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the_scotsman wrote:
My personal favorite is the details on the judicar.

1) I like that he's got this flirty look with his coat, like he's coming at you, and he's let one shoulder of his goofy "I'm wearing power armor but also a coat" ensemble slip off his shoulder, and that sultry gaze just screams "whoops *giggle* not fixing that...."

Well, you've just now convinced me to try to get a hold of a judiciar. Congratulations!

Everyone keeps bringing up the judicar and I agree it's not good, but I can't be the only who saw these similarities:





Also, Auron's a time traveler and the judicar has an hourglass...

 General Kroll wrote:
The Taurox looks a lot better with the wheel conversion kit from Victoria minis.

Cool. I like the Zinge halftrack conversion too.

Having spent a good deal of time climbing into and jumping out of early Mine Protected Vehicles/ Mine Resistant Vehicles like Buffels, Caspir and even an MRAP I have to say the functional design of the Taurox is gak. Ingress and egress will not be anywhere as good as the Chimera.

Now I've only been aboard an M113 and M2 Bradley as a civilian and played around with Russian BTRs but from an IFV/APC standpoint the rear egress with a ramp shared with things like the Ratel are vastly superior to leaping from what looks like a 5' height.

 amazingturtles wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:
My personal favorite is the details on the judicar.

1) I like that he's got this flirty look with his coat, like he's coming at you, and he's let one shoulder of his goofy "I'm wearing power armor but also a coat" ensemble slip off his shoulder, and that sultry gaze just screams "whoops *giggle* not fixing that...."

Well, you've just now convinced me to try to get a hold of a judiciar. Congratulations!

The only logical explanations for the judicar's whole steez are also hilariously illogical.

1) that's not his face, he's just wearing a little mouth covering bandanna thing...over a helmet.

2) the hourglass is just for decoration. It doesn't work. He never has to turn it over because it's just a prop.

3) the coat is also just for effect, and in fact it gets in the way of his armor, so he's got it hanging off of him just in a desperate attempt to make his outfit functional.

I actually kind of love the idea that the judicar is just a purely psychological weapon, and everything he's doing is just trying to deploy his stupid decorations and then get rid of them so he can actually try and fight.

From GW

Walking pile of badly designed, malformed gak



Mutilated,armless stupdiity



babycarrier gak

Hey I love that Tau artillery unit - its not so much a mech as it is a huge artillery platform on legs.

 Overread wrote:
Hey I love that Tau artillery unit - its not so much a mech as it is a huge artillery platform on legs.

hate it and the stupidly exposed crew.

Fun fact about the Taurox. The reason it has tracks is because Alan Merrett apparently sent out an edict that no IG vehicles could have wheels.

petrov27 wrote:
Im very mixed on the new repentia - not a fan of the sporty outfits and shoes but otherwise ok. I wish they had tattered robes over the sport bra and shorts maybe as a start. Shrek face superior though needs a head swap....

Just coat her face in plastic glue and then press and peel a bit of sprue to give her that Freddy Krueger effect.

 Grimtuff wrote:
Fun fact about the Taurox. The reason it has tracks is because Alan Merrett apparently sent out an edict that no IG vehicles could have wheels.

HAhahahahaha. Serious? I can believe that. It's like they designed a wheeled vehicle and then slapped the tracks on it when they got that edict.

Speaking of stupid wheeled vehicles :



Let us not forget.

That would look fine if they'd put some armour on the front ;P

The daddy, the kids & the midlife crisis:



And let's not forget the recent cow elves.

 Overread wrote:
That would look fine if they'd put some armour on the front ;P

The exposed crew is the least of my issues with it. I love the old Attack Bike sidecar.

 Grimtuff wrote:
Fun fact about the Taurox. The reason it has tracks is because Alan Merrett apparently sent out an edict that no IG vehicles could have wheels.

Him not being there continues to pay dividends.

Kayback wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:
Fun fact about the Taurox. The reason it has tracks is because Alan Merrett apparently sent out an edict that no IG vehicles could have wheels.

HAhahahahaha. Serious? I can believe that. It's like they designed a wheeled vehicle and then slapped the tracks on it when they got that edict.

Speaking of stupid wheeled vehicles :

Spoiler:

Let us not forget.

Nah, I love the go-kart. It's the new bikes that miss the mark, for me.

I like the cow elves. They make sense in a John Blanche napkin-scribble kind of a way.

 insaniak wrote:

Kayback wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:
Fun fact about the Taurox. The reason it has tracks is because Alan Merrett apparently sent out an edict that no IG vehicles could have wheels.

HAhahahahaha. Serious? I can believe that. It's like they designed a wheeled vehicle and then slapped the tracks on it when they got that edict.

Speaking of stupid wheeled vehicles :

Spoiler:

Let us not forget.

Nah, I love the go-kart. It's the new bikes that miss the mark, for me.

Has anyone figured out how they're meant to steer yet?

 Dysartes wrote:


Has anyone figured out how they're meant to steer yet?

Insh'Allah. As the Emperor wills it?

Differential braking?

I'm more curious about the gattling gun muzzle next to the drivers head.

C'mon guys how does this thread not have the majesty of the Razorgor yet?



I must also second the Justicar and especially the Wulfen as well.


Mantic can be low-hanging fruit, but people are supposedly expected to buy these things...



Para Bellum's older releases (though still recent by overall measure) have strongly questionable design quality in my eyes;

 thegreatchimp wrote:
What, in your opinions, are the most horrible miniatures in the current wargame ranges? Whether it's the concept, the sculpting, the pose, or better still all three, please share! Please include pictures for our collective amusement. Models must still be in production, not Oldhammer or Middlehammer - we've all seen Clown Nagash and Sister Dialogous. (which I'll admit I still google from time to time when I need a laugh!)

I nominate the Goliath 'Zerker. The Necromunda range has, for the most part, been mind-blowingly good. In fact I liked the Goliath gangers so much I'm converting a whole army out of them. But this guy is just a blobby mess. It's so shockingly sloppy that I honestly thought he was a converted action figure at first sight. Furthermore, the company has made countless great sculpts of warped / overly muscled creatures over the years, so how a sculpt as rubbishy as this gets approved is beyond me.

P.S. Miniaturse from any range, not specifically Games Workshop (though Gods know they do know how to reliably churn out the occasional stinker).

BBBBBAAAAAANNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, just a total ripoff.

I saw those new admech flyers with the silly wings that looked like they were made of hide and sticks, I pretty much groaned at how dumb they looked. Maybe going for a Da Vinci look but came off more like something from the flintstones or other hanna barbara cartoon.

I used to think the murder buckets looked wrong, but now I kinda understand they're made to be tougher than normal necrons. Still they look kind of off but I'm ok with them, especially if we see them as necron servitors. The doomstalker walker, the cables look really crude and out of place compared to like a triarch stalker. It's obviously a rip from the Protoss titans in starcraft 2, but all those cables just look so low tech for a necron machine.

(I just rmemmbered the first time I saw the protoss titans, these (relatively) giant things just walking up out of the water to come to me, it was like "WTAF?!?! I sure learned to appreciate them in a hurry though...)



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 Dysartes wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

Kayback wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:
Fun fact about the Taurox. The reason it has tracks is because Alan Merrett apparently sent out an edict that no IG vehicles could have wheels.

HAhahahahaha. Serious? I can believe that. It's like they designed a wheeled vehicle and then slapped the tracks on it when they got that edict.

Speaking of stupid wheeled vehicles :

Spoiler:

Let us not forget.

Nah, I love the go-kart. It's the new bikes that miss the mark, for me.

Has anyone figured out how they're meant to steer yet?

They don't steer,they just deploy pointed at the enemy and go straight forward!

Unsteerable vehicles are a plague on british scifi. It started with the lawmaster bike in the dredd comics, they look cool in a comic.



When they built actual versions of them for the stallone mess called "Judge Dredd" they found out they were impossible to steer. Marine bikes have been based on the lawmaster since the first ones.

The versions in Karl urban's vastly superior "dredd" film actually worked.

smelly bohab wrote:
Everyone keeps bringing up the judicar and I agree it's not good, but I can't be the only who saw these similarities:





Also, Auron's a time traveler and the judicar has an hourglass...

Yes! Sir Auron -the first thing I thought when I saw the model

I may be in the minority in liking the Judicar for that similarity. I'll concede though, a head swap is probably in order.

The new Nurgle stuff is horrible aesthetically to me but that's probably the point.

Most of the primarius vehicles are just bad as well. Except the Akira bikes and bigger dread.

But the hover tanks, the Mario kart, the weird gun platform thing, the Avatar rip off suit. They all suck like a Hoover.

Which is a shame cause outside of the one guy that forgot the tip of his sword the infantry for the primaris marines has been cool.

The problem with the Nurgle stuff is the terrible pastel paint scheme the studio uses on them. The minis themselves are fine.

I somewhat disagree. The Nurgle minis are so disgusting, I won't let them in my house, and I would actually refuse to play against an army of them.

But they are meant to exactly as disgusting as they turned out.

 Vaktathi wrote:
Aesthetically? Emo-Shrike. The old Shrike, whatever people want to say about it, was at least very obviously "Imperial Space Marine", not "emotionally vulnerable cyberpunk anime character". There's a time and place for the latter, but Shrike was not it.

Okay this got me

As for the admech cavalry that have been mentioned a few times - yes, it's a silly idea, but I would say given the idea they were executed as well as they possibly could have been. Those are some sweet sculpts!

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
C'mon guys how does this thread not have the majesty of the Razorgor yet?

Yeah, that plus these from the same release:



Bad concept and bad execution all around. I don't see how well-sculpted models like Shrike and the Judicar are in the same category as these.

The baffling thing was that neither looked anything like the art in that army book. Looked like two completely separate sets of art direction.

The difference is a good paint job can really save the minotaur kit. But yeah, there did seem to be a lot of indecision around BoC design at that point.

Space Marine Suppressors

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
C'mon guys how does this thread not have the majesty of the Razorgor yet?

They did say "recent".

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
C'mon guys how does this thread not have the majesty of the Razorgor yet?

They did say "recent".

The downside of using such an inexact measure of time, I guess - though I'd agree with you that I wouldn't've counted "Mutated Pumbaa" as "recent".