When I look at the Warhammer Community site this article isn't on the front page or in the "all latest news and features" section, how do people get these articles before they show there?
Mentlegen324 wrote: When I look at the Warhammer Community site this article isn't on the front page or in the "all latest news and features" section, how do people get these articles before they show there?
Mentlegen324 wrote: When I look at the Warhammer Community site this article isn't on the front page or in the "all latest news and features" section, how do people get these articles before they show there?
Articles go up roughly on the hour, and if you click into "All news" on Articles > News and Features it can list them before the main page updates.
Geifer wrote: I'm glad we get to see the silhouettes again. How terrible it would be to actually show us the models.
Right? We know what they are- the mystery left the building long ago.
Depending on how good they are. this might actually be tempting. I aggressively don't care about apps (they're actually negative value to me, because I hate the effects app-based play has on tabletop games), but model plus voucher plus shows plus vault could be worthwhile, if the models are good. (not having to wait a year is also a positive change)
Mentlegen324 wrote: When I look at the Warhammer Community site this article isn't on the front page or in the "all latest news and features" section, how do people get these articles before they show there?
GW somehow makes the facebook/twitter links live before the article is up on the front page of WarCom (but is still live on the site). Its... weird. Like the WarCom article status automation is five minutes behind, and they've just never bothered to correct it.
I was really hoping that they might say something to the effect of "we will actually spend some money fixing the apps this year" because the half finished TV video apps really felt like they were a Minimum Viable Product that needed another three months work and have had no updates since and Warhammer Vault is basically unusable.
Lobukia wrote: anyone know when they're shipping season 1's models?
They started a while back. If you've not had an email, go to the web store and see if they're showing up for you there (once you've logged in).
People who had a subscription to the app before WH+ was announced could order the models after 9 months. Everyone else has to wait 12. Mine shows as available to order from 27/8
This time around anyone who takes out an annual subscription can get the new models after the first month though.
The Phazer wrote: I was really hoping that they might say something to the effect of "we will actually spend some money fixing the apps this year" because the half finished TV video apps really felt like they were a Minimum Viable Product that needed another three months work and have had no updates since and Warhammer Vault is basically unusable.
They don't even have the army builder portion of the app fixed, which was mostly the reason for the app existing. Not only are GW totally incompetent with technology, they can't even seem to find a contractor that isn't to build out their apps.
Lobukia wrote: anyone know when they're shipping season 1's models?
Note if you're on a monthly sub you actually have to order the model on the webstore, even though its free - they don't just send it out automatically. I found this out when I logged in to my account to see if there was an estimated dispatch date. I presume it's tricky to automate on the back-end in case people stop and start their subscription or something. I don't know if its the same for annual subs.
Chaos terminator does look dope, but on the fence as to renew or not, as current trickle of content has been very hit or miss for me.
Didn't they promise vouchers and more exclusive stuff before though? Or was that just more of the "spend X-amount and get a small voucher later" sort of deal again?
Also, more apps? I'd wish they'd make that stuff Chromebook compatible, then it'd be worth it.
For me it's been worth it for the white dwarf back catalogue alone. At the current rate of progress they should have every magazine by the end of year three. It will be interesting to see what they do when they reach issues that don't just have gw content in them.
Here in Japan where buying the special mini separately would be more than half the price of an annual sub, it's actually a pretty good deal. I wish they'd just show the full minis. Maybe they are planning another preview show.
Oh my God, get on with it! You can't tease the same model twice and show nothing more the second time than you did the first one, several months before!
I'm somewhat reminded of the current situation with the various SW Disney+ shows that are filming - specifically Ahsoka and Mando Season 3.
We know these shows/models are coming. Stop pussyfooting around and just tell us who's in the cast/what these things actually are. Their existence isn't a surprise, so get on with it. It wouldn't certain save time with actors being forced to give vague answers in interviews/endless silhouette previews for things we already know about.
Chikout wrote: For me it's been worth it for the white dwarf back catalogue alone. At the current rate of progress they should have every magazine by the end of year three. It will be interesting to see what they do when they reach issues that don't just have gw content in them.
Here in Japan where buying the special mini separately would be more than half the price of an annual sub, it's actually a pretty good deal. I wish they'd just show the full minis. Maybe they are planning another preview show.
The "review show" is likely just article. They said you see them next week. Okay would be nice to see sooner but week isn't that long.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I'm somewhat reminded of the current situation with the various SW Disney+ shows that are filming - specifically Ahsoka and Mando Season 3.
We know these shows/models are coming. Stop pussyfooting around and just tell us who's in the cast/what these things actually are. Their existence isn't a surprise, so get on with it. It wouldn't certain save time with actors being forced to give vague answers in interviews/endless silhouette previews for things we already know about.
I don't follow Disney marketing, but if I were to apply GW's approach to it, Mando is supposed to come in February, which is still half a year away and they have Andor and Bad Batch to hype in the meantime. You could argue it's just the company not getting ahead of itself.
Meanwhile we're two weeks away from people being able to subscribe to Warhammer+ for the second year, and it will be less than that next week when GW wants to reveal the models. It's the most Kirbyesque GW has been about showing models since, well, you know. It's also a completely different approach to what they did last year when they revealed the models as perks of a subscription.
It's really kind of bogus, like Warhammer+ isn't doing well enough and the model reveal a week before year two is supposed to boost it with some impulse subscriptions.
that's actually fair reason for why they didn't automatically ship. I had been wondering as I thought they initially said they ship automatically.
Guess they could send email to please update default address some time before sending but automation has all sorts of issues. Maybe person is unavailable to respond in time for example.
I'll give benefit of doubt on that one that it's GW actually thinking about it
They could really do with doing some work on the vault, in its current state it’s border line unusable, long loading times without a save your spot feature accompanied by the pages refreshing if you ever click off them.
Ideally they would have an app similar to kindle where you can download the book you are interested in, and read throw it at your leisure.
Chikout wrote: For me it's been worth it for the white dwarf back catalogue alone. At the current rate of progress they should have every magazine by the end of year three. It will be interesting to see what they do when they reach issues that don't just have gw content in them.
We know what they'll do. The content just won't get shown, or more likely, we'll never see those White Dwarfs on W+.
I for one would love to see all the older articles I enjoyed back in the print day, eg Traveller RPG adventures, extras for other RPGs that are now well out of print, how to make terrain articles etc. WD used to be such a good magazine before it was a paid advert.
Chikout wrote: For me it's been worth it for the white dwarf back catalogue alone. At the current rate of progress they should have every magazine by the end of year three. It will be interesting to see what they do when they reach issues that don't just have gw content in them.
We know what they'll do. The content just won't get shown, or more likely, we'll never see those White Dwarfs on W+.
I for one would love to see all the older articles I enjoyed back in the print day, eg Traveller RPG adventures, extras for other RPGs that are now well out of print, how to make terrain articles etc. WD used to be such a good magazine before it was a paid advert.
Have you read it recently? It's not really a paid advert any more. They don't cover the new releases at all. I think it's a pretty good magazine these days, not worth the price they charge for it now but as part of Warhammer+ it's solid.
Chikout wrote: For me it's been worth it for the white dwarf back catalogue alone. At the current rate of progress they should have every magazine by the end of year three. It will be interesting to see what they do when they reach issues that don't just have gw content in them.
We know what they'll do. The content just won't get shown, or more likely, we'll never see those White Dwarfs on W+.
I for one would love to see all the older articles I enjoyed back in the print day, eg Traveller RPG adventures, extras for other RPGs that are now well out of print, how to make terrain articles etc. WD used to be such a good magazine before it was a paid advert.
Have to say gw has very curious paid advert strategy advertising long time ago releases.
Usually paid ad's are for new releases. Guess gw messed up eh?
Toofast wrote: So they're both chaos? Easy pass for me this year, especially since the content last year was underwhelming
It's a salamander in terminator armor for sure.
It’s for sure chaos.
And 99% based ok that art with the silhouette being an almost exact match.
I think there’s confusion here. The stack of three images do not all show the one thing.
The Salamander bit is from an upcoming animation. And it’s doesn’t relate to the next two images, which I think we’re all confident are a Chaos Terminator modelled after a piece of classic artwork.
Anyone who thinks that termi silhouette is Salamanders is gonna be really disappointed. I am curious about their decision for 2 chaos models this year. I've never had an interest in playing any form of chaos in AoS or 40k. I thought last year was genius to use an assassin as any imperial player can use him, so he might not just sit on a shelf for 30 years collecting dust.
True. But I think they are very much also about just being ‘special pieces’ more than usable.
A fantasy Orc is only usable by one lot of people anyway.
Obviously it’s great when usable too, but it’s like the Games Day models, they brought them out just with the whole fomo I guess.
Also I just want to scream into the void about how useless it is to put old rulebooks on the app without any of the rule content. That was ostensibly most of the point of those books, right?
Campaign books are about both fluff and rules. Of course the rules are no longer supported, so they get cut. Which is stupid, but what are you going to do?
It seems that GW's intent with the exclusive models is to tie them into the year of Chaos they're doing. New Chaos Marines, new Warcry, new Daemons book, new Slaves to Darkness. Would more universally usable models be better for more people? Sure. But since they have a theme for the year, it seems they want to tie in the exclusives as well.
Toofast wrote: Also I just want to scream into the void about how useless it is to put old rulebooks on the app without any of the rule content. That was ostensibly most of the point of those books, right?
The vast majority of the books are campaign books which are usually 50% lore and 50% rules. Obviously they could have just put up the whole book but an expanding compilation of old gw lore is a pretty good thing to have not to mention all the great art those books included. There are rumours of a vault app which would make those things much easier to access. I've said it before but the vault is the reason I'm going to continue my subscription.
Toofast wrote: Anyone know the deadline to sign up if you want the assassin? Just saw his ebay price is more than the sub.
I believe it was end of July, ie. two weeks ago.
I think it's bit of duck move to send year one miniatures to new subscribers when majority of day one subscribers are still waiting for the opportunity to pick theirs.
Chaos sorceress looks great. Halo is a bit much, but easily detached. I like the look of someone trying for power but falling to chaos mutation.
The terminator... eh. It reminds me of the SoB character model from the artwork. Knowing they were going to do this model, I'd hope they'd avoid the pitfalls of doing a 1 to 1 art to model transition, and do some finesse updates. Alas, no.
So it just looks clunky and more than a bit silly- the gun and the fist definitely don't help- it looks like someone plucked most of the legs of the spider, rather than fingers. And the pose makes the standard terminator shoulder problem even worse. No idea what the elongated genestealer head is about.
And I get that the KT space hulk thing is coming. But this minimal basing thing for 40k models is starting to feel weird. This isn't ship debris, just a couple rocks and some gravel on barely painted plastic.
I like the Terminator, aside from the dreadful paintjob. Not big on the sorcerer. The familiars are the real highlight here, but I'm not sure they're enough to sway me. But I think I can stay subscribed for the Terminator.
The sorceress is okay, but those familiars are amazing! I have the original version of both the hooded scroll carrier and the little warrior (mine is named Mr. Stabby and he belongs to my repurposed Aekold Hellbrass). The fish thing and the walking cauldron are nice too.
Toofast wrote: Anyone know the deadline to sign up if you want the assassin? Just saw his ebay price is more than the sub.
I believe it was end of July, ie. two weeks ago.
I think it's bit of duck move to send year one miniatures to new subscribers when majority of day one subscribers are still waiting for the opportunity to pick theirs.
Huh? You just go on the website and get it. You don't wait for it.
Toofast wrote: Anyone know the deadline to sign up if you want the assassin? Just saw his ebay price is more than the sub.
I believe it was end of July, ie. two weeks ago.
I think it's bit of duck move to send year one miniatures to new subscribers when majority of day one subscribers are still waiting for the opportunity to pick theirs.
Huh? You just go on the website and get it. You don't wait for it.
Yes, but some of us are still waiting for the opportunity to do that. I, for example, can’t claim mine until the 25th (despite subscribing literally from day one).
/Edit - unless you mean Veridyan, in which case I agree.
Yep. Veridyan.
Art directly to model doesn't work very well. Needs a concept art and reality check phase for what works in very stylized fantasy art and what works on a 3d model.
Ohman wrote: So, how do I get these? Take out a one year subscription?
Annual Sub to get them soon, or 12 consecutive monthly subs.
Sorry for asking you rather than GW but I tried and could only choose between the Assassin and the Orc Boss. I guess I just wait awhile until the new miniatures are live?
Ohman wrote: So, how do I get these? Take out a one year subscription?
Annual Sub to get them soon, or 12 consecutive monthly subs.
Sorry for asking you rather than GW but I tried and could only choose between the Assassin and the Orc Boss. I guess I just wait awhile until the new miniatures are live?
If you mean the two new chaos models, those are available for subscribing in year 2 (from the end of this month)
Ohman wrote: So, how do I get these? Take out a one year subscription?
Annual Sub to get them soon, or 12 consecutive monthly subs.
Sorry for asking you rather than GW but I tried and could only choose between the Assassin and the Orc Boss. I guess I just wait awhile until the new miniatures are live?
If you mean the two new chaos models, those are available for subscribing in year 2 (from the end of this month)
So If I sign up in September I can get the new ones, alright then. I wonder If there is a way to get the models for both years? Or will this years models be retired when the new ones are "released".
From the article, the new ones seem to be the option now and the year one options have passed
And if you signed up for an annual subscription for Warhammer+ by the end of July, you can claim your exclusive Year One miniature in August. You’ll receive an email within the next week (if you haven’t already had one) to let you know that your free miniature is ready to order from the Games Workshop webstore.
As a non-Chaos player the models are no draw to me to re-subscribe. I do think it was a bit of an odd move to tie both models to Chaos you cut off anyone who isn't a Chaos player. I've really enjoyed year one. The video content, while slow to release, has been good particularly the Battle Reports and Painting Masterclass. Add in the models and vouchers and the sub has been worth it. The Vault is a nice addition. The 40K app however is dire and is of no value.
Now if the Vault was actually useable it would go from a nice addition to probably a majority of the value of the sub. If they bothered to get anyone to take a look at and fix the 40K app it would be worth considering as part of the subs value. In this case even not liking the models I'd likely re-sub but as it is the whole thing without the models is a nice idea not quite executed properly.
MG Artworks on Facebook wrote:Painted a mere 28 years ago, I think (the previously unnamed) Azrakh the Annihilator is my most-published Games Workshop piece, but it's a painting that almost never happened.
I submitted his sketch as a freelance commission to GW and when John Blanche reviewed it he asked for a more dynamic, arms-raised, posture. In a 'deeply uncharacteristic' fit of pique, I said if I couldn't paint him the way I wanted to, then I wasn't going to paint him at all!
John, not wanting to escalate my diva moment to Beyoncé-like proportions, relented and all these years later Azrakh strides onto the tabletop, courtesy of the warp-powered sculpting & painting masters within the GW Design Studio.
It's a fantastic realisation of the artwork - the cover of my fav issue of WD of all time! - and I will find a way to obtain this...
Tallonian4th wrote: As a non-Chaos player the models are no draw to me to re-subscribe. I do think it was a bit of an odd move to tie both models to Chaos you cut off anyone who isn't a Chaos player. I've really enjoyed year one. The video content, while slow to release, has been good particularly the Battle Reports and Painting Masterclass. Add in the models and vouchers and the sub has been worth it. The Vault is a nice addition. The 40K app however is dire and is of no value.
Now if the Vault was actually useable it would go from a nice addition to probably a majority of the value of the sub. If they bothered to get anyone to take a look at and fix the 40K app it would be worth considering as part of the subs value. In this case even not liking the models I'd likely re-sub but as it is the whole thing without the models is a nice idea not quite executed properly.
You can always sell the model on if you don't like it - there's bound to be demand for a limited edition model.
I'm surprised to read that's his most published piece. Yeah it's good and also well known but I can think of many (to my mind) more iconic works by MG.
Geifer wrote: I like the Terminator, aside from the dreadful paintjob. Not big on the sorcerer. The familiars are the real highlight here, but I'm not sure they're enough to sway me. But I think I can stay subscribed for the Terminator.
I think you're going to have to clarify the things that make this paint job 'dreadful' here.
JWBS wrote: I'm surprised to read that's his most published piece. Yeah it's good and also well known but I can think of many (to my mind) more iconic works by MG.
I think it definitely received more exposure than some of his other work
It was a WD cover plus the work was the miniatures catalogue cover.
I wouldn't say my personal Mark Gibbons drawn favourites, the Catachan Captain and a Blood Axe Kommando, are iconic but I certainly consider them to be better than that Chaos Marine.
So with the sorceress, I think each familiar corresponds with one of the four Chaos Gods:
* The Cauldron has a khorne icon on the handle (weird for a magic user, but ok)
* The fishman is probably Nurgle
* The hooded scribe is Tzeentchian
* And is the warrior meant for Slaanesh?
That's kind of cool. I guess the old familiar of the naked lady may have been better for slaanesh, but I can see why they didn't do that one. Plus the lil knight is awesome
That terminator is fantastic. A wonderful rendition of the artwork, and a pretty darn spectacular paint job.
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GaroRobe wrote: So with the sorceress, I think each familiar corresponds with one of the four Chaos Gods:
* The Cauldron has a khorne icon on the handle (weird for a magic user, but ok)
I think that's just a skull. It has the Nurgle spot triad on the cauldron itself. Wouldn't make much sense to represent either a Khornate sorcerer, or a familiar for same.
I don't think they're intended to line up with anything specifically. The little armoured dude and the scribe at least are resculpts from the original familiar range, which had a god-specific familiar for each (that just looked like a teeny tiny Greater Daemon) and a whole bunch of generic familiars.
Terminator looks amazing paint job is near perfect.
Automatically Appended Next Post: The toad could actually be slanesh. As he is playing music and look his bush is the bigest. Seriously look between his legs.
insaniak wrote: Yeah, if I were to line them up, it would be the cauldron for Nurgle, toad for Slaanesh, scribe for Tzeentch and the warrior for Chaos Undivided.
If you look closely, the ladle in the mouth of the cauldron has a khorne skull icon on it.
Its easiest to see at the 0:28 mark
It could be just some generic skull, but it looks more like his symbol imo
Its a full (though small) skull. Well, missing the top, but full other than that. Easy to mistake, given the khorne rune is in the form of a skull outline.
Though really, the cauldron familiar eating a Ladle of Khorne has some nice symbolism.
I’m actually pretty happy they didn’t copy the silver tower ones. They are still pretty easy to get on eBay and I already the two that came with the game. Two classic familiars and two new designs is also a nice balance.
Geifer wrote: I like the Terminator, aside from the dreadful paintjob. Not big on the sorcerer. The familiars are the real highlight here, but I'm not sure they're enough to sway me. But I think I can stay subscribed for the Terminator.
I think you're going to have to clarify the things that make this paint job 'dreadful' here.
Let’s not spend the thread discussing one guy’s take on the paint scheme. All art is subjective. He’s had his attention, move on!
For me the model and the paint job could scarcely be more perfect and close to the original art. Nailing the silhouette is a bonus. Stunning miniature.
Shame they won’t be brave enough to make a unit of them, and that I’ll never get one as it’s paywalled behind their poor attempt at a subscription streaming service. The content is just so weak.
I wasn’t sure but the addition of the familiars has convinced me to roll over the sub to year 2 I was also finally able to order the year 1 Megaboss this morning
I never got the email that stated that I could order my Vindicare. I just checked out of curiosity and could just order it anyway. So if you are still waiting on the mail, just login on the store page and search for the model.
Btw.: If someone want's the Orruk model, but doesn't want to sign up for Warhammer+ PM me. 34€ + shipping. I still can order it until end of the month I think.
Yep, that terminator is absolutely perfect. I love how close it is to the artwork, I still love the design of the gun and I still think the chain-fingers are dumb but still somehow great.
I do not want a WH+ subscription but I do want that figure...
At £60 for the year, is it not worth it for folk to sign up for the year, just to never have to deal with Scalpers?
You get one model priced at £26 part and parcel, access to some Good Background albeit In A Bad Format. I mean…at least then the excess money paid for the model is getting you something?
Plus voucher, apps, videos. If you want one or both models it's not that pricey. Largely why i subbed in the first place. As orruk appealed made price of rest small
BrookM wrote: They say vouchers, what kind of are we talking here? More of the "spend money and get a voucher for x-amount spent" again?
I honestly can’t remember. I think I got two. One a straight up voucher (early bird reward perhaps?) the other spend X get Y.
Sure you can only use them at GW, but pretty sure that’s how I paid for my Delaque expansion Gangers? And with Heresy offering Direct Only weapon sprues, I dare say GW only vouchers have an appeal today they’ve not had for a while?
ekwatts wrote: Yep, that terminator is absolutely perfect. I love how close it is to the artwork, I still love the design of the gun and I still think the chain-fingers are dumb but still somehow great.
I do not want a WH+ subscription but I do want that figure...
Hi, I‘m contemplating to subscribe after seeing the sorceress and am not interested in the termie, so… maybe contact me in about two weeks?
Still not really decided to pull the trigger, though.
IIRC its just a straight up 10-pound (IIRC 15 USD) voucher for use on their webstore (does not work with forgeworld if I recall correctly). No minimum purchase sizes or anything.
I was a littlie worried when I saw the previews that both were chaos, however I'm really liking that sorceress! Got no use for the Terminator so that's me for another year!
On this years models I'm still on the 25th of this month before I can unlock my purchase according to the webstore.
Overread wrote: I was a littlie worried when I saw the previews that both were chaos, however I'm really liking that sorceress! Got no use for the Terminator so that's me for another year!
On this years models I'm still on the 25th of this month before I can unlock my purchase according to the webstore.
HBMC is in the market for the Terminator. I’m sure you guys can arrange something between yourselves
Overread wrote: I was a littlie worried when I saw the previews that both were chaos, however I'm really liking that sorceress! Got no use for the Terminator so that's me for another year!
On this years models I'm still on the 25th of this month before I can unlock my purchase according to the webstore.
HBMC is in the market for the Terminator. I’m sure you guys can arrange something between yourselves
Not yet sure if I'll sub for the year in one go or monthly. I've enough of a backlog that I don't "need" the model right now. So it could be mine doesn't appear for a year .
Overread wrote:I was a littlie worried when I saw the previews that both were chaos, however I'm really liking that sorceress! Got no use for the Terminator so that's me for another year!
On this years models I'm still on the 25th of this month before I can unlock my purchase according to the webstore.
Mine was saying the same thing and then I had an e-mail this evening allowing me to order it, so you might not have to wait all that long?
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Overread wrote: I was a littlie worried when I saw the previews that both were chaos, however I'm really liking that sorceress! Got no use for the Terminator so that's me for another year!
On this years models I'm still on the 25th of this month before I can unlock my purchase according to the webstore.
HBMC is in the market for the Terminator. I’m sure you guys can arrange something between yourselves
I’m really not bothered about either model, so I’m on the fence about re subscribing, but I’m happy to consider an “arrangement” if anyone’s interested.
I think I'm going to do the single payment next month before all the extra costs on my bills hit. Not bothered about doing the monthly one and I want the termie. I may even see about getting the other model later on, although I am not familiar what with its seemingly based on.
laam999 wrote: For all the talk of when you can order the current models (assassin) I had a check, mine says 30th, that seems like cutting it awfully fine.
I think the “ordering” is not the same as subscribing to be entitled to order it (which I think is where the deadline is)?
At £60 for the year, is it not worth it for folk to sign up for the year, just to never have to deal with Scalpers?
I mean, it's a lovely model... But no, it's not 60 quid lovely.
Just for the sake of avoiding misinformation or sloppiness, Warhammer+ is definitely less than that if you subscribe for the model and do the annual one. I can't check GBP prices, but it's 55€ for a yearly subscription and 11€ more if you subscribe for twelve individual months instead. The model is priced at 34€ (although I don't know it used to be from the start or has been subjected to February's price increase). If you get the annual subscription at the end of August, you'll get a 12€ voucher. If you're in it for the model and can make use of the voucher (which isn't hard, as the free shipping threshold is low these days and you can get an above 40% discount and free shipping on a clampack character), you're looking at 9€ for a year's access to the shows, vault and stuff.
Not trying to sell you on it or anything, just trying to get the facts straight. You'll know best if it's worth it to you or not. Me, I don't think the above is a terrible deal. Which is why I subscribed last year and will do so again this year.
On topic of scalpers, I very much doubt you'll get either of the models cheaper than if you go straight through GW. Although I think as suggested further up in the thread if you can find someone reliable who only wants the model you don't want, teaming up can be the cheapest way of getting your hands on the model. Though depending on whether such an arrangement involves postage, you may end up in the same region as the subscription without the extra benefits.
To those who have experience with W+:
I went to the subscription site to see if I can get the end-of-August voucher and one of the year 2 models. That seems not possible because it wants me to select the model when signing up, with ork and assassin being the only options.
So I guess I will have to wait until September to subscribe if I want the sorceress, missing out on the voucher.
Any ideas? Thanks!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, never mind - they’ve updated the text in the article. You have to subscribe on or after 25 August to get a year 2 mini.
The Vindicare and Orc should get retired and replaced by the Terminator and Sorceress on the 25th (the first day of the second year and the day the voucher promotion starts, see below), thus enabling you to subscribe with the choice of new models and get the voucher.
GW wrote:Bag a £10 Voucher
If you’re a new or existing subscriber with an active subscription between the 25th and 31st August, and you stay subscribed throughout September, you’ll get a £10 voucher to spend on the Games Workshop webstore, just like last year!*
I guess beginning of the last week of August is not the most memorable date for the customer, but that's what GW went with.
TheGoodGerman wrote: To those who have experience with W+:
I went to the subscription site to see if I can get the end-of-August voucher and one of the year 2 models. That seems not possible because it wants me to select the model when signing up, with ork and assassin being the only options.
So I guess I will have to wait until September to subscribe if I want the sorceress, missing out on the voucher.
Any ideas? Thanks!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, never mind - they’ve updated the text in the article. You have to subscribe on or after 25 August to get a year 2 mini.
Yeah but if you sign up now, you can get the Assissin/Orruk and then you only need to prolong your subscription next year by a single month and you get the Sorceress as well. Heck you might get it anyway right in September, because there are people who signed up in July already. I would not be surprised if their system actually doesn't notice that you are not directly entitled to the other one as well.
Sweet. I know there’s an element of false economy, but so far that’s £36 I’m extracting from the overall cost, and as I enjoy the digital content (though as ever they really need to put the Vault into a proper reader format) I’m not gonna feel short changed.
Other opinions are of course available, and no less valid.
laam999 wrote: For all the talk of when you can order the current models (assassin) I had a check, mine says 30th, that seems like cutting it awfully fine.
I think the “ordering” is not the same as subscribing to be entitled to order it (which I think is where the deadline is)?
Ok, I know I didn't sign up day 1 but if they're pulling the old one end August I was worried I may miss it. It was pretty much the only reason I subbed.
If you subscribed on launch day in Year One and choose to renew, you will get your pick of these awesome miniatures from the 28th of August.*** Otherwise you will be able to take your pick on your renewal date.
Toofast wrote: Also I just want to scream into the void about how useless it is to put old rulebooks on the app without any of the rule content. That was ostensibly most of the point of those books, right?
The 3rd/4th editions of 40k had great codices for lore. The Oldcron codex is worth reading just for the atmosphere.
Similarly, for WHFB, 5th edition followed by the very different 6th/7th codices are fun to read to see how the setting evolved.
I purchased today. Wanted that termie. I wonder if the option exists for the purchase of additional models that you chose as the 'free' one aswell as the other option. Some good conversion potential.
queen_annes_revenge wrote: I purchased today. Wanted that termie. I wonder if the option exists for the purchase of additional models that you chose as the 'free' one aswell as the other option. Some good conversion potential.
Limited to one of each (cart restricts it to 1) so you can't double up on the option you picked as the free one.
" To claim, subscribers will need to order their miniature or miniatures of choice through the webstore, and the miniatures will then be shipped and delivered as usual. "
"Warhammer+ subscribers who have selected this product as their free miniature will be entitled to FREE standard shipping on the order that contains this miniature."
So in theory, anyone with the annual subscription who waits until October 1st to place the order in the store can apply the £10 voucher to the other model, and get both at the same time for £14 with free shipping.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: I like how despite being based on such ancient artwork, he still has modern Terminator, er, anatomy.
I mean, so does the artwork, so I'm not sure what the 'despite' refers to here.
He's actually not quite as badly constructed as some modern termies... Head is still way too low compared to the shoulders, but his armpits are at least below his chin.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: I like how despite being based on such ancient artwork, he still has modern Terminator, er, anatomy.
I mean, so does the artwork, so I'm not sure what the 'despite' refers to here.
He's actually not quite as badly constructed as some modern termies... Head is still way too low compared to the shoulders, but his armpits are at least below his chin.
Frankly, I really formulated that badly, I meant more like the mechanical bits - the pistons and the lot, they used to look considerably simpler and different on older minis.
Year 2 charge just went through and I can pick my free mini in MyWarhammer but the orders aren't live yet on the store. Went for the Sorcerer but I'll be buying the Terminator as well.
DaveC wrote: Year 2 charge just went through and I can pick my free mini in MyWarhammer but the orders aren't live yet on the store. Went for the Sorcerer but I'll be buying the Terminator as well.
I might even watch some Warhammer+ at some point!
Ah, good to know that I'm not the only one who hasn't taken advantage of most of the subscription services! At least the TV side has the series organised, but every time I look at the vault I am staggered how there's no option to sort or order the books, and everything just sits in order of upload. A search function alone is not enough.
Eh, I did say I wasn't going to get the Termie because of Warhammer+, but maybe it's worth getting a year subscription to check out the content and get the Termie.
What's the content like these days? Is it actually good or only stuff a rabid GW fan would like? I'm not really down for content simply because it's GW related content, but if it's actually good then it's a bit more interesting to me.
It seems I was a fool trying to be prepared. I was on a monthly sub for year 1, saw it was due to renew today, so a couple of days ago upgraded to a yearly thinking it would bill me today - as in, add time to my existing sub. No, they've refunded me for July and I can't select my year 2 mini.
Have emailed customer support but ughhhhh GW why.
However, keep in mind if you annual subscribe, in U.K. prices it’s £50.00. For that I get a £24 model, a £10 voucher (which will likely be redeemed against the other Model, maybe some shooty Leviathan arms), leaving me with just £14 worth of value to extract from the subscription itself.
Now that last bit is of course incredibly subjective, but breaking down to a quid and bit each month, I don’t think I’ll be left feeling short changed.
YMMV of course. I’m only offering my thoughts, not facts.
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Ashaar wrote: It seems I was a fool trying to be prepared. I was on a monthly sub for year 1, saw it was due to renew today, so a couple of days ago upgraded to a yearly thinking it would bill me today - as in, add time to my existing sub. No, they've refunded me for July and I can't select my year 2 mini.
Have emailed customer support but ughhhhh GW why.
Fingers crossed there’s a work around
If it helps, I paid my annual sub today and was able to make my selection. But, it’s not let me actually order it just yet.
DaveC wrote: Year 2 charge just went through and I can pick my free mini in MyWarhammer but the orders aren't live yet on the store. Went for the Sorcerer but I'll be buying the Terminator as well.
I might even watch some Warhammer+ at some point!
Ah, good to know that I'm not the only one who hasn't taken advantage of most of the subscription services! At least the TV side has the series organised, but every time I look at the vault I am staggered how there's no option to sort or order the books, and everything just sits in order of upload. A search function alone is not enough.
yes that is a bit of a pain..you'd think they might archive it a bit better. Old game rulebooks (sans all the rules), white dwarves, lore etc etc.
AllSeeingSkink wrote: Eh, I did say I wasn't going to get the Termie because of Warhammer+, but maybe it's worth getting a year subscription to check out the content and get the Termie.
What's the content like these days? Is it actually good or only stuff a rabid GW fan would like? I'm not really down for content simply because it's GW related content, but if it's actually good then it's a bit more interesting to me.
I haven't given the vault a look myself, but if you're like me and wouldn't spend money on GW's dodgy fluff endeavors at full book price, you'd be able to read a fair number of recentish campaign books for a lot less. I haven't read White Dwarf in forever, so I don't know if there's any appeal in it.
The painting tutorials I watched seemed functional. I have no use for them, and given you've been around long enough the same is probably true for you.
I've only watched the first and last lore videos, Abaddon and Squats. Largely because I prefer to read this kind of stuff rather than watch someone talk about it. They seem like comprehensive summaries based on the Abaddon one, but may not go into enough detail for your taste. The Squat one felt more substantial, but that may be because it's all new stuff from the as of yet unreleased codex with only scarce Warhammer Community articles that overlap it. May be of interest to listen to on the side or if you want an overview of something that happens to have a video.
Battle reports seemed fun enough if you're interested in the games.
I don't play, so I don't know what shape the apps are in.
I overwhelmingly found the various animations entertaining. They're hardly flawless, but it didn't feel like that ever got in the way except in the case of one Hammer and Bolter episode. As hinted at above, I'm not fond of GW's writing these days, at least what makes it into codices and campaign books, but I got a lot of fun out of the animations. So while I wouldn't spend money on those books to read modern fluff, I have no regrets about spending on Warhammer+ for, effectively, just the miniature and animations. Caveat, since that may be relevant here, but some individuals have been known to call my taste in movies trashy, so my opinion may not be of particular use to you.
What was criticized about the service a year ago is still true. A fair bit of it is stuff you can get for free elsewhere, and possibly better and/or in larger quantities. And as suspected early on, the release of new animations is slow. For myself I can say (and have, occasionally) that after the miniature and the voucher, a year of Warhammer+ is so cheap that I don't feel bad about subscribing and feel like I get my money's worth from the animations. If I wanted to subscribe for a month to binge them, I'd pay a little more than half of what remains of the yearly subscription cost. I don't think the difference is substantial enough to forego getting access around the year at my leisure.
I didn't sub last year, as I thought the W+ stuff looked very mediocre & the models were not enough to swing it.
This year, I love the models and was almost tempted to take a year sub out. Trouble is I feel that its encouraging the mediocrity of the W+ content to continue. I know if you count the relevant cost of the models & any other vouchers/extras, W+ is next to nothing. But I still feel what they offer on there is so below the minimum standard set by every other resource online.
I'd much rather see W+ improve, offer subs without hiding behind 'free' miniatures and start offering content that others just cant match.
Literally South Park tier. My favourite part is where you can tell they just flipped the asset for guy's head because his scar teleports to the other side of his face for a moment where he looks the other way.
chaos0xomega wrote: I think the ability to place the order doesn't actually open up until september
It’s confusing. One member of the Loot Group picked his the same time I did, and he was able to complete the order. My choice is noted, but I’ve no way to Add To Cart and check out. I did however get notification it’d be available from 15 September though.
Interested in the Lore. I want to be interested in the Battle Report too, but that will depend on how much detail they give me about the Squat’s weapon stats etc, as that seems to be something largely glossed over in others, instead being “this unit shot that unit and here are some dice rolls with little context and now he lost three dudes”.
chaos0xomega wrote: I think the ability to place the order doesn't actually open up until september
It’s confusing. One member of the Loot Group picked his the same time I did, and he was able to complete the order. My choice is noted, but I’ve no way to Add To Cart and check out. I did however get notification it’d be available from 15 September though.
yeah, I was able to select my choice but not to order it, same as you. Wonder if it was an error that allowed the other guy to complete his? Either way I'll guess we'll see soon enough.
Literally South Park tier. My favourite part is where you can tell they just flipped the asset for guy's head because his scar teleports to the other side of his face for a moment where he looks the other way.
I mean it’s literally not South Park tier.
Closer to like Dragonball Z or other animes etc.
It’s an artistic style, yes a cheaper one.
And you’re proving the point with that one show. Picking one of their lesser shows. If you used one of the other three released, two are a lot higher quality so wouldn’t suit your argument. And Interrogator is noir so not comparable.
But that’s just your thing, to gak on anything you can. You do you. As It’s the internet.
RexHavoc wrote: I didn't sub last year, as I thought the W+ stuff looked very mediocre & the models were not enough to swing it.
This year, I love the models and was almost tempted to take a year sub out. Trouble is I feel that its encouraging the mediocrity of the W+ content to continue. I know if you count the relevant cost of the models & any other vouchers/extras, W+ is next to nothing. But I still feel what they offer on there is so below the minimum standard set by every other resource online.
I'd much rather see W+ improve, offer subs without hiding behind 'free' miniatures and start offering content that others just cant match.
Frankly that's a little naive. If you want the models, sub. Take the other stuff as a bonus. Your little protest isn't going to change anything.
Ashaar wrote: It seems I was a fool trying to be prepared. I was on a monthly sub for year 1, saw it was due to renew today, so a couple of days ago upgraded to a yearly thinking it would bill me today - as in, add time to my existing sub. No, they've refunded me for July and I can't select my year 2 mini.
Have emailed customer support but ughhhhh GW why.
Lol, I have the same situation... monthly subscribed since august 2021. 25/08/2022 I claimed my Orruk Megaboss, and after this I upgraded to an annual subscription for the year 2 mini. What happened is that I got a refund for the month of july.. and can only select the year one mini, which I already claimed.
What a mess. I emailed them, so I hope they will fix it or atleast give me a refund, as the intend was not to pay two years on a row for the year 1 mini. ;-)
chaos0xomega wrote: I think the ability to place the order doesn't actually open up until september
It’s confusing. One member of the Loot Group picked his the same time I did, and he was able to complete the order. My choice is noted, but I’ve no way to Add To Cart and check out. I did however get notification it’d be available from 15 September though.
yeah, I was able to select my choice but not to order it, same as you. Wonder if it was an error that allowed the other guy to complete his? Either way I'll guess we'll see soon enough.
I couldn't order mine earlier today when my sub renewed, but when I went back to the MyWarhammer page just now, a pop-up informed me that I could order my model.
chaos0xomega wrote: I think the ability to place the order doesn't actually open up until september
It’s confusing. One member of the Loot Group picked his the same time I did, and he was able to complete the order. My choice is noted, but I’ve no way to Add To Cart and check out. I did however get notification it’d be available from 15 September though.
yeah, I was able to select my choice but not to order it, same as you. Wonder if it was an error that allowed the other guy to complete his? Either way I'll guess we'll see soon enough.
I couldn't order mine earlier today when my sub renewed, but when I went back to the MyWarhammer page just now, a pop-up informed me that I could order my model.
I got the pop-up, but when I clicked on it, it still didn't work. Did yours?
chaos0xomega wrote: I think the ability to place the order doesn't actually open up until september
It’s confusing. One member of the Loot Group picked his the same time I did, and he was able to complete the order. My choice is noted, but I’ve no way to Add To Cart and check out. I did however get notification it’d be available from 15 September though.
yeah, I was able to select my choice but not to order it, same as you. Wonder if it was an error that allowed the other guy to complete his? Either way I'll guess we'll see soon enough.
I couldn't order mine earlier today when my sub renewed, but when I went back to the MyWarhammer page just now, a pop-up informed me that I could order my model.
I got the pop-up, but when I clicked on it, it still didn't work. Did yours?
Clicking took me to my chosen free model on the GW store, which I could add to my basket. Then I went back to my subscriptions to link through to add the other model. I checked-out and ordered both.
Shakalooloo wrote: Clicking took me to my chosen free model on the GW store, which I could add to my basket. Then I went back to my subscriptions to link through to add the other model. I checked-out and ordered both.
Oh, good! I clicked, and got to the listing on the site, but I still don't have the "order" option on it. I will try to be patient for now and if it still isn't working tomorrow, I'll shoot them an email.
AllSeeingSkink wrote: Eh, I did say I wasn't going to get the Termie because of Warhammer+, but maybe it's worth getting a year subscription to check out the content and get the Termie.
What's the content like these days? Is it actually good or only stuff a rabid GW fan would like? I'm not really down for content simply because it's GW related content, but if it's actually good then it's a bit more interesting to me.
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I haven't given the vault a look myself, but if you're like me and wouldn't spend money on GW's dodgy fluff endeavors at full book price, you'd be able to read a fair number of recentish campaign books for a lot less. I haven't read White Dwarf in forever, so I don't know if there's any appeal in it.
The painting tutorials I watched seemed functional. I have no use for them, and given you've been around long enough the same is probably true for you.
I've only watched the first and last lore videos, Abaddon and Squats. Largely because I prefer to read this kind of stuff rather than watch someone talk about it. They seem like comprehensive summaries based on the Abaddon one, but may not go into enough detail for your taste. The Squat one felt more substantial, but that may be because it's all new stuff from the as of yet unreleased codex with only scarce Warhammer Community articles that overlap it. May be of interest to listen to on the side or if you want an overview of something that happens to have a video.
Battle reports seemed fun enough if you're interested in the games.
I don't play, so I don't know what shape the apps are in.
I overwhelmingly found the various animations entertaining. They're hardly flawless, but it didn't feel like that ever got in the way except in the case of one Hammer and Bolter episode. As hinted at above, I'm not fond of GW's writing these days, at least what makes it into codices and campaign books, but I got a lot of fun out of the animations. So while I wouldn't spend money on those books to read modern fluff, I have no regrets about spending on Warhammer+ for, effectively, just the miniature and animations. Caveat, since that may be relevant here, but some individuals have been known to call my taste in movies trashy, so my opinion may not be of particular use to you.
What was criticized about the service a year ago is still true. A fair bit of it is stuff you can get for free elsewhere, and possibly better and/or in larger quantities. And as suspected early on, the release of new animations is slow. For myself I can say (and have, occasionally) that after the miniature and the voucher, a year of Warhammer+ is so cheap that I don't feel bad about subscribing and feel like I get my money's worth from the animations. If I wanted to subscribe for a month to binge them, I'd pay a little more than half of what remains of the yearly subscription cost. I don't think the difference is substantial enough to forego getting access around the year at my leisure.
Hope that helps, as subjective as it is.
Thanks for the rundown.
I feel like I wouldn't value battle reports, unless there's something really special about them, I rarely watch battle reps on YT (usually only if it's a game I'm unfamiliar with and trying to see if it's something I'll enjoy).
What format are vault books in? Is it something I can download and view on a different (offline) device, or only through some viewer on the website?
I'm a bit confused about the miniatures, looking at the terms on the website, if someone hasn't been subscribed in year 1, if you start an annual subscription you will be able to get the model 22 days after starting the subscription? But it sounds like people are already ordering it?
Azazelx wrote: Just checked the AU prices - the £24 model translates to AU$66.
You know, instead of $41. I realise they want to bake in some currency buffer, but it's a bit ridiculous...
That's just standard GW practice, AU prices are usually inflated by a good 50% at least compared to the actual exchange rate.
That's not really standard practice, standard practice is to get a number out of the random number generator and use that to determine the exchange rate.
A lot of the time GW exchange rate is not far off the real exchange rate, other times it's flying rodent gak insane.
AllSeeingSkink wrote: What format are vault books in? Is it something I can download and view on a different (offline) device, or only through some viewer on the website?
To the best of my not very tech savvy self's knowledge you can't download any of it. Would probably not be a good subscription service if it provided the option to download stuff, I reckon.
It opens with Adobe Acrobat in my browser. Not sure if that makes it PDF or a different file format, but since you're only supposed to view it through GW's website, it's not like it makes a difference.
You can highlight and copy text to easily beat someone in an online argument, though. Like this:
The Warhammer Vault exists to preserve the rich lore and background of Warhammer 40,000 and Warhammer Age of Sigmar. As such, outdated game scenarios and unit rules have been removed from this publication.
Straight from the revised edition of Codex:Armageddon. What a mission statement!
AllSeeingSkink wrote: I'm a bit confused about the miniatures, looking at the terms on the website, if someone hasn't been subscribed in year 1, if you start an annual subscription you will be able to get the model 22 days after starting the subscription? But it sounds like people are already ordering it?
I assume GW's IT people aren't much more tech savvy than me and it's some sort of glitch. My subscription renewed during the night, so I only got to check in the morning after a few hours. At the time I could click the order button to take me to the relevant online store pages, but not add the models to the basket with a note from when I'd be able to order instead. I just checked the subscription tab on my account and now the buttons that take me to the respective store pages are replaced with the text informing me that I can purchase them from September 18 onward.
It's best to assume that the middle of September date that was advertised is what GW actually had in mind and anything else is just technical issues that may or may not get fixed in due time.
Damn yeah I had both the year 2 items in my cart but must have forgot to checkout - they are both now no longer available to me until "9/18". Which sucks.
What format are vault books in? Is it something I can download and view on a different (offline) device, or only through some viewer on the website?
Weirdly there is significantly better DRM on the vault books than there are on the animations (which don't really have any protection at all other than obfuscating the URL of the file on the CDN a bit).
They use Adobe Document Reader. They don't work offline and the client is miserable to read on to be honest. It's not even skinned, it looks like a corporate PDF reader. It's really, really the weakest part of the service despite the content selection being decent.
(The DRM is still not very good, but you would actually have to write some code to get around it unlike the videos.)
Hmm, last day to decide whether or not I really want the terminator and voucher for is it 50? quid. That would make it the most expensive tiny model I have ever bought. But I would love it.
Or just wait for Grotsnik to decide to sell it to me.
The Phazer wrote: They use Adobe Document Reader. They don't work offline and the client is miserable to read on to be honest. It's not even skinned, it looks like a corporate PDF reader. It's really, really the weakest part of the service despite the content selection being decent.
*laughs from the deck of his brig*
Air on the high seas is good for the lungs, and I've never seen a shipment from this so called "Vault" that didn't arrive on time.
The_Real_Chris wrote: Hmm, last day to decide whether or not I really want the terminator and voucher for is it 50? quid. That would make it the most expensive tiny model I have ever bought. But I would love it.
Don't forget you can also just sub monthly and let it tick over. Granted the costs aren't going to be less and you have to wait till next year to get the model, but it might mean the difference between a lump sum cost now and spreading it out. I know my plans for getting early were scuppered because FW is putting some Eldar models out of production so I caved and got one of each
Ah well, I signed up. GW won me over with a model of a 25 year old white dwarf cover for an army I don't even collect, lol, how easily bought I was.
Dunno if I'll bother buying the Chaos Sorceress lady, maybe, probably not.
It did give me a slight worry when I logged in and said I couldn't order the model until August 2023! But after a few minutes the page refreshed and now says I can order it 21/09/2022.
AllSeeingSkink wrote: Ah well, I signed up. GW won me over with a model of a 25 year old white dwarf cover for an army I don't even collect, lol, how easily bought I was.
Dunno if I'll bother buying the Chaos Sorceress lady, maybe, probably not.
Yeah that won me over too. That terminator was the cover of the very first WD issue I bought. Damn you nostalgia.
Between the renewal discount and spending the voucher on paint with free shipping it works out at a little over £1/month for the digital stuff.
The_Real_Chris wrote: Hmm, last day to decide whether or not I really want the terminator and voucher for is it 50? quid. That would make it the most expensive tiny model I have ever bought. But I would love it.
Don't forget you can also just sub monthly and let it tick over. Granted the costs aren't going to be less and you have to wait till next year to get the model, but it might mean the difference between a lump sum cost now and spreading it out. I know my plans for getting early were scuppered because FW is putting some Eldar models out of production so I caved and got one of each
I didn't check other locations, but here in Oz it's 20% cheaper to go for the annual subscription.
But I didn't think it mattered when you started the subscription, as long as it was in the first year you'd get access to the model? Or am I misunderstanding how this all works? I thought if you subbed before the 25/08/2022 you'd get access to the year 1 models, but you'd have to be subscribed for a year before you could get access to the year 2 models or something like that.
Maybe I'm wrong, I found the terms and conditions quite confusing.
Quick PSA: don't order your Year 2 model now unless you absolutely need it right away. We also get a £10 voucher to spend in October and if you use it on something less than £30 you can use the free model to also get yourself free shipping despite the order being under twenty quid.
BrookM wrote: Bit out of the loop, I thought they weren't sent out until later in September, but just got word that my Terminator is on its way to me, yay!
Yeah, got a shipping notification last night and UPS says it'll be here tomorrow.
AllSeeingSkink wrote: Dunno if I'll bother buying the Chaos Sorceress lady, maybe, probably not.
Nobody buys the Sorceress. She's a freebie that comes with the Familiars you actually want to buy.
I do. She's the only thing I want out of the whole mass of Warhammer+ models.
She's dripping with character and gave me a fair few ideas for RPG characters.
Shakalooloo wrote: The Chaos Sorcerer has copyright 2020 on her box, and 2019 on her sprue! I wonder if she was intended to be released earlier for some other promotion?
There's a very old rumour engine pic for this model from around early 2020, so yeah it has definitely been around for a while.
I wonder if it was originally designed as a store anniversary / event model and then covid disrupted that by closing everywhere.
Shakalooloo wrote: The Chaos Sorcerer has copyright 2020 on her box, and 2019 on her sprue! I wonder if she was intended to be released earlier for some other promotion?
There's a very old rumour engine pic for this model from around early 2020, so yeah it has definitely been around for a while.
I wonder if it was originally designed as a store anniversary / event model and then covid disrupted that by closing everywhere.
Like as the AoS partner to the Carl Weather Catachan, going on the dates.
AllSeeingSkink wrote: I assume you can only get 1 Terminator with a subscription, no option to buy a 2nd?
Yeah that's right they're limited to 1. Now that I've claimed one the website won't let me order another assassin, but I can still buy the AOS Ork guy.
Yeah some people can't order until the middle of the month, I'm the same. Typical gw and their dog turd business model. I'm not desperate for the model, I have plenty to paint at the moment, it's just the inconsistency.
wow, thats pretty big. Almost pushes him into unusable territory in game given size vs equivalents. Not that you *can't* use him, just that the scale disparity will look off if you care about that sort of thing.
chaos0xomega wrote: wow, thats pretty big. Almost pushes him into unusable territory in game given size vs equivalents. Not that you *can't* use him, just that the scale disparity will look off if you care about that sort of thing.
He's Chaos. He's a Champion.
Maybe his 'gifts' are changing him beyond his more common Terminstor brothers?
chaos0xomega wrote: wow, thats pretty big. Almost pushes him into unusable territory in game given size vs equivalents. Not that you *can't* use him, just that the scale disparity will look off if you care about that sort of thing.
Sort of the issue I've run into with my Abaddon conversion. He's a chaos sorcerer, but he's just so huge. If you trim his loincloth down slightly, Abby can fit on a normal terminator base, but it's still such a noticeable difference its awkward
If you sub monthly you have to wait until the last month of the 12 month period to get your model. If you sub annually you should be able to make your choice and buy the other model.
You have to make sure you're signed into your Warhammer Account for it to check your status
I just checked over the weekend and the voucher Ts&Cs says it will be delivered by e-mail “on or before Friday 7th October”, so they should be arriving in your inbox sometime this week.
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Overread wrote: Try logging into your Warhammer account again. Sometimes it shows you logged in when the system doesn't kind of think you are
Yes, it should appear on your My Warhammer account.
Picked up my year 2 model (Terminator) the other week and the store guy was saying that the early ordering was actually a feth up by GW.
Wasn't meant to be orderable, but the stores were told to honor any that had been done, like mine.
They were well jealous as none of them had got an order in.
Ditto, the voucher showed on my account before I redeemed the code. Gonna wait and see what tomorrow's preview has in store in case there's anything cool available before the end of the month.
the whole primaris thing needs to go away marines shouldn't be seven feet terminators 8 Gravis shouldn't just get bulkier with termy helm and be called terminators. The whole primaris thing is dumb if marines can upgrade then they are all primaris now and are thus just marines done.
Does anyone know how he compares to the newer (2019?) chaos terminators? I assume it's closer.
He should be a bit taller than them, here's a video and the model is the same height as gravis primaries (very end of the video)
GiToRaZor wrote: So, did any of you get the voucher code yet? My inbox only received the regular marketing stuff
I haven’t got my code, but I still cannot order the mini ether so I still think they having issues.
What day did you sign up? The model becomes available around 20 days after signing up.
I haven't got my code, but I signed up on what I believe was the last day and close to the end of the day, so maybe I missed out if there was something to do with different time zones. EDIT: Wait, no, I do have my code, received it about an hour ago, it just didn't go to my main inbox.
Voucher code received today and, as of Wednesday 5 October I was free to order both the Terminator and the Sorcerer.
Is there a time limit for ordering the Terminator and Sorcerer? Mine's available now, but I was going to order it alongside some stuff that's not in stock.
Which is a point. I need to be ordering my Sorceror, and if I’ve not left it to late Boss Orc thing. Both grant free shipping and all, so definitely adding the Levi Dakka to that order.
GiToRaZor wrote: So, did any of you get the voucher code yet? My inbox only received the regular marketing stuff
I haven’t got my code, but I still cannot order the mini ether so I still think they having issues.
What day did you sign up? The model becomes available around 20 days after signing up.
I haven't got my code, but I signed up on what I believe was the last day and close to the end of the day, so maybe I missed out if there was something to do with different time zones. EDIT: Wait, no, I do have my code, received it about an hour ago, it just didn't go to my main inbox.
I sign up about a week after it started ;( maybe I got my code now !
But yea, still no second mini even on yearly sub. They said to wait. But it’s a bit annoying.
When I first went to the webstore, it didn’t offer the mini. Logging into the W+ site, selecting the one I wanted there, and logging in/out of the webstore let me add it for free into my cart.
Voucher cashed in, and the special terminator guy and some 30k plastic heavy weapons are on the way.
Voucher code received today and, as of Wednesday 5 October I was free to order both the Terminator and the Sorcerer.
Is there a time limit for ordering the Terminator and Sorcerer? Mine's available now, but I was going to order it alongside some stuff that's not in stock.
Voucher code received today and, as of Wednesday 5 October I was free to order both the Terminator and the Sorcerer.
Is there a time limit for ordering the Terminator and Sorcerer? Mine's available now, but I was going to order it alongside some stuff that's not in stock.
FWIW I still have the option to buy the other year 1 model (I already have the free one), so I assume availability is just based on remaining stock. They'll probably keep that topped up at least until the start of year 3.
I just watched the first episode of the new season of AoD and have to admit. They really improved on the critique from the first season. The episode is longer and actually has a story arc feel to it, the sound effects are a lot better and no longer come across hollow. The music is good.
Facial animation can still be improved and the general animation is still a bit wonky, static and drawn out. Some of the dialogue especially the one on the gun deck that is exploding, while everyone seems to have 5pm tea time...lets just say they could learn a bit from drama school there. But overall, they are getting somewhere finally. I'd say 6/10. Not perfect, but not attrociously bad as the last season either.
Let's hope it doesn't take them another 2 months until the next episode.
I really liked this weeks new video! Captured the dark gritty feel and the longer full story experience I think worked great for telling a whole story not part of one. It felt really on-point and improved - sound, music, animation, voice sync - all improved over the first season.
A solid quality production.
I also love how the lore works well in these, seeing the gunnery crew pulling the munitions into the bays by rope not by machine; seeing the grim resolve of characters etc.. It all just feels wonderfully on point for the setting and lore.
sad that it took so long for a new episode to air after year two started 3 weeks ago. this episode was fantastic. it felt like 3 or 4 episodes, compared to last year's lengths. i'd give this a solid 10/10 on the youtube fan film scale
Animation quality is way on the up, more frames!! The colour choices for the Tyranids were awesome!
There is only one bad part
Spoiler:
I was so ready for a Lictor leaping in to "save the day" against the commissar and then an epic lictor VS Commissar battle!
Really enjoyable episode.
Spoiler:
I don’t think how they dealt with the commissar in the end was bad when you realise what’s actually going on. It makes a lot more sense.
I actually watched it again just now, and everything from the very beginning is very ominous knowing the truth
Naw, I'm pretty sure most fans would have caught on fairly fast that something was amiss and the potential nature of that at various points. For an existing fan, familiar with the material its more about setting it happen and also finding out how it unfolds (eg who knew, who didn't know etc....).
It might have been moved or delayed; but the teaser really is a teaser and shows very little so it could still be in there and just not being shown.
All in all I'm excited and hopeful that we get a lot more AoS stuff appearing
Salamanders and Ultramarines in one battle (sigh). I hate that the OG nine seem to be only chapters in existence in all stories in the setting, and it's even worse in M42 because whole point of Ultima Founding was to add a big number of new, fresh chapters to the story. Why not Krakens or Black Vipers if you really need Salamander-ish chapter? Not only both are more interesting, but a big opportunity to flesh them out was wasted
Also not a fan of comical brick weapons from tabletop. They resized them for the Sister, why not SM too? They really should be half the size they are in this animation going by canon dimensions...
Irbis wrote: Salamanders and Ultramarines in one battle (sigh). I hate that the OG nine seem to be only chapters in existence in all stories in the setting, and it's even worse in M42 because whole point of Ultima Founding was to add a big number of new, fresh chapters to the story. Why not Krakens or Black Vipers if you really need Salamander-ish chapter? Not only both are more interesting, but a big opportunity to flesh them out was wasted
Also not a fan of comical brick weapons from tabletop. They resized them for the Sister, why not SM too? They really should be half the size they are in this animation going by canon dimensions...
… aaaaand here comes Irbis to suck all the joy out of the room.
It's clearly about the Sororitas and her guard chum, and yet the WHC site still has blurb on the frontpage describing it as "Space Marines clash with Necrons"!
Gert wrote: Kind of defeats the purpose of having a non-Human POV if you can't understand it.
I think that's just it; I liked them better when they didn't have a POV.
Probably because I'm nostalgic for their 2nd Edition incarnation.
You're not alone in that. I'm all for getting more Sisters action, but I'm not sure I'm actually looking forward to this animation because of the Tomb Kings in space. It'll just be more Saturday morning cartoon villainy like anything Necron from the past fifteen years, and that just isn't for me.
Gert wrote: Kind of defeats the purpose of having a non-Human POV if you can't understand it.
I think that's just it; I liked them better when they didn't have a POV.
Probably because I'm nostalgic for their 2nd Edition incarnation.
When their entire concept boiled down to, "The Terminator, but with less personality"?
I'm also not a huge fan of them just being Tomb Kings in Space (TM), but we really don't need more than one army without a personality (the other being Tyranids).
Gert wrote: Kind of defeats the purpose of having a non-Human POV if you can't understand it.
I think that's just it; I liked them better when they didn't have a POV.
Probably because I'm nostalgic for their 2nd Edition incarnation.
When their entire concept boiled down to, "The Terminator, but with less personality"?
I'm also not a huge fan of them just being Tomb Kings in Space (TM), but we really don't need more than one army without a personality (the other being Tyranids).
Just like the Terminator, the OG Necrons had absolutely no personality, but a really strong presence nonetheless. That being said, even if that presence was strong, it pretty obviously is a one-trick pony, and grew old very fast in the same vein as the Terminator franchise. There's only a handfull of stories you can tell with that concept, and they've been told. Necrons with personality are more suited for a wider range of narratives, and you can have the old Killbots as subfaction or corrupted dinasty anyway if you want to.
If Old-Crons were a one trick pony, what is there to say about Nids, or Dark Eldar?
I always thought the cosmic horror of the C'tan was more interesting from a setting perspective that funny robot Trazyn. Chaos and Nids are familiar in their terror, the C'tan were alien in a very Lovecraftian, uncaring way.
Gert wrote: Kind of defeats the purpose of having a non-Human POV if you can't understand it.
I think that's just it; I liked them better when they didn't have a POV.
Probably because I'm nostalgic for their 2nd Edition incarnation.
You're not alone in that. I'm all for getting more Sisters action, but I'm not sure I'm actually looking forward to this animation because of the Tomb Kings in space. It'll just be more Saturday morning cartoon villainy like anything Necron from the past fifteen years, and that just isn't for me.
Players wanted 40k be saturday cartoon, they got it
His Master's Voice wrote: If Old-Crons were a one trick pony, what is there to say about Nids, or Dark Eldar?
I always thought the cosmic horror of the C'tan was more interesting from a setting perspective that funny robot Trazyn. Chaos and Nids are familiar in their terror, the C'tan were alien in a very Lovecraftian, uncaring way.
Oh, i personally liked the lovecraftian murderbots, but GW clearly wasn't, and wasn't smart enough to write them anyhow.
Also Tyranids kinda had that whole Mysterious thing we can't understand bit going on and Necrons were getting in on their turf!
Personally I don't see Necron lore so much as changing as evolving for the most part. I know their relationship with the C'Tan changed in the lore, but otherwise its almost like a natural evolution of their status. Starting off with a few tombs awakening and almost running on auto-pilot. Killing and destroying and awakening others, but even the lords were mostly just Terminators in all but name.
Then we steadily saw them awakening properly; greater lords and Tombs that were less damaged awakening; resulting in Necrons who had a shred of personality.
They are 100% still murderous killing machines who are half insane. They still hold dinner parties for their foes when their foes have no concept of what is going on and when the necrons don't even eat at the dinner party!
If anything it adds layers to the sinister nature of them because you can sort of just understand them, and yet not because they are partly deluded; or if they aren't they are driven mad by their condition.
It also allows them to have stories about them. Something that Tyranids don't really have and its a huge shame they don't; but without a "voice" of their own you need a really talented author to write stories about Tyranids that don't just feel like a battle summary.
Now don't get me wrong I love Tyranids and I don't want them to change, but their position story wise is a bit weak in that whilst they have huge victories and have done some massive things; they don't really have heroes or characters or character or agents or elements for people to latch onto. Even the Swarm Lord is kind of a "ok so everyone big and powerful goes to fight him one on one and most of them manage to kill him which - doesn't change Tyranid lore one bit and shows how super hard those characters are.
Necrons get to have characters; they get to have stories that are more than just "Murder bot murder". They have intelligent command of vast technologies and powers beyond the other races; they have a vision that extends beyond the other races; they have desires or at least the vestiges of desires.
But can you imagine how much cooler it would have been if they'd had this ready when the Pariah Nexus stuff was still a thing in regular 40k, rather than a year and a half after the fact?
I dig it.
One of my first reactions was 'how is that sister not shooting the guardsman for heresy?' but I remembered a few things.
Summary executions are the job of commissars and higher ranking officers, Inquisitors and others that carry the weight of judge, jury, and executioner, and a regular sister wouldn't necessarily have that authority in a larger multi-force war. It'd be her job to -report- it, definitely.
She likely needs all the help she can get to get through whatever struggle they're facing and survive.
She possibly sees (and it makes narrative sense) for the guardsman to be a trial of faith, the devil on the sororitas' shoulder.
The Guardswoman also helps answer a lot of a potentially new audience's questions: where are the lines between faith, duty, and preservation of life? It shows a few great things, like the Imperium not being so monolithic, that guardsmen aren't hyper-indoctrinated like Sisters or Marines are and have much more human opinions and emotions.
They put some serious effort into this, and while hobbyists are looking forward to Arks of Omen, I think the timing of this is fine. Should the Harry Potter movies come out at the same time as the books? It's pretty common everywhere else that source material gets adapted to animation and film well after that source is written.
It's also important to note that the Sisters and Marines know about Chaos. Imperial Guardsmen might have very little to no understanding about Chaos or Xenos until they end up in combat situations and even then there's a vast difference between "Chaos Cultists like to kill people and worship demons" to actually seeing demons or psy powers and such.
A guardsman having a crisis of faith and having to work through it is very lore appropriate.
And yep just because you can execute almost anyone lower ranking for heresy, doesn't mean you should every time. Indeed sometimes commissars who too free with executions can end up rather dead when their troops, maybe don't kill them, but certainly doing fight their best to protect them. The key with a grim dark setting is to realise that the dark bits CAN happen and DO happen, but that they do not happen every single time without fail and perfectly. Otherwise it stops being a grim setting and becomes more of a weekend cartoon with over-the-top elements.
Overread wrote: And yep just because you can execute almost anyone lower ranking for heresy, doesn't mean you should every time. Indeed sometimes commissars who too free with executions can end up rather dead when their troops, maybe don't kill them, but certainly doing fight their best to protect them.
A single guard speaking heresy has no threat of spreading it to others, so let them fight alongside you to kill the enemy, thenshoot them in the face morally correct them once the physical danger is over.
Plus lets not forget some Sisters fall - heck even Marines can fall!
Maybe these are the whispers that leads her down a path of potential corruption and her fall. Or she'll recover and restore her faith. Maybe she'll restore the guardsman's faith too.
Anyone else wondering if Guilliman might actually try to get rid of the whole 'faith' thing? After all, the Emperor never wanted to be worshipped as a god, and Guilliman would know that.
To be fair for the Third Edition times, there are the “Severed” Tomb Worlds where the inhabitants have become mindless robot zombies controlled by the world’s computer or C’tan and it freaks out even the Necrons with with personalities.
He’s also said in the lore that basically it is what it is.
A necessary part of he Imperium now.
He stopped short of saying he believes it’s all true. But he did speak to the Emperor after all. So he knows..
Manfred von Drakken wrote: Anyone else wondering if Guilliman might actually try to get rid of the whole 'faith' thing? After all, the Emperor never wanted to be worshipped as a god, and Guilliman would know that.
When faith conveniently turned out to be the only thing able to counter the effect of the Pariah Nexus, Guilliman probably took the pragmatic approach. Sure was lucky for the Ecclsiarchy that the Necrons chose that moment to unleash a weapon that required their particular expertise!
You can't just stop Imperial Faith. In some ways its the only thing holding the Imperium together as a single operating functional body of humanity.
Meanwhile at the top end there is a LOT of power behind that faith. You can't just sweep it under the carpet in one go. Remember in this setting the Faith is very tightly bound to the military on many levels even to having their own women at arms (Sisters of Battle).
If you declared the faith in the Emperor null and void you're trying to go against 10 Thousand years of training and indoctrination, power bodies and more.
He might be almost second to the Emperor in theory, but don't forget his brothers fell to darkness and him denying the divinity of the Emperor would be just the kind of thing a fallen one would say.
He has to play within the politics of the age he is in now. To do otherwise would run the risk of causing the Imperium to suffer a second civil war
But can you imagine how much cooler it would have been if they'd had this ready when the Pariah Nexus stuff was still a thing in regular 40k, rather than a year and a half after the fact?
A lot of the stuff with WH+ was down to Covid it seems. The project overall was underestimated in its workload and then when office work became unviable it threw more problems on top.
Just classic mismanagement of a project TBH. Obviously, Covid isn't something the company could plan for in a serious way but apparently shows like BatRep especially were just "How hard can it be?" and then it turned out that it was in fact, not simple.