I hope they give us a clue about all the secret images with "undead" aesthetics
And blood bowl? The following team has been seen, and the new edition box too ... a bit shabby if they show it again as a novelty, since I don't think they show anything different.
Yeah, we're closing in on when Direchasm is supposed to hit for Underworlds so Glory likely refers to that as we saw silhouettes but no models outside the Chameleon Skink.
When is Spiel Essen supposed to be? Also the 17th? Previous years have had GW doing a showcase for that too and it's been almost exclusively Specialist Games fare.
Kanluwen wrote: Yeah, we're closing in on when Direchasm is supposed to hit for Underworlds so Glory likely refers to that as we saw silhouettes but no models outside the Chameleon Skink.
When is Spiel Essen supposed to be? Also the 17th? Previous years have had GW doing a showcase for that too and it's been almost exclusively Specialist Games fare.
Gridiron obviously refers to BloodBowl but I wonder what they are going to reveal. I don't think that BB2020 was supposed to leak as early as it did but I think they need to show something we haven't seen before. A new team seems unlikely because it won't be featured in the new rulebook, but perhaps another plastic Big Guy (Minotaur?) or one or two new (old) Star Players in plastic?
I would assume Glory refers to Warhammer: Underworlds. I wouldn't be surprised to see one or both Warbands from the Season 4 starter set to be revealed properly.
Based on the cover of the book is it safe to say we'll get Lumineth and Hedonites?
Do we know what's in the new starter? I liked Beastgrave's just for the fact that they went with some pretty unique teams.
highlord tamburlaine wrote: Based on the cover of the book is it safe to say we'll get Lumineth and Hedonites?
Do we know what's in the new starter? I liked Beastgrave's just for the fact that they went with some pretty unique teams.
The Direchasm boxed set contains everything you need to play, including two brand-new warbands that represent the darkness and light of the Mortal Realms. The Slaaneshi Hedonites of the Dread Pageant entered the living mountain in search of Slaanesh and now revel in the sensation of endless slaughter, death, and rebirth. Ranged against them are Myari’s Purifiers, a band of Lumineth Realm-lords pledged to calm the mountain’s growing wrath.
I wouldn't mind seeing some more stuff on Blood Bowl, Underworlds, and Warcry. I've got hardcore 40k fatigue at this point from seeing virtually nothing but that for 6 weeks.
Sabotage! wrote: I wouldn't mind seeing some more stuff on Blood Bowl, Underworlds, and Warcry. I've got hardcore 40k fatigue at this point from seeing virtually nothing but that for 6 weeks.
Same here.
Especially since 40k has essentially been marines vs 'crons since 9th was released.
Fresh air needed.
Either an extended print run of BSF or a new Warhammer Quest game. A solo-coop game makes sense in these times where local shops are not hosting games.
Kill Team has mostly been ignored this year so not expecting anything there. A cough and a whisper for a 2020 annual would at least be something.
40K players are patiently waiting for their own favourite codex while GW bangs on about Necrons and Marines. I guess we'll come back in late 2021 for when they've settled down...
I don't expect much from this preview. The new season of Blood Bowl has already been leaked in full a few months ago, and I suspect they will keep being superficial for that live stream (saying "watch out for Warhammer Community for details about the new rules !"). I don't think they will reveal many games as well.
The second is certainly Underworld with them showing the full starter box, 'cause Warcry was already previewed before anyway.
It's obviously Blood Bowl and Underworlds, featuring Warcry.
If it is a Specialist Games, er... special then I'd wish for a Titanticus sneak peek (and a bit more that the Volcano Cannon Warbringer) and a look at the next wave of Aeronautica Imperialis (Eldar v ????).
I might be mistaken but did Citadel actually make any Chaos archers after the ancient plastics in the MB Battle Masters game? Didn't really notice the one on the new Underworlds box art before, nice throwback, even including the mohawk. Preview pic of the mini suggests a different stance tho.
MobileSuitRandom wrote: I might be mistaken but did Citadel actually make any Chaos archers after the ancient plastics in the MB Battle Masters game? Didn't really notice the one on the new Underworlds box art before, nice throwback, even including the mohawk. Preview pic of the mini suggests a different stance tho.
Completely unsure on the timing, but they did do Chaos Thug Archers in the old, olden days.
Yeah timing wise it’s probably all specialist games and boxed game type things.
Looking forward to Underworlds, and always like seeing Blood Bowl, Necromunda and Warcry bits.
MobileSuitRandom wrote: I might be mistaken but did Citadel actually make any Chaos archers after the ancient plastics in the MB Battle Masters game? Didn't really notice the one on the new Underworlds box art before, nice throwback, even including the mohawk. Preview pic of the mini suggests a different stance tho.
Slaaneshi Mortals would be a nice big reveal, but it's likely just an Underworlds band.
I mean, that's a start, but I'd want an expansion of Slaanesh ahead of the inevitable Emp's Children Codex.
As for what to expect? Blood Bowl, Company Store Edition, along with the next Underwords, some Warcry, and if we're lucky a look at the Van Saar book (but probably not).
MobileSuitRandom wrote: I might be mistaken but did Citadel actually make any Chaos archers after the ancient plastics in the MB Battle Masters game? Didn't really notice the one on the new Underworlds box art before, nice throwback, even including the mohawk. Preview pic of the mini suggests a different stance tho.
ungor raiders are technicaly chaos archers
Right, for beastmen.
I will not count them for a Slaves to Darkness army,
but this is just me.
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H.B.M.C. wrote: Slaaneshi Mortals would be a nice big reveal, but it's likely just an Underworlds band.
I mean, that's a start, but I'd want an expansion of Slaanesh ahead of the inevitable Emp's Children Codex.
As for what to expect? Blood Bowl, Company Store Edition, along with the next Underwords, some Warcry, and if we're lucky a look at the Van Saar book (but probably not).
It would be fantastic to have a mortal battle line troop choice for the hedonites, but you are right, it would probably be just the Underworlds band
from the box with their lumineth counterparts.
MobileSuitRandom wrote: I might be mistaken but did Citadel actually make any Chaos archers after the ancient plastics in the MB Battle Masters game? Didn't really notice the one on the new Underworlds box art before, nice throwback, even including the mohawk. Preview pic of the mini suggests a different stance tho.
One of the Darkoath warband has a bow. I'm still surprised they haven't become an army in their own right. I would like to see them get a warcry warband to go with the underworlds one.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I mean, that's a start, but I'd want an expansion of Slaanesh ahead of the inevitable Emp's Children Codex.
Would be good to actually get that inevitable Emprah's Kiddies codex already regardless of what comes before or after. GW's been inserting Fulgrim sightings into books for more than three years now. Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?
But yeah, anything Slaanesh is appreciated, and Hedonites should have gotten mortal followers with their book instead of drawing it out like this.
I will say that I don't expect mortal followers of Slaanesh anytime soon, though, other than that boxed set champion and the Underworlds starter. The rumor engine has been filled with... stuff, and it seems we'll be getting a new undead army first. Maybe we'll get lucky and they release a unit or two in campaign book now that they started with Morathi, or they finally release Slaanesh in the new edition and we even get them in the starter set.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Slaaneshi Mortals would be a nice big reveal, but it's likely just an Underworlds band.
I mean, that's a start, but I'd want an expansion of Slaanesh ahead of the inevitable Emp's Children Codex.
As for what to expect? Blood Bowl, Company Store Edition, along with the next Underwords, some Warcry, and if we're lucky a look at the Van Saar book (but probably not).
H.B.M.C. wrote: Slaaneshi Mortals would be a nice big reveal, but it's likely just an Underworlds band.
I mean, that's a start, but I'd want an expansion of Slaanesh ahead of the inevitable Emp's Children Codex.
As for what to expect? Blood Bowl, Company Store Edition, along with the next Underwords, some Warcry, and if we're lucky a look at the Van Saar book (but probably not).
Some LOTR would be neat too!
With the 'Bree' focus at the moment - do I remember something about (re)releasing The Nine.....
Yeah, I suppose there's no way of getting around "GW gonna GW".
Something to remember is that we're pushing into what looks like the home stretch for a new iteration/phase of AoS.
Slaanesh is breaking free.
Teclis is leading his Teclian Vanguard into the Realms at large for the first time, specifically to try to lessen the damage that Slaanesh will cause upon breaking free.
Morathi's making a play for Godhood.
They've known where they're going with this. The lack of Slaanesh mortals and then the prompt showing of them in both Direchasm and the Shadow and Pain box is a clue that we're likely gonna see something Big developing on that front.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I mean, that's a start, but I'd want an expansion of Slaanesh ahead of the inevitable Emp's Children Codex.
Would be good to actually get that inevitable Emprah's Kiddies codex already regardless of what comes before or after. GW's been inserting Fulgrim sightings into books for more than three years now. Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?
But yeah, anything Slaanesh is appreciated, and Hedonites should have gotten mortal followers with their book instead of drawing it out like this.
I will say that I don't expect mortal followers of Slaanesh anytime soon, though, other than that boxed set champion and the Underworlds starter. The rumor engine has been filled with... stuff, and it seems we'll be getting a new undead army first. Maybe we'll get lucky and they release a unit or two in campaign book now that they started with Morathi, or they finally release Slaanesh in the new edition and we even get them in the starter set.
Though all that undead could easily just be a warband in S4 Of Underworlds.
We know three of them, and can guess a missing three? or so (none of those 6 are death focused I don’t think). So perhaps..
Though all that undead could easily just be a warband in S4 Of Underworlds.
We know three of them, and can guess a missing three? or so (none of those 6 are death focused I don’t think). So perhaps..
That's assuming there's only three more. We might be getting 5 more, bringing the total to 8 instead of 6.
It looks like we're getting this time around, based upon ones we've actually seen clues for:
-Seraphon(confirmed)
-Lumineth(confirmed)
-Hedonites(confirmed)
-Soulblight(potentially confirmed via a few rumor engine bits)
-Ossiarch Bonereapers(highly likely. We've seen an Ossiarch Bonereaper styled axe)
That's 5 right there, just based upon stuff we have actually seen. That's not getting into some of the other weirder and far out bits of Rumor Engine that could be WarCry OR Underworlds.
Though all that undead could easily just be a warband in S4 Of Underworlds.
We know three of them, and can guess a missing three? or so (none of those 6 are death focused I don’t think). So perhaps..
That's assuming there's only three more. We might be getting 5 more, bringing the total to 8 instead of 6.
It looks like we're getting this time around, based upon ones we've actually seen clues for:
-Seraphon(confirmed)
-Lumineth(confirmed)
-Hedonites(confirmed)
-Soulblight(potentially confirmed via a few rumor engine bits)
-Ossiarch Bonereapers(highly likely. We've seen an Ossiarch Bonereaper styled axe)
That's 5 right there, just based upon stuff we have actually seen. That's not getting into some of the other weirder and far out bits of Rumor Engine that could be WarCry OR Underworlds.
Yeah, I'm betting that crab claw will end up being warcry or underworlds. Probably Deepkin or some weird kind of mutant
Though all that undead could easily just be a warband in S4 Of Underworlds.
We know three of them, and can guess a missing three? or so (none of those 6 are death focused I don’t think). So perhaps..
That's assuming there's only three more. We might be getting 5 more, bringing the total to 8 instead of 6.
It looks like we're getting this time around, based upon ones we've actually seen clues for:
-Seraphon(confirmed)
-Lumineth(confirmed)
-Hedonites(confirmed)
-Soulblight(potentially confirmed via a few rumor engine bits)
-Ossiarch Bonereapers(highly likely. We've seen an Ossiarch Bonereaper styled axe)
That's 5 right there, just based upon stuff we have actually seen. That's not getting into some of the other weirder and far out bits of Rumor Engine that could be WarCry OR Underworlds.
We are definitely getting 5 more on top of those yeah.
Didn’t explain myself properly. I mean 3 we know, 3 we can guess (armies that haven’t had them yet), thus leaving 2 wild cards - that’s where I think a new race or faction could fit in.
Even so, the preview this saturday will likely be focusing on revealing the starter box. I expect them to say "watch out for Warhammer Community for more information!" for the rest.
About Warcry, it will be certainly the Tome of Champions 2020. We already have seen the new starter box, but it can't hurt to see it again.
And about Blood Bowl...We already saw the most of it in the leaks a few months ago. They'll have to talk about the Necromantic Team, since its release should be close now - and they have to release it before the new season, so that they can sell the last Spike! Magazine before the new starter box with new rules. So pretty sure I will see nothing that I already know at this point.
I believe this preview will show nothing really exciting nor big. Get ready to be disappointed. Again.
Danny76 wrote: In previous previews we’ve know about the next thing, but they’ve shown us the next thing after that.
My bet is on the Spike! Magazine and the Necromantic game accessories (terrain, dices, cards). We didn't see them so far. Maybe a few Forgeworld miniatures as well, which is useless because we know the awful amount of time they take to release anything Specialist Game anyway.
They showed us before because they had no choice. When the leaks became too massive, they stayed silent because they couldn't reveal that much so early. It really messed with their communication plan that time.
Given the time left before the new season and the fact they have to sell the last Spike! Magazine and cards for the current edition before the new rules make them obsolete, I'm pretty sure they won't be able to dig too deep in what comes after the new season.
Underworld and Warcry will be the "real" surprises, and even so, I don't expect them to be stellar.
Yeah FW is a good shout.
And it may be just accessories etc, who knows.
All I’m saying is, it won’t be the things we already have seen, as that’s not how they’ve done a single preview yet (aside from full views of partial teased models, everything else was a new reveal.
Everything they have revealed in these has been what was meant to be event reveals, and with the time of year of this, there would have been a reveal even if it were alli person etc
Yeah, I suppose there's no way of getting around "GW gonna GW".
Something to remember is that we're pushing into what looks like the home stretch for a new iteration/phase of AoS.
Slaanesh is breaking free.
Teclis is leading his Teclian Vanguard into the Realms at large for the first time, specifically to try to lessen the damage that Slaanesh will cause upon breaking free.
Morathi's making a play for Godhood.
They've known where they're going with this. The lack of Slaanesh mortals and then the prompt showing of them in both Direchasm and the Shadow and Pain box is a clue that we're likely gonna see something Big developing on that front.
Does that mean we won't see the most important aelf until after Slaanesh breaks free?
Danny76 wrote: In previous previews we’ve know about the next thing, but they’ve shown us the next thing after that.
I can’t imagine they’d just be showing the necromantic team again, it’ll be something else.
S4 underworld starter yes, but that’s because we haven’t actually seen it yet.
I could see the Necromantic team coming up as a quick thing, with confirmation of which month it is being released in (assuming the world doesn't burn down in the meantime, of course).
An image of the contents of the box was seen with the miniatures on the field, there were 2 outside, which are not appreciated. One must be this dwarf, the other could be a goblin cheerleader.
This is from the tiny picture of the blood bowl contents. It certainly looks like it could be a referee with a feathered helm tucked under one arm and the other raised. The other referee could be the dwarf.
Chikout wrote: This is from the tiny picture of the blood bowl contents. It certainly looks like it could be a referee with a feathered helm tucked under one arm and the other raised. The other referee could be the dwarf.
No way, that’s clearly the kid with the quartered oranges for half time!
Chikout wrote: This is from the tiny picture of the blood bowl contents. It certainly looks like it could be a referee with a feathered helm tucked under one arm and the other raised. The other referee could be the dwarf.
The mini in this image matches the "3 days left" pic posted above. It seems like a referee showing a red (?) card to someone, with a feathered helmet under the arm.
I wonder if the reveals tomorrow would have been a lot larger, but were cut short by the Blood Bowl leaks. We already saw three or four teams leaked online, and WarCom had to damage control and preview them early
I think there's still room for a fairly big preview tomorrow. It just seems to be the Spiel-Essen preview moved to now rather than later.
Honestly, if I had to guess the biggest thing changing here? It's that there won't be a Warhammer Quest style preview. That's something that likely got hit hard by 'rona, as the cardstock stuff is produced in China.
Kanluwen wrote: It's that there won't be a Warhammer Quest style preview.
There was a Warhammer Quest preview announced somewhere, or is it just some fan wishlist ?
Quite a lot of the rumour engine appear to be flesh eater court/ghouls. They already had a recent shadespire warband, are not due a new AoS book so unlikely to be new models for that and it would be odd for them to suddenly get a warcry warband with new sculpts. Ghouls (and possibly a vampire) as the bad guys in a new warhammer quest would make the most sense, as it has been awhile since the last aosWH quest was discontinued. The flintlock pistol rumour could be for a hero in the game too.
Quite a lot of the rumour engine appear to be flesh eater court/ghouls. They already had a recent shadespire warband, are not due a new AoS book so unlikely to be new models for that and it would be odd for them to suddenly get a warcry warband with new sculpts. Ghouls (and possibly a vampire) as the bad guys in a new warhammer quest would make the most sense, as it has been awhile since the last aosWH quest was discontinued. The flintlock pistol rumour could be for a hero in the game too.
A few of the things that people swear up and down to be Flesh Eater Court(which are the same faction as Ghouls) are more along the lines of the Vampire aesthetic established awhile back. We had a vampire that was more 'bestial' while still wearing full plate armor and wielding a greatsword for example.
Also worth mentioning that a faction getting tapped once for Underworlds does not necessarily mean the faction won't get tapped again. The warband for Underworlds(Shadespire was season 1, Nightvault was season 2, and we're out of Shyish and into Ghur[Realm of Beasts] now) was all Ghouls.
Besides, I don't think the cardboard is an issue linked to 'rona, since the new Warcry and Bloodbowl starters will have some as well. The terrain board are all cardboard in the end. Not even talking about Underworld (hello cards !).
And if there is another Warhammer Quest, it will be 40k again IMHO. Which is not Warhammer Quest, to me - it just has the name put next to it. But I don't expect anything soon about this.
If a new warhammer quest game gets announced I can't help but think it's only in response to Hasbros Heroquest getting so much love.
To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if the Heroquest announcement might mean a rethink on GWs part as to what they want their next warhammerquest to contain miniatures and gameplay wise.
Automatically Appended Next Post: *Not to say that a fantasy heroquest wasnt on the way- I'm a big proponent of the thought they already have one being worked on the wings. I'm not not sure they would announce it so soon after the 40k version got retired.
And speaking of the ghouls, if it were ghouls (though I’m more inclined in the vampire Underworlds option).
Bear in mind there is the AoS campaign narrative of books thing.
One could easily be centric on them and have a model (which could be one or several of these rumour engines all in it then the rest vamp or something else.), or even a new special unit (though less likely)
Carlovonsexron wrote: If a new warhammer quest game gets announced I can't help but think it's only in response to Hasbros Heroquest getting so much love.
To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if the Heroquest announcement might mean a rethink on GWs part as to what they want their next warhammerquest to contain miniatures and gameplay wise.
Automatically Appended Next Post: *Not to say that a fantasy heroquest wasnt on the way- I'm a big proponent of the thought they already have one being worked on the wings. I'm not not sure they would announce it so soon after the 40k version got retired.
They're done with Blackstone, announcing new WHQ to milk the boardgame crowd with new DLC...i mean expansions would make sense with our without hasbro's little nostalgiabaiting. Especially since designing or even planning a release takes years, so if they show anything, it means they started work on it long before Hasbro announced their begstarter.
If they do announce a new Quest game today, I just hope they don't release expansions that require other expansions; especially ones that cost £65. Was going to throw caution to the wind and get BSF and Deadly Alliance together, but it said it required Escalation and had zero interest in that one.
Carlovonsexron wrote: If a new warhammer quest game gets announced I can't help but think it's only in response to Hasbros Heroquest getting so much love.
Well that will depend on whether they have any minis to show.
It's funny, they make it like the leaks never happened. ^^
Nothing really new except the referees and game accessories. The true news are that the Spike! Magazine for Necromantic Teams is compatible with new rules.
Also in addition to the boxed set with two full teams (includes the heavies and star players); there's also a new issue of SPIKE (11) and two books which appear to combine stories from the legacy of Bloodbowl into single pubilcations with Death on the Pitch and the Blood Bowl Omnibus - the latter contains Blood Bowl, Dead Ball, Death Match, Rumble in the Jungle - which is basically the "Black Library ebook bundle" for Bloodbowl.
Release in November!
ALSO the Twitch just revealed that the two teams are pre-coloured plastic. All the teams are also in the book (Lizardmen also confirmed in the core book) from the main game with full stats and everything.
What team is alphabetically after Lizardmen, which Adam said he can’t say as it’s a spoiler?
Sure he said Necromantic, so is it between the two?
Or I filled that blank in, in my head..
Also main target for stream isn't those who have read leaks anyway
What do you mean they ignore leaks? They literally covered the leaks the day after they happened. As far back as Magnus' return, the Community Team has gotten creative with covering leaks, mocking the poor quality of them with a potato cam.
And since they posted the leaked teams on the community page, it should still be common knowledge, even for players that don't follow leaks and rumors from online sources.
Why else would they mention the new undead team without previewing them?
Danny76 wrote: What team is alphabetically after Lizardmen, which Adam said he can’t say as it’s a spoiler?
Sure he said Necromantic, so is it between the two?
Or I filled that blank in, in my head..
H.B.M.C. wrote: Rather than yet another suite of cards for their new Warcry expansion, we get proper books so we can get the rules. How can you complain about this?
I just don't have GW stockholm syndrome I guess so I don't enjoy paying again and again and again for 90% of the same content I already have.
The slaangor and the champion with spear and shield look good.
The others.. not so much. Hate the mask and veil, and the belly dancer outfit is... not for me.
Heads up for everyone: the OP isn't properly updating on my end. I'll be putting spoilertags around each after we get to the next bit. You'll have to let me know if it looks messy for you lot.
GaroRobe wrote: What realm has a desert? The Araby/persian theme is cool, but the harlequin esque mohawk doesn't do much for me. Although I suppose it works.
All of them?
Aqshy has some of the bigger deserts, but all of them do feature deserts. Even Realm of Life.
They're fantasitc. Love the Arabian theme to their dress, and of course the Slaangor monstrosity. I hope that Slaanesh gets units of all these types of units: Archers, Spearmen and Slaangors.
They're fantasitc. Love the Arabian theme to their dress, and of course the Slaangor monstrosity. I hope that Slaanesh gets units of all these types of units: Archers, Spearmen and Slaangors.
Agreed! The designs are fantastic and I can't wait to see the Slaanesh army mortals get a nice unveiling as a force. Seeing an archer is great as that's something that has been missing from Slaanesh for a long time (right now the only range is magic or a musical harp sonic attack).
An Avatar of Khaine, one of those things you test yourself against.
That's a nice quote.
So,
Blood angel animation thing
'Anthology' anime (Hammer and Bolter), which has striking scorpions as first story, two Sisters of Battle as another
Interrogator, maybe-noir style detective story about getting punched in the face.
Overread wrote: Agreed! The designs are fantastic and I can't wait to see the Slaanesh army mortals get a nice unveiling as a force. Seeing an archer is great as that's something that has been missing from Slaanesh for a long time (right now the only range is magic or a musical harp sonic attack).
And if their "Beastmen" unit are actually not your typical "chaff" units like Tzaangors and reguar Beastmen, and they're a bit more monstrous, then that's a nice niche that the Beastmen in general don't have.
Really crappy preview, in the end, but it was to be expected.
Most of Blood Bowl was already leaked before, so no real new here.
Army books for Warcry. Why do I laugh ? Because they could have done so from the start, instead of selling cards to gullible customers who certainly feel stupid now. By the way, their "background tables" and fated quests are more likely to be recycled stuff from previous Tomes of Champion.
Nice for new players, they can just pick the book they want to play.
We know now what are the new miniatures for the next season of Underworld, but that's pretty much it. The Hedonites of Slaanesh are nice, but they're just 4 named characters anyway.
And a few information for the anime / movies about 40k. Not outstanding.
Necron Flayed One Killteam teaser at the end of the show.
Overall great show. The three games we expected to see got a preview of new contents. Bloodbowl box looks outstanding and I'm not even a fan of that game.
Underworlds got two fantastic looking new warbands and Warcry is getting some very functional and useful books (we can argue over cards and books but at least now you've got the option).
At this point, I'm just praying for more Hedonites. Warcry has had a few warbands that didn't get dedicated releases; Godsworn Hunt, the wolf riders, and kind of Mollog?, so I'm hoping they give us some more mortals. They definitely match that one guy whose coming up in the Slaanesh vs DoK bundle
H.B.M.C. wrote: Really? That's it for Kill Team? Just an animation?
Oh please...
Presumably a new boxed set with flayed ones and assault intercessors (going by the chainsword on the floor), because the latter obviously need to be in yet another box.
They're fantasitc. Love the Arabian theme to their dress, and of course the Slaangor monstrosity. I hope that Slaanesh gets units of all these types of units: Archers, Spearmen and Slaangors.
Same- I've never been so excited for an AoS release as I am with the promise of these coming out. Goodness, the worst of the bunch is actually the lord, which at the very lease still has the promise of some good bits for conversions on him. (Very interested in the helmet crest)
People keep claiming that Kill-Team's dead, Kill-Team's not getting any support, etc...they finish with a teaser of new Kill-Team stuff next year and it's "an awful finish".
I was hoping they'd give us a teaser of the Underworld expansions, but oh well.
I wonder if the Kill Team bit means that Flayed ones and multi option Assault Intercessors are not coming until next year? Or could there be something more bespoke in the release?
GaroRobe wrote: At this point, I'm just praying for more Hedonites. Warcry has had a few warbands that didn't get dedicated releases; Godsworn Hunt, the wolf riders, and kind of Mollog?, so I'm hoping they give us some more mortals. They definitely match that one guy whose coming up in the Slaanesh vs DoK bundle
Underworlds had Godsworn Hunt and Wolf Riders, not WarCry.
Mollog did get a release and counts as a Dankhold Troggoth. His 'minions' didn't, but I genuinely don't know how you do those.
Big hope right now is that since we look to be going into AoS: The Next Next Generation, we'll see a tightening up/expansion of some of the smaller factions.
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GoatboyBeta wrote: I wonder if the Kill Team bit means that Flayed ones and multi option Assault Intercessors are not coming until next year? Or could there be something more bespoke in the release?
I doubt that Necrons would be staggered that long, buuuuut it might be pointing towards a new core set.
Nice looking preview. Fun models. Not for anything I care about, but nice for those that like those games.
The whole thing was 100% specialist games, which was refreshing. Nice to see them getting support.
I would have liked something solid for Kill Team, as that’s the only one of them I play. A little disappointing we didn’t get anything but a loose date. I’d love to see some major progress and consolidation there, but am not holding my breath.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Really? That's it for Kill Team? Just an animation?
Oh please...
Presumably a new boxed set with flayed ones and assault intercessors (going by the chainsword on the floor), because the latter obviously need to be in yet another box.
Yeah pretty disappointed with that prospect of kill team - the animation was nice and all but I was hoping they would take the War Cry and Underworlds route for Kill Team and do dedicated sets for factions- adding new/alternate models/things.. oh well.
The Slaaneshi war band looked really cool- very much with the feel of Jes Godwins original Slaanesh models - the Slaangor is excellent, I think they'll make a stunning army [not my thing though -still hoping for Kurnothi].
The animations look good, Bloodbowl looks like a good set, but I'm not into these things.
Bloodbowl is ok, I might get into the game finally? Idk, but it all looks solid.
Warcry again, nice to get options.
Lumineth for direchasm are...eh? The warrior models are nice, but the wizard looks constipated.
The hedonites are AMAZING, I love the style, I love the waist cinchers that leave their bellybuttons visible, and I love the scarification on the lord. Just 10/10, amazing models.
Animations- please do not toy with my heart and make me think there will be an animation where the Eldar aren't punching bags ;w;
As for the last story mentioned, not sure if I see the appeal of story set in a fascist, Kafkaesque government setting, we all have access to news networks IRL..
Killteam thing- interesting, but literally just a teaser.
Biggest disappointment- nothing on the upcoming AOS campaign and no teasers of the Seraphon Underworlds crew.
Kill Team is built around existing units. That's how this works. There's been two Kill Teams that are exactly what you described(the Rogue Trader and Gellerpox Infected), and people whined nonstop that they couldn't be used in 40k proper. The same thing happened with stuff from Blackstone Fortress.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Really? That's it for Kill Team? Just an animation?
Oh please...
Presumably a new boxed set with flayed ones and assault intercessors (going by the chainsword on the floor), because the latter obviously need to be in yet another box.
Yeah pretty disappointed with that prospect of kill team - the animation was nice and all but I was hoping they would take the War Cry and Underworlds route for Kill Team and do dedicated sets for factions- adding new/alternate models/things.. oh well.
The Slaaneshi war band looked really cool- very much with the feel of Jes Godwins original Slaanesh models - the Slaangor is excellent, I think they'll make a stunning army [not my thing though -still hoping for Kurnothi].
The animations look good, Bloodbowl looks like a good set, but I'm not into these things.
Honestly, the animations look just okay to me. The different styles might widen the appeal, but it also means they don't have a unified style, or mastery of a style. All them look a little mediocre as a consequence.
The anime in particular looks not great, and the computer generated stuff in the BA one is something I can't stand. Not sure about interrogator's style, the one frame I saw didn't look like much of anything.
As for the sets, definitely nothing I'll go out and buy. Good for people who want those things, though.
Kanluwen wrote: People keep claiming that Kill-Team's dead, Kill-Team's not getting any support, etc...they finish with a teaser of new Kill-Team stuff next year and it's "an awful finish".
Kanluwen wrote: People keep claiming that Kill-Team's dead, Kill-Team's not getting any support, etc...they finish with a teaser of new Kill-Team stuff next year and it's "an awful finish".
I was hoping they'd give us a teaser of the Underworld expansions, but oh well.
I've never once claimed that Kill Team is dead or that Kill Team isn't getting any support. Are you saying I shouldn't be allowed to judge the finish to the stream lackluster because some people have made claims about Kill Team that aren't correct? Absurd.
JWBS wrote: I've never once claimed that Kill Team is dead or that Kill Team isn't getting any support. Are you saying I shouldn't be allowed to judge the finish to the stream lackluster because some people have made claims about Kill Team that aren't correct? Absurd.
GoatboyBeta wrote: I wonder if the Kill Team bit means that Flayed ones and multi option Assault Intercessors are not coming until next year? Or could there be something more bespoke in the release?
The current Kill Team has half a multipart Reiver kit, I'd be very disappointed if they chose to switch to ETB minis in a new starter, though it's highly probable since the ETB assault Intercessors are five per sprue.
/Edit - very possible I should say, not probable.
GoatboyBeta wrote: I wonder if the Kill Team bit means that Flayed ones and multi option Assault Intercessors are not coming until next year? Or could there be something more bespoke in the release?
The current Kill Team has half a multipart Reiver kit, I'd be very disappointed if they chose to switch to ETB minis in a new starter, though it's highly probable since the ETB assault Intercessors are five per sprue.
/Edit - very possible I should say, not probable.
There’s a full Assault Intercessor kit coming, which is what they meant by multi option.
GoatboyBeta wrote: I wonder if the Kill Team bit means that Flayed ones and multi option Assault Intercessors are not coming until next year? Or could there be something more bespoke in the release?
The current Kill Team has half a multipart Reiver kit, I'd be very disappointed if they chose to switch to ETB minis in a new starter, though it's highly probable since the ETB assault Intercessors are five per sprue.
The dead assault intercessor does suggest they will be incorporated. But we know there is a full kit in the pipe at some point. It could just as easily be that. And KT really wants the full kits so you can make specialists. One of the perks of the system is making your team Your Guys. Multipart kits are almost mandatory for that.
If I was a betting guy, I’d put money on a new starter, with necrons vs marines. But that could also be done as an pariah nexus expansion box, which still needs the core rules. But with the changes in 9th, I suspect a whole new edition.
GoatboyBeta wrote: I wonder if the Kill Team bit means that Flayed ones and multi option Assault Intercessors are not coming until next year? Or could there be something more bespoke in the release?
The current Kill Team has half a multipart Reiver kit, I'd be very disappointed if they chose to switch to ETB minis in a new starter, though it's highly probable since the ETB assault Intercessors are five per sprue.
/Edit - very possible I should say, not probable.
There’s a full Assault Intercessor kit coming, which is what they meant by multi option.
Yeah I know, I just meant that ETB kits in KT starters is unprecedented. Of course they could very easily release multi-kit Intercessors this year, but they definitely won't be seen first in KT (so this supports his question/supposition in some vague way).
On the other hand, this vid pretty much guarantees we will see the full assault kit before "Early 2021", though that was pretty much known to be a certainty before we saw this vid.
GoatboyBeta wrote: I wonder if the Kill Team bit means that Flayed ones and multi option Assault Intercessors are not coming until next year? Or could there be something more bespoke in the release?
The current Kill Team has half a multipart Reiver kit, I'd be very disappointed if they chose to switch to ETB minis in a new starter, though it's highly probable since the ETB assault Intercessors are five per sprue.
The dead assault intercessor does suggest they will be incorporated. But we know there is a full kit in the pipe at some point. It could just as easily be that. And KT really wants the full kits so you can make specialists. One of the perks of the system is making your team Your Guys. Multipart kits are almost mandatory for that.
If I was a betting guy, I’d put money on a new starter, with necrons vs marines. But that could also be done as an pariah nexus expansion box, which still needs the core rules. But with the changes in 9th, I suspect a whole new edition.
Assault intercessors don't have specialists. Just a handful of sergeant options.
But yeah, more likely to be the new kit, or half of it.
GaroRobe wrote: What realm has a desert? The Araby/persian theme is cool, but the harlequin esque mohawk doesn't do much for me. Although I suppose it works.
All of the Realms can have deserts. They have a wide range of biomes.
Assault intercessors don't have specialists. Just a handful of sergeant options.
But yeah, more likely to be the new kit, or half of it.
'Specialists' is a term used in Kill-Team to define someone who gets unique skills. Some folks like to model specialists differently based upon the skills used.
Assault intercessors don't have specialists. Just a handful of sergeant options.
But yeah, more likely to be the new kit, or half of it.
'Specialists' is a term used in Kill-Team to define someone who gets unique skills. Some folks like to model specialists differently based upon the skills used.
This.
From the full kit we’ve seen, the guy with the string of grenades would make for a good demolition specialist, just as a starter.
I still argue we need an Underworlds equivalent for 40k, in the sense of fast paced, tactical, customizable, low model count game with a ruleset outside of typical 40k.
A rebranded Kill Team could work but I'm sure they'll continue to have KT use existing models, which is fine.
The new Warcry books make sense for newcomers, but I've got most of the cards I wanted. I still prefer the unique warband approach. Was hoping we'd see some new ones teased outside of the new starter but I'm pretty content with where the game currently is. I think I'll be satisfied once I've got the original core warbands painted- currently at 3/6 finished completely.
Agree with the others I like the direction they're taking the Hedonists.
Gallahad wrote: So what is everyone's guess if what it will cost me to get ahold of just the Bogenhaffen barons?
Hopefully I can get them for around $35 USD second hand like the current human team from the other starter.
The lumineth warband poses are all terrible. They look like derpy statues to me.
I highly doubt they new stuff will be sold for $35. It really depends on the new box price, but don't be surprised if 2nd hand sellers aim for $50 instead.
Those Slaanesh mortals are absolutely stunning. The whole team looks fantastic, but particularly the Leader and Slaangor. I love the little details like the scarification on the leader's limbs. The miniatures really capture an "exotic, yet deadly" feel. I really hope we see some more miniatures in this style when (and if) Slaanesh gets mortal followers like the rest of the gods.
highlord tamburlaine wrote: I still argue we need an Underworlds equivalent for 40k, in the sense of fast paced, tactical, customizable, low model count game with a ruleset outside of typical 40k.
A rebranded Kill Team could work but I'm sure they'll continue to have KT use existing models, which is fine.
They could totally work the Betrayal at Calth system into such a beast. Already hex-based, with cards even, has some nice, fast mechanics with surprising depth, just needs fixed layout boards, really.
highlord tamburlaine wrote: I still argue we need an Underworlds equivalent for 40k, in the sense of fast paced, tactical, customizable, low model count game with a ruleset outside of typical 40k.
A rebranded Kill Team could work but I'm sure they'll continue to have KT use existing models, which is fine.
They could totally work the Betrayal at Calth system into such a beast. Already hex-based, with cards even, has some nice, fast mechanics with surprising depth, just needs fixed layout boards, really.
I really enjoyed BaC and wished they did more with it. Shame is was mostly just considered a delivery system for 30k marines.
Been very excited to see the Hedonites, and they didn't disappoint. It's a shame the Lumineth are so unnaturally posed, complete with a full house of Tactical Rocks, but I'll find a way to get just the Slaaneshi mortals on their own somehow.
Don't know how to process the Warcry books. Didn't pick up any of the second wave of cards because of how wasteful the original packs are, so that consolidation is nice. But, I fear the books will end up becoming outdated very quickly, with new warbands from outside existing factions on the way, or new AoS units appearing for factions (and dare I hope maybe new factions).
Gallahad wrote: So what is everyone's guess if what it will cost me to get ahold of just the Bogenhaffen barons?
Hopefully I can get them for around $35 USD second hand like the current human team from the other starter.
The lumineth warband poses are all terrible. They look like derpy statues to me.
I highly doubt they new stuff will be sold for $35. It really depends on the new box price, but don't be surprised if 2nd hand sellers aim for $50 instead.
Dang. Aren't the regular single team boxes still $40?
They are much less appealing for conversions if I have to pay $50 out the gate plus burn bits to get them into fighting shape.
Gallahad wrote: So what is everyone's guess if what it will cost me to get ahold of just the Bogenhaffen barons?
Hopefully I can get them for around $35 USD second hand like the current human team from the other starter.
The lumineth warband poses are all terrible. They look like derpy statues to me.
I highly doubt they new stuff will be sold for $35. It really depends on the new box price, but don't be surprised if 2nd hand sellers aim for $50 instead.
Dang. Aren't the regular single team boxes still $40?
They are much less appealing for conversions if I have to pay $50 out the gate plus burn bits to get them into fighting shape.
Secondhand means you're paying whatever places will sell them for.
Teams are $40 retail right now. But that doesn't mean that secondhand will follow retail prices.
Worth mentioning that you would be looking at probably $80ish minimum retail for the teams here. Because it's team+Ogre+Griff.
Blood Bowl stuff is great, but aside from the refs its all been shown before. The new WH underworlds set is pretty bad, might skip that yet again. Only season I ever collected was shadespire. The minotaur/slaangor thing is pretty cool but it's the aelves that kill my interest. So all in all, glad I didn't wake up early to see the preview.
Oh do they not release the starter warbands as individual groups? That would be a shame, I do quite like the Chaos one and probably would have bought it separately, definitely not as a bundle though. Mildly disappointing.
JWBS wrote: Oh do they not release the starter warbands as individual groups? That would be a shame, I do quite like the Chaos one and probably would have bought it separately, definitely not as a bundle though. Mildly disappointing.
On a more serious note, I have to agree that the new Slaaneshi models look nice, and have a distinct style. Hopefully they'll have a full line-up in that style instead of just the handful of units in this new warband.
On a more serious note, I have to agree that the new Slaaneshi models look nice, and have a distinct style. Hopefully they'll have a full line-up in that style instead of just the handful of units in this new warband.
JWBS wrote: Oh do they not release the starter warbands as individual groups? That would be a shame, I do quite like the Chaos one and probably would have bought it separately, definitely not as a bundle though. Mildly disappointing.
It's usually done at the end of a 'season'.
Indeed, we might just be getting to the Beastgrave ones coming I guess..
Good news is, several people DO seem to like the Lumineth.
So buy the starter and if imagine you could probably sell it for £20-22.50, the price of a normal warband.
Then the remaining starter cost is ok.
(If it were the other way round, you could probably have got even more for the Slaañesh, as they’re clearly the more sought after..)
The only real positive of the High Elf warband seems to be the presence of a Swordmaster of Hoeth - and we can finally see what was under their cone helmets. Turns out it is an Abaddon-esque vertical ponytail of doom!
I like the Slaanesh guys and hope Slaaneshi mortals get a full AoS release in that style. Such a shame they're in the starter set with those horrid elves.
I hope they do something good with Kill Team. Bit dull it was just a teaser, but if it's a new starter set with Fayled Ones and Marines in it, it may at least be of interest to me because of the models.
JWBS wrote: Oh do they not release the starter warbands as individual groups? That would be a shame, I do quite like the Chaos one and probably would have bought it separately, definitely not as a bundle though. Mildly disappointing.
Ebay is your friend .. I got the Kurnothi one there for about £20. When its released separately I might grab another set for conversions for my war band.
I presume they didn't show much else beyond the boxed sets so they have something to show on Warhammer day..
I still think Killteam needs dedicated kits - its a perfect opportunity to introduce new things [side factions or variants for existing factions]. I hate that to build an interesting killteam with variation I have to get 3 kits and spend £90 ..A single set with variants like the Warcry Warbands would get perfect intro kits to try out different factions.
My single greatest hope for 40K is an Underworlds-style series of small warbands (Kill teams if you will...)
A single sprue each of Exodites, Navy / Navis Nobilite, Blood Axe Orks, zoats, Hrud...potentially amazing. Even the ‘regular’ factions could’ve great with interesting posing / armaments in mixed units.
And it’s not like it would cut into 40k sales.
As in people wouldn’t buy them as a cheaper alternative, considering the warbands are a mix of stuff that doesn’t exactly make up a unit.
Can only hope that’s what the new year brings.
I doubt it would be Kill Team SS that needs the customizable Style it has.
But some other game..
Automatically Appended Next Post: Obviously the unique factions that aren’t armies they could do presets I suppose.
But people like the list building of kill team still
Is it me, or do the Lumineth models look overly cartoony? You could get away with having the Sentinel and the Stoneguard in your normal units, but the other 2? I just cant shake the feeling that they will look massively out of place
Umm warcry bands aren't exactly supposed to be just couple new poses for existing units. And gw sure as hell shouldn't be restricted to just previous units since what we have is like 1/4 or even less of what lumineth should end up finally...
feugan wrote: My single greatest hope for 40K is an Underworlds-style series of small warbands (Kill teams if you will...)
A single sprue each of Exodites, Navy / Navis Nobilite, Blood Axe Orks, zoats, Hrud...potentially amazing. Even the ‘regular’ factions could’ve great with interesting posing / armaments in mixed units.
You absolutely 100% do not want that. Underworlds and WarCry are great standalone games, but the porting of their units over to the primary game has been extremely poor.
