The Terminators are more expensive than any set of Termies they sell bar the ludicrously overpriced Cataphractii Terminators. These new Terminators are even more expensive than the bundle that comes with 5 Vanilla Termies and the Termy Captain model.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 13:39:13


Post by: Chikout


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 prowla wrote:
Well, this is strange. SH returns, BB returns (both should have years ago), GSG appears and now there's a hint of love for Traitor Legions as well..

Now if there only would be a slight price deduction, it would be almost if GW is trying to do it right.


Sadly we're 4 from 5, as GW has put stupid prices on these once again.

The Terminators are more expensive than any set of Termies they sell bar the ludicrously overpriced Cataphractii Terminators. These new Terminators are even more expensive than the bundle that comes with 5 Vanilla Termies and the Termy Captain model.

I'll say this again. Wait for the inevitable start collecting box. I agree that launch prices are ridiculous but there is a budget conscious option now unless you absolutely must have something on launch day.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 13:40:28


Post by: H.B.M.C.


I've been waiting for Star Collecting Daemons of Tzeentch since they first started doing those boxes.

Still waiting.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 13:44:02


Post by: beast_gts


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The Terminators are more expensive than any set of Termies they sell bar the ludicrously overpriced Cataphractii Terminators. These new Terminators are even more expensive than the bundle that comes with 5 Vanilla Termies and the Termy Captain model.


They're the same price as the Blood Angel and Deathwing Terminators.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 13:45:34


Post by: Matt.Kingsley


Not here in Australia, they're $23AUD more than those.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 13:53:53


Post by: Chikout


 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Not here in Australia, they're $23AUD more than those.

Or in Japan, in fact I think we are the king of terible prices here. It is a shame because it puts a major damper on an otherwise excellent release.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 13:54:30


Post by: jimraynor


@Matt.Kingsley

but that is not GWs fault.. It's still your gouverments fault with stupid import regularys for goods that are not produced in AU and an overall terrible customs system.

and No there is no conspiracy that GW hates AU and NZ.....


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 14:25:56


Post by: Panic


Yeah,
I wonder if the 2016 edition will have a new hat?
I mean mission?

Depressingly, I hope it does!

Panic...


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 14:46:35


Post by: Souleater


Any hints of the rumoured plastic Canoness?


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 14:55:53


Post by: JohnnyHell


Nope.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 15:11:59


Post by: UltraPrime


30k rules for Sisters of Silence?


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 15:23:30


Post by: Nostromodamus


How many Termies and 'Stealers are in there?


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 16:28:51


Post by: kronk


UltraPrime wrote:
30k rules for Sisters of Silence?


In HH Book 7, when it comes out.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 16:33:45


Post by: JohnnyHell


 Nostromodamus wrote:
How many Termies and 'Stealers are in there?


In Space Hulk? Contents lists have been up on the net for a couple of years, Google is your friend!


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 16:36:05


Post by: Zywus


jimraynor wrote:
@Matt.Kingsley

but that is not GWs fault.. It's still your gouverments fault with stupid import regularys for goods that are not produced in AU and an overall terrible customs system.

and No there is no conspiracy that GW hates AU and NZ.....

bs.
To quote myself from a thread on the subject: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/701487.page
 Zywus wrote:
So, if GW is "forced" to sell stuff for double the price in NZ; how come miniatures from every other UK based company can be bought and sold there for roughly the same price as in the UK?

GW doesn't "hate" AU and NZ. They just think they can get away with charging them more than they anyone else. (maybe they even succeed?, I don't know how they're numbers look in that region)


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 18:08:51


Post by: Lord Damocles


While Space Hulk coming back (again) is generally a good thing, it does rather lend weight to the sorts of arguments made by people who complained in 2014 about how GW's claim in 2009 that the game was limited release looked rather dishonest with the benefit of hindsight.
('But it's not technically the same because we added boarding torpedoes!' is a pretty weak defence).


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 18:13:27


Post by: mindrobber


Is Space Hulk now a permanent release? I hope so, maybe now they will release some expansion box sets like 1st edition and new races and different types of 'hulk'.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 18:47:08


Post by: DanceOfSlaanesh


http://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/11/21/space-hulk-returns-for-the-holidays/

There is some info here but im not sure if that means its just available for the holidays or more.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 18:55:24


Post by: decker_cky


 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
If anything sums up the ineptitude of GW these past years, it's this.

One of the best tabletop games of all time, beloved by the community, and by all accounts was flying off the shelves, such was its popularity.

Can you imagine Coca Cola pulling the plug on a successful product*, or any other half-decent company acting this way?

No, neither can I....

Space Hulk returns?

It should never have went away...

*by successful product, I mean something that makes a profit after wages and other material costs have been factored in, before somebody tries to get smart by saying that the company could be selling loads but operating at a loss


Is the bolded a joke? You do realize that Coca Cola pulled their signature product and replaced it with the beverage equivalent of Age of Sigmar at one point, right?


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 19:10:27


Post by: H.B.M.C.


jimraynor wrote:
@Matt.Kingsley

but that is not GWs fault.. It's still your gouverments fault with stupid import regularys for goods that are not produced in AU and an overall terrible customs system.

and No there is no conspiracy that GW hates AU and NZ.....


Yes, it's the government's fault that this one box is somehow more expensive than other similar items.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 20:24:44


Post by: Veteran Sergeant


 Sidstyler wrote:
Good news, really, since Space Hulk is fun and I thought it should have been a general release from the start...but I find it irksome that they originally advertised it as being strictly limited, saying that once the game was gone it was gone and you would never have a chance to get it again, and now they just reprint it whenever they feel like it. I have a really hard time forgiving blatant lies, especially ones that enable sleazy eBay scalping like this one did. Some people made as much as $300 for a box that originally sold for $99...lots of profit being made off of GW's work, that GW themselves never actually saw, because they were too focused on the short-term cash grab.


If, after three editions of the game, you thought Space Hulk was never ever going to be re-released again, I feel like the disappointment is a personal problem, and not "blatant lies" by Games Workshop. They never marketed it as a "Nevur Again Available!" They just said it was a limited run. You're confusing marketing puffery with some kind of devious deception. They ran a limited quantity, and gave no promise of future printings. And they didn't, for almost five years. It's like expecting that you can actually trade Pepsi points for a Harrier jet.

I do agree that Space Hulk should have never been a limited release though. But who knows what their printing and carrying costs were on it at the time. Old GW had a pretty bizarre market strategy at times.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 20:26:07


Post by: EnTyme


GW ends production on product that had been labeled as "Limited Release". Customers complain about GW ending production on successful product. GW begins second production on said product due to an obvious demand for said product. Customers complain that GW lied about the product being "Limited Release". GW ends second production run and the process starts anew.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 20:30:18


Post by: AncientSkarbrand


So...

Any tsons rules in that WD?


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 20:43:01


Post by: godardc


decker_cky wrote:
 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
If anything sums up the ineptitude of GW these past years, it's this.

One of the best tabletop games of all time, beloved by the community, and by all accounts was flying off the shelves, such was its popularity.

Can you imagine Coca Cola pulling the plug on a successful product*, or any other half-decent company acting this way?

No, neither can I....

Space Hulk returns?

It should never have went away...

*by successful product, I mean something that makes a profit after wages and other material costs have been factored in, before somebody tries to get smart by saying that the company could be selling loads but operating at a loss


Is the bolded a joke? You do realize that Coca Cola pulled their signature product and replaced it with the beverage equivalent of Age of Sigmar at one point, right?


What ? What did Coca do ?


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 20:56:27


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Never heard of New Coke?


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 21:02:25


Post by: prowla


 godardc wrote:

What ? What did Coca do ?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Coke


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 21:21:13


Post by: godardc


Thanks for the link, I had never heard about it. But I'm not even 25, so...


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 22:16:45


Post by: Bottle


Why are we talking about coke again? Lol

The real question is; is it back forever or just for Christmas? I really want it, and £75 is a great price at today's standards... but how long do I have to get it?


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 23:14:03


Post by: JohnnyHell


I'm sure it'll be back as long as the latest print run lasts... howbig that was, who knows?


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 23:22:25


Post by: feeder


$150? Ouch... guess I'll stick to bugging my friends to pull out their old copies again...


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 23:25:41


Post by: Lord Fishface


I wonder if it's too much to hope we might get updated rules for hybrids in Space Hulk someday soon?

I might even dare to dream of rules and missions using those new Thousand Sons terminators...


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/21 23:26:54


Post by: kryczek


Oh well then that's xmas sorted then.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/22 00:36:44


Post by: Dryaktylus


I own the 2009 version so I'm not interested (as I wasn't in 2014). A reasonable move from GW though.


decker_cky wrote:

Is the bolded a joke? You do realize that Coca Cola pulled their signature product and replaced it with the beverage equivalent of Age of Sigmar at one point, right?




From the article (slightly "changed"):

"Have you tried it?"
"Yes."
"Did you like it?"
"Yes, but I'll be damned if I'll let Games Workshop know that."



Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/22 01:42:01


Post by: H.B.M.C.


*pours copy of Space Hulk into a storm drain*


I just ordered the new tiles from the last ed of Space Hulk. No real reason to buy it again just for a new hat.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/22 01:58:35


Post by: eekamouse


Anyone have a list of the supported Genestealers in the new Overkill rules? Just curious what all I may be missing.

-edit-

It looks like this....

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Genestealer-Cults-Acolyte-and-Neophyte-Hybrids

plus this...

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/acolyte-iconward-2016


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/22 03:14:10


Post by: Frankenberry


Here's hoping I can score a copy before all of the ebay-scum appear and wipe out the stock.

My Blood Angels need their fancy-smancy mono-pose terminator brothers to truly be complete.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/22 03:21:09


Post by: Vain


 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
If anything sums up the ineptitude of GW these past years, it's this.

One of the best tabletop games of all time, beloved by the community, and by all accounts was flying off the shelves, such was its popularity.

Can you imagine Coca Cola pulling the plug on a successful product*, or any other half-decent company acting this way?

No, neither can I....

Space Hulk returns?

It should never have went away...

*by successful product, I mean something that makes a profit after wages and other material costs have been factored in, before somebody tries to get smart by saying that the company could be selling loads but operating at a loss


Regardless of the coke example, isn't this what MacDonalds do all the time with the Ribwich or whatever it is called. They have it available for a certain amount of time every year and then they stop it. Despite it making money.
By limiting the availability to certain time points they can get a reliable amount of product sold (due to fear of scarcity) and get a nice injection of profit, while not having to hold onto stock for long periods of time taking up space.
Makes sense to me. As a consumer I might not like that it doesn't pander specifically to my needs, but I can understand it easily enough.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/22 07:43:24


Post by: methebest


jimraynor wrote:
@Matt.Kingsley

but that is not GWs fault.. It's still your gouverments fault with stupid import regularys for goods that are not produced in AU and an overall terrible customs system.

and No there is no conspiracy that GW hates AU and NZ.....

Total taxes on gw's imports into New Zealand is 20%, and the totals taxes they need to pay for selling in the uk is also 20%, which they don't need to pay if they export the product.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/22 10:40:50


Post by: Do_I_Not_Like_That


Instead of replying to individual comments, I'm going for the general reply approach.

I run a small shop on ebay that buys and sells miniature wargaming products, but I still don't think I'm much of a business man, but even I've heard of things such as 'sales data' and 'market research.'

If GW release 1000 units of product X in November, and by December it's sold out, I'd like to think that lightbulb appears above somebody's head at GW HQ.

I'd also like to think that there would then be some iniative to replicate this success, say with another print run of 500 units as a minimum.

After all, they are looking at sales data? Right?

And even if they were unsure, this thing called market research, where they ask people? might help them out.

A normal company would do that, but what the hell would I know, I just buy and sell for a living


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/22 11:06:14


Post by: JohnnyHell


Moratorium releases are a tried and tested format for manufacturers to generate a big quick-win bump of sales and not being left sitting on stock. It's not the same as a store buying stock and restocking if it sells through.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/22 11:11:00


Post by: Azazelx


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
jimraynor wrote:
@Matt.Kingsley

but that is not GWs fault.. It's still your gouverments fault with stupid import regularys for goods that are not produced in AU and an overall terrible customs system.

and No there is no conspiracy that GW hates AU and NZ.....


Yes, it's the government's fault that this one box is somehow more expensive than other similar items.


Don't feed ignorant trolls. Throw 'em on ignore instead.

...and then import your figs.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 EnTyme wrote:
GW ends production on product that had been labeled as "Limited Release". Customers complain about GW ending production on successful product. GW begins second production on said product due to an obvious demand for said product. Customers complain that GW lied about the product being "Limited Release". GW ends second production run and the process starts anew.


There's always someone who wants to bitch about any given topic or decision. There's a lot of people here, after all. I've got 3 copies of SH, never planned to scalp them. Quite fething glad it's going back onto general sale so anyone can get hold of it. The game deserves it.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
methebest wrote:
jimraynor wrote:
@Matt.Kingsley

but that is not GWs fault.. It's still your gouverments fault with stupid import regularys for goods that are not produced in AU and an overall terrible customs system.

and No there is no conspiracy that GW hates AU and NZ.....

Total taxes on gw's imports into New Zealand is 20%, and the totals taxes they need to pay for selling in the uk is also 20%, which they don't need to pay if they export the product.


Additionally, GWUK "sell" it to GWNZ (and GWAU) for cents on the dollar. Import taxes are paid on those amounts.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

A normal company would do that, but what the hell would I know, I just buy and sell for a living


And your business dwarf's GW's, of course.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/22 11:30:19


Post by: Do_I_Not_Like_That


Big companies make half ass mistakes all the time.

Often, they get away with it because they have the money to burn.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/23 11:24:39


Post by: Panic


Yeah,
I've checked with GW this is the 2014 edition reissued

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
...No real reason to buy it again just for a new hat.
This is correct!
The 20014/16 version have these few extra tiles, that are missing from the 2009 version; that enable a few more missions.


Not worth buying again if you already have the 2009 version.

I have both and did a comparison between them in 2014
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/616056.page


Missions summary from that review.
The new 2014/16 Missions marked in green, use the above tiles and thus are missing from the 2009 edition.

Beachhead (1)
Terminators deploy using boarding torpedoes, the Genestealers start the mission in a dormant state (3 APs).

Suicide Mission (2)
El classico - Flame the Launch control room

Exterminate (3)
Block the genestealer entry points / kill them all!

Rescue (4)
retrieve the C.A.T.

Cleanse & Burn (5)
Flame both techmarine rooms.

Decoy (6)
As many Marines as possible Exit the Map

Alarm Call (7)
Wakey wakey sleepy marines.

Into the Depths (8)
This mission uses the turbo-lift..
The game ends when all living marines are on the second floor...
Both floors have stealer entry points.

score 1 point per marine 3 points for the Librarian on the second floor .
0-3 genestealers win
4-5 draw
6+ SpeshMArines win!

The Artefact (9)
The holy grail.

Escape Route (10)
Run the gauntlet, quickly, GStealers numbers escalate as turn numbers increase..

Regroup (11)
Marines wait for everyone to arrive... then try to exit map.

Hard Vacuum (12)
This mission uses the damaged control room tile and the hard vacuum rule (negative modifier to GS attacks).

No Escape (13)
This mission uses breach counters, there are no regular Genestealer entry points on the map.
Genestealer places the breach entry points pretty much anywhere on the map.
2 breaches are placed at the start of the game.
1 extra breach on turn 4
1 final breach on turn 8

Each Breaches spews forth 1 GeneStealer blips per turn until turn 12.

Breaches can be blocked only by standing on them.

At least 4 marines have to survive until turn 15

Defend (14)
Genestealers want to tear down a wall to breach some ducts... Marines must defend the wall.

Unknown Lifeforms (15)
Retrieve tissue samples from sleeping broodlords ... eek!

Pitfall (16)
Escape the hulk - jump down the garbage chute!




Panic...


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/23 11:56:53


Post by: 455_PWR


I bought the 2009 edition when it firat was released. I looked at the 2014 version, and ordered it when released due to the extra tilea, content, and missions.

I am so glad I ordered the 2014 version. More missions, tiles, and content gives more replay value. Sorry but I disagree, the 2014 is a better value and absolutely worth buying (even if you own the 2009 version). I buy all the white dwarfs with additional content or missions too... if I can add more content to my board games, why wouldn't i?


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/23 12:10:45


Post by: H.B.M.C.


As someone who loves tiles, I don't see much point in buying the 2014 version when you have the 2009 version. I just ordered the extra tiles.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/23 16:56:13


Post by: CURNOW


Spoke to my local gw today they are only getting in one box ! Was pretty passed off lol


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/23 17:57:43


Post by: Panic


Yeah,
The idea of value is subjective.

For me I'd bought again if the 2016 edition had 1 extra mission.
And then probably sold off the remains as a 2009/14 edition.

but the outlay £50- £75 for 1-4 missions is extreme.
So I'm glad they didn't do a minor update as it saves me the effort.

An expansion would be the dream right now!

Panic...


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/23 19:24:10


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 Panic wrote:
An expansion would be the dream right now!


Given they're back in the game a re-do of Genestealer would be fantastic.



Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/23 19:37:40


Post by: spiralingcadaver


Yeah, right? Seems like perfect timing.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/23 19:48:04


Post by: GabrielV


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Panic wrote:
An expansion would be the dream right now!


Given they're back in the game a re-do of Genestealer would be fantastic.



Yep. I'd pre-order that in an instant. More hybrid minis + More Space Hulk = WIN.

I got the 2014 edition of Space Hulk, and even bought a spare which I still have yet to open, so I'm good on the core set. But even if GW decides Space Hulk is their McRib and only rolls it out around Christmas every couple of years, I think it's a good thing.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/23 20:31:19


Post by: Azazelx


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Panic wrote:
An expansion would be the dream right now!


Given they're back in the game a re-do of Genestealer would be fantastic.



Not to mention Deathwing.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/23 23:13:32


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Updates of the tiles from those two expansions, especially the ones from Genestealer (which I own two of 'cause of those tiles) would be amazing.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/23 23:37:05


Post by: Dryaktylus


 Azazelx wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Panic wrote:
An expansion would be the dream right now!


Given they're back in the game a re-do of Genestealer would be fantastic.



Not to mention Deathwing.


One expansion would be enough I guess as most of the rules and 4 missions from Deathwing are in the 3rd/4th edition and the extensive psychic stuff from Genestealer is unnecessary.

But I doubt they'll do an expansion at all - maybe some rules in WD for some of the GSC models and an update of the two Genestealer missions.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/25 07:57:17


Post by: Azazelx


But then how will we get our updated Deathwing Terminators?

OK, I guess there's a boxed set, and Dark Vengeance, but still...


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/25 08:24:06


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
If anything sums up the ineptitude of GW these past years, it's this.

One of the best tabletop games of all time, beloved by the community, and by all accounts was flying off the shelves, such was its popularity.

Can you imagine Coca Cola pulling the plug on a successful product*, or any other half-decent company acting this way?



With 2 small kids I can now understand the whole 'Disney vault' concept. With holding a product for a while means that you have an incentive to buy it when it comes out, not wait for a sale, not think for a bit, BUY IT NOW FANBOI because you don't know if/when it will be back.

Something that will always be on the shelves we take for granted.

I just dropped a few 100 bucks on FFG games that are going out of print. I could have bought them any time over the last few years, I have no special need, hell I may not play them for years, but now the fear is on me so I got them.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/25 10:02:55


Post by: JohnnyHell


Exactly this, Kid_Kyoto. Moratorium releases turn "oh I'm totally gonna get X" internet convos that never become real action (how many armies have we all talked about getting?) into people rushing into stores so as not to miss out. Engineering scarcity or rumours of scarcity is a great short-term cash bump strategy.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/25 13:39:57


Post by: Caliginous


 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
 Sidstyler wrote:
Good news, really, since Space Hulk is fun and I thought it should have been a general release from the start...but I find it irksome that they originally advertised it as being strictly limited, saying that once the game was gone it was gone and you would never have a chance to get it again, and now they just reprint it whenever they feel like it. I have a really hard time forgiving blatant lies, especially ones that enable sleazy eBay scalping like this one did. Some people made as much as $300 for a box that originally sold for $99...lots of profit being made off of GW's work, that GW themselves never actually saw, because they were too focused on the short-term cash grab.


If, after three editions of the game, you thought Space Hulk was never ever going to be re-released again, I feel like the disappointment is a personal problem, and not "blatant lies" by Games Workshop. They never marketed it as a "Nevur Again Available!" They just said it was a limited run. You're confusing marketing puffery with some kind of devious deception. They ran a limited quantity, and gave no promise of future printings. And they didn't, for almost five years. It's like expecting that you can actually trade Pepsi points for a Harrier jet.

I do agree that Space Hulk should have never been a limited release though. But who knows what their printing and carrying costs were on it at the time. Old GW had a pretty bizarre market strategy at times.


Nope - go and read the WD from 2009 which was essentially a Space Hulk special. All throughout they go on endlessly, Jervis included, about how the game will be gone for good once it sells out.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/25 14:46:03


Post by: Fenrir Kitsune


That was 7 years ago. Times change and ltd editions ALWAYS get repressed due to demand.

Make a killing on my 2009 edition, I must say. Never really played it much as friends edition saw the use. Sold mine and we split the massive profit. week later........new edition gets announced.



Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/29 03:18:18


Post by: By John 54


I'm still totes wedded to the original, late Eighties version, still a classic, with both expansions. IMHO the best thing GW ever released, played it regulary for the last near-on 30 years (wow! it really has been!)
Devoured all the extra rules, glued up new tile sections on Corn Flake packet cardboard(!) bought about 3 sets of the tiles from each box.
Now revisiting the classic Terminator figures from that era, trawling E-Bay, painting up Blood Angels, Imperial Fists, Traitor Terminators, plus Primarchs, and the MF Emperor! for a large 'Storming Horus Barge' at the climax of the Heresy.
In short, LOVE the Hulk!

John


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/29 08:11:00


Post by: Orlanth


This edition of Space Hulk is specifically identifiable, the font on the front box lid has changed.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/29 09:34:50


Post by: Siygess


£60 on Goblin Gaming at the moment.. and that's pretty reasonable for a game that I guess never needs another purchase.

Damn it GW what are you doing to me?


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/30 16:59:38


Post by: Undead_Love-Machine


I just heard that independent stores won't be stocking this, the only way to order it online is via GW.

Can anyone confirm this? It looks like Goblin Gaming jumped the gun as it doesn't seem to be on their site anymore.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/11/30 23:39:48


Post by: 455_PWR


So space hulk was released in 2009, released again a few years later (with minimal new content), and released again. Even gw knows how popular this game is in its current, gorgeous edition!

So gw, when are you going to bring back the deathwing expansion? That would make space hulk so much better


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/12/01 00:21:29


Post by: foenixphate


Just thought I'd pipe up on this one given how fast GW were. Ordered my copy on Saturday and it arrived yesterday via UPS, so the pre-order rule that GW usually go by isn't in place on this item.


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/12/14 15:49:52


Post by: By John 54


'So space hulk was released in 2009, released again a few years later (with minimal new content), and released again.

Originally released back in 1989(?) I believe, when the world, and me! was yoiung. This is the version, with it's two expansions, that I play.

John


Space Hulk reissued Dec 3! (and some WD tidbits) @ 2016/12/14 18:50:32


Post by: spiralingcadaver


For anyone on the fence, a review I just did.