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Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/01/20 14:23:40


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


How do!

Details are announced on War Com. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/01/20/your-first-glimpse-at-the-black-library-celebration-2021/

Most of it we’ve seen before, including my pick of the bunch Liber Xenologis. Definitely in for that, and maybe the pins. Fingers crossed the book isn’t limited edition (article doesn’t say one way or the other, which is irritating)


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/01/20 14:39:12


Post by: Mentlegen324


The bookmark looks quite nice, but the quote on it seems like an odd choice. Rather than something memorable/iconic or just a cool quote, it's just him boasting about how he's now a Primaris marine?

The artbook looks quite nice, although the pins seem like they might be a bit more cartoony than the previous pin sets like the Legion Badges and Sabbat Crusade set. I don't see how it makes sense to say the book is "observations from a Blackstone fortress" on the cover when that doesn't seem to be the focus of it overall, though.

I'm assuming no free badges, art cards etc like they usually do either, just the book.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/01/20 14:44:25


Post by: BrookM


Glad I've taken a day off on the 20th, means I can safely pre-order this stuff from the comfort of home, instead of trying it on my phone whilst working.

But yeah, chances are that the art book will be sold out within the hour.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/01/20 14:58:25


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I’m hoping it won’t. But am planning to be front and centre when it’s going up all the same.

I had the original Xenology book, but leant it to a friend who then moved, and the book disappeared into the ether :(


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/01/20 14:59:50


Post by: Malika2


Nice that Penitent will be done in audiobook format. Was kinda hoping they'd do the same with Pariah though...


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/01/20 16:17:09


Post by: ImAGeek


Well, after my crappy Saturday trying (and failing) to get Mortis, I’m not looking forward to this. I’d like Pariah, Penitent and the Xenos book (which theoretically aren’t limited edition, but BL hardbacks essentially are, especially the bigger art/fluff books), and I wouldn’t mind the limited Penitent either - I love that cover.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/01/20 17:11:29


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 ImAGeek wrote:
Well, after my crappy Saturday trying (and failing) to get Mortis, I’m not looking forward to this. I’d like Pariah, Penitent and the Xenos book (which theoretically aren’t limited edition, but BL hardbacks essentially are, especially the bigger art/fluff books), and I wouldn’t mind the limited Penitent either - I love that cover.


There is some extra hope here.

Store stock allocations are usually sorted months in advance, and set aside. So once lockdown is relaxed, local stores have a decent chance of carrying such ltd release goodies.

Certainly I had a good loot of my local store just before this lockdown, and got several bits gone from the website.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/01/21 12:37:11


Post by: Overread


What I find really odd is that there's nothing for AoS - I seem to recall this being the case last year too? It's a huge shame because its such a big and new setting yet it seems that with Josh Reynolds moving on to other projects, GW just hasn't replaced quality and quantity for AoS books as yet. I really hope they pick up the slack as its a huge setting without any restrictions like 40K had for a long time (all Imperial books/stories).



Otherwise I'm 100% in this for the Xeno book. I really hope GW have a lot in stock because I don't want to miss out in the 5 mins that the website goes nuts. Sadly I do agree with the above, most of the BL art/lore books are often one-time printings that you then might wait around years for a reprint to appear. I was very very pleased when they re-did Libre Chaotica ; though I'm still hoping they one day to a reprint of those Eldar concept art books and such.

Not sure if I'll go for the pins as well, depends on price, but also on Slaanesh because that's a big month in February for new excess models!


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/01/22 15:24:54


Post by: Yodhrin


I would be extremely excited for the Xenos book, but my distaste for the nuLore means I probably won't enjoy it given Draik is involved(which to me indicates it's going to be heavily tied in to the new version of the setting). Unfortunately as others have said, because it's undoubtedly going to be a limited edition in practice you're reduced to buying and hoping to resell if it's not to your taste or giving up entirely, since the chances you'll get a chance to look through one or read a review before they're sold out forever is basically zero.

It's good to (finally!) see Penitent is actually, definitely on the way - I look forward to the trilogy's conclusion in 2050

I'm a bit leery of the second volume of Bloodquest being PoD, I hope that doesn't indicate a decline in quality from the first volume.

No hint about more Warhammer Chronicles omnibuses was a bit disappointing, I'd been hoping to see at least the Florin & Lorenzo and Angelika Fleischer trilogies get one.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/01/22 15:28:47


Post by: Billicus


I'm in for the new Ventris book and the divisive miniature. The "inspirational" quote on the bookmark isn't remotely inspirational though.

Limited goodies, while lovely, are essentially invisible to me now having missed out too many times. I just pretend they don't exist


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/01/22 15:34:56


Post by: Overread


The print on demand Inferno reprints have all been high quality recreations as has been my copy of Filthy Ratment and Libre Chaotica.

Honestly I wish BL did print-on-demand for most of the lore books as at least then there's no sock issue at least in the short term. And they do seem to do honest high quality recreations as good as the original printings.


So if anything I'd be happy to see a book on print-on-demand. No panic pressure to buy


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/01/22 16:02:30


Post by: Dysartes


 Overread wrote:
Honestly I wish BL did print-on-demand for most of the lore books as at least then there's no sock issue at least in the short term.


If you're having sock problems with reprints, I'm not sure what's going on...


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/01/22 16:33:31


Post by: Overread


 Dysartes wrote:
 Overread wrote:
Honestly I wish BL did print-on-demand for most of the lore books as at least then there's no sock issue at least in the short term.


If you're having sock problems with reprints, I'm not sure what's going on...


Extreme friction burns on socks which results in holes in socks as a result of realising what time it is on a release day and rushing to make sure one is at the PC and ready at least 20mins in advance of the time the books go on sale.

I thought everyone had the same issue?


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/01/29 22:00:36


Post by: Lord Damocles


If Xenology 2: Blackstone Boogaloo is going to be limited?

Well, screw that then.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/01/29 22:18:34


Post by: Overread


 Lord Damocles wrote:
If Xenology 2: Blackstone Boogaloo is going to be limited?

Well, screw that then.


It is very unlikely to be a limited "1000 only" copies kind of limited; but more in that its more likely to be one big print run rather than a long term stocked product.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/12 18:38:53


Post by: Twinoni


Looks like GW took on board the feedback on the Ventrus head sculpt, as the original article has had an update to the model.



Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/12 18:52:20


Post by: Danny76


Actual new head right?
Not just a paint job?


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/12 19:00:08


Post by: Mentlegen324


 Twinoni wrote:
Looks like GW took on board the feedback on the Ventrus head sculpt, as the original article has had an update to the model.


It's....sort of better while still not looking at all like Uriel does in that art? His features and hair are still both far too harsh and broad in comparison to the softer more normal look of the artwork.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/12 19:02:58


Post by: Twinoni


Danny76 wrote:
Actual new head right?
Not just a paint job?


That's what I thought at first too, but you can see original has both ears visible and new one has some kind of comms upgrade attached.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/12 19:56:02


Post by: porkuslime


I just want the freebie short fiction collection without having to buy it from scalpers on ebay.. sigh..

Guess I will ask the Loot Group for a heads up


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/12 19:57:11


Post by: Eldarain


Does Bloodquest Vol2 being PoD mean it won't likely be in the same hardcover format as Vol1?

Also I'd like to see the Darkblade comic get the update and consolidate his novels into omnibuses again while they're at it.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/12 20:05:25


Post by: Overread


Gotrek and Felix have another Omnibus in June, which I think will basically complete their stories in Omnibus editions; so after that I'd wager Darkblade has a chance.


As for print on demand, their PoD can be equal in quality to the original; its just a difference in how GW orders from doing a single print run and seeing how the stock lasts; to do PoD and shipping much later.

Personally I wish they'd do more PoD as so many of their limited edition books often go out of print very fast.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/12 20:22:08


Post by: Billicus


Ooh, I was on board with ventris already but I like the new head more. Exciting stuff.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/12 20:48:19


Post by: Danny76


 Twinoni wrote:
Danny76 wrote:
Actual new head right?
Not just a paint job?


That's what I thought at first too, but you can see original has both ears visible and new one has some kind of comms upgrade attached.


Yeah that’s exactly what I saw and thought it must be new rather than a turned angle or anything.
Interesting they’ve done that, and production wise got it brought out and changed etc.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/12 20:59:31


Post by: Overread


As GW has the mould making in-house it means either the preview model was resin and the metal mould wasn't yet made - so they were free to change it. Or they were able to add the head to a new spot on the original mould and fill-in the old spot (or fill in and recut); since I'd be shocked if they'd recut the whole mould from scratch.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/12 21:07:01


Post by: GaroRobe


Maybe he's going to be strictly "made to order" so they can delay the release while they modify the existing sculpt? Even without resculpting, made to order models can take up to 120 days before delivery, so it's not like GW has to rush these out.

I didn't even realize it was a new head, since the hair is the same. Good catch with the ear piece. Also, do primaris ever have two ears? I assume one is always covered


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/12 21:37:06


Post by: Lord Damocles


 Twinoni wrote:
Looks like GW took on board the feedback on the Ventrus head sculpt, as the original article has had an update to the model.

He's combed his hair and had a shave, but now he looks like he's ten years old.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/15 09:14:01


Post by: ThatDraz


Is it a bit odd to anyone else that "Penitent", the sequel to "Pariah" is getting a SE release yet there isn't one for Pariah?

And am I right to assume that the Uriel Ventris model will be limited release, similar to their other Black library miniature released?


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/15 11:04:49


Post by: posermcbogus


 Twinoni wrote:
Looks like GW took on board the feedback on the Ventrus head sculpt, as the original article has had an update to the model.


Hahaha, looks like they heard there was feedback, but didn't bother reading it - the dreadful hair is totally unchanged - looks like it might even be a photoshop job?

Looks like the rest of the mini is unchanged. My eyes might be tricking me, but even down to the paintjob purity seal, the body is identical. They broke of the original, perhaps, and subbed this one in?


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/15 12:06:32


Post by: BrookM


Maybe the model comes with an alternate head, a helmeted one as well? It's not uncommon for GW to paint up a model and leave certain parts, heads and alternate arms, separate so they can be swapped for out photoshoots showing off the options.

Looking forward to Saturday, not pleased that the Penitent limited edition comes with a short story exclusive to that one though. :|

Not looking forward to the long wait until my books arrive.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/15 12:11:25


Post by: Overread


Braced and ready for the day to come. I just hope Xenos doesn't sell out too fast!


Also I'd really like if this year GW could work on getting some big names into AoS and perhaps next year the BL Celebration might have SOMETHING for Age of Sigmar!


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/15 12:22:58


Post by: BrookM


Again, if you want a swift check-out, buy yourself a gift certificate before the day itself so you can checkout in a single click instead of scrambling through the Paypal or credit card payment screens.

As for AOS, I still want more Eight Lamentations damn it. Or anything not Stormcast related, that would be grand.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/15 12:33:17


Post by: Dysartes


I think I'm going with a two-fold order approach - Liber Xeno on order one, then the rest on order 2.

Related question - is Dead Men Walking any good? I hadn't heard of it at all before this celebration.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/15 12:46:36


Post by: BrookM


YMMV, I found it a very depressing novel and not in a grimdark sort of way.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/15 12:53:36


Post by: GaroRobe


 BrookM wrote:
YMMV, I found it a very depressing novel and not in a grimdark sort of way.


This. I'm used to grimdark books, but this one left a bad taste in my mouth. Very depressing and one I have no desire to read again.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/15 14:50:38


Post by: Billicus


Enjoying that the description of the quote on the bookmark has been downgraded from "inspiring" to "from the novel"


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/15 15:06:47


Post by: Mentlegen324


Billicus wrote:
Enjoying that the description of the quote on the bookmark has been downgraded from "inspiring" to "from the novel"


It's a baffling choice of quote. To me it isn't "cool", iconic, inspiring, memorable etc in the slightest, it's just him boasting about "I'm a Primaris Marine now, aren't Primaris Marines great?!".


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/15 15:10:47


Post by: Billicus


Oh 100%. It's a terrible choice.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/15 16:57:46


Post by: Shadow Walker


 Dysartes wrote:


Related question - is Dead Men Walking any good? I hadn't heard of it at all before this celebration.

Best IG novel IMO, and one of the best BL books.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/16 15:39:48


Post by: beast_gts


Any price leaks yet?


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/16 15:41:04


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Was hoping for the same!


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/16 15:55:58


Post by: Wunzlez


Pretty much in agreement with all the other sentiments here regarding the Liber Xenologis.

That's the book I'm interested in and I hope I, and others, can get a copy


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/16 16:02:34


Post by: beast_gts


So War of Sigmar have a partial price list, but no mention of Liber Xenologis or the badges:

Spoiler:


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/16 16:08:50


Post by: BrookM


€22,- for the hardbacks, no surprises there.

I think lack of Xenology is due to it being a GW online store only product, as with the limited editions of Penitent and Ventris.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/16 16:18:12


Post by: Overread


Yep which means manic ordering on the day - I hope they've enough copies! Surprised they didn't make it Print on Demand. Even with the time delay at least it means you get your book and GW's print on demand is a good quality service.



Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/16 18:31:21


Post by: GaroRobe




Sadly, I don't think it's going to be anywhere as in-depth and cool as Xenology (especially if its only a page or two per xenos), but I'm still intrigued. The interview did mention they were allowed to create some new aliens (not whole species, but still) which is awesome.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/16 19:41:06


Post by: BrookM


It is written by a rogue trader and not an inquisitor this time around, so it'll probably come across as less professional overall.

But the art does look good.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/16 19:43:11


Post by: Danny76


Looking how thick it is.
If each double large spread is a different race, that’d be awesome.
I would assume Orks and Eldar etc will have separate larger sections maybe.

So is this limited then?
Or there’ll be a normal release later, non limited edition version and such?


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/16 19:48:08


Post by: Overread


The page says it might come to local stores at a later date. However that might depend on order volume at the weekend. IT also depends if GW is doing one big order and then splitting inventory (ergo even if they run out at the weekend the stores already have stock allocated) or if they are doing two separate print and order runs.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/16 20:12:17


Post by: Mr Morden


 BrookM wrote:
It is written by a rogue trader and not an inquisitor this time around, so it'll probably come across as less professional overall.

But the art does look good.


or "what we can get from / out of them"

Then again its an in universe joke that Inquisitors pose as Rogue Traders.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/16 20:35:41


Post by: Mentlegen324


I'm not too sure what to think of the preview pages for the artbook. It's by no means bad, and the artwork itself looks great, but at the same time both that page and the other 2 that can be seen just seem...bland? Like there's a lot of near-empty space that serves no actual purpose, there's no nice borders around the pictures and text, and there's little in the way of actual decoration to break-up the page. It's meant to be a Rogue Traders artbook so I expected something a bit less clinical and more elaborate manuscript-like style, like even the recent Sabbat Cruade book had more from what I've seen of that. Just feels like that's not a good or interesting use of the pages and there's therefore no need for it to be so big, that zoat text page for example should have been full or with some extra small drawings rather than being more blank space than anything else, although the other 2 don't seem as bad with that side of things.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/16 20:45:37


Post by: Overread


I'm glad to see art with boarders - I get VERY annoyed with how many companies print art without boarders in books and then what always happens - double page spreads. Because books have spines and you don't see that on a digital layout; but when you get the book in hand you're either losing the whole middle of the picture or cracking the spine.



Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/16 21:22:42


Post by: Lord Damocles


That picture of Xenology 2 is extremely disappointing.

It looks nowhere near on par with the original. Very little interest in it now.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/16 21:37:37


Post by: Mentlegen324


The more I look at those preview pages the more disapointed I am, really. I'll still get it, but compared to Xenology or the Sabbat Worlds, it just looks lifeless and more like something that feels more along the lines of copy-pasting wikipedia articles on a page without much thought rather than a handcrafted, bespoke-style of book handwritten by an elaborate and sytlish Rogue Trader that I expected it to be.

Like, where's the detail and personality to it that makes it feel like something from Janus himself that he wants to show off with? There's absolutely nothing about those pages that makes you think it's from a guy who likes fancy exotic things and impressing others with his wealth.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/16 21:53:12


Post by: Kanluwen


 porkuslime wrote:
I just want the freebie short fiction collection without having to buy it from scalpers on ebay.. sigh..

Guess I will ask the Loot Group for a heads up

Every purchase from the Games Workshop webstore during the celebration also gets you a free short story anthology, which contains five tales from across the 41st Millennium and the Mortal Realms. With stories of the Black Templars, Gotrek Gurnisson, and more, it’s a perfect introduction to Warhammer fiction, and a great way to just enjoy a few tales you might not have read before.

Warhammer stores and selected stockists (the ones that are currently open) are joining the fun too, with copies of the anthology to give away once they’re available in-store. Locate your closest stockist with our Store Finder, and give them a call to check when they’ll have stock available.

You shouldn't need to buy it from scalpers on eBay, provided you just have anything you might want to order during the timeframe?


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/17 05:48:28


Post by: ImAGeek


I’m a touch disappointed with it too. I’ll still pick it up I’m sure (if I can that is).


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/17 07:13:38


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


 Dysartes wrote:
I think I'm going with a two-fold order approach - Liber Xeno on order one, then the rest on order 2.

Related question - is Dead Men Walking any good? I hadn't heard of it at all before this celebration.


I enjoyed it. It felt grimdark to me, very bleak, but with a satirical edge like the black humor of ~3rd edition.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Wunzlez wrote:
Pretty much in agreement with all the other sentiments here regarding the Liber Xenologis.

That's the book I'm interested in and I hope I, and others, can get a copy


Is Liber Xenologis a spiritual sequel of Xenology, or like a Damocles Gulf extended version? Or neither?


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/17 08:57:15


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Xenos book looks to be a decent number of pages.

Provided it’s not photoshoppery, looks to be maybe 250 pages? I say that as the pages shown are 124 and 125, and the pic makes it look to be around half way through.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/19 03:49:05


Post by: Irbis


Funnily enough it looks like they changed Ventris head (from terribad to just ugly). Result of mass dislike causing retool or just earlier prototype?


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/19 07:55:01


Post by: TwilightSparkles


Dead Men Walking remains one of the best guard books. This isn’t the sometimes hopelessly optimistic feel of the Ghost’s series.

It’s grim in places but outside of the now gone forgeworld books it is the best insight into the Death Korps.

Xenology looks poor and a reminder of some of BLs more lazy publication ms from the noughties.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/19 15:47:25


Post by: porkuslime


I just found Dead Men Walking at a local used bookstore in January.. grabbed that puppy and read it in about 2 days

Krieg'ers take fatalistic to a whole new level..


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 09:03:09


Post by: Dysartes


Don't suppose any Dakka-ites to the east of the UK would care to comment on the price (or availability) of the Liber Xenologis book, would they?

EDIT - Scratch that, just realised I could open the GW site in another browser and look at the land of Oz. Xenologis was showing at $90AUS, or the same price as Sigvald, which puts it potentially in the £30-35 bracket (as I doubt GW will put a book up at the £34.50 Sigvald is listed as on the UK site).


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 09:31:03


Post by: ImAGeek


 Dysartes wrote:
Don't suppose any Dakka-ites to the east of the UK would care to comment on the price (or availability) of the Liber Xenologis book, would they?

EDIT - Scratch that, just realised I could open the GW site in another browser and look at the land of Oz. Xenologis was showing at $90AUS, or the same price as Sigvald, which puts it potentially in the £30-35 bracket (as I doubt GW will put a book up at the £34.50 Sigvald is listed as on the UK site).


It seems...cheap. Those books are usually £40-45 I think. Penitent LE is the same too and I would have guessed £40 or even £50 for that.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 09:40:03


Post by: Overread


No it seems about right. Liber Chaotica was around the same price point. BL is fairly expensive on novels, but normally pretty nice on lore/art books in terms of prices.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 09:52:16


Post by: ImAGeek


 Overread wrote:
No it seems about right. Liber Chaotica was around the same price point. BL is fairly expensive on novels, but normally pretty nice on lore/art books in terms of prices.


I’m pretty sure the Sabbat Wars one was £40 or £45.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 09:52:53


Post by: Dysartes


Well, we'll find out in a few minutes what brand of insanity GWUK is going to follow


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 10:00:01


Post by: Aeneades


Up at £40. My order went through nice and smoothly today.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 10:00:14


Post by: BrookM


Just placed my order, €55,- for Xenologis is a bit steep, but overall their hardbacks are nice.

edit.

Not the same price as Sigvald, something I had expected to be the case after taking a gander at the OZ GW site.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 10:00:20


Post by: Overread


And yep another smooth £40 spent on the Liber


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 10:02:13


Post by: ImAGeek


Pretty smooth here too yeah. Too smooth really, spent quite a bit! Got the limited Penitent, Liber Xenos, and the regular Pariah and Penitents.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 10:05:11


Post by: Aeneades


No sign of the print on demand Bloodquest volume 2 up on the site though.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 10:05:51


Post by: BrookM


I am overall happy that the site hasn't crashed, though I have been refreshing it since a quarter to eleven. But glad I got both Pariah and Penitent, Xenologis is icing on the cake.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 10:07:26


Post by: Dysartes


One thing I am confused by - what happened to volume 2 of Bloodquest?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Aeneades wrote:
No sign of the print on demand Bloodquest volume 2 up on the site though.


There's a tile for it on the Black Library section, but it just hits a 404 error.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 10:08:54


Post by: Aeneades


 Dysartes wrote:
One thing I am confused by - what happened to volume 2 of Bloodquest?


It's advertised on the front page now and goes through to this broken link - https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Bloodquest-Volume-2-PB-2021

Hopefully means it is being added at the moment.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 10:09:08


Post by: Overread


Bloodquest is print on demand, so if its late that shouldn't be a problem since its got a 2 week ordering window. I was actually thinking on ordering Bloodquest 1 next month to see if its any good and then if I really enjoy it get the print on demand for 2.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 10:09:30


Post by: Mentlegen324


Had hoped the Liber Xenologis book was £30 like the Black Library Artbook was, but got at £40 anyway. I suppose it's not too bad really considering the typical price for something like a video game artbook is around £30. Also ordered the Pin Badges.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 10:10:07


Post by: BrookM


There is a massive art shift between book 1 and book 2 & 3 of Blood Quest, be warned.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 10:12:46


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Xenology thing bought. Luvverly.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 10:16:31


Post by: alphaecho


 BrookM wrote:
There is a massive art shift between book 1 and book 2 & 3 of Blood Quest, be warned.


The tone shift between 1 and 2 was quite jarring when collected in the same volume.

What do you reckon?

A budget increase for Warhammer Monthly back in the day?

That said, there was quite the art shift by Colin MacNeill over the course of his Insurrection series for 2000AD.




Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 10:24:52


Post by: BrookM


It was a change in artist IIRC, with Kev Walker taking over art duties.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 10:26:37


Post by: Overread


Might be budget, but might just be that it was recognised as valued and the artist was given more time to work on that comic over other duties/work in the company.

Heck quite a few comics shift over time, though normally its as the artists skill improves and the style make subtle shifts. Gunnerkriege looks very different now to what it did in the first issues.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 10:32:23


Post by: BrookM


Bloodquest went from a more traditional B&W look to a digital production, probably due to the success of Daemonifugue.

May be wrong here of course, but that's how it felt to me.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 10:51:45


Post by: H.B.M.C.


This is probably a dumb question, but did Blood Quest get an ending?


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 10:59:13


Post by: BrookM


No wait, yes it did end properly. I was mistaking the end of the second book for the third one, derp.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 11:31:22


Post by: Danny76


Xenologis doesn’t seem to be sold out yet..?
Or still available for pre order..

I don’t know if I want it. I’d like to read it, but then it’ll just take up space..
Do they do digital editions of that sort of thing?
Or maybe I just sell it on after..


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 11:37:30


Post by: Overread


Danny76 wrote:
Xenologis doesn’t seem to be sold out yet..?
Or still available for pre order..

I don’t know if I want it. I’d like to read it, but then it’ll just take up space..
Do they do digital editions of that sort of thing?
Or maybe I just sell it on after..


I don't think they do any lore/art books as digital releases. I do recall in the original community page that they were planning to bring the Liber to general stores, however I would wager its still going to be a book that's only stocked once and not continuous. So it might well be that once its gone its gone forever (or at least until a reprint which might take years to decades to never appearing). In general you shouldn't have trouble selling it on, lore/art books tend to retain their value esp once they are sold out and gone.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 11:42:22


Post by: Danny76


Yeah. I guess it might be best to get it in case I change my mind, then sell on if I decide to.
I’m sure down the line someone would really want it but not have gotten ahold, then they could have it at cost too as opposed to trawling eBay premiums..


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 11:51:12


Post by: Lord Damocles


£40 for Xenology 2? Nope.

My complete edition of Liber Chaotica was only £25 new; and my collectors of the original Xenology was £60.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 11:58:36


Post by: ImAGeek


 Lord Damocles wrote:
£40 for Xenology 2? Nope.

My complete edition of Liber Chaotica was only £25 new; and my collectors of the original Xenology was £60.


Books in general are a lot more expensive than they were 10-15 years ago. 40 quid for a hardback art book isn’t really expensive compared to hardback art books in general.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 11:59:59


Post by: Overread


Danny76 wrote:
Yeah. I guess it might be best to get it in case I change my mind, then sell on if I decide to.
I’m sure down the line someone would really want it but not have gotten ahold, then they could have it at cost too as opposed to trawling eBay premiums..


Also new people or those who didn't know about the book or weren't into xenos or lore/art books right now. There's a healthy market for lore and art books and its only the limited supply that pushes the prices up (the ones left on ebay tend to be the real scalper/insane prices that almost no one buys - the more reasonable ones get snapped up fast)


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/20 14:24:25


Post by: Irbis


 Irbis wrote:
Funnily enough it looks like they changed Ventris head (from terribad to just ugly). Result of mass dislike causing retool or just earlier prototype?

So, just like I said, head is new. Funnily box art is of old, terrible one still.

That said, closer look just made me dislike the model even more. There is a space on sprue for helmet, in multiple places, yet copy pasting one from either Ultramarine upgrade sprue was too much work apparently, they would need to waste all of 5 seconds, eh? What was not too much work though was adding chapter logo on boots (which both looks stupid and makes you wonder what chapter artisan would place them in first spot that gets dirty, some closeted chaos worshipper?). Halo is ugly too, instead of being round (which would make ultima inside right shape too) it's eggy, making both look wrong. Like, both UM mooks from KT:C have better ones, then there are like 5 good Ultramarine halos on upgrade sprues, why use something worse than your first exercise in 3D modelling?

And I agree with Mentlegen, his quote from bookmark sounds really juvenile. Katana/gorilla copypasta, anyone?


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/21 06:21:17


Post by: schoon


While $65 US is certainly expensive for a book, Xenology 1 was a treasure of both art and lore.

If the second book follows in kind, I'll be happy to have it.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/21 08:13:10


Post by: ImAGeek


 schoon wrote:
While $65 US is certainly expensive for a book, Xenology 1 was a treasure of both art and lore.

If the second book follows in kind, I'll be happy to have it.


Unfortunately from what we’ve seen so far, it doesn’t look anywhere near Xenology. I still bought it, because I’m weak and love an art book, but I’m a little disappointed so far.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/21 08:50:32


Post by: Coenus Scaldingus


 schoon wrote:
While $65 US is certainly expensive for a book, Xenology 1 was a treasure of both art and lore.

If the second book follows in kind, I'll be happy to have it.
I'm afraid that's akin to thinking "oh, I loved this Han Solo character in Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back, so I bet I'm going to greatly enjoy Solo: A Star Wars Story"... better lower your expectations, or prepare to be disappointed.

This one is certainly less dedicated to being an in-universe book, and I wouldn't expect it to be particularly in-depth either. I wonder if there's going to be much truly new info in it, or indeed species GW doesn't currently sell models for, or art that doesn't look exactly like the models sold in question.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/21 09:37:10


Post by: ImAGeek


 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
 schoon wrote:
While $65 US is certainly expensive for a book, Xenology 1 was a treasure of both art and lore.

If the second book follows in kind, I'll be happy to have it.
I'm afraid that's akin to thinking "oh, I loved this Han Solo character in Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back, so I bet I'm going to greatly enjoy Solo: A Star Wars Story"... better lower your expectations, or prepare to be disappointed.

This one is certainly less dedicated to being an in-universe book, and I wouldn't expect it to be particularly in-depth either. I wonder if there's going to be much truly new info in it, or indeed species GW doesn't currently sell models for, or art that doesn't look exactly like the models sold in question.


There’s definitely stuff they don’t sell models for - one of the pages on one of the WarCom links showed a Psychneuein from Thousand Sons. How much though remains to be seen.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/21 16:30:44


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


 ImAGeek wrote:
 schoon wrote:
While $65 US is certainly expensive for a book, Xenology 1 was a treasure of both art and lore.

If the second book follows in kind, I'll be happy to have it.


Unfortunately from what we’ve seen so far, it doesn’t look anywhere near Xenology. I still bought it, because I’m weak and love an art book, but I’m a little disappointed so far.


I am a sheep too.

Baa.

Baa.


Black Library Celebration 2021 - 27 Feb 2021 @ 2021/02/22 09:40:59


Post by: schoon


 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
 schoon wrote:
While $65 US is certainly expensive for a book, Xenology 1 was a treasure of both art and lore.

If the second book follows in kind, I'll be happy to have it.
I'm afraid that's akin to thinking "oh, I loved this Han Solo character in Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back, so I bet I'm going to greatly enjoy Solo: A Star Wars Story"... better lower your expectations, or prepare to be disappointed.


Heh-heh.

That is always the chance one takes for any sequel. Your point is well made though.

As I'm most interested in the fluff, I'm willing to risk it.