How do!

So we’re not yet into 2023, but in terms of Heresy reveals and releases we might as well be.

And this is a thread for posting your Wishlist of kits to cross the Rubicon Plasticarus. To set arguable expectations, let’s first consider what we’ve received in Heresy’s first 8 months as a non-specialist game.

1. Big old honking boxed set. Not cheap, but for what you get pretty terrific value. The next entires will of course be parting out that box, but they still count. And I’ll be counting each weapon upgrade as a separate release, as they’re still separate kits.

2. Plastic Character 1

3. Plastic Character 2

4. MkVI Tactical Marines

5. Landraider Spartan

6. Contemptor Dreadnought

7. Leviathan Dreadnought with CCW

8. Leviathan Dreadnought with Ranged Weapons

9. Deimos Rhino

10. Deimos Predator Assault Tank

11. Deimos Predator Support Tank

12. Sicaran

13. Scorpius

14. Heavy Bolter/Missile Launcher upgrade

15. Las/Volk/Auto upgrade

16. Plasma/Melta/Heavy Flamer upgrade

17. Special Weapon Upgrade

18. Repackaging of existing kits in double contents.

19. Weapon sprues for the different Dreadnoughts

20. Revealed but not yet released, the Typhon.

So with my peculiar hair splitting (look it’s my thread, k?) that’s 20 or so releases over….I think 8 months? Might be 7? And it’s only counting plastic kits.

I suspect we’ll see roughly 1 release per month in plastic, averaged out, at a minimum. And there’s a lot of stuff folk will be wanting updated, let alone updated into plastic.

I want to see….

1. Jetbikes

2. The remaining shared Troop options properly represented. Same way as the MkVI Tacticals will do for me. Core box of 20 for super bog standard, then separate upgrade sets for Breachers, Destroyers etc. maybe with a Jump Pack Expansion

3. Ceberus. Go on, round out the triumvate of Spartan Chassis Tanks,

4. Sicaran variants. Separate kits, not separately sold upgrades for the core kit

5. Anything left that uses the Deimos pattern. Again as separate kits, not upgrade sprues. 9.

Breachers. This is my #1 want.

Assault marines.

Apothecaries

Assorted HQs. A lot of the consuls have specialist bits and bobs for their wargear that are not easy to source for kitbashing. I’d love to see a multi-part build-a-character box that would make a bunch of different ones.

Plastic Castellax & Thallax, followed by Termite, Krios & Triaros/Karacnos.

 Nevelon wrote:
Breachers. This is my #1 want.

Assault marines.

Apothecaries

Assorted HQs. A lot of the consuls have specialist bits and bobs for their wargear that are not easy to source for kitbashing. I’d love to see a multi-part build-a-character box that would make a bunch of different ones.

On the last bit, perhaps a Command Squad boxed set, which includes a Consular Sprue? Say 5 Bodies, basic bits for a Command Squad, then more exotic bits on a separate sprue?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:

Assorted HQs. A lot of the consuls have specialist bits and bobs for their wargear that are not easy to source for kitbashing. I’d love to see a multi-part build-a-character box that would make a bunch of different ones.

On the last bit, perhaps a Command Squad boxed set, which includes a Consular Sprue? Say 5 Bodies, basic bits for a Command Squad, then more exotic bits on a separate sprue?

There are a lot of ways they could do it. The command squad is a great one. What I don’t want to see is a mono-pose clampack, with just a single sculpt.

I feel it’s a commercially viable way for GW to do it. Two, maybe three sprues, repeat sales to individual gamers.

Or even do the Command Squad like the Mk VI Tactical Squad, and offer Consular Sprues as separate purchases. Yes that would be expensive for us, but as with all things Heresy, I suspect the truth will be “but still cheaper than buying from FW”.


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Hell. Just throw in the basic MkVI sprue for the bodies, and let the Upgrades do the heavy lifting?

Melee duders.

Bikes and jetbikes. Would be neat if they did a shared sprue of riders in different armour marks that they could throw in a box of bikes or jetbikes.

upscaled MKII

Breachers (we know this is coming as the options changed for the unit)

Assault marines (MKIV or MKII, MKVI most likely)

Close combat weapons sprue like the heavy/specials

Sabre

Jetbikes

Command squad

Javelin

Land speeders

Seekers upgrade sprue

Ok... Fast attack is my favourite slot in HH

Breachers, Apothecaries, Assault Marines, Tech Marines

Support characters(Apoth, Techmarine) Proteus speeders, JUMPPACKS!!!!!, Breachers & a consul kit.

My wish list is:

Assault troops / Breachers
Jetbikes
Speeder
More plastic characters, preferably customisable

Then I’d like them to focus on non-Marine factions a bit.

Instead, I suspect we will get a Vindicator.

Is this a wishlist or release speculation thread?

If speculation, we should see:
• Jetbikes
• Bikes
• Assault marines
• Vindicator
• more Sicaran variants

If wishlist, I hope we see
• Dreadclaw & Kharybdis Assault Claw
• Deathstorm Drop Pod
• Land Speeder Proteus
• Termite
• Storm Eagle / Fire Raptor dualkit
• Mechanicum Battle Automata

Bit of both I guess.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Bit of both I guess.

One kind of list usually becomes the other anyway…

I have 3 categories:

1, the rumors, jetbikes and melee.

2, personal wishes for marines, Combiweapon and Terminator melee weapons. Apothecaries and a command squad sprue.

3, personal wishes for general other armies and factions:
Plastic boxes for automata for Mechanicum.
Plastic boxes for Militia / SA forces. Both of these boxes should be atleast 20 strong.

Both, are needed to make these forces actually visible on the table in a common fashion. especially SA and Militia will require significant support in regards to models / box.

Oh and rules PDF's

Assault Marines, bikes and jetbikes are top for me. In terms of Legion-specific units, I'd love to see the Sons of Horus get a Luperci unit so I could run a corrupted SoH detachment along with my Word Bearers.

Adding the Deredeo to my Wishlist.

Fury of the Ancients compels you!

weapon and equipment upgrades designed for light conversion work - e.g. complete weapon designed to have the grip cut off to swap with a marine hand thats had its weapon cut off

specifically so you do not need a while new arm so the weapons can be used for existing characters

combi-weapons, hand flamers, some of the other stuff designed to help convert existing characters

flesh out the rest of the basic list options with kits, the idea of a "command" box you may want a few of is very good - bits for standard bearers but all the models with at least two basic builds - the Necromunda kits are a good template for this, basic body is essentially one pose but then options on arms, heads, extra equipment bits designed to fit on and make them into the various specialists

I want the following:
Despoilers/Assault squad/Destroyers
Weapon Platform (heavy bolter array, quad launcher)
Command Squad Frame (standard, champion, could include some arms for tech marines and apothecaries)

Assaul marines with jumppack

Mark 2 tactical

Mark 2 assault marines

Breachers

Plastic recon marines

Plastic Storm Eagle

Something new. Maybe a new tank or terminator unit.

Have we considered the option that new infantry is nowhere to be seen because there's another big box coming?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Have we considered the option that new infantry is nowhere to be seen because there's another big box coming?

its possible, certainly possible, a second big box launching basically 'assault' marine types, still Mk VI, but now with chainsword arms, pistols, with/without jump packs so once more the curious battle cry "Equipped with Jump packs" can ring out

throw in a jump equipped character, combine with some heavier defensive models and you have a boxed set based on one faction launching an assault upon another

Heck I'd buy it

Dominus rules pdf via Warhammer Community, which should have been included in the Libre Mechanicum book.

A Zone Mortalis themed starter set for those who prefer smaller games.

Kill Team: The Horus Heresy could be a thing.

1: Xenos books.

2: Any Heresy Mechanicum units.

3: Non-bolter-Tactical Troops.

4: Legion-specific unit conversion sprues that plug into existing kits.

Can I be a spoilsport knobber?

Much as my pocket and imagination would love to unite in glorious harmony over plastic Mechanicum?

I feel that’s more viable for a 2024 Wishlist?

 AnomanderRake wrote:
1: Xenos books.

SamusDrake wrote:
Dominus rules pdf via Warhammer Community, which should have been included in the Libre Mechanicum book.

A Zone Mortalis themed starter set for those who prefer smaller games.

Kill Team: The Horus Heresy could be a thing.

Unofficially, Kill Team: Horus Heresy is already a thing:
https://ossifiedsite.wordpress.com/

(Old news already but in case you missed it)

 tauist wrote:


Unofficially, Kill Team: Horus Heresy is already a thing:
https://ossifiedsite.wordpress.com/

(Old news already but in case you missed it)

It deserves a mention, all the same. I'm excited at the possibility of an update for Honour & Blood( the Knight expansion for AT models ), as that would probably push me into the new edition of Kill Team.

Whilst flicking through my Libers, I noticed that the illustrations in each Legion’s section so far include all the tank and Dreadnought released in plastic.

Give they also include the Cerebrus and both Vindicator loads out? I’d say they’re pretty much a given at this time.

feth plastic. Give Luther and Forrix.

Generic plastic primarch kit.

54mm tall dude in ornate armor, choice of a 'good' straight sword, or 'evil' spikey axe. Bald head or helmet head. Choice of a rock or dead body to put one foot on. Includes 5 or 6 different chapter shoulder pads and one blank one.

I'm dead serious. It would sell.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Generic plastic primarch kit.

54mm tall dude in ornate armor, choice of a 'good' straight sword, or 'evil' spikey axe. Bald head or helmet head. Choice of a rock or dead body to put one foot on. Includes 5 or 6 different chapter shoulder pads and one blank one.

I'm dead serious. It would sell.

a bit like the old marine captain kit, designed to build a captain and also have all the various optional bits you probably only want one or two of in an army

The Militia (and by extension Daemon) lists. Please GW, my poor boys are gathering dust.

Plastic Mechanicus, they are just SO much better than the Adeptus Mech line.

 ProfSrlojohn wrote:
The Militia (and by extension Daemon) lists. Please GW, my poor boys are gathering dust.

This. The Esoterist and Diabolist are less than useful without Ruinstorm to actually summon.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Generic plastic primarch kit.

54mm tall dude in ornate armor, choice of a 'good' straight sword, or 'evil' spikey axe. Bald head or helmet head. Choice of a rock or dead body to put one foot on. Includes 5 or 6 different chapter shoulder pads and one blank one.

It's a nice idea, but I suspect a lot of HH players would feel that it wasn't 'historically accurate' enough. A generic Praetor, however, along the same lines - that would be very popular. Of course, GW have moved away from this level of customisation in their character models.

Now the Jetbikes are all but confirmed, the need for Assault Infantry is a priority. Especially with Jump Packs, so folk can play Fast Lists.

We can all cross a plastic jetbike kit off our wish lists, now that the first image has surfaced. The only question is whether it's a Mk IV or Mk VI rider. The next question is whether the character models that are coming are resin or plastic. This might be the beginning of a range of plastic Consuls - there is a Librarian and Vigilator, both of which could be plastic with some optional parts so they can be built as loyalist or traitor. It's probably too much to expect, however.

I’m torn.

Sure we can look back at the FW range, and suspect resin. Particularly given the half in, half out approach of Specialist Games.

But we do have 6 plastic characters already, 4 of which are named characters. And, Horus Heresy has its own top billing on the main website. So like it’s stablemates 40K and AoS, All Plastic for units may very well be the norm.

Not unless it gets far more popular than it is.
I'd also argue that the characters in plastic bit is a bit disingenuous. Two were made for a boxed game almost 6 years ago now, two are the generic character models for starting the game, and the other two were released as part of the Black Library celebration. There's been more characters released by FW in the new edition in resin than plastic characters by GW.
It doesn't actually set a precedent.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Generic plastic primarch kit.

54mm tall dude in ornate armor, choice of a 'good' straight sword, or 'evil' spikey axe. Bald head or helmet head. Choice of a rock or dead body to put one foot on. Includes 5 or 6 different chapter shoulder pads and one blank one.

I'm dead serious. It would sell.

What's the point of this ? There are only ever been 20 primarchs, and only 18 are playable and we already have dedicated models for them. "Generic primarchs" ? That's an oxymoron

 godardc wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Generic plastic primarch kit.

54mm tall dude in ornate armor, choice of a 'good' straight sword, or 'evil' spikey axe. Bald head or helmet head. Choice of a rock or dead body to put one foot on. Includes 5 or 6 different chapter shoulder pads and one blank one.

I'm dead serious. It would sell.

What's the point of this ? There are only ever been 20 primarchs, and only 18 are playable and we already have dedicated models for them. "Generic primarchs" ? That's an oxymoron

It's a bit of a trolling, because honestly I don't think the 18 (19? 20? 21?) will ever get plastic models (and if they did I doubt they'd show any savings over the resin ones) so I think one 'generic' primarch would be hysterical.

 Gert wrote:
Not unless it gets far more popular than it is.
I'd also argue that the characters in plastic bit is a bit disingenuous. Two were made for a boxed game almost 6 years ago now, two are the generic character models for starting the game, and the other two were released as part of the Black Library celebration. There's been more characters released by FW in the new edition in resin than plastic characters by GW.
It doesn't actually set a precedent.

Sorry to jump on the whole of this post, but what makes people claim the game needs to get more popular?

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Plastic Mechanicus, they are just SO much better than the Adeptus Mech line.

Yes please! I always thought Sicarans were the only decent looking 40K Admech models (Ok, I do like Kastelans too). 30K AdMech on the other hand..

Specifically as a response to this:

So like it’s stablemates 40K and AoS, All Plastic for units may very well be the norm.

HH is not popular enough and will never be popular enough to be an all-plastic release system. Don't get me wrong, I love HH but I'm also very realistic about what is coming for the game.
To break away from FW entirely, HH would have to usurp one of the big ones similar to how LotR once usurped WHFB before the movie bubble burst. There would have to be a significant return on the investment for it to be worth it for GW and I don't see that happening. Leaving extras like Consuls and Legion specifics, as well as "side" armies like Mechanicum and Custodes to FW means that the required returns aren't as vicious as they are for mainline GW products.

How are you quantifying it’s popularity though?

GW don’t, and have never, broken down their annual report by game system. And we’ve not had a 6m report including Heresy fully? The next is due 10 Jan, checking their Investor Relations website.

Because it doesn't have the broad appeal that AoS and 40k do.
In 40k there are currently 22 main armies, 11 Space Marine supplements, and numerous additional units/factions for various armies. In AoS there are 24 armies and 4 Grand Alliances which allow for further army-building shenanigans. HH has 6 armies, with the main army of the game having 18 supplement-level sub-armies, however, all but one of these armies are human. That doesn't appeal to people who want to play non-humans.
I mean just look back at the lengthy discussions had on this board where people said they didn't care about HH because it didn't have any Xenos factions and they would only play it if there were Xenos factions, which in turn got lots of HH people saying "There are no Xenos, that's the point".
And that's fine. Not every game needs to appeal to every single customer and while I obviously can't say exactly how popular HH is outside of my own local area, I can say with some certainty that it won't be popular enough to break away from FW entirely.

In order
Plastic Breachers
Plastic Dispoilers
Plastic Jump packs
Plastic Recon
Plastic Destoryers
Plastic Apoths

Personally i just want all the troop choices in plastic before they give us more tanks.

I don't play Heresy yet but, Please God, release a plastic Storm Eagle / Fire Raptor kit.

Required more than anything else in reality.

 Gert wrote:
Because it doesn't have the broad appeal that AoS and 40k do.
In 40k there are currently 22 main armies, 11 Space Marine supplements, and numerous additional units/factions for various armies. In AoS there are 24 armies and 4 Grand Alliances which allow for further army-building shenanigans. HH has 6 armies, with the main army of the game having 18 supplement-level sub-armies, however, all but one of these armies are human. That doesn't appeal to people who want to play non-humans.
I mean just look back at the lengthy discussions had on this board where people said they didn't care about HH because it didn't have any Xenos factions and they would only play it if there were Xenos factions, which in turn got lots of HH people saying "There are no Xenos, that's the point".
And that's fine. Not every game needs to appeal to every single customer and while I obviously can't say exactly how popular HH is outside of my own local area, I can say with some certainty that it won't be popular enough to break away from FW entirely.

Given the alleged preponderance of SM sale’s compared to anything else 40K? I feel you may be working on wonky logic here.

Plus Heresy is hella cool

 Rolsheen wrote:
I don't play Heresy yet but, Please God, release a plastic Storm Eagle / Fire Raptor kit.

Yes please! I normally don't have any problems with resin models, but that's one kit that I'm waiting on a plastic version of before adding it to my army.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Given the alleged preponderance of SM sale’s compared to anything else 40K? I feel you may be working on wonky logic here.

Plus Heresy is hella cool

Again not arguing Heresy isn't cool, far from it. But it's a very restricted system when it comes to army choice and to a degree hobbyist freedom. Yeah, Space Marines sell more than everything else in 40k, but that doesn't mean the rest of the range doesn't exist. The rest of the range gives 40k that edge and I don't think we can say that Xenos factions aren't popular.

I wouldn’t be disappointed if characters remain in resin. But I would be surprised.

If that makes sense?

It makes sense but I'm not sure why you hold that belief when it's been made pretty clear that FW has the reigns for Characters and Legion units. The plastic characters that have been released are the exception to the rule with 2 being 6 years old and tied to a themed box game, 2 being tied to the theme of the Siege of Terra novels for the Black Library Celebration, and the remaining 4 being generic boxset mooks a further 2 of which are also 7 years old. In HH 2 we've had Sedras, Corswain, Lucius, at least 3 sets of themed Praetors, and 4 Assassins from FW to a total of one set of new plastic characters from GW.
In another 3 or 4 years, we might see another plastic Consul model but I would genuinely be surprised if one was in this next wave.
I'm not trying to be a gakhead here but it can't just be me that isn't seeing this as anything but wishful thinking rather than any sort of surety.

Didn’t think you were being awkward or difficult

Guess we’ll just have to wait and see. I’m seriously hoping for plastic characters, because that’s my preferred material to work with.

If you only ever work with plastics, kitbashing and converting is a totally valid option for creating unique HH Characters, in full glorious plastics no less! You only need to create a single miniature right?

The whole GW plastic range for bits is your oyster... I've seen very impressive bashes/conversions of plastic characters on /r 30k almost daily. Stop wishlisting and start operating doc, the surgical unit is waiting

Absolutely this.

I think it's easy to forget that if you're coming from 40k or you're new to the hobby that converting might not be so considered. I'd 100% recommended trawling Instagram and looking at event pictures. The range of things that can be done with just the plastic SM range is staggering.

There are some really nice oversized AoS Stormcast dudes who are perfect for Primarch-converting.

It would be a cool project.

I'd hope for Solar Auxillia in plastic, but more realistic is getting plastic breachers and a Storm Eagle +/- Fire Raptor.

could see a Solar Auxillia kit actually, at least a single kit with a command frame in there, 20 models with a few options - should be less bulky than marines so usable - done with a nod to usability as Imperial Guard too I suspect it could actually be a sensible product

The infantry Tercios being in plastic would definitely lead to further sales of resin tanks and that for them.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The infantry Tercios being in plastic would definitely lead to further sales of resin tanks and that for them.

Yes, quite the same for mechanicum. Make some plastic troops & 1 robot would lead to more resin being shifted.

Imperial Army rules. Not milita Not solar auxilia full on Imperial Army, with all of the toys the imperial guard have in 40K. I'd finally paint up my steel legion in some outlandish colour scheme to use them if they had suitable rules.

If you're wishing for Imperial Army then wish for Necromunda Spiders with their American Football armor and 2000AD design sense!

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
If you're wishing for Imperial Army then wish for Necromunda Spiders.with their Americam Football armor and 2000AD design sense!

YEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

So I think we can expect the Arquitor Chassis to be along before too long. This is based on it having a track size in common with the Sicaran, the Sicaran kit having an unusually separate tread sprue, which even more you usually for Heresy includes excess linkages.

Now if we could just see some Assault Troops.

 Tamereth wrote:
Imperial Army rules. Not milita Not solar auxilia full on Imperial Army, with all of the toys the imperial guard have in 40K. I'd finally paint up my steel legion in some outlandish colour scheme to use them if they had suitable rules.

To be fair, the Solar Auxillia makes up ~25% of the Imperial Army by the start of the Heresy, and constitute the vast majority of the 1st line units.

Militia is third line, so you essentially want rules for the second line stuff and some regiments of renown that are treated as first line.

Imagine a new big box that's more or less Fast Attack vs Heavy Support/Artillery

Jetbikes and Jump Packs vs a gunline of Heavy squads in embiggened Mk3/4 resculpts, Arquitor...

Assault marines/Despoilers.

Half the legions can't really operate properly without them, and I know many people that refuse to get resin or try to convert the current tacticals into assault/despoilers due to static poses or the cost of conversions.

Every tank that comes out makes me bewildered that we haven't gotten assault marines, the major troop option for most legions. My Raven Guard and Word Bearers desperately need them.

I'm going to be a radical and say...

balance patch

beast_gts wrote:
Plastic Castellax & Thallax, followed by Termite, Krios & Triaros/Karacnos.

I'm with Beast up until the vehicles.

I'd like to see Thanatars and Thralls in plastic as well.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm going to be a radical and say...

balance patch

Yeah, as it is, dreadnoughts are way overtuned and could probably use a points update if nothing else.

Other than that, what sorts of balance issues are you seeing?

I'm really hoping we get plastic rapiers.

drbored wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm going to be a radical and say...

balance patch

Yeah, as it is, dreadnoughts are way overtuned and could probably use a points update if nothing else.

Other than that, what sorts of balance issues are you seeing?

I'm leaning heavily to one side trying to carry the rulebooks

while not holding my breath in any way shape or form over it the idea of the rulebooks going to be hole punched for a ring binder would be nice... So I can leave the fluff section at home along with all the legions I'm not using and seriously cut the mass of the thing

oh and finally allowing XV independent characters to get a force weapon would be nice

Have we still to see Legion upgrades?

I’ve entirely lost track of those.

Alpha legion and raven guard haven't been shown yet (very apt for the sneaky Bois)

Maybe they have been shown then.... who would know....


Oooh spooky.

What id love to see

Ruinstorm> Yes being a Word Bearers player I want Ruinstorm I want gribblies from the darkest corners of the minds of mortals quaking in bowel renching fear... Not generic Bloodletters,Plaguebearers,Daemonettes,Horrors and the associated Greater and Exalted Daemons I mean a way of creating the Daemon armies of lesser predators...
Gal Vorbak? in plastic? or an upgrade frame? the old Gal Vorbak resin minatures whilst still looking good are quite limited,
A Word Bearers plastic Praetor?

In more generalized ways

What we know is coming

Previewed were the Cerberus,Scimitar Jetbikes,A Legion recon specialist and what looks like a Sons of Horus styled Isoterist


Id love to also see Sicarian Upgrades, Also a Super Heavy kit of some sort like the Legion Glaive,Fellblade,Falchion,

Infantry upgrades for Jump pack infantry,Destroyers,

Another cheaper boxed set

Contents perhaps

x2 Praetors
x 20 MkVI Marines
x2 Contemptors

Allowing for a small skirmish level starting into the 30k system without having to spend £180 for the bigger set also allow us to pad out our armies maybe a big ask and seeing as 30k is still viewed as a niche in the community maybe not popular as Warhammer 40,000 and Age of Sigmar are still a HUGE selling point for beginners...

BIG BIG BIG ASK

Epic set in the 30k Universe...? well ya know a dude can dream.

I'd like to see infantry upgrades for despoilers/assault marines and breachers first, so people can field all the Line choices more easily.
If they could do them compatible with Mk II-VI, including different arms, that would be awesome but maybe a steep ask.

Other than that I wish for plastic Mk II. FW don't list the Mk ii squads anymore except assault squad so I can hope.

 BalerionTheBlackDread wrote:
What id love to see

...


Id love to also see Sicarian Upgrades, Also a Super Heavy kit of some sort like the Legion Glaive,Fellblade,Falchion,

Infantry upgrades for Jump pack infantry,Destroyers,

Another cheaper boxed set

Contents perhaps

x2 Praetors
x 20 MkVI Marines
x2 Contemptors

...

BIG BIG BIG ASK

Epic set in the 30k Universe...? well ya know a dude can dream.

I'm with you on all of this.

But I see next years' box as including the known and most asked for Core new releases.

30 mk XX marines (mk II is my wish)
Conversion kit for despoilers/assault marines/breachers
3 Scimitars
Cerberus?
2 Consuls

That would allow for a theoretic matchup of

Consul 1 e.g MoS
10 breachers
Cerberus/Typhon

Vs

Consul 2 w Jump pack
20 assault marines/Despoilers
3 Scimitars (w multimeltas)

Though I doubt they would include a LoW in a box set so would probably be something else e.g a Sicaran variant.

Sicaran variant turret sprues and a Sicaran Venator would be Ace.

Epic 30k is great, I play it using using the EpicAU HH ruleset (munitorum.com for army builder). You can do 6 or 8mm, we mix in the newer AI and AT flyers and war engines. Everything is available to 3dprint but if GW would rerelease the ruleset and some infantry/vehicles, or just create it in steps as Titanicus optional expansions, yeah that would attract a lot more players without 3dprint access and be cool. Should happen sooner or later but realistically with 40k 10th and WFB Old World being big projects it's gonna happen after those is my guess.

if I had to guess, the stuff in the new black books is likely on a roadmap for plastic, the stuff outside them isn't (yet)

so a nice future ahead

Plastic versions of the Custodes Dreadnoughts would be nice! Big fan of the Contemptor-Galatus and Contemptor-Achillus.

Been thinking about it, and despite it being a long shot of the highest order, i'd REALLY like to see a plastic MkIV Castra-ferrum dreadnought kit. I know stylistically, you can get a reasonable MkIV mashup by combining both the Venerable and Ironclad dreadnought kits, but it'd be nice to have a dedicated MkIV model (hopefully with all the bells and whistles).

 Snrub wrote:
Been thinking about it, and despite it being a long shot of the highest order, i'd REALLY like to see a plastic MkIV Castra-ferrum dreadnought kit. I know stylistically, you can get a reasonable MkIV mashup by combining both the Venerable and Ironclad dreadnought kits, but it'd be nice to have a dedicated MkIV model (hopefully with all the bells and whistles).

Would be nice for CSM players who don't need fleshy bits on their vehicles too.

Yeah ain't that the truth! Really makes you pine for the old FW versions.

 BalerionTheBlackDread wrote:
What id love to see
Another cheaper boxed set

Contents perhaps

x2 Praetors
x 20 MkVI Marines
x2 Contemptors

Allowing for a small skirmish level starting into the 30k system without having to spend £180 for the bigger set also allow us to pad out our armies.

as someone who is interested in getting started, i'd love a "getting started" set, even if it is basically just half the age of darkness box's miniatures.

There was rumours of a set of 40k/Aos style beginner boxes based around the contents of the AoD box. I'm kinda guessing they might not have been true though, as we'd likely have seen them by now.

My current wishlist:

Assault Marines and Breachers. They have to do both, whether as a combined kit (unlikely) or by producing add-on kits. I see it as something like this:

- basic Assault Marines. I think it's unlikely that these will be anything other than Mk VI
- upgrade set with jump packs and maybe some terrain bits to make flying bases (I hate those spindly flying stands)
- upgrade set to build Breachers. While Mk VI armour looks fine on most other units, it isn't ideal (IMO) for Breachers. So I'd want some additional bits to make the armour heavier looking

A customisable plastic Consul - maybe 2 different basic types, with different ranges of upgrades.

A Javelin (I think this is very likely)

Then, while I expect there will be more plastic Marine tanks, I'd want them to branch off into a different faction and at least cover the basics with plastic kits.

perhaps they could update the Mk.III armor to match the new size of the Mk.VI sprue, and make a breacher squad upgrade kit that can be used with either? since the Mk.VI style builds have separate hands, such a kit could be mostly the shields, with hands molded on so it could be used with either armor.

could possible also include the arms and weapons for the assault unit. alternately, they update the Mk.IV armor as well and release the assault upgrade set as part of it.

mithril2098 wrote:
perhaps they could update the Mk.III armor to match the new size of the Mk.VI sprue, and make a breacher squad upgrade kit that can be used with either? since the Mk.VI style builds have separate hands, such a kit could be mostly the shields, with hands molded on so it could be used with either armor.

As soon as they do that, they 'invalidate' the existing Mk III kit. And I can't see them doing 2 different sets of what are basically assault Marines (it's also quite tricky to make optional boarding shields etc that are compatible with both Mk III and Mk VI armour). However, there is no doubt that Mk III is a contender for the most popular HH armour type, and GW would get a lot of sales out of upsized Mk III models.

To be honest, MkIII is the Breacher armour. Canonically designed for exactly the sort of job you need Breachers for.

I for one don’t think I’d even want non-MkIII Breachers.

It would also break up the monotony of nowt but MkVI.

So the Arquitor variants and Super Heavies are all gone from the website. I expect we’ll see those announced in the coming weeks.

Interested to see how they do the Arquitors kit wise.

If they are doing the Fellblade etc in plastic, I don’t see why the Kratos had to be added to the range. It seems unnecessary.

The Arquitor is not an attractive or cool vehicle. And if that’s moving to plastic, then there’s still the Sabre to do. I love tanks (and am looking forward to the Vindy in plastic, as well as the Sicaran variants), but this is too much even for me.

Bright side?

Once all the tanks are out the way, it’s all infantry o’clock. I guess.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Bright side?

Once all the tanks are out the way, it’s all infantry o’clock. I guess.

Your optimism knows no bounds...

I could totally see them pulling more tanks outta their ass.

But I really, really want fething despoilers/assaults!

More brand new tank types just out of spite.

 Gert wrote:
More brand new tank types just out of spite.

Landraider Mk II.v with a new hat

And then 18 weeks of a legion specific hat previewed each.