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The -=]_=- Terrain Competition Thread -=]_=- LoER Terrain Contest #21 "CARD-inal Sins."Results @ 2016/12/03 09:28:47


Post by: Camkierhi


Welcome to the 21st round of the League of Extraordinary Riveters Terrain Competition.
CARD-inal Sins

The main aim of these competitions is to encourage gamers and model-makers alike to go that extra mile when building terrain that can be used for playing your preferred tabletop wargame (or similar pastime - for example, a board game playing piece would be acceptable). Those taking part can expect to receive ideas, inspiration, encouragement and feedback from each other, and at the end each of the participants is "rewarded" with a new piece of terrain for their own use (that's the thing you just built).

For those who have not taken part before, this is a competition about terrain building (as you may have gathered from the title), but it is not strictly limited to pure terrain, dioramas that can be used as table top terrain are allowed (see rules below). To get a feel for how these competitions run and what to expect you may wish to look at the previous rounds, linked below.

Each round has a “theme” or other defining attribute(s) that must in some way be applied to the your terrain project, to compete with other modellers for that most prestigious of prizes, membership into The League of Extraordinary Riveters [LoER].

The competition is open to everyone registered on Dakka Dakka, all are welcome to enter regardless of ability, etc.
The winner of each round hosts the next round, and the cycle continues.
The theme, limitations, rules, judging and prizes are all the responsibility of the host, although he or she can get help from others for some of those things...

For those who are returning once again to compete a most sincere and heartfelt welcome back!

Past Competitions.

Contest #1 "Lids" (dsteingass)
Contest #2 "Cookie Package” (Viktor Von Doom)
Contest #3 "Fightin' Pit!" (MrMerlin)
Contest #4 "For the title of Master Shrubber" (Meade)
Contest #5 "Vehicles!" (Bruticus)
Contest #6 "We're Not Worthy!" (Meade)
Contest #7 "Fire at Will" ( hk1x1)
Contest #8 "All are welcome" (Camkierhi)
Contest #9 “Elementary" (Littletower)
Contest #10 "The Throne" (Camkierhi)
Contest #11 "On The Road" (Red Harvest)
Contest #12 "Wall me up, fence me in " (monkeytroll)
Contest #13 "What went wrong?" (OneManNoodles)
Contest #14 "Making something extraordinary from the ordinary" (Dr H)
Contest #15 "The Trapdoor"(inmygravenimage)
Contest #16 "Got Wood?" (Viktor Von Doom)
Contest #17 "The (re)cycle of Life" (Guildenstern)
Contest #18 "The Portal;(inmygravenimage)
Contest #19 "Let it Flow!;(Camkierhi)
Contest #20 "Noise Polution"; (Tek Thornison)
... And now onwards to the current competition...

This round's theme is "Card-inal Sin".
The main idea is to get back to basics and celebrate a material we all take for granted these days, if sprue is the wonder material, the humble cardboard box is the unsung hero. I want to see the card, not hidden away, celebrated, proudly out there for all to see. I want you to interpret this in any way you see fit, but I will be impressed by any interesting, unusual and original interpretation thereof.

You can be in any scale or any system you like. Ideally, your first WIP photo should what you bits and pieces you are starting with, but I'm aware these things evolve organically. Also, it's about being innovative with what you have lying about or can scavenge - but using a kit part for a totally different purpose, or on a different scale, will also be rewarded.

I like to see how people build their models, and I'm sure I'm not alone in this. So please post as many WIP shots as you can. This can achieve more than just keeping me happy (and you want to do that anyway ): Regular posts in this thread will keep it in the public eye and will allow more people to find this contest. Also, if you post WIP shots, others can give you feedback and ideas before it's too late to change it (this will only help you as a participant and we all learn something new).

However, FINAL pictures should not be shown here. This is important for motivation, we are all our own worst critics, and seeing someone's brilliant work should not put us off but it can. I can't stop you posting in your own threads, but please not in here. PM me with the pictures / links instead when they are ready.

One last note on photographs. Please put as much effort into taking photos of your finished model as you have building it. Poorly lit, out-of-focus, blurred, and low resolution photos can harm your chances in any competition. Remember, If I can't see it in the photo, I can't judge it. Only you can hold the model in your hands and turn it around to see everything. Make sure everything you want me to see is in the photos. Thank you.
If you build special terrain(like with functional mechanical parts) a video how it works, will be great.

Rules:.
1: Talk about fight club the Competition. Tell everyone. Post it in your blogs. Add the banner to your signature.
HTML code for the banner.....
{url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/709936.page#9055267]{img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/11/8/429237_md-.jpg{/img]{/url]
change all the "{" to "["
It should look and work like this one:


2: Must be completed by the deadline. And when I say "must", I mean "about". There is a fair amount of leeway given in these contests but assume there will be no extensions and we'll cross any problems when it arises.
The Deadline is midnight BST 28.02.2017
But anything on that night through to midday will be accepted so that those of you living in the past can keep going until bed time.

3: Your piece should be scratch-built or heavily converted. Model kit parts can be used, especially if used in an unusual way, but you will get more points for something you sculpt yourself, so keep that in mind. Unconventional parts are highly recommended in addition to those you will be using as part of this competition.

4: Your model should be a piece of terrain or a diorama that can be used for gaming purposes. It cannot be a playable model in itself (a crashed tank must stay crashed), but removable models (people) are fine.

5: Any scale, any setting and any gaming system are welcome. A nice mixture of fantasy, sci-fi, historical, or modern will make this contest all the more interesting. If you don't play a game, that's fine too; just make a display piece, but keep rule 4 in mind.

6: The women are right, size doesn't matter. You can make as small or as large a model as you want. Bear in mind the time-scale and don't bite off more than you can chew. We've all made that mistake!

7: Final Entry: Six or more photos of your final entry, showing top, front, both sides, back and all the important parts - not to be posted in this thread. PM me with links to your galleries, albums, etc. As I said above, please take the time to take the best photos that you can.
Together with your photos, I would like a statement of the items (a photo would be ideal) that you used. This is not a must, but would be helpful.

Feel free to include some fluff or an explanation of the model/setting to allow the rest of us to fully appreciate your work.

8: AMBITION: Push yourself. Try something new! Always wanted to use leds? Go for it! Fancied weathering powders? Here's your chance! I'll be looking at your galleries for previous work, entries etc. I want everyone to feel that their best has a fair shot at this. This is very important, Another words it might not be the BEST model that wins, but the one that has shown themselves to have pushed that envelope.

9: Not so much a rule, but it wouldn't be the League of Extraordinary Riveters if there are no rivets. This also means similar small details are highly valued (rivets are the best example of this level of detailing).

10: Sprue. Find a use for the often discarded wonder material and bonus points will be yours.

11. Small bonus for being small, I have repeatedly seen amazing large pieces being made, and am guilty myself of such, however so many fall by the way side because the thing grows arms and legs and runs away with time. So a small bonus will be awarded to those who can give me a piece on a CD or less. This is not a hard and fast rule. See Rule #6 for size matters.

12. THE RULE OF COOL trumps all.

If you are unsure of anything just ask away.

Judging:
Modelling: 55 points total.
(10 points) Skill and Techniques - No mould lines, gaps or rough edges (that are not meant to be rough). Show that you know the difference between a hobby knife and a spatula.
(10 points) Originality - You could have built anything, what did you choose?
(10 points) Materials - Choice of Ordinary items (ease of use / ambition / originality). Scratch-building Vs. recycled materials parts.
(10 points) Little details - Rivets, and other small details that add realism to the piece.
(5 points) The wonder material - Use of Sprue in is own right not just as a hidden support structure. Good, new and original use of sprue.
(10 points) Design - How well was the idea translated to the model? Layout of the piece; artistically and for playability. Well thought out design for the setting. Does the build fit the theme?

Painting: 40 points total.
(10 points) Between the lines - Crisp and clean paintwork. No slips or brushstrokes. A good base coat is neat. The lines are clean, etc
(10 points) Simple but effective - Use of basic techniques (washes, dry-brushing, layering etc.) to a high level. coverage of both the basecoat and final layers.
(10 points) Skill and Techniques - Use of advanced painting techniques such as blending, shading, OSL, weathering, edge highlighting, freehand, etc... And their execution.
(10points ) Final product - How does the piece look overall in all its glory.

Bonuses: 35 points total.

(10 points) Coolness: Rule of Cool is always in effect.
(10 points) Ambition: How far have you pushed yourself as a modeller and painter? Is this your usual standard, or have you tried new techniques, processes - or just played it safe?
(5 points) Size bonus: If you can keep it under a CD in base size, you could get a "little" bonus.
(5 points) Use of Toilet roll inner tube. If you can work in a good use of this unsung hero 5 bonus points are yours.
(5 points) Seasonal theme, if you can work in the time of year, be it New Years or a religious celebration piece, extra to anyone who does a nativity scene with the Emperor as a baby!

130 points total. (I know weird huh! Just go with it.

Yes, there is more emphasis on modelling than painting. And Ambition points are there because I want to reward folk who go the extra mile on this.

Prizes:
1st Prize.
Membership to the League of Extraordinary Riveters as top prize. You will be allowed to fly the League's banner and be recognised as a modeller devoted to Rivets.
A large goody bag from my bits box.

2nd Prize.
Goody bag, trust me it will be worth it.

People's choice: As voted for by your fellow Dakkanauts.
Warm feelings inside and the bragging rights that your peers love your work.
And a small goody bag.

Judges: Me, looking for volunteers, this is not a get out of the competition free card mind you.

Now there is a bit more time to this one as Holiday season is upon us and things go quiet, but I would really like to see you all posting regular on this one, lots of WIP and lots of sharing of ideas, that is the main point of this after all. Even if you are not entering feel free to comment and ideas, they really boost the community.

Last little word, this is the 21st competition and it has been a heck of a ride, this competition is a coming of age celebration, so lets make it a good one.


The -=]_=- Terrain Competition Thread -=]_=- LoER Terrain Contest #21 "CARD-inal Sins."Results @ 2016/12/03 10:21:25


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Yes!!!! Early Christmas present!!! Aka new competition theme!!!
And even in my beloved material!!! Consider me so in

*bows* cheers, vik


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Post by: Dr H


Nice idea. I'll see if I can get something done (or started at least). But probably not until after Chrimbo. Good thing the deadline is not until February.


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Post by: Red Harvest


Well, I'm drawing a blank at the moment. I can serve as a judge if need be. I may be a bit burnt out on cardstock. :S

Vik, I though you were a wood guy? Although, cardstock is wood... sort of.

Sig updated too.


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Post by: shasolenzabi


Vik is a master of cardboard scratch building, and he even can make cardboard rivets! He is the Card-board Meister!


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Post by: stonned_astartes


Nice, theme not sue iv'e got time though. Hope to see peoples ideas, and might get stuck with inspiration.


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Post by: Viktor von Domm


Well, found my project...I think the term is geodesic dome...I try to come up with a nice setup for some tau terrain...we will see where this leads me...


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Post by: JoeRugby


I'm in.

No idea what I'll do yet but I'm in


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Post by: TerrainWalker


this theme fits nicely with a piece I'm wanting to start on soon. I'm in for real this time! :p


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Post by: DalinCriid


I don't get it? Are we to build a monument?


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Post by: Viktor von Domm


nope:

This round's theme is "Card-inal Sin".
The main idea is to get back to basics and celebrate a material we all take for granted these days, if sprue is the wonder material, the humble cardboard box is the unsung hero. I want to see the card, not hidden away, celebrated, proudly out there for all to see. I want you to interpret this in any way you see fit, but I will be impressed by any interesting, unusual and original interpretation thereof.


meaning you can go ballistic insofar as creativity goes WITH the theme material CARDBOARD. so a statue to honour cardboard would be hilarious but rules wise fully acceptable...but you can build everything you could come up with...ork hideout, tau landing platform or chaos altar...provided...you guessed it...its mostly made from ...cardboard


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Post by: terry


I might try something out, luckly I haven't trown all the gw boxes yet, during my clean up.


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Post by: Cleatus


Hello cardboard, my old friend...
Are we talking specifically about corrugated cardboard (from boxes, etc.), or does the competition include other paper products like card stock and paper board (cereal box material), etc.?
It seems like many people who use corrugated cardboard hide the fact that a piece if made from the stuff. Taping edges, or otherwise concealing them is common. Will there be bonus points for showing off the corrugation/fluting in some creative way?


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Post by: Viktor von Domm


I guess every derivative of cardboard is fair game...
As for the non hiding granting extra points...sounds plausible to me, but the supreme judge has the last word on that matter...


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Post by: Camkierhi


Welcome all, good to see some interest.

Best clarify things I guess,

Yes any card will do.

It does not have to be exclusively made of card, you can use other materials or parts. For instance a Maelstrom Edge Terrain sprue, with a humble cardboard box.

The idea is celebrate Cardboard. So seeing it used for it's texture etc.

The point is anything goes. There is an infinite amount of possibility, I deliberately left it open to encourage people to have a go.

If you read the rules and judging criteria, you may notice some onuses available.

In the immortal words of a youtube giant..get crafting.


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Post by: inmygravenimage


This is not an entry but an attempt to illustrate what Cam means, I think:

Warehouse made largely from a corrugated cardboard hamper.


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Oh, I'm in, btw


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Post by: Cleatus


Okey dokey. I'll set the Grots to work on it and see what they come up with; the beatings will continue until output improves.


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Post by: Rawson


Not sure if I'll have an entry, but I'm happy to be a judge :thumbs:


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Post by: Solar_lion


Another example.. All card ( including rivets ) with a Spru frame..


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Post by: Alister92


Great idea and interesting theme for competision) I'll try to get some ideas from astral and start working! I'm just a few months here, but i'll try to be a good member of this great and kind comunity=) I'm in!


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Post by: stonned_astartes


Can't decide on a necromunda hive or an ork workshop...

Oh it looks i'm in


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Post by: Cleatus


I do love me some cardboard. Here are a few things I've done in the past. Shameless plug, but also sharing ideas:
Spoiler:



Wow, I took these factory pics with my old camera. They are really grainy. I should take new ones.


I should really paint that Ork cargo container.
...
Or make more!




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Post by: Maniac_nmt


Can it be made with paper/card stock vs just cardboard?


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Post by: Ruglud


I 'could' be tempted to enter, but I just have soooo many other projects still on the go.... Decisions, decisions !!! Arrrggghhhh....


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Post by: Camkierhi


@ Maniac_nmt, yes paper and cardstock will be fine, does not have to be only made with card though, you can use anything as long as the star of the show is card.

I know that everyone is short on time right now and will only get shorter as the holidays approach. But it will pass and there are 2 months after the holidays to have a go at this, so please don't dismiss it yet this is the idea stage anyways.

In the vain of ideas for people from previous models, here's my embarrassment...
Spoiler:



Made from just the sprue and box from a Catachan Troops squad and a CD. Bindings are wetted cardboard rapped around. Planks are cardboard scored with tweezers. Plants are cardboard, metal panels at the top are exactly what I am saying, the texture of the card makes for very good pitted metal sheet. Hope this gives some inspiration.

Anyways I will be PM'ing the current volunteers for judging, hoping this will be a toughy and you all will make it a difficult job for us.


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Post by: Maniac_nmt


If I may I will throw my hat in.


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Post by: Camkierhi


More the merrier, welcome.


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Post by: Dr H


I was going to suggest you show that watch-tower, Cam'. Perfect example of card use and recycling.

For my example I'll share the bell tower I made for Graven as a prize for a previous round of this contest:

The main structure of the tower is made from layers of carboard box card, skinned with thin card (with the bricks scored into the surface), and the lower section is a nice rough-texture card that was picked out with dry-brushing.



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Post by: inmygravenimage


^Owning this, I can attest to its brilliance and beauty.


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Post by: Dr H


 inmygravenimage wrote:
^Owning this, I can attest to its brilliance and beauty.


And second to me, you can get a lot of helpful hints and tips from it's construction...

...For everyone else, the construction is detailed in my "money making" blog.


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Post by: Camkierhi


Well you have had a weekend to think on it, so how about showing some ideas peeps!


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Post by: inmygravenimage




Not what I originally planned, but then saw these as we were decorating for xmas and thought ooooh giant industrial spools.


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Post by: Maniac_nmt


My opening concept and materials can be found here, at the bottom of page 3:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/474587.page#9072968


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Post by: Viktor von Domm


so....after about four earlier tries going poo shaped in a hurry i finally decided...again on a project...

for this i will go not old school but even older....or rather ancient... cardboard rocks from layers of card...pics later on...


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up to here 100% cardboard (different qualities) and PVA...




now tissue paper and latex paint added...


went done altogether smoothly...
will make quite some more...and my missus will be pleased to see lots of packaging material too be "gone" in the end...^^


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Post by: Cleatus


Tissue paper! Brilliant. That looks like a really good start!


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Post by: Camkierhi


Fantastic start gentlepeeps, great to see some activity.

Those reels look excellent really nice large scale for an industrial feel.

Welcome Maniac_nmt, having skipped through your blog really looking forward to seeing what you produce.

And Vik as always brilliant sir, very old school and very cool.


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Post by: dsteingass


I'm in this round. Need to show you kids how this is done. Really glad for the "back to basic" theme too. Fundamentals are....well....fundamental. Be it Reading, writing, making music, or terrain.


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Post by: Viktor von Domm


now the kids gloves are off, eh?


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Post by: dsteingass


Vik, I rely on YOU to keep me motivated and in check!


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Post by: Red Harvest


Kick his ass, Vik. Oh wait, I'm judging... Give us your best work, both of you. Yeah, that's what I meant to say... I blame auto-correct.

And a good thing that I'll be helping to judge instead of participating. I would hate to think someone would have the audacity to refer to me as a 'kid'. I might have to put my foot someplace... now where could I put it... I am, of course, kidding. I do want to see some quality stuff from you guys. from everyone, really.

Folks, what can be done with cardboard and/or cardstock?
Spoiler:


becomes

I may have recycled a few Christmas cards on this one.





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Post by: Solar_lion


Very nice Red, love the colors, having trouble seeing the rivets though?

Was this for a game of just a project?


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Post by: Red Harvest


Rivets are on the inside. This was for a tournament, the NOVA Open. Several of us -- NOVA staffers at the time--built terrain that represented certain landmark buildings and memorials here in Washington. They were to be used in a narrative tournament. It is the National Museum of the American Indian, FYI.

Ah here it is, the post I was referencing in my previous post. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/5880/500202.page#8919988
Although I have more hair. For the moment anyway.

Hey Vik, have you seen the way some people do hills, like in this photo? Reminds me of your piece before you applied the tissuepaper + latex paint.



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Post by: Viktor von Domm


Exactly red, but I picture the rocks I make like these sand and wind and water eroded rocks from the grand canyon and similar, so I make them a bit look like balancing pebbles too...carving them up a bit...

And I got that reference immediately, as I am watching in the background that 70th show each night...and well , what can you do red Forman is the center figure for that show!!!

And to Dave...cheeky!


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Post by: Matthew


I'm kind of new to this, can we do whatever we want as long as it follow the theme?


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Post by: Viktor von Domm


Couldn't have put it any better... you're spot on, let your imagination run wild


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Post by: inmygravenimage


Dammit. Just saw the Seasonal scoring. And now I have a new idea...


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Post by: Guildenstern


Hmm have a thought, will see how it plays out.

Very very busy of late, trying to finish last minute stuffs to clean off my desk and also get stuff ready for Christmas. I love how while the kids are all out of school (almost), their extra curricular activities continue sigh.

Anyway, other than an exacto knife does anyone have a good method for cutting cardboard (by which I mean the corrugated, box kind) - I'm wanting to make pretty regular, longish strips so I'd like to keep them as straight and level as possible.


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Post by: Viktor von Domm


What about just tearing apart the lot? Or am I having difficulties here to understand what you meant? Working currently on a new piece for my overall entry and there I need cardboard "bricks" so to say...and cutting everything just unnerved me...so I went full monster on the cardboard and ripped my way through boxes of packages...


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Post by: Dr H


Red'. I am tempted to try out some curved, laminated card, multi-layer shapes like you have. Lends itself to large buildings though, and I want to keep it small so that I get something done in time... Will have to cogitate on what (relatively) small things can be built that incorporate those shapes.

Guilden'. I would (and have) use(d) a sharp blade of the scalpel/exacto variety for card. Metal ruler and multiple light passes; while you can cut all the way through card in one go it can deform the edge of the card along the cut. This is minimised by taking it slower and cutting one side and then a second pass to get through the other side, for example.

Card is good for damaged shapes by tearing, like Vik mentions. Although, once layered up with PVA it's as tough as plastic and you can use a saw; like I did on Graven's tower.


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Post by: Viktor von Domm


Also...that cutting machines...the ones you find also in copy shops...guillotine style...for non curogated cardboard it's the best...tho like Dr H said, it too ruins the edges a bit...


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Post by: Maniac_nmt


How overt does the holiday theme have to be?

The clan I choose to use for my Ronin force is the Otomo clan. They were one of the few Christian Samurai clans after contact with the Portugese. As they were later absorbed into another clan, choosing them risked little and it gave me a credible reason to have teppos in my force.

Since I don't want to have the piece be snowy or directly Christmas, I thought of taking a simple Christmas related saying, and putting it in Kanji on some banners. 99.9% of people would just see a Kanji parchment, but I/the contest, would know what it says.


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Post by: Viktor von Domm


Wasn't aware there was some Christmas related themed rule/expectations included in this comp....?
I wanted to skip on the whole holy an merry stuff...hmmm


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Post by: Maniac_nmt


I've made some reasonable progress on the trees and framing.

Cutting the planking out of card instead of balsa is a royal pita. I hope it paints up okay.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/474587.page#9083007


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Post by: Camkierhi


Excellent work, really coming on. Sorry for delay in response to your earlier question, yes you would get something for the signs, but as it is subtle, maybe not all available points. I would add that this seasonal bonus does not require snowy landscaping or glitter, after all even on this planet Xmas in Oz is a beach BBQ.

Excellent to see some traffic here thank you, keep it up.


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Post by: Red Harvest


Guildenstern, this is what I would use, do use, to cut the corrugated stuff

A decent box cutter, a carpenter's square, a fence-- the strip of wood at the top of the photo-- and for making the same measurement repeatedly, like for cutting strips, the combination square.

Doc, you'll need to set aside time and space. It is a time consuming process because of the drying times for the glue, and space consuming because you'll want to do something else while waiting for the glue to cure.


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Post by: kestral


I do like Cardboard and it think it is underestimated as a material, mostly because it is so easy to use.

These guys are armored in cardboard, one's rifle is part Cardboard (with a hot glue helmet).



I might try out some cardboard roads or walkways I've been thinking of.



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Post by: Camkierhi


Those are fantastic Kestral. Can't wait to see your work. Welcome aboard.

When I cut corrugated card, just use sharp blade, and go through with a toothpick after to straighten up the edge.


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Post by: JoeRugby


Was tempted to do a variation on this

Spoiler:



As it's mostly cereal box + bits box.

But that would be boring so I'm going to try making a sci fi wind turbine either a big one if I can work out how to get the propeller to move (without blowing on it)
Or two small ones on a base.

Can I get the extra holiday points if I make it/them out of Christmas present packaging? :p


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Post by: Dr H


Red Harvest wrote:...Doc, you'll need to set aside time and space. It is a time consuming process because of the drying times for the glue, and space consuming because you'll want to do something else while waiting for the glue to cure.
Yeah, don't I know it. Making that tower was an education in patience.


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Post by: Guildenstern


Thanks guys! appreciate the advice - haven't had time to do more than think about it atm, what with Christmas coming and all (omg 5 days arrrrrrgh!)

Anyway, have a base of an idea, will see where it goes. Hopefully I'll get something together to show you guys soon!

Okiday so here's some shots of my WIP:



^^ Trying to cut the cardboard straight...




^^ cuz this is why... I'd thought at first to turn 1/2 of the pieces I cut out 90o, but they weren't tall enough even doubled, to match the height of the corrugated showing piece. So I decided to cut corkboard instead into strips to intersperse and make a nice pattern.




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Post by: Guildenstern











So it's going a pace, not sure how much more I should show will probably put up in my terrain thread later as well. Obviously it turned into a house. I'm thinking it will be a Malifaux style western mercantile shop for my eventual western board, I've in the back of my mind for our Malifaux games.


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Post by: Viktor von Domm


that floor is the bravest use of corrugated cardboard i have ever seen...


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Post by: Camkierhi


Beautiful work, very busy, very much appreciated, very inspirational, simple materials brilliantly used to create something amazing, very very good.

That's at least two entries moving along very nicely, I know we are all going to get very busy, next few days but would love to see any and all progress.

I will very likely be on over next few days, but for those who may have to disappear, Merry Christmas one and all.


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Post by: Maniac_nmt


That is an impressive ammount of balsa. Very nice work so far.


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Post by: kestral


Very clever floor. I've decided to do a bridge.


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Post by: Dr H


Nice ideas and done well, Guilden'.


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Post by: kestral


Here's the start to mine - cross posted from my civilian thread, hope that is OK!

Here's the start to the Bridge- although the contest is to showcase cardboard, all the cardboard will be on the surface for detailing. The actual structure like most of my stuff will be wood, plastic and gorilla glue. My terrain needs to be able to survive pretty rough handling.

My original concept was a very elaborate bridge that had a house built on it so the bridge keeper could live there - charging tolls, fishing, netting salvage out of the canals, that sort of thing. However, the contest encourages one to do stuff that will "Fit on a CD", and that is good advice. This will ensure that I finish it.

So it will be a small bridge, the sort that might join two minor neighborhoods in an area where the canals are too narrow for all but the smallest boats. The bridge includes a tower and can be gated. This allows Arbites, militia, or whoever to seal the bridge, forming a natural barrier to criminals, mobs, invading armies, etc. The tower and bridge will make a natural strong point (or at least choke point) for gaming, and be designed to house at least a small squad during play. The second story will be ideal for heavy weapons teams, though the current "6" base" weapons teams won't fit. I swear GW's end game is for terrain to be irrelevant as model bases will cover the entire gaming surface. Anyway, here are the pieces cut out and being glued (excess glue will be trimmed away with a knife).





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Post by: Maniac_nmt


Some nice stuff going on. I have my mostly completed entry up:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/474587.page

I have a few bells and whistles to add to the base, to finish it/add rivets, but overall I'm happy with how it turned out. I ended up with enough skewers that I will make myself a few bits of bamboo forest scatter terrain. I'll do one on a CD, and 3 on smaller bases. I should do a path, or a shrine, on the CD...


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Post by: Nerazim


Going to give this one a go, last time I fell short on finishing the paint job in time. This time I'm keeping it small-ish.

Got tonnes of cardboard from Chrismas stuff laying around.

Plan is to do something like this + some piping made from wrapping paper tubes.



Will keep the paintjob nice and simple this time


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Post by: Maniac_nmt


Ah, a nodding donkey/grasshopper...as someone in the oil industry, awesome!


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Post by: Red Harvest


That would make a very nice piece. Especially if it has moving parts. Cam mentioned moving parts in the intro to this contest too.

Nice progress Guildenstern and Kestral.

And I decided to play along. Hopefully, to inspire and maybe offer a useful tip or two.
Start with cardboard and cut it precisely

Glue the strips to keep the thing from warping.

A little assist from gravity to help it dry straight.

Give the piece a backing

And finally, assemble the pieces

We have a start of something interesting, no? I should put some weights on it, just to see how much it can support. Anyone care to guess how much?

N.B. This is not an entry for the contest. This is just me playing at home, so to speak. Think of it as a form of cheerleading.


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Post by: JoeRugby


Great work so far all

Making me look forward to starting my entry next week


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Post by: Llamahead


I'm going to enter but it's not going to be to impressive equally I've been wanting to do 2d dungeon tiles for Frostgrave/Open Combat etc and this is as good a time as any.


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Post by: Camkierhi


Happy New Year everyone, wishing you all a great year ahead.

Fantastic work guys and dolls splended stuff, excellent examples of building techniques on display. I recon at least 20lbs Red, looks plenty strong to me. All great work everyone, and now you should have a glut of materials from all the wonderful prezzies Santa dropped by.

Thank you all for making this competition great, look forward to seeing more over the next few months.



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Post by: Red Harvest


Cam, you wound me. 20 Pounds?

That's a mere 80 pounds. It can take more; I'm certain. The table, I'm not so certain about. Remember, this is just for inspiration. Showing the potential in paper.

Well folks, The Holidays are over ( unless you celebrate Orthodox Christmas. That's the 7th?) So to work, to work.


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Post by: inmygravenimage


^ RH

that is all...

*sigh*

Turns out I'm in.

And I'm vaguely thinking of this
Spoiler:





Automatically Appended Next Post:

(Alternatively)


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Post by: Solar_lion


 inmygravenimage wrote:

And I'm vaguely thinking of this



That is too funny .. triple dog dare you !


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Post by: Viktor von Domm


Later Version looks more convincing...so you show your eating habits here...chuppa chups and Pringles...


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Post by: inmygravenimage


Yeah, I think v2 is better but need a middle layer somehow. Hmmmmmmm. And yeah, giant chupa stolen from kids (fun fact: chupa chups logo was designed by Salvador Dali) it conforms to "festival" theme because as everyone knows Batman Returns is a Christmas movie AND it's set on Gotham's bicentennial. That's twice the festival (Harvey Dent would approve)! However, I may make it derelict and add some corrugated cardboard fencing also.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oh, and the base is a Xmas CD


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Post by: inmygravenimage


Oh well. Challenge... Accepted!


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Post by: Maniac_nmt


Here is a bit of inspiration for those who haven't chosen yet. A lot of sci-fi terrain lacks urban greenery. In a bombed out setting, that make some sense, sure....

However, for other things like Infinity, you could get a lot of mileage out of putting some rooftop gardens in, planter boxes, and the like.

http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20170106-incredible-rooftops-around-the-world

The Fichtebunker in Berlin and Vertical Forest in Milan have a lot of promise for inspiration.

Fujimoto and the Penthouse gardens in New York would be very simple to do, and add a lot of character.


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Post by: kestral


Rooftop gardens is a cool idea, and I do like nice found object tower...

Here's some progress on my Bridge:

Trying to step things up a notch from my usual I've added interior detail. Unfortunately some of it will be covered by the corner pillars it turns out. I've been doing a bit of gladiator themed graffiti "Lydia has no equal" and "Corax will win" have been cropping up on my ruins and buildings. Clearly they have a match coming up.



Since it is a project showcase what cardboard can do, I tried out a technique I've been meaning to give a whirl to make the roadway. I took thin cereal box cardboard, crumpled and tore it, then flattened it out and glued it down to plastic.



Then painted and drybrushed it. Good for a weathered and battered road I think.



Now on to assembly of the basic span.


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Post by: Cleatus


Lots of great projects going on here. Red, thanks for "cheerleading".

OK, throwing my hat in the ring.

I'm imagining a structure being climbed by Grots, and then when they reach the top the little guys slide down in some fashion. Perhaps from corrugated awning to awning.
I don't have much to show yet, but here's some cardboard I've cut to size to get the ball rolling for the tiers:


Taking inspiration from these images:
(spoilered for size)
Spoiler:



Make of those what you will...


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Post by: Anvildude


Funny that you should mention greenery, Maniac.

I'm in (if there's still time), and I think I'm gonna use the flexibility and potential fuzzyness of card to create some plants and stuff.

Giant ferns, trees of various kinds, maybe a mechanical bush...


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Post by: Camkierhi


Fantastic guys, wonderful things happening here, so much brilliant variety.

Love the texturing of the road surface Kestral, and all the ideas being shared, glad you have joined in the fun Graven, and Cleatus, that sounds a very interesting idea Cleatus.

Keep at it guys, wonderful work.


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Post by: Ruglud


IF (big if at the moment) I get a spurt of inspiration - and I do have some ideas in mind... - then this is what I'll make my piece pretty much entirely out of the classic material that is cereal boxes. A sheet or two of A4 paper may also appear...


(disclaimer: other cereals are available...)

More to follow... possibly...


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Post by: Guildenstern


Might do a couple more pics, since it's not quite finished yet - still not 100% together, but it's coming along really well. So soon I hope. I need my painting table back lmao

At least I finally had a chance to go get some MDF for a base (point in fact, if you're in a high humid area, don't leave your MDF in your shed... it'll mold. Sigh)

Love that building @Red Harvest that looks awesome, I'd have not reckoned on it holding 80+ pounds tho.


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Post by: kestral


Must. Eat. More. Cereal....

Working on the bridge: The roof is one of my favorite uses of Cardboard - corrugated roof.



Note the use of Sprue as a railing and with the "spikes" where models attach sticking out. Also considering some round sprue as pipe.



Interior showing ladder.



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Post by: Camkierhi


I got shares in Kelloggs hehe

Excellent work peeps, that bridge is looking the biz like the use of sprue.


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Post by: Guildenstern


That bridge looks a lot like a dice tower too - it could have dual use =D



^^ getting ready to put stuff inside, decided to lay it out



exterior, shutters almost done


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Post by: Dr H


Good ideas and progress.

I have cleared my workspace and can now start planning for this (and the airbrush hood I want to build).

Cheese shop... Cheese shop... Ah Ha...




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Post by: Cleatus


WIP photos:








The build is proceeding nicely. I might be able to finish the overall structure this weekend, but there's still quite a bit of detail work to do.


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Post by: Dr H


Nice design, Cleatus. Looks like the sort of thing I've been building in Fallout 4.


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Post by: Guildenstern


Bwhahahha

I love that skit =D Dr H

And that looks really cool Cleatus very orky and ramshackle!


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Post by: Camkierhi


Stunning work both of you, really coming on with the cheese shop, and great start Cleatus, looks really promising.


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Post by: Llamahead


Well I told you it would be simple.

Just simple card tiles stuck to a cereal card base to give a floor tile. Equally simple does have it's advantages.

That's completed at the moment plenty more to come and with some in use shots



It's card so lightweight easy to store and replace. I'm currently considering doing a few objective rooms and staircase tiles.


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Post by: Ruglud


I'll just leave this here...



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Post by: Camkierhi


@ Llamahead, Simple but effective, works for me.

@ Ruglud, Colour me intrigued.


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Post by: Guildenstern


Wow Ruglud that's some impressive engineering!


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Post by: dsteingass


My entry will be a half-timbered Empire-style house (i.e. top-heavy and stylized) of yet-undetermined design (i.e. I'm just going to add things on just as a real owner would)

I will provide pics of materials as I decide to use them.
]
For Starters: Corrugated cardboard and styrene window bitz




The Idea is to make the wood framing be the real support just like the real thing, since corrugated is designed to give under pressure from a certain direction, so EVERYTHING needs to be square





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Post by: ZoBo


I must admit, I had fairly low expectations of what kind of results this theme would yield...but wow! there are some brilliant projects cooking here so far!...definitely changed my view of cardboard as a terrain material


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Post by: Maniac_nmt


As a tip for making right angles, grab your old lego blocks.

You can build two L shaped walls as high as your need to hold it all straight while the glue dries.


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Post by: Camkierhi


Super stuff guys and dolls, keep at it.


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Post by: Cleatus


Llamahead, I like the simple design. Yes, please do some other details like staircases.

Ruglud, interesting, interesting...

dsteingass, looking good!

More WIP photos. It's getting there!







(Cross-posted to my P&M blog.)

Keep up the good work, folks!


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Post by: Ruglud


ʌʌ I like that Cleatus, I like that very much... ʌʌ


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Post by: JoeRugby


Some amazing stuff common up in this thread

Waiting for a model airplane prop to arrive so i can do mine


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Post by: dsteingass


Cleatus, that is absolutely fantastic! +10000000 points for style alone if I were judge.


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Post by: kestral


Wow, grot town is awesome, and that house looks cool too. Nothing wrong with cardboard flagstones either. Here's a question - can you include models/objects that are not directly attached to the submission? I have some ideas, but I like to keep things modular for game play (I'm not really a diorama guy)?


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Post by: Groo_The_Wanderer


Cleatus, absolutely love that ramshackle grot town. Great use of the corrugated cardboard. Looks like an actual 3rd world country.


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Post by: Guildenstern


Cleatus that's just awesome =D


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Post by: Cleatus


Thank you, gentlemen. I was beginning to worry that it was bordering on madness, or looked childish. And to be honest I've never tried something this involved before. It's hard to maintain perspective sometimes when you're deep in a project. I'm glad you like it.

Once I finish the build, the really difficult part is next: painting. I prime with gesso these days. This means I need to seal paper and cardboard before painting it, otherwise it will warp. I've had some success in the past with sealing cardboard. I've used Americana Multi-Purpose Sealer on some projects, and on others I have brushed on a thin layer of PVA. Matte varnish would probably work too, or ModPodge, or maybe even carefully drybrushing the cardboard with acrylic paint. Once I read about a scratch builder who soaked his cardboard creations with super glue from the $1.00 store, which not only made them water resistant but also extremely rigid! Anyway, once that step is done, I plan to apply a coat of gesso (2-3 thin coats really), then paint as normal. I'm a messy painter, and often keep on painting until something "looks right". Luckily Orks are pretty forgiving of this style.


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Post by: inmygravenimage


Very cool, very labyrinth vibe.


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Post by: TerrainWalker


A little late, but I'm finally getting to some buildings.

here's the pile o' crap I delved from the junk bin and some early WIPs.


*edit* spoilered those pics


Spoiler:












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Post by: inmygravenimage


That's big and chunky!

Here's where I'm at:

I love the textures in the cake board I've used for the large platform, it's got a weird sort of filigree treadplate to it and have started cutting corrugated cardboard for fencing (leftover from last summer's warehouse project). Need to work on the giant head for the top, I'm thinking of using toilet roll tube unravelled to give me the ear shapes.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

Base evolution. Corrugated cardboard, car mesh, coffee stirrer, balloon stick, gravel, cardboard bricks.


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Post by: TerrainWalker


Oh nice! I like it Graven. and yah, Mine is going to be a lead-sheathed radioactive material storage building. nice and chunkay


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Post by: inmygravenimage


Is that the one you just put up on Facebook? Sweet.


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Post by: TerrainWalker


yessir it is, just got the painting done this morning. Thanks


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Post by: Red Harvest


One month to go folks. Y'all can make it.

Nice favela, Cleatus.

Terrainwalker, I think you can always spoil attachments, although you may need to sandwich them between a word of text... {spoiler}Word. Attachments. Word{/spoiler} Give it a try. Now I have to see what Fuze-It is.

Looks like folks are building tall. Excellent. Taller is better.


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Post by: TerrainWalker


@RedHarvest - I don't see how to do it if I use the "attachments" button. only If I've linked from my gallery. Seems that images uploaded directly to the message will not spoiler. I went ahead and deleted attachments and linked from gallery for the sake of future generations of terraincomp browsers

As for FuzeIt...that stuff is the stickiest goop I've found. stays a little flexible when cured. I use it more for prop building that terrain, but good to have on hand. A little on the pricey side as well.


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Post by: kestral


In my ongoing effort to use every cardboard technique I can think of: You can emboss cardboard with a rounded punch. So here's a door:

Start with two sheets of cereal box cardboard glued together:



Score your design on to it carefully after priming grey:





Ready for use. It slides into a space between the wall and the floor. You can ink wash it and drybrush it since it is a 3D design and done very easily.



Another good use is layers of cardboard to give some three dimensionality to blank areas of a design like so:



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Post by: Camkierhi


Excellent Kestral, and helpful.

TerrainWalker, no worries, got your entry in and looking brilliant, so I think that makes it two, Maniac nmt I think has finished, though would like a PM to confirm.

February to go, all looking very promising and great competition, thank you guys.


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Post by: TerrainWalker


Good technique Kestral. Any trouble embosssing curved lines? I guess maybe it would depend on how much "grain" the card has..


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Post by: Maniac_nmt


I do owe a pm with final photos. I will try and get that out this week


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Post by: kestral


Curved lines can be embossed, it is harder but doable.


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Post by: Morhgoz


 Viktor von Domm wrote:


. so a statue to honour cardboard would be hilarious but rules wise fully acceptable...


Statue you saiy? Cardboard? Toilet rolls? Challenge accepted!


I use card board about everything, from buildings to vehicles. Plasticard is too expensive and cardboard is more easily worked to diffrent shapes.


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Post by: TerrainWalker


@Morhgoz: Just a thought - for cheap plasticard, I get yard signs form the big box stores. It's just sheet styrene - so same thing as the super expensive plasticard. My store has 3 different thicknesses. I think it's 1.99 for a 12"x16" sign.

Only downside is that it can be harder to find the really thin or really thick stuff. Worth a look at least.


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Post by: Morhgoz


 TerrainWalker wrote:
@Morhgoz: Just a thought - for cheap plasticard, I get yard signs form the big box stores. It's just sheet styrene - so same thing as the super expensive plasticard. My store has 3 different thicknesses. I think it's 1.99 for a 12"x16" sign.

Only downside is that it can be harder to find the really thin or really thick stuff. Worth a look at least.


Cardboard is free. Anykind of plasticard I would have to order online, at least if I want it cheap. Local craft store or DIY stores don't sell any...

And we use wooden yard signs here in FInland...


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Post by: Morhgoz


I was planning, first, just do either some imperial statue vandaliced by orks or ork watchtower made out of Warhound's head, but then I decided why not do imperial statue vandaliced and turned to watchtover?



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Post by: bbb


dsteingass, where are those windows from?


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Post by: Maniac_nmt


I've sent in my pm with a link to photos. Let me know if they are okay or if you would like some different ones.


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Post by: Camkierhi


I am happy enough, but waiting to here if the other judges want more, great work, so that is 2 entries in definately, how we going people, got a couple weeks yet. All still welcome.


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Post by: inmygravenimage


Sigh. Struggling, but getting there!


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Post by: Red Harvest


¡Ánimo, Graven! You'll do it. Still plenty of time folks. you all can make it.

As a general rule, 4 photos in which one can see the front, r. side, l. side, and back are a minimum to make a good presentation. A top view is also nice, and close-ups of any details which one thinks will merit special attention. And oh yes, VERY IMPORTANT, all the photos need to be IN FOCUS. Apologies for the shouty-shouty.



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Post by: Viktor von Domm


I am currently involved in a "Faschings-"costume for my son Oskar (he's a sith...) and then we're about to celebrate the birthday of my other son Felix (11)...it will be a nerf battle themed party...I will try to build some stuff for that event...

After that I will jump to the painting of everything I've already built...so I still plan on finishing my entries...*fingers crossed*


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Post by: dsteingass


 bbb wrote:
dsteingass, where are those windows from?


The windows were a sampler bag from Grandt Line http://www.grandtline.com/products/arch/quarter/quarter_scale_architectural_windows.html a Model Railroad supplier.

I am most likely, NOT going to be able to finish in time. Things literally just went crazy.


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Post by: inmygravenimage


Right, progress:

Plastic sprue AND mdf sprue

And started to build up the "face"

Joy of cereal packets!


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Post by: Cleatus


OK, I think the build is done.











Now to paint. Paint like the wind!


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Post by: TerrainWalker


Looking good cleatus and graven!


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Post by: Ruglud


I've got two hopes of finishing my entry - one of those is 'Bob'...

My hobby life for the next 8 weeks is solely dedicated to the world of costumes - namely Ironman (for my son) and a Stormtrooper (for me). I'm fairly certain though that what I was going to build will resurface in another round of this comp...


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Post by: Red Harvest


Costumes... or Cosplay? Do try and finish your entry Ruglud. You've still plenty of time.


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Post by: Guildenstern


I am almost done....

a couple things I'm trying to complete - signage out front, soe small items etc

Should make it, as the bulk of the work is done now.

crosses fingers.

Assuming I don't get the flu. Again.


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Post by: TerrainWalker


Ugh, I feel ya Guilden..we got some form of some virus this weekend. Went from sore throat to headache and fever to gallons of snot...no fun and not productive time...hope you and everyone stays well


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Post by: dsteingass


For scale (and leftover bitz) purposes, I just built the Fortified Manor kit. My cardboard concoction is completely out of scale.

I'd go back to the drawing board, but it's just too late


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Post by: Maniac_nmt


Your lego cup for your pens/tools is awesome.


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Post by: inmygravenimage


Lego is the supreme stuff holder

Rivetting times:



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Post by: Vermis


I'm a bit late to jump in on this, but it's great to see all the creativity, and it got bumped at just the right time - when we got a good look at the new deathworld terrain.

A quick scribble for a type of venus mantrap:



And the card:

Spoiler:


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Post by: Viktor von Domm


Just to show you lot that I am still mingling and mugging about...I give you "turds"tm....




Of course a mere Base coat, and I am atm working on more appropriate look^^

Cheers, vik


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Post by: Red Harvest


Vik, good progress. Is that a purple basecoat? Intriguing...

Vermis, welcome aboard. I am 100% positive that you can do better than the new The Games Workshop™ Deathworld® terrain. Conveying something organic using cardboard sounds very interesting, and a bit challenging.

 inmygravenimage wrote:
Lego is the supreme stuff holder

Indeed. Legos have many uses beyond firing a child's imagination.



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Post by: dsteingass


Heh, thanks- It's actually molded together, and quite waterproof.


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Post by: Cleatus


inmygravenimage, keep going! You can do eeeet!

Vermis, welcome to the party. There's still time, go go go!

Viktor von Domm, looking good.

My own progress is stalled. Not for lack of desire, but outside complications. (Work, and other drama.) I am determined to carve out some time to finish. I will finish. I owe it to the little Grots. They need somewhere to sleep.


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Post by: TerrainWalker


Aggggh! Hit the jackpot dumpster diving at my local art store. Found stacks and stacks of 2-5mm card and a bunch of heavy weight paper, metallic cardstock and a stack of foamboard...right after the card terrain competition is over.

Ready for next time :p


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Post by: inmygravenimage


Over? You've got 9 days?! Although I'm going to struggle to finish painting for then


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Post by: TerrainWalker


Haha typo - right after my entry is finished :p

Also, you can doooo itttttttt


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Post by: inmygravenimage



I hope so, but I won't be able to get primed till Wednesday at the earliest...


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Post by: Ruglud


 Red Harvest wrote:
Costumes... or Cosplay? Do try and finish your entry Ruglud. You've still plenty of time.


Is there a difference? Searching for cosplay brings up all sorts of images (many being NSFW)

Some great work though going on in here, this round is really pushing folk to further their terrain making techniques it seems


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Post by: Cleatus


I have a mid-term exam on the 27th. That's awkward. I knew that was coming up, but it was one of those 'back of my mind' things. Figured I had another week. When I'm not studying I guess I'll be painting. Hope the wife understands.


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Post by: kestral


Those plants are neat. I do think Death World forests is a cool concept, hopefully we'll see more really cool alien plants.

The bridge is coming along with bullet holes, the odd skull, and bits of trash being added. I'm breaking out a piece of sprue I've been saving because it is cool:



It is going to be a lattice of pipe on the side.


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Post by: Guildenstern


@Red Harvest - indeedy Legos are awesome - they make excellent caltrops for burglars (seriously, it's like.. the only room in our house that didn't get robbed a couple years ago when we were broken into)
@Vermis - oooh looking sweet - did you draw that?? It's awesome! I have to say I do NOT like the Death World Forest models :( and I usually love all GW Terrain. I'd rather have something like you drew!
@Terrain Walker - omg dude you literally gave my heart a jump scare >< I'm still trying to finish my entry up lmao


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Post by: Camkierhi


All looking amazing, great use of materials being seen, and such a great variety.

@TW that is typical.

@ all those still slogging on, take heart, if you need a little extra time, this is a possibility. We can discuss this over the next couple days.


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Post by: inmygravenimage


I could certainly do with an extra week, tbh, though the cupola has begun:

Trying something completely new for the painting of this: to achieve layered, peeling rust, there is no primer and just a base coat of orange. It's painted black inside the transparent plastic and I'm gong to start layering over. No idea if it will work but, hey, that's what we're here for, eh? One has to push oneself I'm going to try some salt weathering on the main tower, also.


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Post by: Red Harvest


 Ruglud wrote:
 Red Harvest wrote:
Costumes... or Cosplay? Do try and finish your entry Ruglud. You've still plenty of time.


Is there a difference? Searching for cosplay brings up all sorts of images (many being NSFW)

Some great work though going on in here, this round is really pushing folk to further their terrain making techniques it seems

Apparently, yes. Here's a bit of an explanation courtesy of Adam Savage



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Post by: Maniac_nmt


Looking forward to seeing the finished pieces. There are some ambitious and nice looking pieces in the works. Don't toss in the towel.


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Post by: Cleatus


Progress!








Just keep painting, just keep painting, just keep painting, painting, painting...


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Post by: Guildenstern


Very nice Cleatus!! Love it

I so need to do some ork terrain.

After my remaining swamp pieces. My malifaux western stuff. My dwarf stuff..... arrrgh so little time so many ideas!!

Err, and how long do we have now??

I'm almost done, trying to put finishing touches on but it's not quite where I want it ><


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Post by: Camkierhi


So much promise in that piece Cleatus, great work.

Great work from everyone.

Well I need your feedback, I do not want anyone to relax or step off the gas, but does anyone have an issue with the comp going until next Sunday night Midnight, (05/03/2017) That would give people a full week with 2 weekends to finish up. I like to finish on a weekend.

Need your thoughts on this.


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Post by: inmygravenimage


That would certainly help mine is now primed and started but RL went utterly to crud last week (bloody kids) so any hope that I'll be done this weekend is slim.


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Post by: Cleatus


Yes, that would be helpful.


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Post by: Guildenstern


 Camkierhi wrote:
So much promise in that piece Cleatus, great work.

Great work from everyone.

Well I need your feedback, I do not want anyone to relax or step off the gas, but does anyone have an issue with the comp going until next Sunday night Midnight, (05/03/2017) That would give people a full week with 2 weekends to finish up. I like to finish on a weekend.

Need your thoughts on this.


That would help me!



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Post by: Viktor von Domm


for that extra amount of time!


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Post by: kestral


Just about done myself - these are probably my last WIP shots:



The steam pipes running up the side of the bridge. It is the custom of local youth to climb on them and hang prayer strips as a sort of rite of passage. Occasionally one is horribly burned of course, but the imperium is about the collective not the individual.



Naturally criminals who commit crimes nearby wind up with their heads on pikes on the bridge.



By tradition, all Pentegrad Bridges feature a Lion theme to commemorate when the Celestial Lions chapter held the western bridges for twenty days during Waaghh Mudstompa thereby saving the city.

For my last technique, I am going to attempt to scratch build a stiltwalker fishing under the bridge with a net. I'll be using the "Tissue paper soaked in glue to make rags" trick.









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Post by: Cleatus


Hey hey hey! This competition is really bringing out some creativity.
kestral, that looks creepy and awesome.
inmygravenimage, the paint really ties it all together.

Challenge accepted, gentlemen. Making progress myself. Pushing hard. Paint!!!


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Post by: Llamahead


Good to hear about the extension as I'm getting some extra gubbins done. Collapsed Rubble, Stairs and a Well.....


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Post by: Cleatus


Made some more progress:

Additional pics in my P&M blog.


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Post by: Maniac_nmt


I didn't make this for the competition, but was inspired to start this because of the competition. The beginning to my Late Roman Villa.

Spoiler:


A couple other photos here:

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/474587.page

Warbases does a similar model that inspired the general design, that I will branch out on based on the villa at Chedworth:

https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/chedworth-roman-villa

Can I just say I miss weekends in the UK? I REALLY miss the incredible amount of sites within 1-2 hours drive from Royal Wootton Bassett. Living back in Utah, everything is so darn far away. The mountains are nice, but I miss all the historical sites.


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Post by: Dr H


Inspiration is one of the main aims of these contests. Good to see it bear fruit, 'nmt.

Great progress everyone.


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Post by: inmygravenimage


Looking great one and all. Ironically, I think I'll be finished by tomorrow after all


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Post by: Cleatus


Working on checks, dags, and graffiti.


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Post by: Camkierhi


Well I am making it official. You have until Sunday night. When I get up on Monday, I want an inbox full of cardboard wonderment.

Rawson, Red Harvest and myself will collate results as quick as possible after that.


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Post by: kestral


Love the Grot Town, especially the way it piles up on itself. And that villa is pretty sweet!


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Post by: Cleatus


 Camkierhi wrote:
Well I am making it official. You have until Sunday night. When I get up on Monday, I want an inbox full of cardboard wonderment.

Rawson, Red Harvest and myself will collate results as quick as possible after that.


Aye, aye, Cam.

EDIT:

Looking back, I see that you had not officially extended the deadline, only asked if it would help to have it extended. Oops. My/our bad. Thank you for the extra time!


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Post by: Camkierhi


How you all doing then, last day. Good luck all.


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Post by: Cleatus


Almost there! Almost there!!!

Currently weather here is 51.0°F (11°C), 58% humidity. Spray varnish, here I come!


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Post by: Viktor von Domm


I hang my head in shame, lately my hobby mojo is slims to none...the initial building phase was good, but then so many other stuff needed doing and meanwhile my desk got stuffed full with junk and I couldn't generate the energy to clean it...thus my entry is sadly not finished...sorry Cam, great theme, but I failed nevertheless...


Good luck to all with enough power to finish theirs!!! You deserve respect!

Cheers, vik


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Post by: Llamahead


Finish? Uh no but I got my entry in. There's still a lot I'd like to add to it but it's a good solid start.


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Post by: Red Harvest


 Viktor von Domm wrote:
...lately my hobby mojo is slims to none...

I have been having the same problem. The mojo will return. It always does.

Good luck to all. There are so many fantastic entries here. Judging will be a challenge. And I would not want it any other way


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Post by: Viktor von Domm


I am very anxious to see the final entries...for my own interest especially cleatus piece...sooooo flufffyyy^^


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Post by: Guildenstern


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

I forgot to take pictures!

I will um do that now.

lmao


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Post by: Cleatus


DONE!

Cam, PM sent.

Good luck, everyone!


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Post by: Camkierhi


The Final line up

Well thank you all for a great contest we have some amazing entries and some great work that did not quite make it, but there is always next time for them.

Without further ado, here is the final entry list in no particular order.

TerrainWalker: The Building.

Spoiler:








Maniac_nmt: Oriental home.

Spoiler:






Inmygravenimage: Shreck'd

15 years since the bicentennial, he found it hard to believe that all that remained of the temple of avarice that was Shreck's was its iconic tower.
"What's the matter, Batman?" purred a voice from above, "I know that it's not because I've got your tongue." He ignored Selina, who preened within the ruined cat-cupola like some bizarre Shakespearean inversion, instead on the hunched shadow that emerged, framed by the flickering light.
"Nyah! This is private property, see!"
A step forward; the Penguin half-stepped back, "Nyah. But, the view's free. For old time's sake, eh?"
And the three of them stood, on the brink, gazing into a city of hope and ruin.

Spoiler:


Trying to embrace the quasi-festive theme, there's a sign for the Gotham Bicentennial on the building also (plus, Batman Returns is one of the greatest Xmas movies ever )




I enjoyed decorating this appropriately. I tried a few new techniques, too: layered up kitchen roll with pva and paint to make the flaking white on the cat, and used Humbrol Rust Red weathering powder in a couple of ways (dusted, combined with tamiya mud stick, and with VJ smoke) to add some depth to the crud.


I always imagine domes made of copper, and this gave some nice colour contrast to the piece as a whole.


A lego blog I was reading pointed out that builds often neglect undersides, and it occurred to me that, from a model's eye view, that's very important. So I made a point of rivetting, as well as weathering, below the cupola.


Numerous references in the many posters and graffiti.


Went a bit 4th wall here with the Deadpool poster also pleased how the wanted poster turned out.


Functioning, flickering light.




Lots of fun with graffiti




Kestrel: the bridge.

Spoiler:






Please check his gallery lots of pics.
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Llamahead: 100 piece Dungeon set.

Spoiler:

and a set up using every piece

Three types of detail have been added.
A Well room

Doors (lollipop sticks) and Rock Falls. (Model Railway Ballast over styrene and polystyrene papier machied


Heres some inhabited shots as well





Cleatus: Shanty town.

Links to pictures in gallery here:
https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-81837-54633_Loer%20Comp%2021.html

Fluff:
Somewhere there is a band of Gretchin who have managed to assemble a little encampment for themselves. They have managed to loot and weld together a town of sorts, where the Grotz live, play, sell, trade, steal, eat, and sleep. Gretchin from all clans are welcome here, though it is a bit crowded. A favorite past time of the Grot residents is sliding down the corrugated roofs of the various shanty dwellings. As is typical of Orkoid culture and logic, domestic housing and fast food establishments co-exist side by side with toxic waste pipelines and smokestacks which belch black smoke night and day. The Grotz care not. This is their home, and if necessary they will defend it to the death!

About the build:
The Grot Shanty Town is made almost entirely out of card stock and cardboard. Silly straws and a little bit of balsa wood were also used (supporting the roof of the lookout tower). It was painted with craft paints (DecoArt Americana, Folk
Art Plaid, Delta Ceramcoat), with the addition of some shades and washes (Nuln Oil, Agrax Earthshade, etc.). The base is cardboard (2 layers), textured with spackle. I used a few decals, but all of the graffiti is freehand. The final piece measures 6"x6" square, and 5" tall.

Guildenstern: The Cheese shop.


^^ view of the Front, with flower box (deserts are not noted for being kind to flowers!)
Spoiler:


^^ closer view of the Outhouse, providing comfort and, well a place to go, for customers!

^^ View of the Back, with tumbleweed

^^ Say Cheese! A large assortment of cheddar cheese wheels, as well as gremlin pet food (don't ask), colas (indeterminate type *wink*), poison (because it IS Malifaux), and general goods [the colas are my sprue bits]

More Cheese - towards front of the store.

View of inside, without the walls (for gaming purposes, I made sure I could take the 'house' off and the 'roof')
img]http://www.forgottenplanet.com/guildenstern/MalifauxCheeseShop8.jpg[/img]
^^ Closer view of the Shelf

^^ View of how I put the roof together




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Post by: stonned_astartes


All brilliant models good work.


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Post by: Dr H


Well done everyone. Lots of good work done.

I was so close to actually starting something for this round, one of these days...


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Post by: Camkierhi


Well the judging is well under way, but very very hard, you all did so well.

I have had to ask a special guest secret judge to help out.

Trust me guys I hate this, it is so hard.

Will get you some results soon.

If you have not already please make sure you and every last living soul you know has voted in the public vote. yes get your granny to create a Dakka Dakka account to be able to vote.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
The Results are in.

First a few words.
The aim of these competitions is not the competition, it is the getting together, the challenge to yourself to do or try something new, all in a great welcoming environment. If you don't finish, it is OK, I hope you stay with us for the ride, but at least you probably got some stuff out and looked at it, you thought about how you could do something differently to the norm.

I am very proud to be a member of this League, and seeing the wonders that are produced is very much an honour to be among you all.

Now the aim of this round was to produce a piece of terrain highlighting cardboard. There are many other silly little criteria, but the aim was to see what you could come up with something different using a material that a lot of us take for granted. All the entries used and abused the material well, and I know I have learned a few new tricks. I am very genuine when I say that all the finalists did amazing work, the level of effort and skill on display is fantastic. Judging this has been incredibly difficult. We had to ask another ultimate judge for help. dsteingass stepped up for us and has helped, so you have been judged by the founder here people, feel the honour.

On that note I want to thank all the judges, many PM's. Much head scratching, I am balding I know that.

In the end we do have a winner.

Cleatus: Shanty town.

Links to pictures in gallery here:
https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-81837-54633_Loer%20Comp%2021.html
Spoiler:

Fluff:
Somewhere there is a band of Gretchin who have managed to assemble a little encampment for themselves. They have managed to loot and weld together a town of sorts, where the Grotz live, play, sell, trade, steal, eat, and sleep. Gretchin from all clans are welcome here, though it is a bit crowded. A favorite past time of the Grot residents is sliding down the corrugated roofs of the various shanty dwellings. As is typical of Orkoid culture and logic, domestic housing and fast food establishments co-exist side by side with toxic waste pipelines and smokestacks which belch black smoke night and day. The Grotz care not. This is their home, and if necessary they will defend it to the death!

About the build:
The Grot Shanty Town is made almost entirely out of card stock and cardboard. Silly straws and a little bit of balsa wood were also used (supporting the roof of the lookout tower). It was painted with craft paints (DecoArt Americana, Folk
Art Plaid, Delta Ceramcoat), with the addition of some shades and washes (Nuln Oil, Agrax Earthshade, etc.). The base is cardboard (2 layers), textured with spackle. I used a few decals, but all of the graffiti is freehand. The final piece measures 6"x6" square, and 5" tall.



This piece is perfectly in keeping with the contest, you really pushed yourself here Cleatus, Well done sir.

2nd Place goes to inmygravenimage with Shreck'd.
Again a brilliant piece.

Public vote is still open, please make sure you vote.
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/719936.page

If people want feedback please just ask.

This was really close guys you all did so well. I would be honoured to play on any of the terrain produced this round.

Now please join us in the next round, over to you Cleatus.

PS distinct lack of Rivets around here lately!


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Post by: Dr H


Hey Look everyone! The results are out!


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Post by: Viktor von Domm


The judges awarded both of my favorites! Congrats to both of You! Now I expect something breathtakingly fresh for the next competition...

As for the court of judges...thanks for the time to pummel your brains in the task of making the final decisions...

And thanks cam , that was an old school comp theme, and classy as hell!!!


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Post by: dsteingass


Congratulations Riveters! A contest well-done! It was a pleasure !


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Post by: inmygravenimage


Awesome, well done Cleatus, a worthy addition to our ranks indeed! I for one would like a breakdown of score/ feedback, and am happy for it to be public. And thanks to the judges, and Cam especially onwards comrades!


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Post by: Cleatus


Wow, you guys, I'm honored!


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Post by: TerrainWalker


Congrats!! well done all who finished. I'll take a copy of the butchery of my stuff as well


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Post by: Dr H


Congratulations winners and finalists (just finishing something is a win in my book).

Just some brief comments from me this time (I was supposed to be competing...):
TW: Nice shape. Great paintwork as expected. Nice textures. Not sure what it is; no obvious (or less obvious) clues to it's purpose. While not overly important, I do like a story to be shown in a model.

Maniac_nmt: Nice design. I like the roof texture. Can't see anything from a quick look over to critique. Maybe some props (towels, washing...) to go with the tub of water. That also reminds me of something similar I made recently:
Spoiler:


Graven': I believe I commented over in your thread when you finished it. Looks great. Nice work on the weathering.

Kestral: Nice functional piece. Good design. Nice use of the sprue part. The base blue areas look a little plain when compared to the rest of the model. You could go so far as the add smooth blending and shading over those areas, or just add a little texture with some quick and gentle dry-brushing.

Llamahead: Full marks for volume and usability. The simple design of the texture works well. Shame you couldn't keep them flat (curse of the glue cure). Maybe try keeping them under a large pile of books to see if that straightens them out.

Cleatus: Great design. Fun piece. The metals look nice too. Congratulations.

Guildenstern: Notwithstanding the Python reference. I like the design and especially the floor. Only thing I can think to add is the swept/raked effect on the sand in front of the outhouse where the door would have scraped over it. Nice wood colouration you have too. I'll let Red' critique your roofing design...

Well done all, again.
Eyes peeled for the next round.


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Post by: Red Harvest


We got 30 votes in the poll. That's a nice amount.

Congratulations to all, especially Cleatus. All the entries were outstanding, and it was an honor to be a judge this round.

I'll see about some commentary later tonight when I get home, and have a chance to review my notes and spreadsheet (yes, a spreadsheet. I find them addictive. I've been using them since Lotus 123.) I'm just now heading that way. What a strange week this has been. Again. It's nearly 70 F outside.



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Post by: TerrainWalker


 Dr H wrote:
Not sure what it is; no obvious (or less obvious) clues to it's purpose. While not overly important, I do like a story to be shown in a model.


Uh oh! looks like I forgot my fluff. The gist of it was that the building was a lead-wrapped storage/containment facility for radioactive materials...so 2x the hazard (see lead/rad signs). The setting is near-future and the scale is 28mm. the building itself is probably the equivalent of a 2.5-3 story building. also may have forgotten to post my WIP with the building materials...I'll have to check for that.

@Guildenstern - somehow missed the interior shots of yours. Love all the little things!

Also, as graven said, public comments are good.


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Post by: dsteingass


I have to admit my secret...I SUCK at judging. I had 4 people tied for 2nd place. That's just not sustainable, but you guys ALL rocked this round!


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Post by: Cleatus


I'm working on a theme for the next round. Got a few ideas brewing.


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Post by: stonned_astartes


Well done and give it plenty of thought.


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Post by: Camkierhi


OK I don’t normally do this myself, but have to admit how much the critique has helped me in the past, so here we go again just in any old order….

TerrainWalker
This is a beautiful piece, so well painted and a table full of this would be a truly awesome sight. My only comments would be, you could maybe add some vegetation or more posters. OK I know it is an industrial building and not really a derelict, but it feels safe. You can churn these out all day long, I know you can because you do, they are each wonderful pieces, to a very high standard, and there is nothing really “wrong” with this. Others just pushed that personal envelope a little further.

Maniac_nmt
So pretty, and wonderfully modelled. And yet again I would say nothing “wrong” with the piece. Maybe I could say the building is “clean”, a bit of dirt/weathering to the wooden frame, the white is very clean too. But I am being picky. You guys can see where we are with this, we had to get down to very fine nit-picking, and to say that someone is better than this is really hard. I have also seen your other work, and again (though you tried new things) this is in your comfort zone to a degree, your work is beautiful.

Inmygravenimage
Yet again a beautiful piece, really well thought out in game terms, a great theme, in the nature of constructive criticism, either the flash did not help you with the weathering paint finish or we need to have a chat, it is brilliant and well thought out, but when I have to get really picky, it looks a little unnatural. TW’s has a very natural feel to it. You know just how picky we have to be to separate you guys, and you know I am being crazy picky to say that, it is a brilliant piece and well deserving of the podium.

Kestral
Stunning, every time I look at it, it is stunning. And again to say that there is anything “wrong” with it is an injustice, you really tried with different techniques and stretching yourself. My only words would be maybe..”Maybe” it is quite clean for a grimdark civilian bridge. And if I am being hyper critical, your walls look a little thin. But that is the whole 40k is thicker than anything else thing really. They are probably a truer scale than mine.

Llamahead
You dared to be different, and got extra for it. Brilliant work, lots of hard work too. Mass production is difficult. To be hyper picky, although you tried to vary it a little it is very much “samey” and variety is the spice of something or other. The only other comment would be one word “warped”, not sure why in particular but it is there and as we have to be very picky to separate all these great entries it matters.

Guildenstern
Wonderful. Like so many of you, a real brilliant piece, lovely atmosphere. And like the others nothing “wrong” here, but the two small points that made any difference to me were, wall paper hung sidey ways, and the interior is very very clean, I now you could argue well it is a food shop and should be clean, but I am fairly certain that the universe where this wonderful shop is, does not have health inspectors (only our RL world is stupid enough for that) a broom in the corner with a little dust about it would have helped to explain the cleanliness.

Cleatus

The deciding factor in the end was how much you pushed yourself with this. Everyone produced work I would be proud of and tried very hard, it just feels you tried to push your personal envelope a little further. Now you need to work on your weathering a little and I personally like to see more colour in my graffffiiiittttiiii. Poor grots obviously only had a pot of white wash.

Now please do not take anything to heart here, and please accept this in the way it is meant, to help you for the future. These are all great pieces, and thank you so much for competing in our silly competition. Please keep trying.

Oh and lastly, not seeing many rivets lately. I understand that you feel they may not fit every aesthetic, however bonuses are to be had for inventive ways to incorporate some.

Thank you all, hope to see you in the next round.