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The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/07/31 21:41:50


Post by: thegreatchimp


What, in your opinions, are the most horrible miniatures in the current wargame ranges? Whether it's the concept, the sculpting, the pose, or better still all three, please share! Please include pictures for our collective amusement. Models must still be in production, not Oldhammer or Middlehammer - we've all seen Clown Nagash and Sister Dialogous. (which I'll admit I still google from time to time when I need a laugh!)

I nominate the Goliath 'Zerker. The Necromunda range has, for the most part, been mind-blowingly good. In fact I liked the Goliath gangers so much I'm converting a whole army out of them. But this guy is just a blobby mess. It's so shockingly sloppy that I honestly thought he was a converted action figure at first sight. Furthermore, the company has made countless great sculpts of warped / overly muscled creatures over the years, so how a sculpt as rubbishy as this gets approved is beyond me.

P.S. Miniaturse from any range, not specifically Games Workshop (though Gods know they do know how to reliably churn out the occasional stinker).


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The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/07/31 21:54:55


Post by: Misclicking ork


There are a lot of minis in the Craftworld Eldar line that I personally dislike. There are a lot of sculpts that I can tell you for a fact where in 2nd edition(the power the internet lent me this knowledge), and there is one sculpt in particular that I really dislike, it's the guardian squad, the guns just look off and the unhelmeted heads don't help either. This is just my opinion.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/07/31 22:46:59


Post by: Irkjoe


The admech horses and fliers. Also the boat thing. As gw becomes less stylized and more generic scifi there are many new releases that I dislike, with every new one seeming worse than the last.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/01 00:22:33


Post by: Vermis


The simple concept of a Goliath 'zerker rubs me up the wrong way. Makes me think of how every army or faction had to have big toys like fantasy monstrous cav shoved into their theme, in case someone might start crying or worse, go about with extra money in their wallet.

I haven't kept up with any minis lately, but Geifer's project log made me go look at the current AS repentia models.

Spoiler:


Ayaiyaiyaiyai... I don't know if it's an attempt to sculpt a more mature lady, or the paintjob, or both (along with some kind of truscaling making her look pinheaded?) but she looks like a cross between Grayson Perry and Dave Bautista. GW still can't do female faces.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/01 00:27:52


Post by: McMagnus Mindbullets


I don't know what it is, but the new canoptek reanimator just looks awful to me

I know it's a great model and people love it, but the thing really doesn't do it for me- alas I've only seen them in pictures and on sprue, so maybe my opinion will change.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/01 01:10:32


Post by: MegaDombro


Pretty much anything from the Ossiarch Bonereapers. Goofy, comical, undead/constructs. I think them just being in the AoS system has made me like it less.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/01 09:01:44


Post by: Grimtuff


So so many in the GW range. They have this habit at the moment of making well sculpted minis from a technical standpoint but the posing is absolutely the drizzling gaks. Case in point- Typhus.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/01 12:41:36


Post by: amazingturtles


Anything from anyone where the mini is only connected to the base by a tiny strip of plastic so that the pose can be "dynamic"

I don't care about dynamic, i want something that won't break when i so much as breathe on it


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/01 13:17:44


Post by: thegreatchimp


 amazingturtles wrote:
Anything from anyone where the mini is only connected to the base by a tiny strip of plastic so that the pose can be "dynamic"

I don't care about dynamic, i want something that won't break when i so much as breathe on it


That wrecks my head too. I haven't had much problems with base connections, but I remember my displeasure at having to remove a fair bit of decorative extremeties from space wolves, on account of them being fragile enough that they got bent trying to remove it from the sprue. The wolf guard terminator assault cannon was a particular culprit. A design oversight, and a pain in the proverbial ass.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/01 15:17:49


Post by: Vermis


True! When I started out in this hobby I ended up with a few pre-killed hormagaunts.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/01 16:22:46


Post by: Racerguy180


for me its a tie between the Bladeguard Ancient & Judiciar.


but that Goliath zerker is utterly horrid.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/01 18:08:44


Post by: Vaktathi


Aesthetically? Emo-Shrike. The old Shrike, whatever people want to say about it, was at least very obviously "Imperial Space Marine", not "emotionally vulnerable cyberpunk anime character". There's a time and place for the latter, but Shrike was not it.

Conceptually? AdMech cavalry. Cavalry in general outside of Daemons & Orks for the most part, but the AdMech Cavalry was especially silly, just like Rough Riders and Thunderwoofs.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 03:12:09


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Wulfen.

Good God what were they thinking.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 08:12:20


Post by: Dr. What


MegaDombro wrote:
Pretty much anything from the Ossiarch Bonereapers. Goofy, comical, undead/constructs. I think them just being in the AoS system has made me like it less.


I can definitely see this. Personally, I think they're perfect for the setting (along with iron sky dwarves and eel-riding soulless elves) as they're Nagash's petty response/copy to Stormcast.


For me, it's new Typhus. He just feels too goofy/lighthearded. Dark Imperium Plaguecaster is a close second (thank Nurgle for the Heroes alt sculpt!).


Honorable mention to every character model needing to be posing/leaping with some ruin sculpted on, especially Troupes and both Blood of the Phoenix heroes.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 11:32:06


Post by: Grimtuff


 Dr. What wrote:


Honorable mention to every character model needing to be posing/leaping with some ruin sculpted on, especially Troupes and both Blood of the Phoenix heroes.


To be fair with the Harlies, that is a feature and not a bug (though it has bled into loads of other GW minis as a result). I learned this from chatting with Jes Goodwin at Games Day one year, when they were first redesigned in metal it was a conscious choice to not have any of the minis be touching the ground and have them all be attached to the base by their ribbons. Now that works for all of the normal Harlies that can be flipping around, but not the Death Jester. The DJ ended up on a ruin to follow the same theme.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 11:56:16


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


the necromunda floating fat blob thing. cant remember the name, but it looks like someone threw a blob of green stuff at a bits box.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 12:05:17


Post by: General Kroll


The Captain in Gravis armour from Dark Imperium. He looks like one of the Yolk folk from the dizzy computer game series.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 12:05:18


Post by: Inquisitor Gideon


 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
the necromunda floating fat blob thing. cant remember the name, but it looks like someone threw a blob of green stuff at a bits box.


Hard disagree. I have Ortrumm and he's actually a very well done piece in hand.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 14:06:46


Post by: amazingturtles


 thegreatchimp wrote:
 amazingturtles wrote:
Anything from anyone where the mini is only connected to the base by a tiny strip of plastic so that the pose can be "dynamic"

I don't care about dynamic, i want something that won't break when i so much as breathe on it


That wrecks my head too. I haven't had much problems with base connections, but I remember my displeasure at having to remove a fair bit of decorative extremeties from space wolves, on account of them being fragile enough that they got bent trying to remove it from the sprue. The wolf guard terminator assault cannon was a particular culprit. A design oversight, and a pain in the proverbial ass.


Oh yeah. Tiny things attached to the sprue in such a way that it's almost impossible to detach them without like...a doll surgeons tools or something. Those are a curse.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 14:26:34


Post by: ElAntiguoGuardián


I hate the new Zoat.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 14:26:40


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


How recent is recent? Do the original plastic Basilians count? Those were just hilariously bad, and the story behind their creation would have made for a great sitcom episode.

Also, do we count minis that are awful on purpose to appeal to Oldhammer players? For example, the new Victoria Minis Ogryns are just cringingly, embarrassingly bad, but by design because it hits some customers(‘ wallets) right in the nostalgia button.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 14:29:13


Post by: General Kroll


Racerguy180 wrote:
for me its a tie between the Bladeguard Ancient & Judiciar.


but that Goliath zerker is utterly horrid.


I like the Judiciar, but whoever signed off on his head should have gone to specsavers.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 15:06:59


Post by: Voss


Huh. I actually like his helmet.
I'm more confused why he and the Bladeguard Ancient didn't bother with right shoulder pauldrons, and why iron halos were passed around like candy.


BobtheInquistor wrote:Also, do we count minis that are awful on purpose to appeal to Oldhammer players? For example, the new Victoria Minis Ogryns are just cringingly, embarrassingly bad, but by design because it hits some customers(‘ wallets) right in the nostalgia button.

Eh. They actually look really well done from a sculpting point of view. Its just a matter of a subjective 'does the aesthetic appeal to you?'

'Worst miniature' seems like an issue when there are details missing, or something just fails in execution, leaving blobby, vague or unrecognizable bits. (which the Goliath... thing... definitely has all of the above)


----
I'm surprised the razorgor or clown Nagash haven't come up yet.

But personally? The plastic beastman Minotaurs. I don't know what happened with this kit- I was excited by the idea of plastic, but the blobby, overabundant 'muscles' that seemed to be replicating over their bodies like pustules and fake-looking hair patches make the kit just an utter failure.



The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 15:20:48


Post by: Nevelon


Voss wrote:
Huh. I actually like his helmet.
I'm more confused why he and the Bladeguard Ancient didn't bother with right shoulder pauldrons, and why iron halos were passed around like candy.


I was not fond of the Judicars helm. Luckily headswaps are easy.
Spoiler:




I assume that he’s got his shoulder pad off because he doesn’t want anything to interfere with his sword arm. Same reason he’s shrugged out of the sleeve of his coat. The ancient probably is missing his because he’s always got his arm raised on the banner, and it would get awkward. (I honestly didn’t notice he was missing his until you mentioned it)

I took a knife to the iron halos on the bladeguard and the Lt. Left the ones on the captain and the chaplain. Ancient also got to keep his halo, it’s not necessarily iron.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 15:22:32


Post by: Overread


 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
the necromunda floating fat blob thing. cant remember the name, but it looks like someone threw a blob of green stuff at a bits box.


For some reason Forgeworld has wound up with a few (one?) people doing the painting who are not as skilled as the rest of the general display model team. That or their style is markedly different.

For whatever the reason that model and a few others really stand out as having a lower grade of painting quality which directly impacts their potential appeal as a model.




Personally I dislike to nominate models as "worst sculpt" unless its something I've actually held in my hands and seen as a model with my own eyes. As oppose to purely going to by photographs. The problem is photos lie - they can hide subtle elements just by the angle of the shot; a bit of perspective distortion can skew relative scales of parts; a bad paint job might hide otherwise solid detailing; a very good paint job can make a rather bland model appear far more detailed etc.... Seeing the model in reality can change your impression quite markedly even if its not a model you own yourself.



The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 15:37:48


Post by: Dysartes


Voss wrote:
I'm surprised the razorgor or clown Nagash haven't come up yet.


"Clown" Nagash would probably fail the "recent" aspect - unless the plastic floaty dude is also known as "clown Nagash".

The Repulsive and its offspring land here for me, along with the... Inceptors (I think? jump pack dudes from DI?) and the Suppressors. You don't spray a tank with glue and roll it in the spare bits box, you make sure you design suitable mounting points for flight stands, and the combination of heavy weapons and jump/jet packs is facepalmingly bad.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 15:54:10


Post by: jdouglas


Definitely the Wulfen. They look more look like refugees from Necromundia (at least in the way GW paints them).
I liked the old range better. They looked more "wolfy".

Many will disagree with this one, but This is purely a personal assessment. I liked the older Dark Eldar Incubi better. They had distinctive helmets and pole-arms.
The new Incubi range look too much like Chaos bloodletters.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 16:38:34


Post by: Argive


Cmon guys... the new wierd cow head helmet elfs aesthetic from AOS?
Those things make me wanna throw up.

Mierce has made some dubious asthetic decisions too.. lol


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 16:52:26


Post by: Grimtuff


Well if we're going with non-GW minis too...

Gonna go for Andrei Malakov (full Warcaster version), it's just so... bland. Nothing about the mini screams "Warcaster" like the other minis. He's just standing there, with his gun pointing out.

There's a reason I converted mine from the jr version kitbashed with the classic Cadian colonel mini (and a Commissar hat).


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 17:37:03


Post by: thegreatchimp


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Also, do we count minis that are awful on purpose to appeal to Oldhammer players?


Please do! With pictures if possible. I get a real hoot out of them!


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 17:39:13


Post by: Blackie


Anything primaris and Deathguard. No, I actually like the Judiciar, but that's it.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 17:52:50


Post by: thegreatchimp


I must give a special mention to the Jack-In-The-Box of the 41st Millenium -the Blood Angels Sanguinar. BA artificier armour is glorious and the Sanguinary Guard are favourites of mine. But the pose of this guy is so woeful it ruins what would otherwise be a great mini. I'm not sure the excess of toilet roll trailing from him helps either, but that is a minor complaint.

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The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 18:28:23


Post by: Dysartes


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Also, do we count minis that are awful on purpose to appeal to Oldhammer players? For example, the new Victoria Minis Ogryns are just cringingly, embarrassingly bad, but by design because it hits some customers(‘ wallets) right in the nostalgia button.


Not to your taste =/= awful - and, in the case of those Ogryns, they're well-sculpted even if they're done in a Rogue Trader style.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 18:44:14


Post by: Grimtuff


 Dysartes wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Also, do we count minis that are awful on purpose to appeal to Oldhammer players? For example, the new Victoria Minis Ogryns are just cringingly, embarrassingly bad, but by design because it hits some customers(‘ wallets) right in the nostalgia button.


Not to your taste =/= awful - and, in the case of those Ogryns, they're well-sculpted even if they're done in a Rogue Trader style.


Just looked them up, agreed. Much better than GW's current Wilford Brimley offerings.



Diabeetus!


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 18:44:41


Post by: Racerguy180


for me the Judiciar just doesnt look like anyone but Templars and I dont necessarily care for their "knight" style. Just not what I'm looking for in a space marine.

And the paintjob on Ortruum 8-8 does not do it any service. next time I do a Necromunda FW order he'll be looking better.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 18:50:03


Post by: Vaktathi


 Grimtuff wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Also, do we count minis that are awful on purpose to appeal to Oldhammer players? For example, the new Victoria Minis Ogryns are just cringingly, embarrassingly bad, but by design because it hits some customers(‘ wallets) right in the nostalgia button.


Not to your taste =/= awful - and, in the case of those Ogryns, they're well-sculpted even if they're done in a Rogue Trader style.


Just looked them up, agreed. Much better than GW's current Wilford Brimley offerings.
Spoiler:



Diabeetus!


Awkward...


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 19:27:37


Post by: Grimtuff





That's weird. Didn't know!


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 19:29:21


Post by: General Kroll


Overread wrote:
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
the necromunda floating fat blob thing. cant remember the name, but it looks like someone threw a blob of green stuff at a bits box.


For some reason Forgeworld has wound up with a few (one?) people doing the painting who are not as skilled as the rest of the general display model team. That or their style is markedly different.

For whatever the reason that model and a few others really stand out as having a lower grade of painting quality which directly impacts their potential appeal as a model.




Personally I dislike to nominate models as "worst sculpt" unless its something I've actually held in my hands and seen as a model with my own eyes. As oppose to purely going to by photographs. The problem is photos lie - they can hide subtle elements just by the angle of the shot; a bit of perspective distortion can skew relative scales of parts; a bad paint job might hide otherwise solid detailing; a very good paint job can make a rather bland model appear far more detailed etc.... Seeing the model in reality can change your impression quite markedly even if its not a model you own yourself.




Wholeheartedly agree about seeing models in the flesh, I always really hated the Tau range until I saw them in person, they looked so much cooler face to face. And FW definitely has a different aesthetic to their display models, it’s changed since the start of the HH series when everything was done in a realistic grungey style. Personally don’t think they’ve changed for the better either.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 20:49:10


Post by: Vermis


BobtheInquisitor wrote:How recent is recent? Do the original plastic Basilians count? Those were just hilariously bad, and the story behind their creation would have made for a great sitcom episode.


Oh! Oh! If early Mantic counts as 'recent', this thread could double from it's current size. But for me, I'll point out the drakons.



These were designed by someone who's heard of animals but wasn't sure if they should believe the stories. They're the worst dragon miniatures I've seen, and I've seen most of Trish Carden's productions. They look like a bunch of elves decided to build some cardboard dragons, Monty Python style, with a filth-gathering peasant's crude recollection of some heraldry he saw once as the blueprint. There are no subtle elements hidden by the angle of the shot, or perspective fixes, or very good paint jobs that can help these. They're just dire.

Grimtuff wrote:Just looked them up, agreed. Much better than GW's current Wilford Brimley offerings.


The plasticene Rankin-Bass face on that ogryn goes a long way to excuse any retro styling that Victoria Miniatures decides on.

Also, heck of a timing thing on that Wilfrid Brimley ref.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 21:10:43


Post by: Overread


I always felt like a lot of those early designs like the Drakons were them trying to emulate the old style art for many of those creatures - like those dragons. Only its now 2020 and not 1940. I appreciate the nod, but still dislike the designs as well.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 21:22:31


Post by: Argive


Ohh yeah those dragons are terrible..


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/02 21:23:08


Post by: Vaktathi


 Grimtuff wrote:


That's weird. Didn't know!
I literally only saw it a few minutes before your post too


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/03 02:28:18


Post by: a fat guy


 jdouglas wrote:
Definitely the Wulfen. They look more look like refugees from Necromundia (at least in the way GW paints them).
I liked the old range better. They looked more "wolfy".


Gotta agree with this, everything about them feels off. They should never have been given weapon options either, it just feels weird. The legs look stupid, the fact that they can use some kind of backpack grenade launcher is stupid, the idea that they should be able to use a hammer and shield is stupid.. I could go on.

They really messed up badly with that box, the originals with their scavenged armour looked much better (instead of what seems to be the 40K equivalent of "jungle" power armour. The original looked like they used to be soace marines too, but these guys? More like wolf chaos spawn.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/03 02:39:11


Post by: petrov27


The new Ephrael Stern mini I really do not like - the face is not good, the cloak and all blowing straight vertical etc. For some reason even the odd little crumbling brick wall with cables she is touching-down on just doesn't work for me.

Maybe its just me on that one - I do like the rest of the new plastic sisters stuff, some of it I like a ton...


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/03 03:42:41


Post by: Voss


 jdouglas wrote:
Definitely the Wulfen. They look more look like refugees from Necromundia (at least in the way GW paints them).
I liked the old range better. They looked more "wolfy".

Many will disagree with this one, but This is purely a personal assessment. I liked the older Dark Eldar Incubi better. They had distinctive helmets and pole-arms.
The new Incubi range look too much like Chaos bloodletters.



I get not liking them.

But I'm staring at the unit photo sideways trying to work out the bloodletter connection. Full armor versus naked, completely different sword style, back prows on the incubi, tongues on the bloodletters...
They both have horns, but even those are a different style.
The metal bloodletters with axes had more similar horns and had loincloths, but even then, I don't see it.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/03 07:28:16


Post by: ccs


 Vermis wrote:
BobtheInquisitor wrote:How recent is recent? Do the original plastic Basilians count? Those were just hilariously bad, and the story behind their creation would have made for a great sitcom episode.


Oh! Oh! If early Mantic counts as 'recent', this thread could double from it's current size. But for me, I'll point out the drakons.



These were designed by someone who's heard of animals but wasn't sure if they should believe the stories. They're the worst dragon miniatures I've seen, and I've seen most of Trish Carden's productions. They look like a bunch of elves decided to build some cardboard dragons, Monty Python style, with a filth-gathering peasant's crude recollection of some heraldry he saw once as the blueprint. There are no subtle elements hidden by the angle of the shot, or perspective fixes, or very good paint jobs that can help these. They're just dire.


Damn it, now I've got coffee soaking into my keyboard.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/03 19:02:36


Post by: 123ply


Easy. The Judiciar. Hes a freaking StormCast Eternal marine and hes downright ugly like the majority of stormcast models


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/03 22:54:22


Post by: BuFFo


Throw a dart at this picture. Take your pick.





The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 02:20:49


Post by: ZergSmasher


Repentia aren't supposed to be pretty, they're supposed to be tough and mean. I feel like they nailed that aesthetic. And I think the Superior's face looking weird is more of a paintjob thing.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 03:25:07


Post by: Racerguy180


123ply wrote:Easy. The Judiciar. Hes a freaking StormCast Eternal marine and hes downright ugly like the majority of stormcast models



yup, the fact that they'd look perfectly fine in AOS is a key indicator for terribleness. remove the power pack & swap absolver for something else and bingo, new Stormcast chamber...the gakky chamber.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 06:18:14


Post by: smelly bohab


I'd say these bad boys were the beginning of the end for the old style marines.



The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 07:46:13


Post by: Inquisitor Jex


smelly bohab wrote:
I'd say these bad boys were the beginning of the end for the old style marines.
Spoiler:



When it began to get too ridiculous I'll agree with that.

 BuFFo wrote:
Throw a dart at this picture. Take your pick.
Spoiler:





Part of GW's plan to open up the 40k to the masses, by cleaning up and main streaming the grimdark...can't have half covered woman with hoods and corset running around being herded by some masked mistress with whips. Now it's simplistic but proper clothing, and everything must alookk like thir badasses...Also, cyber and those electroos everywhere..it's like the metal tubes..everyone got metal tubes now in 40k, so grimdark, metal tubes..

As I play Guard, I would push forward this:



looks like an quad with a closed frame, suddenly came out with the Scions, which are also a bit too baroque for the Guard; I mean one thing benig clled off by th grunts, it,s another to flahs as to rub it in their faces..




The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 09:03:16


Post by: thegreatchimp


smelly bohab wrote:
I'd say these bad boys were the beginning of the end for the old style marines.

Awful-looking things. Ugly torsos to begin with. Nipple guns and the undersling drills with giant powerfists holding them add a dimension of wtf?!


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 09:31:58


Post by: Overread


My problem with them is that they lack a sense of being able to move. The legs are too thick; the guns aren't really on the chest they are in the arm pit area etc...

They just look like a suit of armour better set for heavy artillery, but they are close combat units which should mean that they'd need to move fairly fast to be of any use.

I get the idea of them being a massive walking machine that never stops; never gives up and just ploughs through everything including walls; but they are just "too" much on the armour side of things.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 10:08:38


Post by: Kayback


Inquisitor Jex wrote:





looks like an quad with a closed frame, suddenly came out with the Scions, which are also a bit too baroque for the Guard; I mean one thing benig clled off by th grunts, it,s another to flahs as to rub it in their faces..




This model is stupid as feth. The tracks don't seem to offer much over wheels for PSI ratings, the autocannon is literally pointing at the crew access doors in some versions, just stupid. I understand the desire for a WWIesque MRAP model but still there are may better way of making this vehicle than that crud.

I have a heavy dislike for the Centurion models as well because of how cumbersome they look. They don't look practical at all.

The various versions of the Storm Raven strike me as impractical too.

My personal top dislike model is a toss up between the Reivers and the Bladeguard Veterans.

One is silly looking because of the skull thing. Won't work on anyone that's Xeno IMHO, so who's it really for? And the Bladeguard are simply too cluttered, especially after the clean lines of most other Primaris. I'm honestly surprised at hos Grimdark they went with the iconography and spare gear, without making it realistic in any way. Look at almost any veteran in combat. Their gear will be stripped down to bare essentials that accomplish the mission without any superfluous garbage. Yet these veterans are carrying everything including the Kitchen Sink. I DO like the Death Watch Veteran Kill Team, including the shield guy.



The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 12:19:08


Post by: petrov27


Im very mixed on the new repentia - not a fan of the sporty outfits and shoes but otherwise ok. I wish they had tattered robes over the sport bra and shorts maybe as a start. Shrek face superior though needs a head swap....


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 12:31:52


Post by: Darkjim


Regards the Taurox, the tracks don't seem to offer any ability to move atall, beyond on perfectly flat concrete, The fixed armour almost to the ground would just sit the weight of the whole thing on any soft ground, and it becomes a very, very ugly pillbox. Not atall sure why double track guards either.

A flabbergastingly bad model on release, and still is.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 12:32:20


Post by: Overread


Spoiler:
Kayback wrote:
Inquisitor Jex wrote:





looks like an quad with a closed frame, suddenly came out with the Scions, which are also a bit too baroque for the Guard; I mean one thing benig clled off by th grunts, it,s another to flahs as to rub it in their faces..




This model is stupid as feth. The tracks don't seem to offer much over wheels for PSI ratings, the autocannon is literally pointing at the crew access doors in some versions, just stupid. I understand the desire for a WWIesque MRAP model but still there are may better way of making this vehicle than that crud.

I have a heavy dislike for the Centurion models as well because of how cumbersome they look. They don't look practical at all.

The various versions of the Storm Raven strike me as impractical too.

My personal top dislike model is a toss up between the Reivers and the Bladeguard Veterans.

One is silly looking because of the skull thing. Won't work on anyone that's Xeno IMHO, so who's it really for? And the Bladeguard are simply too cluttered, especially after the clean lines of most other Primaris. I'm honestly surprised at hos Grimdark they went with the iconography and spare gear, without making it realistic in any way. Look at almost any veteran in combat. Their gear will be stripped down to bare essentials that accomplish the mission without any superfluous garbage. Yet these veterans are carrying everything including the Kitchen Sink. I DO like the Death Watch Veteran Kill Team, including the shield guy.



I think its main problem, besides the gun on the side which looks tacked on and doesn't have a proper support. Is that its a bit like the genstealer cults Rockgrinder when it first came out. I didn't like it back then because it was alone in its asthetic. However when the truck and bikes and buggy came out the designs unified and supported each other. The issue with the new IG vehicle is that it came into a range with Chimera and Russ and other tanks that all had a very defined look; then they got a single lone truck that sort of kept the same design source, but was on its own. It would come into its own with a small group of similar designs appearing.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 12:37:48


Post by: General Kroll


The Taurox looks a lot better with the wheel conversion kit from Victoria minis.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 12:55:05


Post by: the_scotsman


My personal favorite is the details on the judicar.

1) I like that he's got this flirty look with his coat, like he's coming at you, and he's let one shoulder of his goofy "I'm wearing power armor but also a coat" ensemble slip off his shoulder, and that sultry gaze just screams "whoops *giggle* not fixing that...."

2) I also like that he's taken an hourglass, an item the main function of which is to turn on its end so you can reset it, and he's mounted it on...a chain, attached to the top.

So that you can't turn it over. What happens when the sand reaches the bottom, Judge Judy?

3) everything about his head. Why is he a skeleton man? That looks like his real head - why is his nose a hole? Is this a reject chaos model that they forgot they didn't primaris-ize chaos marines?


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 13:08:03


Post by: amazingturtles


the_scotsman wrote:
My personal favorite is the details on the judicar.

1) I like that he's got this flirty look with his coat, like he's coming at you, and he's let one shoulder of his goofy "I'm wearing power armor but also a coat" ensemble slip off his shoulder, and that sultry gaze just screams "whoops *giggle* not fixing that...."


Well, you've just now convinced me to try to get a hold of a judiciar. Congratulations!


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 13:35:38


Post by: smelly bohab


Everyone keeps bringing up the judicar and I agree it's not good, but I can't be the only who saw these similarities:





Also, Auron's a time traveler and the judicar has an hourglass...


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 13:49:46


Post by: Kayback


 General Kroll wrote:
The Taurox looks a lot better with the wheel conversion kit from Victoria minis.


Cool. I like the Zinge halftrack conversion too.

Having spent a good deal of time climbing into and jumping out of early Mine Protected Vehicles/ Mine Resistant Vehicles like Buffels, Caspir and even an MRAP I have to say the functional design of the Taurox is gak. Ingress and egress will not be anywhere as good as the Chimera.

Now I've only been aboard an M113 and M2 Bradley as a civilian and played around with Russian BTRs but from an IFV/APC standpoint the rear egress with a ramp shared with things like the Ratel are vastly superior to leaping from what looks like a 5' height.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 14:13:42


Post by: the_scotsman


 amazingturtles wrote:
the_scotsman wrote:
My personal favorite is the details on the judicar.

1) I like that he's got this flirty look with his coat, like he's coming at you, and he's let one shoulder of his goofy "I'm wearing power armor but also a coat" ensemble slip off his shoulder, and that sultry gaze just screams "whoops *giggle* not fixing that...."


Well, you've just now convinced me to try to get a hold of a judiciar. Congratulations!


The only logical explanations for the judicar's whole steez are also hilariously illogical.

1) that's not his face, he's just wearing a little mouth covering bandanna thing...over a helmet.

2) the hourglass is just for decoration. It doesn't work. He never has to turn it over because it's just a prop.

3) the coat is also just for effect, and in fact it gets in the way of his armor, so he's got it hanging off of him just in a desperate attempt to make his outfit functional.

I actually kind of love the idea that the judicar is just a purely psychological weapon, and everything he's doing is just trying to deploy his stupid decorations and then get rid of them so he can actually try and fight.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 15:30:48


Post by: Mr Morden


From GW

Walking pile of badly designed, malformed gak

Spoiler:


Mutilated,armless stupdiity

Spoiler:


babycarrier gak

Spoiler:




The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 15:35:54


Post by: Overread


Hey I love that Tau artillery unit - its not so much a mech as it is a huge artillery platform on legs.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 15:38:15


Post by: Mr Morden


 Overread wrote:
Hey I love that Tau artillery unit - its not so much a mech as it is a huge artillery platform on legs.


hate it and the stupidly exposed crew.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 18:22:42


Post by: Grimtuff


Fun fact about the Taurox. The reason it has tracks is because Alan Merrett apparently sent out an edict that no IG vehicles could have wheels.



The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 19:10:40


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


petrov27 wrote:
Im very mixed on the new repentia - not a fan of the sporty outfits and shoes but otherwise ok. I wish they had tattered robes over the sport bra and shorts maybe as a start. Shrek face superior though needs a head swap....


Just coat her face in plastic glue and then press and peel a bit of sprue to give her that Freddy Krueger effect.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 21:30:20


Post by: Kayback


 Grimtuff wrote:
Fun fact about the Taurox. The reason it has tracks is because Alan Merrett apparently sent out an edict that no IG vehicles could have wheels.



HAhahahahaha. Serious? I can believe that. It's like they designed a wheeled vehicle and then slapped the tracks on it when they got that edict.

Speaking of stupid wheeled vehicles :



Let us not forget.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 21:41:12


Post by: Overread


That would look fine if they'd put some armour on the front ;P


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 22:15:36


Post by: Stormonu


The daddy, the kids & the midlife crisis:

Spoiler:









And let's not forget the recent cow elves.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 22:27:45


Post by: Kayback


 Overread wrote:
That would look fine if they'd put some armour on the front ;P


The exposed crew is the least of my issues with it. I love the old Attack Bike sidecar.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 22:58:36


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 Grimtuff wrote:
Fun fact about the Taurox. The reason it has tracks is because Alan Merrett apparently sent out an edict that no IG vehicles could have wheels.
Him not being there continues to pay dividends.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/04 23:16:10


Post by: insaniak


Kayback wrote:
 Grimtuff wrote:
Fun fact about the Taurox. The reason it has tracks is because Alan Merrett apparently sent out an edict that no IG vehicles could have wheels.



HAhahahahaha. Serious? I can believe that. It's like they designed a wheeled vehicle and then slapped the tracks on it when they got that edict.

Speaking of stupid wheeled vehicles :
Spoiler:



Let us not forget.

Nah, I love the go-kart. It's the new bikes that miss the mark, for me.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/05 01:57:23


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


I like the cow elves. They make sense in a John Blanche napkin-scribble kind of a way.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/06 07:24:42


Post by: Dysartes


 insaniak wrote:
Kayback wrote:
 Grimtuff wrote:
Fun fact about the Taurox. The reason it has tracks is because Alan Merrett apparently sent out an edict that no IG vehicles could have wheels.



HAhahahahaha. Serious? I can believe that. It's like they designed a wheeled vehicle and then slapped the tracks on it when they got that edict.

Speaking of stupid wheeled vehicles :
Spoiler:



Let us not forget.

Nah, I love the go-kart. It's the new bikes that miss the mark, for me.


Has anyone figured out how they're meant to steer yet?


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/06 08:00:55


Post by: Kayback


 Dysartes wrote:


Has anyone figured out how they're meant to steer yet?


Insh'Allah. As the Emperor wills it?

Differential braking?

I'm more curious about the gattling gun muzzle next to the drivers head.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/06 11:36:24


Post by: NinthMusketeer


C'mon guys how does this thread not have the majesty of the Razorgor yet?



I must also second the Justicar and especially the Wulfen as well.


Mantic can be low-hanging fruit, but people are supposedly expected to buy these things...



Para Bellum's older releases (though still recent by overall measure) have strongly questionable design quality in my eyes;


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/06 11:41:08


Post by: Matt Swain


 thegreatchimp wrote:
What, in your opinions, are the most horrible miniatures in the current wargame ranges? Whether it's the concept, the sculpting, the pose, or better still all three, please share! Please include pictures for our collective amusement. Models must still be in production, not Oldhammer or Middlehammer - we've all seen Clown Nagash and Sister Dialogous. (which I'll admit I still google from time to time when I need a laugh!)

I nominate the Goliath 'Zerker. The Necromunda range has, for the most part, been mind-blowingly good. In fact I liked the Goliath gangers so much I'm converting a whole army out of them. But this guy is just a blobby mess. It's so shockingly sloppy that I honestly thought he was a converted action figure at first sight. Furthermore, the company has made countless great sculpts of warped / overly muscled creatures over the years, so how a sculpt as rubbishy as this gets approved is beyond me.

P.S. Miniaturse from any range, not specifically Games Workshop (though Gods know they do know how to reliably churn out the occasional stinker).



BBBBBAAAAAANNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, just a total ripoff.

I saw those new admech flyers with the silly wings that looked like they were made of hide and sticks, I pretty much groaned at how dumb they looked. Maybe going for a Da Vinci look but came off more like something from the flintstones or other hanna barbara cartoon.

I used to think the murder buckets looked wrong, but now I kinda understand they're made to be tougher than normal necrons. Still they look kind of off but I'm ok with them, especially if we see them as necron servitors. The doomstalker walker, the cables look really crude and out of place compared to like a triarch stalker. It's obviously a rip from the Protoss titans in starcraft 2, but all those cables just look so low tech for a necron machine.

(I just rmemmbered the first time I saw the protoss titans, these (relatively) giant things just walking up out of the water to come to me, it was like "WTAF?!?! I sure learned to appreciate them in a hurry though...)



Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Dysartes wrote:
 insaniak wrote:
Kayback wrote:
 Grimtuff wrote:
Fun fact about the Taurox. The reason it has tracks is because Alan Merrett apparently sent out an edict that no IG vehicles could have wheels.



HAhahahahaha. Serious? I can believe that. It's like they designed a wheeled vehicle and then slapped the tracks on it when they got that edict.

Speaking of stupid wheeled vehicles :
Spoiler:



Let us not forget.

Nah, I love the go-kart. It's the new bikes that miss the mark, for me.


Has anyone figured out how they're meant to steer yet?


They don't steer,they just deploy pointed at the enemy and go straight forward!

Unsteerable vehicles are a plague on british scifi. It started with the lawmaster bike in the dredd comics, they look cool in a comic.



When they built actual versions of them for the stallone mess called "Judge Dredd" they found out they were impossible to steer. Marine bikes have been based on the lawmaster since the first ones.

The versions in Karl urban's vastly superior "dredd" film actually worked.





The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/06 19:45:49


Post by: thegreatchimp


smelly bohab wrote:
Everyone keeps bringing up the judicar and I agree it's not good, but I can't be the only who saw these similarities:





Also, Auron's a time traveler and the judicar has an hourglass...


Yes! Sir Auron -the first thing I thought when I saw the model

I may be in the minority in liking the Judicar for that similarity. I'll concede though, a head swap is probably in order.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/06 20:07:15


Post by: KingmanHighborn


The new Nurgle stuff is horrible aesthetically to me but that's probably the point.

Most of the primarius vehicles are just bad as well. Except the Akira bikes and bigger dread.

But the hover tanks, the Mario kart, the weird gun platform thing, the Avatar rip off suit. They all suck like a Hoover.

Which is a shame cause outside of the one guy that forgot the tip of his sword the infantry for the primaris marines has been cool.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/06 20:11:10


Post by: Grimtuff


The problem with the Nurgle stuff is the terrible pastel paint scheme the studio uses on them. The minis themselves are fine.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/06 20:18:11


Post by: Stormonu


I somewhat disagree. The Nurgle minis are so disgusting, I won't let them in my house, and I would actually refuse to play against an army of them.

But they are meant to exactly as disgusting as they turned out.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/06 20:23:14


Post by: RiTides


 Vaktathi wrote:
Aesthetically? Emo-Shrike. The old Shrike, whatever people want to say about it, was at least very obviously "Imperial Space Marine", not "emotionally vulnerable cyberpunk anime character". There's a time and place for the latter, but Shrike was not it.

Okay this got me

As for the admech cavalry that have been mentioned a few times - yes, it's a silly idea, but I would say given the idea they were executed as well as they possibly could have been. Those are some sweet sculpts!


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/06 20:53:00


Post by: gorgon


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
C'mon guys how does this thread not have the majesty of the Razorgor yet?




Yeah, that plus these from the same release:

Spoiler:


Bad concept and bad execution all around. I don't see how well-sculpted models like Shrike and the Judicar are in the same category as these.

The baffling thing was that neither looked anything like the art in that army book. Looked like two completely separate sets of art direction.



The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/06 22:00:34


Post by: NinthMusketeer


The difference is a good paint job can really save the minotaur kit. But yeah, there did seem to be a lot of indecision around BoC design at that point.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/06 22:44:20


Post by: Stevefamine


Space Marine Suppressors


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 02:16:41


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
C'mon guys how does this thread not have the majesty of the Razorgor yet?
They did say "recent".


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 04:51:04


Post by: Dysartes


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
C'mon guys how does this thread not have the majesty of the Razorgor yet?
They did say "recent".

The downside of using such an inexact measure of time, I guess - though I'd agree with you that I wouldn't've counted "Mutated Pumbaa" as "recent".


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 07:45:48


Post by: Jackal90


For me it has to be the harvester for bonereapers.

The actual model for the most part is solid and looks a great.
Even has an element of comedy thrown in with a stormcasts helmet being rejected.

They then added a crotch skeleton because why not?
To make it worse, it’s a key part of the model so removing it is far more work than it should be.
Easier to cut it flat and cover it with a tabard.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 09:19:14


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


How can the Chibi Hawk go unmentioned?



It's from 2010, so that was only like 3 or 4 years ago.

And then there's the Chibier Hawk!



I love that they put the landing gear on the nose turret because the damn thing is so unwieldy there was nowhere else to put it.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 09:20:22


Post by: sing your life


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
C'mon guys how does this thread not have the majesty of the Razorgor yet?
They did say "recent".


Define "recent".:.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 09:40:19


Post by: Kayback


 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
How can the Chibi Hawk go unmentioned?


I did mention the Storm Raven and its variants.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 10:08:04


Post by: Nevelon


I left the top air scoop off the raven and replaced the turret with an unmanned low profile one. Helps it a lot.

The stormtalon got a lot better when I stopped thinking of it as “it’s a plane” and more “40k version of a cold war era Soviet helicopter gunship” Perspective shift did it wonders.

But I agree, that neither on are particularly good models.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 12:44:27


Post by: Kayback


 Nevelon wrote:


The stormtalon got a lot better when I stopped thinking of it as “it’s a plane” and more “40k version of a cold war era Soviet helicopter gunship” Perspective shift did it wonders.

But I agree, that neither on are particularly good models.


I've seen some nice Hind Valkyrie amalgamations. I'd like to get a StormTalon and do similar but couldn't ever find the motivation to buy a model I didn't really like.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 13:48:22


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
And then there's the Chibier Hawk!
You mean the Space Guppy?

Chapterhouse made a nice Chibi-Hawk extension kit. Gave the thing an actual fuselage so it was no longer a cockpit with wings.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 14:15:43


Post by: Tannhauser42


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
And then there's the Chibier Hawk!
You mean the Space Guppy?

Chapterhouse made a nice Chibi-Hawk extension kit. Gave the thing an actual fuselage so it was no longer a cockpit with wings.


Yeah, I've got those extension kits, which is why every time I see the original model, it always throws me off for a second as I wonder "what model is that?" because I'm so used to the extended ones I have.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 14:16:36


Post by: H.B.M.C.


I have a pair of them, but I haven't build them yet. Have to work up the energy to bend some of the resin panels flat...


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 15:07:31


Post by: thegreatchimp


 sing your life wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
C'mon guys how does this thread not have the majesty of the Razorgor yet?
They did say "recent".


Define "recent".:.


Anything still in production guys. Razorgor ticks that box. Definitely the maddest looking pig miniature I've seen.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 15:45:44


Post by: stroller


The clutch of "big lords" from the End of Times with all the swirly whirly nonsense, and their swirly whirly offspring.

I guess people must paint and transport them, but, put me right off...

Oh yes, and every grey knight model ever....


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 16:26:16


Post by: A.T.


The repentia have still not grown on me. Though the primaris buggy makes me feel the sisters got off lightly, and if I could get even half decent with greenstuff the new repentia with added robes could work...

[Thumb - Painted Repentia.jpg]


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 16:35:37


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


A.T. wrote:
The repentia have still not grown on me. Though the primaris buggy makes me feel the sisters got off lightly, and if I could get even half decent with greenstuff the new repentia with added robes could work...


LOL

I don't like the bathing suits on them.

Yeah I am a grownup and I am well versed in the Anglo-American paradox that hacking people up with chainsaws is wholesome family entertainment while a nipple or naughty bit is a national scandal.

I still think the naughty naughty school girls who need to be punished could have been dressed in rags and bandages preserving their precious modesty and making them look more grimdark. They should also be more emaciated like the flagellents, as is they look kind of well fed and cared for for disgraced prisoners on a suicide mission.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 17:01:17


Post by: Laughing Man


 thegreatchimp wrote:
 sing your life wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
C'mon guys how does this thread not have the majesty of the Razorgor yet?
They did say "recent".


Define "recent".:.


Anything still in production guys. Razorgor ticks that box. Definitely the maddest looking pig miniature I've seen.




The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 17:57:14


Post by: Grimtuff


"Anything still in production" is a kinda terrible barometer as GW still has models from as far back as 1993 (or earlier with the Armour through the ages set) still in production.

27 years ago is not "recent".


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 20:12:02


Post by: amazingturtles


Jackal90 wrote:
For me it has to be the harvester for bonereapers.

The actual model for the most part is solid and looks a great.
Even has an element of comedy thrown in with a stormcasts helmet being rejected.

They then added a crotch skeleton because why not?
To make it worse, it’s a key part of the model so removing it is far more work than it should be.
Easier to cut it flat and cover it with a tabard.


I'm generally one who likes goofy and strange models but this one... yeah, the codpiece friend is just a but too much for me.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 20:16:18


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Now I want to name a band “Codpiece Friend”.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 20:32:23


Post by: NinthMusketeer


 Grimtuff wrote:
"Anything still in production" is a kinda terrible barometer as GW still has models from as far back as 1993 (or earlier with the Armour through the ages set) still in production.

27 years ago is not "recent".
Then we can have a laugh at 27-year-old minis still being sold


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 20:39:08


Post by: amazingturtles


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Now I want to name a band “Codpiece Friend”.


Live the dream! I can play the euphonium


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 22:47:48


Post by: thegreatchimp


 Grimtuff wrote:
"Anything still in production" is a kinda terrible barometer as GW still has models from as far back as 1993 (or earlier with the Armour through the ages set) still in production.

27 years ago is not "recent".
Ah yeah I know. I was thinking of recent as 2004-2020 when I started the thread, but didn'hard think too hard about naming it. Not too important anyways. I just wanted to exclude all the golden oldies like Clown Nagash,Ariel, etc, because there's plenty of threads on that bunch of misfits already.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/07 23:17:35


Post by: angryboy2k


 Dysartes wrote:
 insaniak wrote:

Nah, I love the go-kart. It's the new bikes that miss the mark, for me.


Has anyone figured out how they're meant to steer yet?


Hub-center steering is the the answer you're looking for:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hub-center_steering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOvItKPifB0



The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/08 10:08:28


Post by: sing your life


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Grimtuff wrote:
"Anything still in production" is a kinda terrible barometer as GW still has models from as far back as 1993 (or earlier with the Armour through the ages set) still in production.

27 years ago is not "recent".
Then we can have a laugh at 27-year-old minis still being sold


Some second millennium miniatures [like the old warlocks] don't even look that bad by modern standards.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/08 10:31:11


Post by: Grimtuff


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Grimtuff wrote:
"Anything still in production" is a kinda terrible barometer as GW still has models from as far back as 1993 (or earlier with the Armour through the ages set) still in production.

27 years ago is not "recent".
Then we can have a laugh at 27-year-old minis still being sold


If you want, but Njal Stormcaller in power armour is a classic and that's a hill I'm willing to die on.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/08 11:39:42


Post by: Nevelon


The mirror universe version of this thread, “The best miniature of ancient times” would be full of awesome stuff. There are a lot of classic sculpts that are still in print, and remain classics.

A lot of metal/finecast I’d love to see a straight port over to plastic. Nothing wrong with the looks of the minis, but the material could use an update. Or old models that just need the sprues recut with modern technology. So much wasted potential on the old open frames.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/08 12:34:41


Post by: Vermis


 Nevelon wrote:
The mirror universe version of this thread, “The best miniature of ancient times” would be full of awesome stuff. There are a lot of classic sculpts that are still in print, and remain classics.


15 pages of something similar here.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/786702.page


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/08 16:28:33


Post by: NinthMusketeer


 sing your life wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Grimtuff wrote:
"Anything still in production" is a kinda terrible barometer as GW still has models from as far back as 1993 (or earlier with the Armour through the ages set) still in production.

27 years ago is not "recent".
Then we can have a laugh at 27-year-old minis still being sold


Some second millennium miniatures [like the old warlocks] don't even look that bad by modern standards.
Then they would never appear in this thread in the first place!


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/08 16:57:04


Post by: Vermis


It's like, if you went back in time and shot your grandpa, would you exist to go back in time and shoot your grandpa...?


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/08 17:45:40


Post by: NinthMusketeer


Only if he was a terrible miniature, obviously.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/08 18:58:55


Post by: Vermis


Was there ever a mini made of Warlord Grizgutz?


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/08 19:41:56


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Do the Gates or Antares minis count as recent enough?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Stupid autocorrect keeps turning “of” into “or”.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/08 20:23:57


Post by: Dysartes


 Vermis wrote:
Was there ever a mini made of Warlord Grizgutz?


No, they used metal, resin or plastic.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/08 22:39:27


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


 Dysartes wrote:
 Vermis wrote:
Was there ever a mini made of Warlord Grizgutz?


No, they used metal, resin or plastic.


That one took me a second


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 00:59:41


Post by: Vermis


Dysartes 1 Vermis 0


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 02:31:22


Post by: thegreatchimp


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Do the Gates or Antares minis count as recent enough?
Yup. Any particular models in mind?


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 03:21:19


Post by: bullyboy


I cannot stand the Impulsor...it's just hideous.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 06:22:20


Post by: Vaktathi


 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
How can the Chibi Hawk go unmentioned?


It's from 2010, so that was only like 3 or 4 years ago.
The fact that the Stormhawk is 10 years old makes me feel old, because I still think of it as that newfangled silly looking thing


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 06:56:31


Post by: NinthMusketeer


That 2010 was ten years ago feels like a sick lie. Yet at the same time fething February feels like it was at least a year ago.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 10:20:58


Post by: sing your life


 Grimtuff wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Grimtuff wrote:
"Anything still in production" is a kinda terrible barometer as GW still has models from as far back as 1993 (or earlier with the Armour through the ages set) still in production.

27 years ago is not "recent".
Then we can have a laugh at 27-year-old minis still being sold


If you want, but Njal Stormcaller in power armour is a classic and that's a hill I'm willing to die on.


This one?



Kind of a miss for me.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 13:48:04


Post by: Dysartes


Kid_Kyoto wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
 Vermis wrote:
Was there ever a mini made of Warlord Grizgutz?


No, they used metal, resin or plastic.


That one took me a second


Vermis wrote:Dysartes 1 Vermis 0


Thank you, gentlemen *tips hat*

I'm not a massive fan of the Hydra/Wyvern kit - the general lines are OK, but why is that turret freakin' open-backed?

Plastic Catachan infanty is up there, but I wouldn't define them as "recent".


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 15:12:55


Post by: thegreatchimp


 sing your life wrote:

This one?



Kind of a miss for me.


Same. It's archetypal of those "flat" poses we were stuck with in the 90's. The limitations of casting and all that. I get the nostalgia, but I don't miss them one bit.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 17:29:35


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


 thegreatchimp wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Do the Gates or Antares minis count as recent enough?
Yup. Any particular models in mind?


The Boromite infantry and leadership minis.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 17:43:54


Post by: Vermis


Boromites could've been better, but I think they're a better execution of the 'scaly humanoid' concept than Mantic's Matsudan.

Spoiler:


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 17:54:24


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


I have to strongly disagree there. The Matsudan “sumo lizards” have a pretty unique aesthetic that may be hit or mis, but they don’t look like the sculptor spent an hour rolling little balls of green stuff and smooshing them onto the model.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 18:00:20


Post by: NinthMusketeer


He's like an obese gundam cosplayer!


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 18:03:49


Post by: Grimtuff


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I have to strongly disagree there. The Matsudan “sumo lizards” have a pretty unique aesthetic that may be hit or mis, but they don’t look like the sculptor spent an hour rolling little balls of green stuff and smooshing them onto the model.


Yeah, those were a sure fire hit for me. Saw them for the first time in the newsletter sent out earlier this week and loved them. Though, I'm a sucker for oddball xenos minis.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 18:15:29


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


 Dysartes wrote:


Plastic Catachan infanty is up there, but I wouldn't define them as "recent".




Those new plastic Cadians aren't so good either, bobble headed and with the damn left hand attached to the gun making weapon swaps a real pain. And as an added bonus they only come with half the special weapon options and no heavy weapons or weapon options for the sarge. But they're also like 5 or 6 years old so not really recent.

Hopefully GW will upgrade them soon, they certainly won't let this be the only IG infantry kit for 20+ years.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 19:31:17


Post by: Andredre


The man eater from ogor mawtribes lol


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 20:01:07


Post by: Dysartes


Andredre wrote:
The man eater from ogor mawtribes lol


Which one? There're seven or eight different ones on the GW webstore that I can see.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 20:13:15


Post by: Vermis


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
they don’t look like the sculptor spent an hour rolling little balls of green stuff


No, just one big ball.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 20:17:42


Post by: Grimtuff


 Dysartes wrote:
Andredre wrote:
The man eater from ogor mawtribes lol


Which one? There're seven or eight different ones on the GW webstore that I can see.


Two of which are relegated from the lofty heights of named characters.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 20:20:30


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


 Vermis wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
they don’t look like the sculptor spent an hour rolling little balls of green stuff


No, just one big ball.


The Matsudan have actual textures. Are you just upset at their weight?


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 20:47:49


Post by: Dysartes


 Grimtuff wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
Andredre wrote:
The man eater from ogor mawtribes lol


Which one? There're seven or eight different ones on the GW webstore that I can see.


Two of which are relegated from the lofty heights of named characters.


Really? Which two? I know the Ninja and Pirate were generic on release, and I think the Empire(ish) one with the feathered hat was, too.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 21:26:00


Post by: Grimtuff


 Dysartes wrote:
 Grimtuff wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
Andredre wrote:
The man eater from ogor mawtribes lol


Which one? There're seven or eight different ones on the GW webstore that I can see.


Two of which are relegated from the lofty heights of named characters.


Really? Which two? I know the Ninja and Pirate were generic on release, and I think the Empire(ish) one with the feathered hat was, too.


These two.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Bragg-the-Gutsman
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Golgfag-Maneater

And as I got those links I can see GW hilariously have not changed the URLs for either of them, which includes their old names.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 23:05:56


Post by: Stormonu


Personally, after having acquired the actual Chadian miniatures, they don’t look so bad. However, GWs paint scheme for them is awful.

The VW Taurus actually looks better in the flesh, but I do wish it had been wheeled or half-track.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 23:31:46


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
But they're also like 5 or 6 years old so not really recent.
You're missing a digit. They came out in 2003.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/09 23:41:35


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


They say the first thing to go is the sense of humor.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/10 05:21:08


Post by: sing your life


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
But they're also like 5 or 6 years old so not really recent.
You're missing a digit. They came out in 2003.


My immediate thought on reading that was those Cadians can't possibly have been released around 2014/2015.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/10 05:35:45


Post by: insaniak


Plastic Cadians are a myth. It won't happen.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/10 06:32:52


Post by: Mr Morden


 insaniak wrote:
Plastic Cadians are a myth. It won't happen.

The same was said about new Sisters of Battle.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/10 15:31:39


Post by: Das_Ubermike


 Mr Morden wrote:
 insaniak wrote:
Plastic Cadians are a myth. It won't happen.

The same was said about new Sisters of Battle.


This is an ancient Dakka/40k internet community joke. Starting with the release of the Cityfight supplemental book for 3rd edition 2001 (with Cadians on the cover) the hot rumor was that Cadians would be the next multi-part plastic kit. So after every Game Day some neckbeard would come on here and post that they spoke to a designer and that the plastic cadians would be coming out soon. It wasn't until 2003 and the Eye of Terror that they were finally released, but they really were the plastic sisters of their time.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/10 15:49:56


Post by: thegreatchimp


 Dysartes wrote:
 Vermis wrote:
Was there ever a mini made of Warlord Grizgutz?


No, they used metal, resin or plastic.


I see what you did there Hahaha!!


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/10 16:29:17


Post by: Mangod


 thegreatchimp wrote:
What, in your opinions, are the most horrible miniatures in the current wargame ranges? Whether it's the concept, the sculpting, the pose, or better still all three, please share! Please include pictures for our collective amusement. Models must still be in production, not Oldhammer or Middlehammer - we've all seen Clown Nagash and Sister Dialogous. (which I'll admit I still google from time to time when I need a laugh!)


Am I allowed to nominate limited edition/con-exclusive models? Because I think the Microbrew Marauder qualifies on a conceptual level.



It's a cheesecake model, which I generally don't mind (I've dabbled in Infinity, and that games female models were almost universally cheesecake at one point), but this one manages to fall square in the Uncanny Valley, looking like someone tried to make a sexy version of a Strogg or Servitor.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/10 16:40:14


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


It certainly leads one to ask uncomfortable questions.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/10 16:43:07


Post by: Racerguy180


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
It certainly leads one to ask uncomfortable questions.


uncomfortable for who?


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/10 17:01:44


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
But they're also like 5 or 6 years old so not really recent.
You're missing a digit. They came out in 2003.


Well I'm no fancy math wizard but my gut tells me 2003 was 5 years ago tops.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/10 17:23:41


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Racerguy180 wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
It certainly leads one to ask uncomfortable questions.


uncomfortable for who?


Apparently all the people who found the mini creepy or disturbing. Check out the thread.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/10 17:34:55


Post by: Tycho


As gw becomes less stylized and more generic scifi there are many new releases that I dislike, with every new one seeming worse than the last.


It's funny - this has come up in a few threads recently. People keep using that term - "generic Scifi" - I do not think it means what they think it means ...



It's also interesting because there are a lot of very well done models mentioned in this thread where people simply dislike the look/style and simply label the model as "bad". There's a pretty big gulf between a truly terrible model (Starship Troopers Brain Bug complete with .5lb of extra metal flashing), and a model that is well done but that you dislike the style of. Always bums me out when I see it. "I don't like it so it must suck" is no way to live your life.

I'd like to nominate the "Battlefield Evolution" pre-paints from Mongoose. If anyone remembers originals ... man .....


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/10 18:04:17


Post by: Momotaro


I got a ton of the Battlefield Evolution figures for £1 per box on clearance. They're ok, really. Apart from the googly thousand-yard stare everyone had, and the way that "consistent scale" meant "must fit in this box", and yeah, the paintjobs.

They certainly weren't worth the asking price (not with better-painted diecast models available cheaper), and 1:64 (with 1:72 tanks) was an odd scale, but I still play games like Spectre Ops with them.

In many ways, it was a sad story. Corgi had a range of Iraq War diecasts at the time, but didn't want to get into wargaming when Mongoose approached them. The Chinese factory definitely got one over Mongoose. And Mongoose were moving ahead with sone nice-looking Starship Trooper prepaints when the licence got yanked.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/10 18:07:12


Post by: Mangod


Tycho wrote:
It's also interesting because there are a lot of very well done models mentioned in this thread where people simply dislike the look/style and simply label the model as "bad".


Well, the OP did specify:

 thegreatchimp wrote:
What, in your opinions, are the most horrible miniatures in the current wargame ranges? Whether it's the concept, the sculpting, the pose, or better still all three, please share!


So calling out models because you find the look/style/idea of the model to be poorly thought out or executed should be fair game.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/10 19:10:21


Post by: thegreatchimp


Tycho wrote:
It's also interesting because there are a lot of very well done models mentioned in this thread where people simply dislike the look/style and simply label the model as "bad". There's a pretty big gulf between a truly terrible model (Starship Troopers Brain Bug complete with .5lb of extra metal flashing), and a model that is well done but that you dislike the style of. Always bums me out when I see it. "I don't like it so it must suck" is no way to live your life.


I get what you're saying, but why let it bother you? Technically we should prefix every criticism of a model (on the whole site) with "in my opinion," but it's a given -art appreciation is about as arbitrary as it gets...


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/10 19:46:58


Post by: Tycho


So calling out models because you find the look/style/idea of the model to be poorly thought out or executed should be fair game.


I don't think you get what I'm saying.

I get what you're saying, but why let it bother you? Technically we should prefix every criticism of a model (on the whole site) with "in my opinion," but it's a given -art appreciation is about as arbitrary as it gets...


It doesn't necessarily bother me, it's just (for some reason) a surprise everytime I come across someone who can't separate "That's well done but I personally dislike the aesthetic" from "that's terrible because I don't like it", (which is a pretty poor and limiting way to look at things).

Personally, I think the conversation is a lot better when there are actual reasoned debates. So for example, to say you don't personally like a style or a look is always interesting because it illustrates different likes/tastes/dislikes etc and can help you see something in a new way. So if someone likes something I dislike or vice-versa, there's a base for conversation now. There are some truly, objectively bad models, but in this day and age they are not as plentiful as they used to be. Take the Mechanicus horses for example - from a design standpoint they are actually very well thought out, they are well sculpted, and they have a very unique aesthetic that harkens back to old school calvary models. If you don't like that, it's cool, but they aren't "the worst models in recent history" because of someone's personal distaste of the art style.

On the other hand, there are truly BAD miniatures. Poorly made, poorly sculpted, just plain bad. I just wish people could learn more to seperate the two things. Something can be very well done but still not appeal to you. That doesn't mean "it sucks" lol

I got a ton of the Battlefield Evolution figures for £1 per box on clearance. They're ok, really. Apart from the googly thousand-yard stare everyone had, and the way that "consistent scale" meant "must fit in this box", and yeah, the paintjobs.


The few sets I saw in person (of the infantry) were just so weirdly tall and thin. The base sculpts were not as good as some of the "little green army men" I've seen over the years. Of course MGP's build up of how great they were going to be probably didn't help either ...


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/10 20:37:07


Post by: Irkjoe


Tycho wrote:
As gw becomes less stylized and more generic scifi there are many new releases that I dislike, with every new one seeming worse than the last.


It's funny - this has come up in a few threads recently. People keep using that term - "generic Scifi" - I do not think it means what they think it means ...



It's also interesting because there are a lot of very well done models mentioned in this thread where people simply dislike the look/style and simply label the model as "bad". There's a pretty big gulf between a truly terrible model (Starship Troopers Brain Bug complete with .5lb of extra metal flashing), and a model that is well done but that you dislike the style of. Always bums me out when I see it. "I don't like it so it must suck" is no way to live your life.

I'd like to nominate the "Battlefield Evolution" pre-paints from Mongoose. If anyone remembers originals ... man .....


That's fair I think you're right, I'll try to be more specific. The style is changing from the blanche/miller/smith grim dark that defined the game and becoming sleeker and imo silly. The modern military look is particularly out of place. It also doesn't help that the studio produces some genuinely ugly models like the battle sister apes.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/10 20:45:23


Post by: Tycho


That's fair I think you're right, I'll try to be more specific. The style is changing from the blanche/miller/smith grim dark that defined the game and becoming sleeker and imo silly. The modern military look is particularly out of place. It also doesn't help that the studio produces some genuinely ugly models like the battle sister apes.


I would argue that things like the horses still fit the Blanchistu style (but are, admittedly, an evolution of it), and the tech priests still look like they walked right of a Blanche painting. On the other hand, much as I love the Archeopter, I can see where your point is coming from. I WANT to like it. I really really do, but I can't quite get there. There's a design exercise where you deliberately try to push a design one step too far. You just keep going until you hit that point, and then you go back one step and that's supposed to be the "cutting edge" version of the design. With the Archeopter it's kind of like they went that "one step too far" and then didn't reel it back in. I can agree it has a more silly, almost optimistic feel to its design that the older more grimdark stuff does not agree with!


Far as the modern military stuff - I go back and forth. A lot of folks don't realize that much of the 40k universe has always been based on real world tech. Like the Land Raider being based on early ww1 tanks for example. So that aspect is not uncommon, and it generally works because the references the models were based on were slightly more obscure. It can definitely be a little weird to see a new Space Marine tank come out that looks like the put the turret of a Cheiftan tank on top of a shipping container and called it a day, so if THAT'S where you're coming from, I can see your point.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/10 20:52:06


Post by: insaniak


Yeah, the new Marine tanks are clunky and ugly designs, that miss the character of the older tanks in favour of just taking boxes and gluing as many guns as will fit on there.

It's weird that they nailed the Primaris aesthetic so well (mostly) with the Marines, but missed the boat so badly with the vehicles.

The new admech stuff, though - I love all of it, and find it a bit weird that people think cyborgs on robot horses isn't grimdark enough.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/10 21:15:23


Post by: Cannibal


This showed up on my social media feed the other day...

[Thumb - 117125441_3194683303914587_1964086603126233362_n.jpg]


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/10 21:41:25


Post by: NinthMusketeer


 insaniak wrote:
Yeah, the new Marine tanks are clunky and ugly designs, that miss the character of the older tanks in favour of just taking boxes and gluing as many guns as will fit on there.

It's weird that they nailed the Primaris aesthetic so well (mostly) with the Marines, but missed the boat so badly with the vehicles.

The new admech stuff, though - I love all of it, and find it a bit weird that people think cyborgs on robot horses isn't grimdark enough.
I specifically like the 'clunky' feel of the primaris vehicles, to me it fits with the idea that Cawl is throwing these designs together as a secret project without the ability to do proper field testing or peer review. They lack that 'tried and true' feel vanilla marine vehicles have where they are variant builds off a few core templates.

Random sidenote, why do people complain that primaris vehicles defy the technological regression theme when they are floating around on a crappier version of pre-existing land speeder tech?


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/10 21:58:05


Post by: insaniak


I would suspect that most critics of the vehicles won't have read the fluff for them. Going by the aesthetic, though, an anti grav tank is clearly more advanced tech than a tracked tank.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/11 05:44:08


Post by: KingmanHighborn


 Cannibal wrote:
This showed up on my social media feed the other day...


Ohhh nice.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/11 08:23:44


Post by: Vermis


Tycho, that's a lot of filibustering.

Here's fewer words.

If it looks like something sucky and quacks like something sucky, it sucks.



 Mangod wrote:
but this one manages to fall square in the Uncanny Valley, looking like someone tried to make a sexy version of a Strogg or Servitor.


'Uncanny valley' refers to something that looks like a duck a human and perhaps moves like a human, but it's just off enough to creep the viewer out. So the mini looks like someone's weird clanky-cyborg fetish; but not part of the uncanny valley.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 insaniak wrote:
I would suspect that most critics of the vehicles won't have read the fluff for them.


Is that kinda like modern art where you have to read some attached essay on the offchance it'll stop you thinking 'urgh'?


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/11 09:56:13


Post by: Mangod


 Vermis wrote:

 Mangod wrote:
but this one manages to fall square in the Uncanny Valley, looking like someone tried to make a sexy version of a Strogg or Servitor.


'Uncanny valley' refers to something that looks like a duck a human and perhaps moves like a human, but it's just off enough to creep the viewer out. So the mini looks like someone's weird clanky-cyborg fetish; but not part of the uncanny valley.


Maybe the wrong words, let me try to explain my thoughts...

The problem for me is that their attempt at "cyborg-fetish" just leaves me thinking the "Show me"-scene from the Robocop remake is about to start playing. Maybe if the arms or legs were bulkier, or something to make it look more like she's stripped down her armor and less like all her limbs (and possibly part of the torso) have been surgically replaced.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/08/11 13:25:01


Post by: Tycho


Yeah, the new Marine tanks are clunky and ugly designs, that miss the character of the older tanks in favour of just taking boxes and gluing as many guns as will fit on there.


To be fair, "clunky and ugly" fits the old stuff too. It was just a "different" clunky and ugly. Things were better back then. Get off my lawn!



Tycho, that's a lot of filibustering.

Here's fewer words.

If it looks like something sucky and quacks like something sucky, it sucks.


Genius. Excellent contribution. Do you have a newsletter?


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/04 22:17:36


Post by: thegreatchimp


Just for anyone unfamiliar with them, these boys deserve a pic: The sculpting is pretty good in all fairness, (though the boots could have been more subtle) but that's about all that stands to them.

I could sort of buy the idea of Inceptors flying around, raining death with their bullet hoses, even if they're a bit too Command and Conquer for my tastes. But a long-barrelled autocannon being fired while hopping around like an oversized rabbit? "What?" and "How?" were my initial reactions, then just "Why?" I think the concept could have been genuinely great for Orks (because they're wacky enough to make it work) or Tau (because Mech-sized units firing automatic weapons while on the hop is more feasible) But Astartes? Nah.


[Thumb - Capture.JPG]


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/04 22:25:54


Post by: malfred


I don't know. I love the Judiciar, helm and all. I shelled
out 70USD for the space marines in the indomitus
box just because of him.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/04 22:32:22


Post by: amazingturtles


 malfred wrote:
I don't know. I love the Judiciar, helm and all. I shelled
out 70USD for the space marines in the indomitus
box just because of him.


It's all subjective and you can love whatever you dang well want


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/04 23:08:37


Post by: malfred


There's just an amazing amount of hate and head
swapping around around that model


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/06 08:21:09


Post by: Pacific


 thegreatchimp wrote:
Just for anyone unfamiliar with them, these boys deserve a pic: The sculpting is pretty good in all fairness, (though the boots could have been more subtle) but that's about all that stands to them.

I could sort of buy the idea of Inceptors flying around, raining death with their bullet hoses, even if they're a bit too Command and Conquer for my tastes. But a long-barrelled autocannon being fired while hopping around like an oversized rabbit? "What?" and "How?" were my initial reactions, then just "Why?" I think the concept could have been genuinely great for Orks (because they're wacky enough to make it work) or Tau (because Mech-sized units firing automatic weapons while on the hop is more feasible) But Astartes? Nah.



Yep - you see those and you imagine them corkscrewing wildly through the air as they fire (which as you say would have worked fine for Orks)



The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/06 14:30:01


Post by: Mangod


 thegreatchimp wrote:
Just for anyone unfamiliar with them, these boys deserve a pic: The sculpting is pretty good in all fairness, (though the boots could have been more subtle) but that's about all that stands to them.

I could sort of buy the idea of Inceptors flying around, raining death with their bullet hoses, even if they're a bit too Command and Conquer for my tastes. But a long-barrelled autocannon being fired while hopping around like an oversized rabbit? "What?" and "How?" were my initial reactions, then just "Why?" I think the concept could have been genuinely great for Orks (because they're wacky enough to make it work) or Tau (because Mech-sized units firing automatic weapons while on the hop is more feasible) But Astartes? Nah.



Yeah, I see what you (and Pacific) mean. I can understand the concept of these being highly mobile heavy support, y'know: bracing, firing, then jumping to a new position, bracing, firing, repeat. But the fact that they look like they're firing whilst in the air, brings to mind images of Dick Dastardly or particularly bad FPS PVP matches.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/06 15:47:21


Post by: Mr. Burning


 Mangod wrote:
 thegreatchimp wrote:
Just for anyone unfamiliar with them, these boys deserve a pic: The sculpting is pretty good in all fairness, (though the boots could have been more subtle) but that's about all that stands to them.

I could sort of buy the idea of Inceptors flying around, raining death with their bullet hoses, even if they're a bit too Command and Conquer for my tastes. But a long-barrelled autocannon being fired while hopping around like an oversized rabbit? "What?" and "How?" were my initial reactions, then just "Why?" I think the concept could have been genuinely great for Orks (because they're wacky enough to make it work) or Tau (because Mech-sized units firing automatic weapons while on the hop is more feasible) But Astartes? Nah.



Yeah, I see what you (and Pacific) mean. I can understand the concept of these being highly mobile heavy support, y'know: bracing, firing, then jumping to a new position, bracing, firing, repeat. But the fact that they look like they're firing whilst in the air, brings to mind images of Dick Dastardly or particularly bad FPS PVP matches.


Just goes to show GW's insidious plan...Hey Ork players, you want fun minis doing wildly improbable things, why not start a Primaris force and paint them green.


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 thegreatchimp wrote:
What, in your opinions, are the most horrible miniatures in the current wargame ranges? Whether it's the concept, the sculpting, the pose, or better still all three, please share! Please include pictures for our collective amusement. Models must still be in production, not Oldhammer or Middlehammer - we've all seen Clown Nagash and Sister Dialogous. (which I'll admit I still google from time to time when I need a laugh!)


Am I allowed to nominate limited edition/con-exclusive models? Because I think the Microbrew Marauder qualifies on a conceptual level.



It's a cheesecake model, which I generally don't mind (I've dabbled in Infinity, and that games female models were almost universally cheesecake at one point), but this one manages to fall square in the Uncanny Valley, looking like someone tried to make a sexy version of a Strogg or Servitor.


There are no redeeming features for this mini. Terrible posing and by the looks of it some proportions. The best that could be said is that the render view could be better but.....


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/07 15:37:07


Post by: Henry


Here's one from Steamforged's dead GuildBall. This is Minerva of the Falconer's guild. You might look at her and think there's nothing wrong with her. Good pose, nice enough detail considering the cheap plastic material. The sculpt is OK. Except when they cast her they forgot to put her face in the machine. Every detail on that face was drawn by the artist. They released a model with no face and thought nobody would notice. Idiots.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/08 03:10:21


Post by: malfred


Wow. That's just.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/08 08:23:41


Post by: DalekCheese


Kayback wrote:

Look at almost any veteran in combat. Their gear will be stripped down to bare essentials that accomplish the mission without any superfluous garbage. Yet these veterans are carrying everything including the Kitchen Sink. I DO like the Death Watch Veteran Kill Team, including the shield guy.



>Marines
>realism

Pick one and only one.


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 Dysartes wrote:


Plastic Catachan infanty is up there, but I wouldn't define them as "recent".




Those new plastic Cadians aren't so good either, bobble headed and with the damn left hand attached to the gun making weapon swaps a real pain. And as an added bonus they only come with half the special weapon options and no heavy weapons or weapon options for the sarge. But they're also like 5 or 6 years old so not really recent.

Hopefully GW will upgrade them soon, they certainly won't let this be the only IG infantry kit for 20+ years.


5 or 6 years? I thought they came out 2003 or so?


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/08 09:44:14


Post by: Kayback


 DalekCheese wrote:
Kayback wrote:

Look at almost any veteran in combat. Their gear will be stripped down to bare essentials that accomplish the mission without any superfluous garbage. Yet these veterans are carrying everything including the Kitchen Sink. I DO like the Death Watch Veteran Kill Team, including the shield guy.



>Marines
>realism

Pick one and only one.




Lol I know, looking for realism in Space Fantasy is pretty dumb. Maybe "believable"? "not quite so farcical"?

Ah waddeva.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/08 09:53:59


Post by: Pacific


My grandfather handed down a box of those plastic Cadians to me, they had been given to him by his father who had been given them as a thankyou gift by a French soldier at Verdun.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/08 20:03:22


Post by: Gordy2000


Can I nominate this brand new horror show?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/09/07/model-focus-avalenor-the-stoneheart-king

A giant cow-man with an actual mountain on it. I mean, the whole range of new elves leaves me cold, but this abomination takes the cake.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/08 20:37:01


Post by: amazingturtles


 Pacific wrote:
My grandfather handed down a box of those plastic Cadians to me, they had been given to him by his father who had been given them as a thankyou gift by a French soldier at Verdun.


I heard they found some plastic cadians at lascaux


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/08 20:40:44


Post by: thegreatchimp


 Gordy2000 wrote:
Can I nominate this brand new horror show?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/09/07/model-focus-avalenor-the-stoneheart-king

A giant cow-man with an actual mountain on it. I mean, the whole range of new elves leaves me cold, but this abomination takes the cake.


Holy Dog, that is a strange one! Losing the mountain would be a good start.

I don't find the the cow iconography awful, so much as conceptually weird. Elves being agile and graceful, there's a lot more suitable spiritual animals for them surely.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/08 20:42:35


Post by: Mr Morden


 Gordy2000 wrote:
Can I nominate this brand new horror show?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/09/07/model-focus-avalenor-the-stoneheart-king

A giant cow-man with an actual mountain on it. I mean, the whole range of new elves leaves me cold, but this abomination takes the cake.


I am not sure about it......its so very different and in tune with bizareness of true religions - have you ever read the description of what Angels look like.....

Still a million times better than Centurions....


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/08 20:45:22


Post by: Inquisitor Gideon


 Gordy2000 wrote:
Can I nominate this brand new horror show?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/09/07/model-focus-avalenor-the-stoneheart-king

A giant cow-man with an actual mountain on it. I mean, the whole range of new elves leaves me cold, but this abomination takes the cake.


Absoultely not. He's a great piece.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/08 20:58:18


Post by: amazingturtles


He's not to my taste, but i'm just not a big fan of bigger models in general (with some exceptions)

I kind of like the idea behind the theme, and heck, i appreciate changes from the stereotypes of elves


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/08 21:51:25


Post by: Gordy2000


Absoultely not. He's a great piece.


Of course, aesthetic taste is entirely subjective and the model is technically well executed, but still, cow elves....

I see people complain about how busy GW models are getting - I can see their point now.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/08 22:33:03


Post by: Snake Tortoise


I'm no fan of the new CSM characters. Abaddon is okay, but the master of executions, sorcerer and dark apostle look like cackling villains who appear in one episode of a TV show before getting wasted by the good guys. The chaos lord with the hammer is fine, except for the head with the topknot. For me, that makes him a Black Legion character and not suitable for Alpha Legion, Night Lords, Word Bearers, Iron Warriors or any of the cult legions. The head and body are one piece of course.

The only CSM HQ I really like is the terminator lord because it's quite generic. I'm so disappointed GW didn't go down the road of default HQ models with multiple head and weapon options. I'd love a mega armour warboss along those lines


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/08 22:34:45


Post by: thegreatchimp


Speaking of busy / cluttered models, I believe Mortarion is the worst offender of all. Pose is good, the detail of the sculpt is incredible, but completely excessive. There is just WAY too much going on with that model. It's as though the sculptor wanted to do as many different textures/materials as possible. In particular, the sheer amount of trailing objects is playing tricks with my eyes. I imagine it's also the absolute pits trying to store and transport it without bending something. Which is something that puts me off a lot of the recent large monster models, but I digress.

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The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/09 13:38:39


Post by: Pacific


 Gordy2000 wrote:
Can I nominate this brand new horror show?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/09/07/model-focus-avalenor-the-stoneheart-king

A giant cow-man with an actual mountain on it. I mean, the whole range of new elves leaves me cold, but this abomination takes the cake.


I quite like that they are trying to do something different, it kind of fits with how utterly bat-gak insane the Age of Sigmar universe is.

Giant cow elves are probably one of the more mundane things you would see if you spent any time there.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/10 05:09:43


Post by: ZergSmasher


 thegreatchimp wrote:
Speaking of busy / cluttered models, I believe Mortarion is the worst offender of all. Pose is good, the detail of the sculpt is incredible, but completely excessive. There is just WAY too much going on with that model. It's as though the sculptor wanted to do as many different textures/materials as possible. In particular, the sheer amount of trailing objects is playing tricks with my eyes. I imagine it's also the absolute pits trying to store and transport it without bending something. Which is something that puts me off a lot of the recent large monster models, but I digress.

Eh, he's a Primarch, those kind of special models should be fairly busy. I had an absolute blast painting mine. I totally get you on the worrying about breaking stuff; I had to handle the model like eggs or something to avoid breaking or bending those chains and it made me nervous. Still, that's one of GW's best models and a big part of the reason I started Death Guard (although I have now since sold all my Chaos stuff).


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/10 16:01:08


Post by: thegreatchimp


 ZergSmasher wrote:

Eh, he's a Primarch, those kind of special models should be fairly busy. I had an absolute blast painting mine. I totally get you on the worrying about breaking stuff; I had to handle the model like eggs or something to avoid breaking or bending those chains and it made me nervous. Still, that's one of GW's best models and a big part of the reason I started Death Guard (although I have now since sold all my Chaos stuff).


To each their own. I don't like the New Nurgle stuff at all, I find it OTT and cartoonish. Except the Beast of Nurgle as it cracks me up. I'm a big fan of the OOP plaguemarines though.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/10 16:08:56


Post by: Tycho


A giant cow-man with an actual mountain on it. I mean, the whole range of new elves leaves me cold, but this abomination takes the cake.


That one is rough for me too. I like the idea of it, but the execution is a little rough. It's a little confused and all over the place for me. He's a mountain, but also a bull, but he's got a vaguely lion/cow face, and croquet mallets for weapons? And his stance is oddly unbalanced. It looks like you could tip him over easily. The proportions are just awkward.

I'm a big fan of the OOP plaguemarines though.


There are three sets of OOP Plague Marines. Out of curiosity, which one did you like? There's the original metals, then came the plastic set with big pot bellies, then came the plastic set that would eventually become a fine-cast set before being replaced by the modern Plague Marines.

Personally, I really liked the original plastics from 2nd ed.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/10 16:24:04


Post by: thegreatchimp


Tycho wrote:
There are three sets of OOP Plague Marines. Out of curiosity, which one did you like? There's the original metals, then came the plastic set with big pot bellies, then came the plastic set that would eventually become a fine-cast set before being replaced by the modern Plague Marines. Personally, I really liked the original plastics from 2nd ed.


I liked both the finecast GW ones and the Forge World ones. I think they nailed the aesthetic.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/10 17:05:21


Post by: Grimtuff


Tycho wrote:

I'm a big fan of the OOP plaguemarines though.


There are three sets of OOP Plague Marines. Out of curiosity, which one did you like? There's the original metals, then came the plastic set with big pot bellies, then came the plastic set that would eventually become a fine-cast set before being replaced by the modern Plague Marines.

Personally, I really liked the original plastics from 2nd ed.


There are five actually (six if you count the FW kit).

These guys, which came before the first ones you mentioned.
And these, which are the very first Nurgle marines.




The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/10 17:11:26


Post by: gorgon


Tycho wrote:
It's also interesting because there are a lot of very well done models mentioned in this thread where people simply dislike the look/style and simply label the model as "bad". There's a pretty big gulf between a truly terrible model (Starship Troopers Brain Bug complete with .5lb of extra metal flashing), and a model that is well done but that you dislike the style of. Always bums me out when I see it. "I don't like it so it must suck" is no way to live your life.


That is, however, life in 2020. Because we communicate more and more in short, typed bursts -- and seek reactions/rewards to those bursts -- it drives people toward those types of responses.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/10 19:07:51


Post by: Tycho


These guys, which came before the first ones you mentioned.
And these, which are the very first Nurgle marines.


These are the ones I was talking about when I mentioned the original metals, a,though I must admit I had forgotten about the FW ones which were pretty cool imo.

That is, however, life in 2020. Because we communicate more and more in short, typed bursts -- and seek reactions/rewards to those bursts -- it drives people toward those types of responses.


I don't disagree, but that doesn't mean we have to just accept it.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/10 19:11:46


Post by: Agamemnon2


 Grimtuff wrote:

There are five actually (six if you count the FW kit).

These guys, which came before the first ones you mentioned.
And these, which are the very first Nurgle marines.

I will always love the original goofy mutant Chaos Marines. The sculpting style of the times was cartoony at the best of times, so they leaned on that hard and created some wonderfully varied and interesting looking dudes. The following iterations of Chaos guys got a lot more uniform and it wouldn't be until the Possessed that some of that same level of outright mutation and weird biology would be reintroduced.

I've considered collecting a kill team of those sculpts, but they're really rather expensive these days. That three-armed Tzeench guy with the plasma pistol and staff will always be my favorite. He looks especially rad riding on a Disc.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/10 20:30:30


Post by: Grimtuff


 Agamemnon2 wrote:
 Grimtuff wrote:

There are five actually (six if you count the FW kit).

These guys, which came before the first ones you mentioned.
And these, which are the very first Nurgle marines.

I will always love the original goofy mutant Chaos Marines. The sculpting style of the times was cartoony at the best of times, so they leaned on that hard and created some wonderfully varied and interesting looking dudes. The following iterations of Chaos guys got a lot more uniform and it wouldn't be until the Possessed that some of that same level of outright mutation and weird biology would be reintroduced.

I've considered collecting a kill team of those sculpts, but they're really rather expensive these days. That three-armed Tzeench guy with the plasma pistol and staff will always be my favorite. He looks especially rad riding on a Disc.


The art of that mini is always stuck in my head from when I first started this hobby. Gave me nightmares that pic did, never even knew it was an actual mini till years later.



Plus, when searching for that image just now I see how it seems to have subconsciously influenced a lot of my Chaos minis with a few of my DG characters have horse skull heads/helmets.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/10 21:39:10


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


This utter utter utter utter utter utter fiddly sodbiscuit.

Sure, he looks great on the box. But having just (not quite accurately) built him?

Never. Again. Give me metal Hive Tyrants and Penitent Engines. Just not this awkward, fiddly, easily bent kit.


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The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/10 21:40:34


Post by: thegreatchimp


 Grimtuff wrote:


The art of that mini is always stuck in my head from when I first started this hobby. Gave me nightmares that pic did, never even knew it was an actual mini till years later.



Remind you of anyone? Mortis was my source of nightmares as a 7-year old.

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The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/10 22:38:09


Post by: Overread


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
This utter utter utter utter utter utter fiddly sodbiscuit.

Sure, he looks great on the box. But having just (not quite accurately) built him?

Never. Again. Give me metal Hive Tyrants and Penitent Engines. Just not this awkward, fiddly, easily bent kit.



NEVER play Daughters of Khaine - Khinerai look outstanding but MY GODS they are fragile. I've not broken one, but I'm terrified I will at some point. They are flying on their thin tails within wings which each wing "finger" ends with a long tapered bit of plastic. It's just a model build around fragility - and they use freaking spears as weapons too!
THAT said I own loads of them and whilst I don't "need" more I'll end up with more when the slaanesh/DOK duel set comes out - they look fantastic and fun and really great.

Now I jst need to work out how to get a magnet under them so that I can prise them off a magnetic sheet without snapping them off the base

One downside of GW going digital is that we are getting fewer practical models for gaming and more fragile ones.



PS I've not built him yet, but my fear of a model like that isn't building; its painting. All those fragile parts; all those bits that cover other bits and make my fingers shiver at the thought. Also I hate how so many models want you to build them in stages- before painting so you can get to all the bits. Takes the fun out of building and "finishing" a model building wise (then again I say that as a frequent model builder and fearful infrequent painter)


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/10 22:40:24


Post by: Pacific


 Grimtuff wrote:
 Agamemnon2 wrote:
 Grimtuff wrote:

There are five actually (six if you count the FW kit).

These guys, which came before the first ones you mentioned.
And these, which are the very first Nurgle marines.

I will always love the original goofy mutant Chaos Marines. The sculpting style of the times was cartoony at the best of times, so they leaned on that hard and created some wonderfully varied and interesting looking dudes. The following iterations of Chaos guys got a lot more uniform and it wouldn't be until the Possessed that some of that same level of outright mutation and weird biology would be reintroduced.

I've considered collecting a kill team of those sculpts, but they're really rather expensive these days. That three-armed Tzeench guy with the plasma pistol and staff will always be my favorite. He looks especially rad riding on a Disc.


The art of that mini is always stuck in my head from when I first started this hobby. Gave me nightmares that pic did, never even knew it was an actual mini till years later.



Plus, when searching for that image just now I see how it seems to have subconsciously influenced a lot of my Chaos minis with a few of my DG characters have horse skull heads/helmets.


Me too, remember being similarly creeped out by it.The artwork along with the text is far, far more unsettling than any amount of spikes, skulls, and angry looking guys could ever be.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/10 23:52:55


Post by: Big Mac


That space wolf flying brick, wolf riders, Santa Claus, and their FW terminators; Cadian and catachans are old and outdated, but they are universal and good for their time.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/11 01:15:25


Post by: thegreatchimp


 Big Mac wrote:
That space wolf flying brick, wolf riders, Santa Claus, and their FW terminators; Cadian and catachans are old and outdated, but they are universal and good for their time.


I'll see your Santa and the Brick, and raise you one Lord of the Dance.

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The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/11 01:33:58


Post by: ZergSmasher


 thegreatchimp wrote:
 Big Mac wrote:
That space wolf flying brick, wolf riders, Santa Claus, and their FW terminators; Cadian and catachans are old and outdated, but they are universal and good for their time.


I'll see your Santa and the Brick, and raise you one Lord of the Dance.

Nah, he's not dancing. He just wants to give you a big ol' hug!


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/11 01:42:53


Post by: Vaktathi


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
This utter utter utter utter utter utter fiddly sodbiscuit.

Sure, he looks great on the box. But having just (not quite accurately) built him?

Never. Again. Give me metal Hive Tyrants and Penitent Engines. Just not this awkward, fiddly, easily bent kit.

This is one of those that, just as much as assembling, I just have absolutely zero desire to attempt to paint that. That piece is something that should have been a conversion diorama, not an out-of-the-box basic setup.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/11 01:48:15


Post by: Eldarain


 Big Mac wrote:
That space wolf flying brick, wolf riders, Santa Claus, and their FW terminators; Cadian and catachans are old and outdated, but they are universal and good for their time.

As someone who started them in 2nd this is all I can think about the vast majority of the releases from 5th on:
Spoiler:



The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/11 02:00:16


Post by: Ouze


I'm not sure if I can put my finger on it, but I loathe the FOMO SM Librarian in Terminator armor.


Spoiler:


I feel like he is comically misproportioned. Why is the top half of his body so big? Why are his arms so long?

Or maybe he's not much worse than any other unhelmeted SM in Terminator armor. Maybe the problem is that this is an under-par sculpt that was announced at the same time as 2 really great sculpts... but rational or not, I hate that Librarian.



The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/11 07:14:02


Post by: Pacific


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
This utter utter utter utter utter utter fiddly sodbiscuit.

Sure, he looks great on the box. But having just (not quite accurately) built him?

Never. Again. Give me metal Hive Tyrants and Penitent Engines. Just not this awkward, fiddly, easily bent kit.



Hah! Yes those old.metal hive tyrants. Probably second only to the old metal Fantasy dragons, in terms of how likely they were to fall to pieces on the tabletop during a game (to the cry of "not again!")


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/11 07:30:21


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I worked for GW during the ear of the last metal Tyrant.

Oh gods the number I had to assemble which were not my own.

How cruel fate mocked me!


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/11 10:49:52


Post by: Statistx


 Ouze wrote:
I'm not sure if I can put my finger on it, but I loathe the FOMO SM Librarian in Terminator armor.

I feel like he is comically misproportioned. Why is the top half of his body so big? Why are his arms so long?


I don't like any of the unhelmeted Terminators, or at least I haven't seen one I like.The more stuff they have behind and above their head, the worse it looks imo.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/11 11:02:05


Post by: Slipspace


Statistx wrote:
 Ouze wrote:
I'm not sure if I can put my finger on it, but I loathe the FOMO SM Librarian in Terminator armor.

I feel like he is comically misproportioned. Why is the top half of his body so big? Why are his arms so long?


I don't like any of the unhelmeted Terminators, or at least I haven't seen one I like.The more stuff they have behind and above their head, the worse it looks imo.


That's pretty much it. Terminators don't work, anatomically. The proportions are way off and the body position would be impossible. If you put a helmet on the model it obscures that by removing any identifiable body parts so your brain sort of fills in what should look right. Once you put bare heads in there it starts to look bad. It's the same as the Centurion models, but they're a lot worse IMO.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/11 11:23:49


Post by: Pacific


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I worked for GW during the ear of the last metal Tyrant.

Oh gods the number I had to assemble which were not my own.

How cruel fate mocked me!


Ah brilliant - yes I had a fair few of those, mums coming in with a box of bits and "my little lad is so upset, any chance you could... ?"

I may have accepted foodstuff bribes upon occasion


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/11 11:30:30


Post by: Overread


Tyrants weren't the worst - the worst was Hormagaunts! The old metal "I'm not an alien but I am" type ones that had no hope at all of standing up without modification.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/11 11:44:11


Post by: Nevelon


 Overread wrote:
Tyrants weren't the worst - the worst was Hormagaunts! The old metal "I'm not an alien but I am" type ones that had no hope at all of standing up without modification.


Don’t you go saying mean things about Tippy! She’s sensitive about her center of gravity.


I put together an old Hive Tyrant for a friend. Not fun. Actually have an old metal one in parts in a box I need to build for my own swarm. Not looking forward to it.

Back in the days of metal, minis falling over was an issue. Plastic lets them do some nice things that would be impossible before, but sometimes just because you can do something does not mean you should. Like all the held up on smoke and ribbons models they love to do. Lovely on the shelf, murder to transport and play with.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/11 12:07:37


Post by: Not Online!!!


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
This utter utter utter utter utter utter fiddly sodbiscuit.

Sure, he looks great on the box. But having just (not quite accurately) built him?

Never. Again. Give me metal Hive Tyrants and Penitent Engines. Just not this awkward, fiddly, easily bent kit.



Yes, this, GW has also a bit more of an obssession these days with extremely fiddly.

Personal favourite is the splintered Fang warband, it looks great, can be used for a lot of things, but BUT, the bloody net is just EEUUUUUUUUUUUUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I mean the bloody arm with the net has 4 ! seperate bloody connections you need to clip on a net that IS highly bloody fidly beyond all reasonable standards.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/11 12:09:52


Post by: Max Moray


Tycho wrote:
There's a pretty big gulf between a truly terrible model (Starship Troopers Brain Bug complete with .5lb of extra metal flashing)...


Hey, I actually lliked my brainbug.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/11 13:29:37


Post by: thegreatchimp


 Nevelon wrote:
Plastic lets them do some nice things that would be impossible before, but sometimes just because you can do something does not mean you should
This should be the first rule of modern miniature design. I really hope the craze with particle effects and fragile base attachments would just end. The former looks gak 90% of the time, and the latter is an impracticality.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/11 16:36:23


Post by: Dysartes


Yeah, someone needs to get Dr. Ian Malcolm in to talk to the GW CAD Team, pronto.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/12 13:59:02


Post by: Mangod


Tycho wrote:
A giant cow-man with an actual mountain on it. I mean, the whole range of new elves leaves me cold, but this abomination takes the cake.


That one is rough for me too. I like the idea of it, but the execution is a little rough. It's a little confused and all over the place for me. He's a mountain, but also a bull, but he's got a vaguely lion/cow face, and croquet mallets for weapons? And his stance is oddly unbalanced. It looks like you could tip him over easily. The proportions are just awkward.


I actually like the idea of a bull-headed mountain-god, sounds rad, but the proportions just throw the whole thing off: the arms and especially the legs look far too thin compared to the bulk of the torso. If the limbs were thicker, I'd probably like it a whole lot more. Look at the Sons of Behemat; regardless of what other complaints you may have about those, at least the legs look like they could support the weight of the rest of the body.

Still, the concept is actually pretty cool.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/14 11:01:28


Post by: Statistx


 thegreatchimp wrote:
 Nevelon wrote:
Plastic lets them do some nice things that would be impossible before, but sometimes just because you can do something does not mean you should
This should be the first rule of modern miniature design. I really hope the craze with particle effects and fragile base attachments would just end. The former looks gak 90% of the time, and the latter is an impracticality.
#


I don't like them either. I much prefer if dynamic fx like that are kitbashed or not included at all than being the hidden stand.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/14 11:57:17


Post by: Polonius


Tycho wrote:


It doesn't necessarily bother me, it's just (for some reason) a surprise everytime I come across someone who can't separate "That's well done but I personally dislike the aesthetic" from "that's terrible because I don't like it", (which is a pretty poor and limiting way to look at things).


Even in ostinsibly subjective fields of taste, there are generally agreed upon guidelines and preferences and things that work. We all have our own taste, but aesthetics are not purely personal taste.

Personally, I think the conversation is a lot better when there are actual reasoned debates. So for example, to say you don't personally like a style or a look is always interesting because it illustrates different likes/tastes/dislikes etc and can help you see something in a new way. So if someone likes something I dislike or vice-versa, there's a base for conversation now. There are some truly, objectively bad models, but in this day and age they are not as plentiful as they used to be. Take the Mechanicus horses for example - from a design standpoint they are actually very well thought out, they are well sculpted, and they have a very unique aesthetic that harkens back to old school calvary models. If you don't like that, it's cool, but they aren't "the worst models in recent history" because of someone's personal distaste of the art style.


Ironically my first thought was that they were almost too on the nose.

On the other hand, there are truly BAD miniatures. Poorly made, poorly sculpted, just plain bad. I just wish people could learn more to seperate the two things. Something can be very well done but still not appeal to you. That doesn't mean "it sucks" lol


I think people jsut cannot understand that criticism, when done even semi well, isn't just an opinion. It's an analysis.

Miniature design might not be a truly mature artform, but it's developed enough that we know what a good miniature should have. Proper proportions, plausible design, playability, ease of building, proper level of detail, and especially for faces, weapons, and other key elements, just looking like the correct thing.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/14 13:37:59


Post by: thegreatchimp


I think I found the winner of the "impractical sculpt" category. The sphinx itself is a graceful sculpt, but it's ruined by that leaping weirdo on it's wing. I can't think why he should be up there except:
-To make the model as spindly and fragile as possible
-To take up as much space in a transport case as possible

Easy enough to fix, but for feth's sake...


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The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/14 13:47:42


Post by: Grimtuff


Ignoring the fact too it looks nothing like Teclis.

Seriously, go look at his previous incarnation's faces and compared it to that model. They look nothing alike. Practically every time when they've redone a special character they've retained at least some aspects of their facial structure.

That? Nope.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/14 19:14:09


Post by: LunarSol


It's conceptually less terrible in the 360 where you can tell he's attached by his cape and floating out in front of the Sphinx and not connected by his feat the way the angle of the picture makes it look.

Granted, in terms of what you were actually referring to (impracticality), realizing all of that makes it much much worse.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/15 00:00:12


Post by: Valkyrie


I'll be bloody surprised if this monstrosity hasn't been mentioned yet:

Spoiler:


I mean, what the hell is it? I admit I don't know much Necromunda lore but even then, it just looks like a lazy attempt with a ball of green stuff and whatever bits they had to hand.

Spoiler:


As much as I like the new Sisters, they've gone a bit OTT in my opinion with the Immolator. I know it's meant to look all Gothic and such, but you've got half a bloody cathedral on that turret!

Spoiler:


His uneven bra straps irk me more than the godawful head, which at least can be swapped out.

Spoiler:


Now this is controversial but hear me out. I love the new Abaddon, I love that they've finally updated him from the old metal chunk. There is one detail that irks me however, and that's the overall condition of his wargear. This guy is a Warmaster, burner of countless worlds and slayer of trillions, and yet his armour is tattered, exposed cabling and shattered pieces here and there. I would imagine his armour to be near pristine, little bit of battle damage here and there sure, but it looks like a Mekboy's been maintaining it for 10,000 years.



The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/15 00:38:43


Post by: insaniak


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I worked for GW during the ear of the last metal Tyrant.

Oh gods the number I had to assemble which were not my own.

How cruel fate mocked me!

I built one and a half for a winged conversion commission - the half being because there was some miscommunication about the required pose, so I had to start over. They released the plastic kit before I had a chance to go back and finish the half-built one for my own use, and so it's been sitting in a drawer ever since because I just couldn't.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/15 01:19:57


Post by: Eldarain


 thegreatchimp wrote:
I think I found the winner of the "impractical sculpt" category. The sphinx itself is a graceful sculpt, but it's ruined by that leaping weirdo on it's wing. I can't think why he should be up there except:
-To make the model as spindly and fragile as possible
-To take up as much space in a transport case as possible

Easy enough to fix, but for feth's sake...


So disappointing I made my own and I don't plan on pursuing the line beyond that. (With the exception of Eltharion, being the opposite end of the spectrum from this thing)


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/15 07:19:29


Post by: Dysartes


 Valkyrie wrote:
I'll be bloody surprised if this monstrosity hasn't been mentioned yet:

Spoiler:


I mean, what the hell is it?

Given the image doesn't seem to load for me, that's a very good question...


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/15 08:21:42


Post by: Valkyrie


 Dysartes wrote:
 Valkyrie wrote:
I'll be bloody surprised if this monstrosity hasn't been mentioned yet:

Spoiler:


I mean, what the hell is it?

Given the image doesn't seem to load for me, that's a very good question...


This thing


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/15 08:48:14


Post by: Overread


For some reason FW seems to keep getting rather novice painters (by GW standards) to do their product painting. Some internal politics or something in GW I suspect. IT makes models like that look far worse than they do in reality.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/15 08:51:27


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


In defence of the Necromunda Floaty Fat Boy?

He’s straight out of Blanche’s artwork, which has long been proper wacky and visionary.

Just needs a better paint job.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/15 17:26:50


Post by: Mangod


 Valkyrie wrote:
I'll be bloody surprised if this monstrosity hasn't been mentioned yet:

Spoiler:


I mean, what the hell is it? I admit I don't know much Necromunda lore but even then, it just looks like a lazy attempt with a ball of green stuff and whatever bits they had to hand.


I can see why you dislike this model, but it certainly fits the description from the books:

[...] the product of one of Lord Helmawr's Psakanariums; inbred from [...] dozens of Psyker bloodlines to create a [...] psychic weapon. Unable to stand or even feed itself, and of indeterminate gender, [it]'s mutated form is augmented with suspensor implants to facilitate movement, [...] rigs to keep its organs functioning and a neural-crown that both enhances its psychic powers and keeps it in a docile and pliable state


It's basically a weaponized psyker-servitor.

Edit: I'm convinced the design document just reads "So the Imperium saw a Zoanthrope and went 'Yeah, I can make those too!'"


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/15 18:17:25


Post by: Grimtuff


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
In defence of the Necromunda Floaty Fat Boy?

He’s straight out of Blanche’s artwork, which has long been proper wacky and visionary.

Just needs a better paint job.


Agreed. The mini is not to my taste, but I warmed to it a bit more with a good paint job on it.

Here's the guy from Convert or Die's go at him. Makes it look far better than the FW one.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/15 18:46:45


Post by: LunarSol


There's a lot of models whose perception of quality is based on the paint job. Harlequins are a good example of very nice model that still disappoint when people realize the texture on them is almost entirely painted on. You see similar things where people think there's texture in hair and stuff that is entirely freehand.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/15 19:18:25


Post by: Overread


 LunarSol wrote:
There's a lot of models whose perception of quality is based on the paint job. Harlequins are a good example of very nice model that still disappoint when people realize the texture on them is almost entirely painted on. You see similar things where people think there's texture in hair and stuff that is entirely freehand.


Infinity do this a lot, though its also that a lot of the detail on their minis is also very fine as well. So its a double hit. Couple that with some good photos and most of their models always feel surprisingly tiny compared to the photos.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/15 20:02:45


Post by: LunarSol


 Overread wrote:
 LunarSol wrote:
There's a lot of models whose perception of quality is based on the paint job. Harlequins are a good example of very nice model that still disappoint when people realize the texture on them is almost entirely painted on. You see similar things where people think there's texture in hair and stuff that is entirely freehand.


Infinity do this a lot, though its also that a lot of the detail on their minis is also very fine as well. So its a double hit. Couple that with some good photos and most of their models always feel surprisingly tiny compared to the photos.


That's less true than it used to be. I really started to notice the difference around the 2017 releases, but the digital sculpting has put a lot more detail, particularly in the hair and faces.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/15 20:16:09


Post by: Tycho


This utter utter utter utter utter utter fiddly sodbiscuit.

Sure, he looks great on the box. But having just (not quite accurately) built him?

Never. Again. Give me metal Hive Tyrants and Penitent Engines. Just not this awkward, fiddly, easily bent kit.


I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way!

GREAT looking model. Nightmare to assemble. I am dreading priming/painting/transporting ...


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/16 05:13:18


Post by: ced1106


I guess boardgame plastic is too easy a target, but this miniature has a ton of mold lines because of undercuts, has been pre-assembled, making painting a pain, is mostly black, making details difficult to show, has a flesh-to-black transition for the face, then has the gall to lack details in the face. Here's the original 2D painting.



Now, look at how painters have pretty given up, "Screw it. I have to paint the rest of the miniatures from this D&D boardgame. Let's contrast this thing and paint bears."







I mean, you can see stuff in the last picture, but how does it look like the original painting!?!


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/16 05:34:32


Post by: Adeptus Doritos


Oh, boy. Okay, deep breath here.

A LOT of Age of Sigmar models. Look, I'm not saying they look bad. That's not at all the issue- they look awesome! But... I travel quite a bit. I always carry a case of minis with me- because everywhere I go, I'll usually find a place to game with someone. Age of Sigmar models do not travel well unless you get really, REALLY dedicated with pluck-foam (and sacrifice a good chunk of space). So many spindly little bits that pop off and snap away.

Obsidius Mallex from Blackstone Fortress AKA 'Chaos Lord with Thunder Hammer'. Honestly, in a box that came with a lot of amazing models- this one was underwhelming at best. So much of his body is covered by... hoses? Parts of the metal trim just 'stop' behind the leg. He looks like he's 'walking toward you menacingly' at a glance but if you look at the model in your hand, it's more like he's twisting- his hips are at like a 45 degree angle to his shoulders. This was a model that I just honestly tossed at the nearest Chaos Marine player, and I went and created my own Mallex out of other kits.

A lot of the Sisters of Battle. Honestly, one of them looks like Terry Crews in a wig. Yeah, I also know that GW's not really good with ethnic facial structures and tend to paint black people skin tone on a white face and it comes out looking like... well, blackface. However, some of the facial structures on the sisters heads look like dudes wearing wigs. No, not 'trans women', just some regular dude that found a wig in a costume shop and put it on as a joke. I can't say I've seen stubble on a Sororitas, but if I did- it wouldn't be out of place. Thank the Emperor for Helmets- because otherwise these models are great.

Multiple Forge World Necromunda Models. Uh, yeah. I can honestly say that the "floaty cyborg testicle on a stick", "angry wig man serving divorce papers", "'roid rage Randall", and "Angry Chainsaw Cannibal Boss" were absolutely awful. Not just from an aesthetic point of view- but the Eightfold Harvest Lord looked like a Finecast model from 10 years ago. Ortruum 8-8 has to be some kind of gag that Forge World is playing to see if people are stupid enough to pay $30 for a lump with random bits stuck to it.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/16 07:39:29


Post by: Illumini


Agreed on Mallex, The base model is good, but he looks like he is part sculpted by an intern. Lots of blobby hoses everywhere, looks like my first attempts at green stuff.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/16 09:14:21


Post by: Overread


 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
Oh, boy. Okay, deep breath here.

A LOT of Age of Sigmar models. Look, I'm not saying they look bad. That's not at all the issue- they look awesome! But... I travel quite a bit. I always carry a case of minis with me- because everywhere I go, I'll usually find a place to game with someone. Age of Sigmar models do not travel well unless you get really, REALLY dedicated with pluck-foam (and sacrifice a good chunk of space). So many spindly little bits that pop off and snap away.


Oh I agree with you there. Khinerai for Daughters of Khaine look fantastic, but my gods they are not practical. Thin tails holding the whole body up (they wobble if you look at them); then on the end of each wing finger there's a long thin spike. Those are so easy to snap just assembling them. I tried foam and realised that to take what I wanted in foam that would protect it I'd hardly get any into a regular case. Because you can't snug fit it otherwise you'll tear off those thin prongs each time.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/16 09:53:01


Post by: Cronch


I fully agree on how impractical GW became with their models over the last 5 years or so. Some armies I only field in the house because I don't want to carry five big boxes just to bring 2000 points to a game


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/16 09:56:46


Post by: Overread


At the same time cases are not that big. There is ample room for firms ilke Battlefoam to make bigger cases that are practical to move things around.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/16 10:12:21


Post by: Cronch


Some of us do not have cars. I would honestly gladly go back to the size things were in 2005, just sculpted and cast using modern techniques instead of having to deal with Teclis' sphinx with a wingspan of an actual pidgeon.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/16 10:14:44


Post by: Overread


Teclis and Sphinx is a really odd one honestly. I think many get the feeling it was two separate models mashed together because there's no real link between them, they are just posing. Teclis looks like he'd be better leaping off a base with some magic under him; sphinx just doesn't need anything else to be complete.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/16 10:43:54


Post by: Cronch


There's also the massive height of the kharadron boats, or the fact that if you glued the howdah on the idoneth turtle, it's so tall even a standard "large" transport case won' accomodate it. everything has massive antennae,feathers, bannerpoles and other unidentified spindly bits these days.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/16 10:54:20


Post by: Undead_Love-Machine


Totally agree with Adeptus Doritos’ assessment of delicate AOS models and the issues with Mallex.

All of the hoses on Mallex are obviously in place for technical reasons, to eliminate undercuts on the model and to allow it to fit on a single sprue.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/16 11:14:25


Post by: Slipspace


To go along with the Teclis model I'd probably just add "any model that is depicted as flying/floating". Almost all of them have a really awkward pose or stupid connection to their base. Astorath, for example, trails metre-upon-metre of scrollwork beneath him to attach to his base, which looks bad in itself but makes even less sense when you consider what that'd look like if he was standing on the ground.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/16 14:36:23


Post by: Robert Facepalmer


 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
I can't say I've seen stubble on a Sororitas, but if I did- it wouldn't be out of place.


Found it! The shadow on the Superior is... not optimal.



The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/16 15:47:36


Post by: Cynista


 McMagnus Mindbullets wrote:
I don't know what it is, but the new canoptek reanimator just looks awful to me

I know it's a great model and people love it, but the thing really doesn't do it for me- alas I've only seen them in pictures and on sprue, so maybe my opinion will change.

Agreed. Hate it. Can't get my head around how anybody could actually like it. The quality of the sculpt is fine, the design is awful

Also dislike the Skorpekh Lord. 3 legs.. 3 arms(from 2 shoulders).. boring and awkward pose. It's more Saturday morning cartoon goofy bad guy. Necrons did not need any more of that.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/18 09:19:18


Post by: Adeptus Doritos


 Robert Facepalmer wrote:
 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
I can't say I've seen stubble on a Sororitas, but if I did- it wouldn't be out of place.


Found it! The shadow on the Superior is... not optimal.



The sister in the top, far right hand side- looks like Steve Buscemi with a bad haircut

My conclusion is: Sisters of Battle is where the ugly girls go



The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/18 09:54:00


Post by: Cronch


The pretty ones become Astartes.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/18 10:33:34


Post by: Adeptus Doritos


Cronch wrote:
The pretty ones become Astartes.


On this forum, saying something like that is the equivalent of not just kicking the Hornet's nest... but tearing it out of the tree and throwing it into a mob of chimps on bath salts.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/18 11:20:09


Post by: Just Tony


Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:In defence of the Necromunda Floaty Fat Boy?

He’s straight out of Blanche’s artwork, which has long been proper wacky and visionary.

Just needs a better paint job.


The way you spell "swill" is quite odd...




For me the Ioneth Deepkin or however the hell you spell them.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/18 15:06:27


Post by: Adeptus Doritos


Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:In defence of the Necromunda Floaty Fat Boy?

He’s straight out of Blanche’s artwork, which has long been proper wacky and visionary.


Blanche's artwork is 2-Dimensional. That doesn't always translate directly to a 3D model. And 'wacky', sure. Visionary? Subjective. He ain't the first guy to make grimdark artwork. Blanche gets heralded as the grand master of 40k artwork, but... it takes a hell of a lot of polish to get his ideas to work as a miniature.

And yes, I know what Blanchitsu is. To each their own, but most of those models look like they smell bad and would be damp and warm to the touch. A lot of them just look like lazy slapjob paint on a cobbled-together model made from junk bits. I get it, some people say it's about a style and yaddayaddayadda.

But if you poop your pants on purpose, you're still an idiot for pooping your pants. It's not a revolutionary act that makes you a high-brow intellectual above us lowly plebs.

(Not "You=Grotsnik", but "You=General". But if you poop your pants...)


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/18 16:18:05


Post by: Vaktathi


 Adeptus Doritos wrote:


And yes, I know what Blanchitsu is. To each their own, but most of those models look like they smell bad and would be damp and warm to the touch.
Given the subject matter, that wouldn't appear to be inappropriate in many cases with 40k...


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/18 17:01:25


Post by: Adeptus Doritos


 Vaktathi wrote:
 Adeptus Doritos wrote:


And yes, I know what Blanchitsu is. To each their own, but most of those models look like they smell bad and would be damp and warm to the touch.
Given the subject matter, that wouldn't appear to be inappropriate in many cases with 40k...


Oh, I've seen someone with Nurgle models that were...

How should I put this?

They certainly had the Grandfather's touch on them, and it was more authentic than cosmetic.

It was one of those things that I had to look around to see if someone was messing with me on hidden camera when he pulled Nurlge Daemons/Deathguard out of his plastic... receptacle...?



The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/18 17:52:59


Post by: catbarf


 thegreatchimp wrote:
Speaking of busy / cluttered models, I believe Mortarion is the worst offender of all. Pose is good, the detail of the sculpt is incredible, but completely excessive. There is just WAY too much going on with that model. It's as though the sculptor wanted to do as many different textures/materials as possible. In particular, the sheer amount of trailing objects is playing tricks with my eyes. I imagine it's also the absolute pits trying to store and transport it without bending something. Which is something that puts me off a lot of the recent large monster models, but I digress.


Busy models are my biggest gripe with a lot of modern designs. Digital sculpting makes it very easy to just add more stuff, especially with flimsy connections. It spoils the recognizable silhouette that a model needs to be readable at arm's length.

Take the old Typhus sculpt. He's a Terminator with some distinctive back vents and an enormous scythe. There are some nurglings at his feet, but they don't project out from the model and interfere with that silhouette.



Now compare to the new Typhus.



The basic design is the same, but now the model is all over the place. The focal point is the scythe, but its outline is interrupted by the billowing smoke and random flies. There's junk sitting on, sprouting from, or hanging off of just about every panel of the armor. It's just so busy.

This is what really kills the new Death Guard range for me. I enjoy the Nurgle aesthetic, but the sculpts just have too many tentacles, horns, and embellishments jutting out of every surface. Compare to the old Forge World Death Guard and there you see comparable levels of detail but a much cleaner silhouette, accentuated by the (consistent!) addition of the classic pickelhaube spike.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/18 18:09:05


Post by: Mangod


 catbarf wrote:
 thegreatchimp wrote:
Speaking of busy / cluttered models, I believe Mortarion is the worst offender of all. Pose is good, the detail of the sculpt is incredible, but completely excessive. There is just WAY too much going on with that model. It's as though the sculptor wanted to do as many different textures/materials as possible. In particular, the sheer amount of trailing objects is playing tricks with my eyes. I imagine it's also the absolute pits trying to store and transport it without bending something. Which is something that puts me off a lot of the recent large monster models, but I digress.


Busy models are my biggest gripe with a lot of modern designs. Digital sculpting makes it very easy to just add more stuff, especially with flimsy connections. It spoils the recognizable silhouette that a model needs to be readable at arm's length.

Take the old Typhus sculpt. He's a Terminator with some distinctive back vents and an enormous scythe. There are some nurglings at his feet, but they don't project out from the model and interfere with that silhouette.

SNIP

Now compare to the new Typhus.

SNIP

The basic design is the same, but now the model is all over the place. The focal point is the scythe, but its outline is interrupted by the billowing smoke and random flies. There's junk sitting on, sprouting from, or hanging off of just about every panel of the armor. It's just so busy.

This is what really kills the new Death Guard range for me. I enjoy the Nurgle aesthetic, but the sculpts just have too many tentacles, horns, and embellishments jutting out of every surface. Compare to the old Forge World Death Guard and there you see comparable levels of detail but a much cleaner silhouette, accentuated by the (consistent!) addition of the classic pickelhaube spike.


It's a bit perplexing that the Deathshroud Bodyguard based on the old Typhus model makes for a better Typhus (or model in general) than the actual updated models does...



The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/18 18:26:52


Post by: thegreatchimp


 catbarf wrote:
Busy models are my biggest gripe with a lot of modern designs. Digital sculpting makes it very easy to just add more stuff, especially with flimsy connections. It spoils the recognizable silhouette that a model needs to be readable at arm's length.

Take the old Typhus sculpt. He's a Terminator with some distinctive back vents and an enormous scythe. There are some nurglings at his feet, but they don't project out from the model and interfere with that silhouette.

Now compare to the new Typhus.

The basic design is the same, but now the model is all over the place. The focal point is the scythe, but its outline is interrupted by the billowing smoke and random flies. There's junk sitting on, sprouting from, or hanging off of just about every panel of the armor. It's just so busy.

This is what really kills the new Death Guard range for me. I enjoy the Nurgle aesthetic, but the sculpts just have too many tentacles, horns, and embellishments jutting out of every surface. Compare to the old Forge World Death Guard and there you see comparable levels of detail but a much cleaner silhouette, accentuated by the (consistent!) addition of the classic pickelhaube spike.


Agreed -I couldn't have put it better myself. It's the classic mistake of trying to strengthen the defining style of something to the point that it becomes strained and loses its "elegance" (if such a word can be applied to bloated, rotting superhumans). The bony spurs / spikes on the range are my biggest gripe - they could have looked good, but they'e so large that they're anatomically impossible. On a side note, these two are very nicely painted though.

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The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/18 19:09:37


Post by: Dysartes


Saturday Night Typhus is definitely worse than the old Typhus, for sure.

I'm pretty sure the bone growths on the Poxwalkers are meant to be impossible - they're infected with a Warp plague, after all, so we shouldn't expect the results to be realistic.


The Worst Miniatures of Recent Times  @ 2020/09/18 19:44:35


Post by: PossumCraft


I'll just... leave this here...

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