Very cool, I'd like to see more of these done (though they continue to wildly undermine the silly prices of GW for single mono-pose characters).
I'd like to see some which I could actually use. The last range didn't really have anything I wanted. They could have struck gold if they had done a series with a custom model from various races too...
The GW community site also mentioned that they are trying to work out how to get people outside of Japan access and to keep an eye on the 40k facebook page for more info
The quality looked quite good from what I saw, but yes they were simply novelties.
What made me laugh though is they were nicely done mono-pose plastic single figures...yet oddly selling for a mere fraction of what a similar $35-40 "Character" sells for in 40K, where GW constantly states it's a cost result of manufacturing, etc.
Adeptus Doritos wrote: Was the quality on these things worth having someone hunt them down? I saw them, and they didn't look like anything special, more a novelty.
I got a box--two full sets--one for my son's Xmas present, another set for myself. That's a dozen unique individuals, quite detailed and all posed more dynamically than a standard tactical marine. At the end of the day, though, they are still Space Marines, which is why I haven't gotten past assembling one of them.
I'm continually amazed that I'm actually in Japan but I have to travel to Singapore as the closest gw shop. Utterly bizarre they don't put a store in Okinawa...you know the place with 50,000 American military men that love their products.
Kirasu wrote: I'm continually amazed that I'm actually in Japan but I have to travel to Singapore as the closest gw shop. Utterly bizarre they don't put a store in Okinawa...you know the place with 50,000 American military men that love their products.
If you don’t mind paying WAY too much, there is a shop in American Village that sells GW stuff. I can’t remember the name but I think it had “dragon” in it.
Kirasu wrote: I'm continually amazed that I'm actually in Japan but I have to travel to Singapore as the closest gw shop. Utterly bizarre they don't put a store in Okinawa...you know the place with 50,000 American military men that love their products.
If you don’t mind paying WAY too much, there is a shop in American Village that sells GW stuff. I can’t remember the name but I think it had “dragon” in it.
Issue isnt really with buying things, since we all have "US addresses" via the post office but the confusion over why GW doesn't put a store where there is a virtual captive audience that already knows and plays their games... rather than chase the market on main land which has them as the "foreigner" and the people are in tiny homes and like anime figurines a lot more!
Elbows wrote: What made me laugh though is they were nicely done mono-pose plastic single figures...yet oddly selling for a mere fraction of what a similar $35-40 "Character" sells for in 40K, where GW constantly states it's a cost result of manufacturing, etc.
You know these weren't made by GW, though? And were intended for completely different market?
Kirasu wrote: rather than chase the market on main land which has them as the "foreigner" and the people are in tiny homes and like anime figurines a lot more!
Uh, you are aware that anime is fringe in Japan? It's nowhere near as popular, as, say, models, and Japan companies produce models of literally everything, even 1:1 replicas of actual firearms and historical/SF/fantasy kits easily as good as best western ones. Ever heard of Tamiya? Aoshima? Hasegawa? Kyosho? Trying to introduce 40K as SF kits for that public makes a lot of sense...
The first series was nice but not special enough to go to the effort of tracking them down (if they get released over here I'll snap them up) but I love me some terminators so I'll be after these guys.
The paints are 4600. Or are the paints the same price as the figures? The sign on the right is too blurry.
I'm curious about the paint set too. Can't read what's included in it.
Site hasn't been updated for the new series yet either. Makes me sad when I see the closest store is about an hour and a half local train ride just to a Yodobashi Camera that may or may not actually bother to carry these.
I'll be there in June, but I don't they'll release that quick. I'll keep my eyes peeled regardless.
Galas wrote: Hmm... will this series be able to peak Space Hulk's Terminators, the best terminators miniatures ever made by GW?
The fact they have dynamic poses and are generic already gives them a leg up on the Space Hulk terminators for everyone but Blood Angels players (or people willing to devote tons of time customizing the SH Terminators). As a Blood Angels players, I would still lean toward the SH Terminators. But for my Crimson Fists or Deathwatch, these look pretty darn good.
Does anyone know how widely available these are in Japan?
I tried talking to GW but they couldn't even give me an answer if they were able to mail order them from a Japan GW store to an address in Japan.
Uh, you are aware that anime is fringe in Japan? It's nowhere near as popular, as, say, models, and Japan companies produce models of literally everything, even 1:1 replicas of actual firearms and historical/SF/fantasy kits easily as good as best
What applies to mainland Japan doesn't really apply to Okinawa. That's why I specified, since we have a massive American military presence which loves all types of wargames.
Does anyone know how widely available these are in Japan?
No idea how widely availble these terminators will be, but I only ever saw the blue marines from the first series in one toy shop. That shop carried GW products and a large number of japanese plastic kit lines, though the blind-buy marines weren't displayed in the same part of the shop as all the other plastic kit related stuff.
I didn't see the series one marines in any of the big electronics retailers which often also carry plastic kit lines, so I think their availability was quite limited. Certainly much more limited than equivalent "shokugan" or "gachapon" lines from japanese kit companies.
I live in Saitama and I saw the marines in the toy section of my big local electronics store, so some stores do carry them. They are by no means everywhere. GW is still a very small hobby here.
I think I prefer those to the Space Hulk terminators to be honest, they're more realistic (less bling) and although I'd need a side by side to see it looks like the proportions have been updated slightly as the power armoured ones were.
Terminators with dynamic, but not over the top poses, no over done bling, and no molded on faction symbols? Yeah, I'm going to have to have my brother pick up some of these for me. I don't see a release date placard though.
Play-asia allowed you to import them last time round so I guess will do this lot too (I didn't but I've used them for other Japanese kit stuff... as with all importing be prepared to pay your appropriate local taxes)
They still have shoulders level with their ears, eh?
Anyway, what is that model in the box with paints? The shape looks quite cape-like, a Captain? Or is it just the banner photographed at odd angle making it look non-rectangular?
Irbis wrote:They still have shoulders level with their ears, eh?
Anyway, what is that model in the box with paints? The shape looks quite cape-like, a Captain? Or is it just the banner photographed at odd angle making it look non-rectangular?
It's just the banner bearet. Maybe there'll be a "secret" Captain figure like series 1 had, though.
Stormonu wrote:Y’know, I think the only marine model I don’t have is a terminator w/ cyclone launcher?
Aren’t these a little larger than the normal models? Are they primaries-sized or otherwise look out of place beside normal GW models?
These are NOT bigger than the regular kits. They are not in a different scale. There was an argument about this in the series 1 thread that went on for several pages because people were under the mistaken assumption that the figures were bigger despite me posting photographic evidence to the contrary all because someone made a joke about them being Primaris sized. It's kind of annoying to see this belief is still going around.
Irbis wrote:They still have shoulders level with their ears, eh?
Anyway, what is that model in the box with paints? The shape looks quite cape-like, a Captain? Or is it just the banner photographed at odd angle making it look non-rectangular?
It's just the banner bearet. Maybe there'll be a "secret" Captain figure like series 1 had, though.
Stormonu wrote:Y’know, I think the only marine model I don’t have is a terminator w/ cyclone launcher?
Aren’t these a little larger than the normal models? Are they primaries-sized or otherwise look out of place beside normal GW models?
These are NOT bigger than the regular kits. They are not in a different scale. There was an argument about this in the series 1 thread that went on for several pages because people were under the mistaken assumption that the figures were bigger despite me posting photographic evidence to the contrary all because someone made a joke about them being Primaris sized. It's kind of annoying to see this belief is still going around.
But then they are larger. They are not in a different scale – but they got slightly longer and bulkier legs than regular Mk7 plastic Marines which make them slightly taller, same as the Mk8 Deathwatch Kill Team models. The scenic bases add to that.
Series 1 are probably the most true scale regular Marines GW ever released. They don't mix well with regular Marine models, but in a squad of their own, they don't look out of place in an army (especially when combining with Primaris Marines).
Terminators aren't too bad but not worth the trouble of hunting them. I do regret not getting Series 1 though. If both sets will become more easily available one day, I will gladly buy them. I love the sculpted bases!
jullevi wrote: Terminators aren't too bad but not worth the trouble of hunting them. I do regret not getting Series 1 though. If both sets will become more easily available one day, I will gladly buy them. I love the sculpted bases!
totally agree. Some of the initial sculpt should be easily get in the "labyrinth of the necron" stand alone game... Any news about this one? It is not released yet, right?
I have a full set of series one for sale in the UK - including the captain - and I will likely be able to get a set or two of the Terminators too - when I visit Tokyo in February
jullevi wrote: Terminators aren't too bad but not worth the trouble of hunting them. I do regret not getting Series 1 though. If both sets will become more easily available one day, I will gladly buy them. I love the sculpted bases!
You sure seen the Terminator with the Cyclone having a Breastplate that looks like a Chaos Version but loyal with three hoses...so maybe this One is to hunt because i didnt see that loyal armor style yet with three hoses i only see them on traitor terminators (i think only One body of the lead Ones had these three hoses design)...and dont forget the crazy Captain checking his scanner with a unique pose...I think i will go for these two because i like the unique armor on the Cyclone wearer...and the cool pose on the Captain...
By the Way the guy with the lightning claws must be a real nutbuster with his pals...because he has a shooting wound on his leg...and the armor is bending outwards..not inwards...he must be shoot from the back...and the guy with the flamer has some heavy variant legs (looking like the new devastator style legs)...Damn Overall i now need to look for three of these Terminators ;-)
jullevi wrote: Terminators aren't too bad but not worth the trouble of hunting them. I do regret not getting Series 1 though. If both sets will become more easily available one day, I will gladly buy them. I love the sculpted bases!
The Terminators are far more different and unique in comparison to existing kits than series 1. Series 1 had maybe 3 figures you couldn't easily kitbash from the existing regular marine ranges (aesthetically at least, I know there's a bit of a size difference): Captain, Sergeant and Grenadier. Possibly 4 if you count the Missile Launcher guy who's kneeling on his left leg rather than right like the current pair of legs in the Devastator kit.
Tamereth wrote: The first series was nice but not special enough to go to the effort of tracking them down (if they get released over here I'll snap them up) but I love me some terminators so I'll be after these guys.
Hobby Link Japan has the set of blue Space Marines for sale:
The Cyclone Missile Launcher Terminator's face...oh god.
I almost want to get that model just for the head, purely in order to sculpt a wee man-bun on it. The question then is - which is the most hipster chapter?
Yodhrin wrote: I almost want to get that model just for the head, purely in order to sculpt a wee man-bun on it. The question then is - which is the most hipster chapter?
That would be "the Emperor's Baristas", but you probably haven't heard of them...
Is the Cyclone Termi actually smaller, or is that just a wonky scaling issue?
I almost want to get that model just for the head, purely in order to sculpt a wee man-bun on it. The question then is - which is the most hipster chapter?
You probably haven't heard of them. They're not mainstream.
I got one of these today and have to say they are quite nice. Mine is Brother Phaello but thought I'd put up some scale shots for anyone that is interested.
While the series one heads can be used on any space marine model the bare heads on these are flat on the back and designed to plug into the neck piece.
Did you drill out the barrels on the stormbolter or did they come that way? If the latter, that's interesting as the full kits rarely if ever get that treatment.
Where did you see that? I can't see it on the HLJ site. It only shows the series 1 and 2 sets.
Depending on shipping, the Terminators aren't a bad price. 6 "unique" termies for at least a 1/3 less then the cheapest regular terminator squad.
Also, a question regarding the series 1 set.
It says you get 24 models. There are 12 different sculpts + the two "secret" guys + the captain with power sword.
Do you get the captain in the big pack? Are the extra models just random double ups?
endtransmission wrote: The GW community site also mentioned that they are trying to work out how to get people outside of Japan access and to keep an eye on the 40k facebook page for more info
endtransmission wrote: The GW community site also mentioned that they are trying to work out how to get people outside of Japan access and to keep an eye on the 40k facebook page for more info
Is it that difficult for GW?
Make models, sell models.
You also have to make boxes, instructions, promotional stuff for the shelves, etc.
They may well have had to get the Japanese partner company (Max Factory) to agree to it depending on how the original contacts for the project were written as they weren't 'just' a contractor for GW as they has their name on the product too
Could have been just talking, could have been cash, could have been an agreemement to do more stuff together in the future
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: They may well have had to get the Japanese partner company (Max Factory) to agree to it depending on how the original contacts for the project were written as they weren't 'just' a contractor for GW as they has their name on the product too
Could have been just talking, could have been cash, could have been an agreemement to do more stuff together in the future
This.
If it’s a geographic exclusive, your distributor would want to maintain that exclusivity.
And if you want to expand it, but keep the same distributor partner, you want to get the best possible deal yourself.
endtransmission wrote: The GW community site also mentioned that they are trying to work out how to get people outside of Japan access and to keep an eye on the 40k facebook page for more info
Is it that difficult for GW?
Make models, sell models.
You also have to make boxes, instructions, promotional stuff for the shelves, etc.
I hadn't considered that. I was more speculating on something someone else (I think on an FB group post) has said about them being licence in Japan only, which seemed odd to me.
They're also not "40k models", in that they're not primarily sold as gaming pieces for Warhammer 40,000. They're bigger than the non-Primaris Space Marines models, and are basically display pieces.
I was lightly poking fun at those who hysterically insisted when Primaris came out that GW would never make regular space marines again
And they haven't. These are old models.
They have. These were released in September 2017, so they are newer than most Primaris models who were released a couple of months earlier.
The Series 2 terminators have just been released in Japan as well, another set of regular space marine models
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AndrewGPaul wrote: They're also not "40k models", in that they're not primarily sold as gaming pieces for Warhammer 40,000. They're bigger than the non-Primaris Space Marines models, and are basically display pieces.
Ah right, they aren't new regular space marines 'cause reasons'
They are slightly taller than regular marines, they have lengthened legs and slightly lengthened torsos. They are about the same height as a deathwatch marine. This doesn't make them not 40k models, this just represents changing paradigms of space marine model design in the GW studio.
They are entirely usable in 40k.
And they are a new non-primaris space marine release
AndrewGPaul wrote: They're also not "40k models", in that they're not primarily sold as gaming pieces for Warhammer 40,000. They're bigger than the non-Primaris Space Marines models, and are basically display pieces.
And there's no way he didn't know that, hence disingenuous.
I await the day that Marines get an actual new release.
They are obviously 40k models, and both sets are newer than wave 1 Primaris.
There was another non-primaris marine release as well after the Primaris in December 2017, Sirae Karagon and Casan Sabius, and the Culln Leviathan Dreadnought. I guess they don't count 'cause they are FW and cause reasons'?
Gabriel Angelos is also post-primaris. I guess two squads and nearly a dozen SM characters (adding blind bag captains/ancients) aren't 'actual' release, because, uhhh...
I am sorry, I lost track of goalpost-shifting excuse of the hour, pardon me
Confused, aren't series 1 meant to be on pre order this weekend? Or is it next? Nothing on the GW site, when set to NZ, Aus or the UK. And element games have them up for pre order but "not available". Most odd.
Edit: think I was being thick, these appear to be exclusive to GW stores and select other suppliers.
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ListenToMeWarriors wrote: Confused, aren't series 1 meant to be on pre order this weekend? Or is it next? Nothing on the GW site, when set to NZ, Aus or the UK. And element games have them up for pre order but "not available". Most odd.
Edit: think I was being thick, these appear to be exclusive to GW stores and select other suppliers.
Element Games has them on the website but disabled preorders until they can speak to GW on Monday as whisky they have been assigned stock it appears they are limited in how much they can order.
ValentineGames wrote: Ahh another set where the rest of the world will only get most but not all of them.
Thanks GW!
Loot Sharing Group has a man in Japan that can sort you out.
Postage stings a wee bit, but worth it,
More as a reply to ValentineGames but doesn't the new board game contain the Series 1 models that aren't part of this release? In other words, all of the models are available just not in the same way they were in Japan.
ValentineGames wrote: Ahh another set where the rest of the world will only get most but not all of them.
Thanks GW!
Loot Sharing Group has a man in Japan that can sort you out.
Postage stings a wee bit, but worth it,
More as a reply to ValentineGames but doesn't the new board game contain the Series 1 models that aren't part of this release? In other words, all of the models are available just not in the same way they were in Japan.
By new board game I assume you mean the US exclusive one?
Which I believe only has 2 of the 4 we aren't allowed to have.
Never mind that was already answered.
HOORAY FOR HALF ASSING ITGW!!!
just as this incomplete blind buy set is only for the EU not the USA
I wasn't aware that those games were not going to be available everywhere. Thank you.
I don't think they ever said they would never be available everywhere; just that they were only on sale in Germany (not "the EU") and the USA at present.
Voss wrote: I... don't get it. Why did folks want randomly packaged single space marines?
To buy and trade at school. Like football stickers, seemed strange then, but apparently this is a thing that works for people.
Kind of like gambling for kids.
The people that wanted them aren’t our target demographic though really, so it’s hard to correspond to over here.
This style of collecting is very big in Japan, much of Asia, and they have just ported it over to us.
(As have quite a few blind buy sets and things, but we’ve never had it as big and crazy as over there)
Well lots of people asked for them, and the Japanese release was in partnership with a Japanese firm so there may well have been issues about releasing the elsewhere at all
(in the same way that the FFG stuff like chaos in the old world can't be just released by GW now FFG has lost the licence)
so a blind buy release of some, and use in a boardgame of the rest might have been the best GW could do
Voss wrote: I... don't get it. Why did folks want randomly packaged single space marines?
Because blind packs are a HUGELY popular thing in Japan.
So GW has assumed everybody wants that.
Makes perfect sense right?
One countries culture loves X. So everyone wants X!!!
Yay!!!
You might want to go to closest toy store, there are literally hundreds of blind bag ranges there, of everything, starting on LEGO figs to small MLP ponies.
One country, you say?
I don't like this trend and probably won't buy these, especially seeing how stupidly low chance of getting the captain is, but pretending it's limited to Japan is quite silly...
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But GW should really do one of each of the races instead of all marines. This will give them more opportunities for distinct limited edition characters. That way it has also has something for everyone as well as keeping people hunting for the model they are after, with a bigger range of models.
Voss wrote: I... don't get it. Why did folks want randomly packaged single space marines?
Because blind packs are a HUGELY popular thing in Japan.
So GW has assumed everybody wants that.
Makes perfect sense right?
One countries culture loves X. So everyone wants X!!!
Yay!!!
You might want to go to closest toy store, there are literally hundreds of blind bag ranges there, of everything, starting on LEGO figs to small MLP ponies.
One country, you say?
I don't like this trend and probably won't buy these, especially seeing how stupidly low chance of getting the captain is, but pretending it's limited to Japan is quite silly...
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Yeah it is basically gambling, like loot boxes and collectable cards.
I think he was questioning the desirability of the chosen distribution/marketing method, not the models themselves.
Yup, I get that. My point was that people want them because they like them, not specifically that people want blind buy models... It's just the only way to get them if you want these particular models.
It looks like, may be wrong here, that the missing models are the ones found in the Space Marine Heroes board game, so that may be a reason for their omission.
BrookM wrote: It looks like, may be wrong here, that the missing models are the ones found in the Space Marine Heroes board game, so that may be a reason for their omission.
These are the ones in the Space Marine game - indeed the four missing ones (Flamer, Heavy Bolter, Auspex, and Knife guy) plus the sergeant - I guess they couldn't leave him out of the "collect them all"-collection.
Might pick up one or two just to have a little something extra to unwrap on Christmas morning.
Nice looking models at the impulse buy/stocking stuffer price point. Not going to get into them at the collectable/duplicate level, But just a few to add some spice to the shelf should be fine.
BrookM wrote: It looks like, may be wrong here, that the missing models are the ones found in the Space Marine Heroes board game, so that may be a reason for their omission.
These are the ones in the Space Marine game - indeed the four missing ones (Flamer, Heavy Bolter, Auspex, and Knife guy) plus the sergeant - I guess they couldn't leave him out of the "collect them all"-collection.
What game was that from? I can’t see it on the GW website and my Google-fu is failing me!
Irbis wrote: but pretending it's limited to Japan is quite silly...
Nice try. But that's not what I said.
Shame it wasn't something original though.
12 imperial guard officers from 12 different regiments?
12 heroes and villians of the armageddon campaign?
12 heroes and villains of the 13th black crusade?
12 lesser known Xenos species of 40k?
Yeah, a shame that they went with tried and true biggest and most recognisable, yet generic sellers for a first foray into these sets in an overseas market.
Lesser known, obscure characters would have been a much better option!
THIS sort of unrealistic, badly, or non-thought out, non-rational, personal wishlisting complaint is a perfect example of why "the internet" is treated like a joke.
Azazelx wrote: Yeah, a shame that they went with tried and true biggest and most recognisable, yet generic sellers for a first foray into these sets in an overseas market.
Lesser known, obscure characters would have been a much better option!
THIS sort of unrealistic, badly, or non-thought out, non-rational, personal wishlisting complaint is a perfect example of why "the internet" is treated like a joke.
Granted, after 2 "hero" ranges, it would be awesome to see a band of "evil" CSM as wave 3. Lord, aspiring champion, couple generics, couple of heavy and special weapons guys, and 4 generics that are marked to the 4 gods. Still marines, but got to have someone for the heroes to fight after all.
Azazelx wrote: Yeah, a shame that they went with tried and true biggest and most recognisable, yet generic sellers for a first foray into these sets in an overseas market.
Lesser known, obscure characters would have been a much better option!
THIS sort of unrealistic, badly, or non-thought out, non-rational, personal wishlisting complaint is a perfect example of why "the internet" is treated like a joke.
Granted, after 2 "hero" ranges, it would be awesome to see a band of "evil" CSM as wave 3. Lord, aspiring champion, couple generics, couple of heavy and special weapons guys, and 4 generics that are marked to the 4 gods. Still marines, but got to have someone for the heroes to fight after all.
That would be pretty awesome. I would love to see something like that. Definitely would buy a bunch for a Kill Team. But a Space Marine "Villains" range would definitely be well received, I am sure.
Azazelx wrote: Yeah, a shame that they went with tried and true biggest and most recognisable, yet generic sellers for a first foray into these sets in an overseas market.
Lesser known, obscure characters would have been a much better option!
THIS sort of unrealistic, badly, or non-thought out, non-rational, personal wishlisting complaint is a perfect example of why "the internet" is treated like a joke.
For these reasons they aren’t going to do characters, but then also for price reasons -GW charge more for characters than this, it’d be a loss for them.
(Though 12 variant guard would be cool. But it’s Space Marine Heroes, which is also how the game is recognised).
I could have seen something like this if they were a scale nowhere near usab,e in 40k they’d get around to named guys or something, but people would just buy as cheap characters, I mean look at the price of clam packs now
So I'm guessing the contents of each large box of 12 are as follows:
1 each of the 1/12 rarity
2 each of the 1/6 rarity
2 each of the 5/32 rarity, then in 1 in 3 boxes, one of those gets replaced by the 1/36 model.
So if you were to buy an entire box you'd get the whole range apart from the rare model with 3 duplicates plus a 1 in 3 chance of either another duplicate or the rare model.
Can anybody picking these up today see if the boxes have individual code numbers referencing which marine they are as Sacredroach pointed out with the Terminator set? Mine *should* be arriving today so I will report my findings.
Nope not interested in this way of collecting no matter how cool the minis are. The idea is not new here but never liked the fact of getting duplicates etc. Rather get my money worth in something else.
Sadly no individual code numbers on these. That said I am really happy with my purchase I got 7 from my online retailer of choice and only got one repeat, the missile launcher guy Brother Remus. The scenic bases on these are especially good.
I can confirm the boxes have individual codes, they’re in faded ink on the left side of the box between the veteran sergeant’s legs. I picked through three sets, found five unique codes, and when I bought and opened them they were all different marines.
So yes, don’t buy an entire box set, you will get duplicates. One of the boxes had five copies of 18253.
I mean I watched the entire un-boxing with Kitetsu or some youtube guy...what the feth is the point? You get a mono pose guy, Who cares... You can make better guys or the same with a bit of green stuff etc? The entire point of box sets like SM or Deathwatch etc is making them individual... maybe a few years to late... because now days releasing Primarius which are predominately 1 ways to be and if want more have to green stuff.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Its like the basketball card craze in the 90's, people want the individual cards etc for what?. Mates just build the normal model they look better than what you get out of it
However, If want to collect them go for it (I find it crazy)
So you can buy a multi functional squad adapted to what you want + a captain and = a mon0 pose set that can do stuff all to and maybe random get all the same guy?
I don't get the appeal either. But it is good thing that these are such unremarkable models; I would be really annoyed if models that I'd actually want were sold this way.
Crimson wrote: I don't get the appeal either. But it is good thing that these are such unremarkable models; I would be really annoyed if models that I'd actually want were sold this way.
If were actually good I would buy them. I just don't see the point. I can make the same or better models from sprues available...
Automatically Appended Next Post: some1 is gunna say for collection but unless increases in price 1000% idc (and if 10% I buy for like, I work for money)
Automatically Appended Next Post: Even if in 100 years are super rare... how much you think a plastic model is worth? Rarity is not the same as say Victorian era or before
I think we get that you don’t want them, no need to keep reminding us every other post.
Some people might like these regardless of their relative worth, is that so hard to believe? Some of them look pretty neat (I quite like the sergeant, for example).
Spectral Ceramite wrote: So you can buy a multi functional squad adapted to what you want + a captain and = a mon0 pose set that can do stuff all to and maybe random get all the same guy?
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Zero chance of randomly getting the same guy if you apply some common sense.
Insane Ivan wrote: I think we get that you don’t want them, no need to keep reminding us every other post.
Some people might like these regardless of their relative worth, is that so hard to believe? Some of them look pretty neat (I quite like the sergeant, for example).
6 Pages think have done 2 posts...Idk about constant reminder...
Was just expressing opinion of my thoughts, don't agree don't buy..bfd
I think you're missing a key factor about these figures. In Japan, 40k is, surprisingly enough, not very popular. These figures were part of a push to drive up interest in the Japanese market. Japanese collectors actually quite like the blind-box concept, so a low cost, customizable (yes, they are customizable) plastic model with more unique sculpts and poses than what you get in the regular troop box is a good way to get that increased interest.
It should also be noted that at least for the Japanese releases, these came with bio cards as well. Each figure is a unique character and every one of them comes with a unique unhelmeted head, if you were so inclined as to have an entirely bareheaded squad.
Also, the figures are quite nice. I just painted up one of the ones I picked up in Japan.
Barzam wrote: I think you're missing a key factor about these figures. In Japan, 40k is, surprisingly enough, not very popular. These figures were part of a push to drive up interest in the Japanese market. Japanese collectors actually quite like the blind-box concept, so a low cost, customizable (yes, they are customizable) plastic model with more unique sculpts and poses than what you get in the regular troop box is a good way to get that increased interest.
It should also be noted that at least for the Japanese releases, these came with bio cards as well. Each figure is a unique character and every one of them comes with a unique unhelmeted head, if you were so inclined as to have an entirely bareheaded squad.
Also, the figures are quite nice. I just painted up one of the ones I picked up in Japan.
Awesome paint job. I love going to Japan. Though I find it a bit odd some of there collecting fantasies, like in some train stations they have women's panties in a vending machines and found crazier stuff in Tokyo. Pass for me.
Never mind that, I have that exact modeled marine, except mine has a boltgun in left hand, accutally how would hold it or more individual parts and a better base (wait mine is individual) what i am paying for a stock model??? Who holds their rifle like that ever?
Never mind that, I have that exact modeled marine, except mine has a boltgun in left hand,...
Right... so you don't have that exact modeled marine. Which is precisely the appeal for many collectors: It's something slightly different.
Back when I had more disposable income, I would have bought these in a heartbeat, even though I could likely build or convert something identical - because I like having different models.
ListenToMeWarriors wrote: Blimey, you are right Changemod, there is a faded code on the side between the Sgt's legs.
Brother Remus (missile launcher) is 18255.
However, I have 2 boxes with 18256 and they contained different marines.
Other codes I got were 18257, 60 and 61.
That gave me brothers Gaiun, Castor, Garus, Titus, Promethor and the aforementioned Remus. We just have to join the dots now.
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check the number against the chance of getting each shown on the box
could well be all the 1/6's have the same code etc
I originally thought that but given that I got three of the 1/6 minis and two (well three with the 2 Remus') of the 1/12 I do not think that is the case. Could have always been a mispack?
Azazelx wrote: Yeah, a shame that they went with tried and true biggest and most recognisable, yet generic sellers for a first foray into these sets in an overseas market.
Lesser known, obscure characters would have been a much better option!
THIS sort of unrealistic, badly, or non-thought out, non-rational, personal wishlisting complaint is a perfect example of why "the internet" is treated like a joke.
For these reasons they aren’t going to do characters, but then also for price reasons -GW charge more for characters than this, it’d be a loss for them.
(Though 12 variant guard would be cool. But it’s Space Marine Heroes, which is also how the game is recognised).
I could have seen something like this if they were a scale nowhere near usab,e in 40k they’d get around to named guys or something, but people would just buy as cheap characters, I mean look at the price of clam packs now
Would it really be so unprofitable? From what I see (I don't remember fully), each blind pack costs £5. For a tactical marine. Yes, £5. Chucking in some £10-15 guys, even make them a bit rarer, mightt this not increase sales of £5 individual tactical, non-primaris marines?
Looks like different batches/cases have different unique codes for the figures so I don't know how useful this will be for anyone, but I picked 7 unique codes (and a duplicate for giggles/confirmation) and got 7 unique figures (with the duplicate I expected). I only got the one duplicate so I can't 100% confirm this, but I believe all 6 cases I went through shared the same codes. There were only 7 codes represented between all six cases, so I think it's a safe assumption.
No One Important wrote: Looks like different batches/cases have different unique codes for the figures so I don't know how useful this will be for anyone, but I picked 7 unique codes (and a duplicate for giggles/confirmation) and got 7 unique figures (with the duplicate I expected). I only got the one duplicate so I can't 100% confirm this, but I believe all 6 cases I went through shared the same codes. There were only 7 codes represented between all six cases, so I think it's a safe assumption.
Azazelx wrote: Yeah, a shame that they went with tried and true biggest and most recognisable, yet generic sellers for a first foray into these sets in an overseas market.
Lesser known, obscure characters would have been a much better option!
THIS sort of unrealistic, badly, or non-thought out, non-rational, personal wishlisting complaint is a perfect example of why "the internet" is treated like a joke.
For these reasons they aren’t going to do characters, but then also for price reasons -GW charge more for characters than this, it’d be a loss for them.
(Though 12 variant guard would be cool. But it’s Space Marine Heroes, which is also how the game is recognised).
I could have seen something like this if they were a scale nowhere near usab,e in 40k they’d get around to named guys or something, but people would just buy as cheap characters, I mean look at the price of clam packs now
Would it really be so unprofitable? From what I see (I don't remember fully), each blind pack costs £5. For a tactical marine. Yes, £5. Chucking in some £10-15 guys, even make them a bit rarer, mightt this not increase sales of £5 individual tactical, non-primaris marines?
Chucking in A character, yeah I agree, that’s like the old days of shiny rarepokemon cards or whatever.
But he was saying a character series, I was replying to that..
(I can’t imagine a box where any of 10 £15 type models could be in there, unless they made the series £15each maybe..)
No One Important wrote: Looks like different batches/cases have different unique codes for the figures so I don't know how useful this will be for anyone, but I picked 7 unique codes (and a duplicate for giggles/confirmation) and got 7 unique figures (with the duplicate I expected). I only got the one duplicate so I can't 100% confirm this, but I believe all 6 cases I went through shared the same codes. There were only 7 codes represented between all six cases, so I think it's a safe assumption.
Link is in my sig, and his post is usually somewhere near the top.
