How do!


Awwwwwwwwwww yis!

Take a trip down memory lane, and get a fascinating glimpse into the rich history of the game with this faithful reprint of the original edition of Warhammer 40,000, first released in 1987.

Previously only available to purchase at Warhammer World, this 288-page Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader book will be available on a Print on Demand basis until 8am BST on Monday the 23rd of October 2023 and will ship within 180 days of the ordering window closing. Make sure to secure this must-have collectors item while you can!

Run, don’t walk. This book is completely pants on head hatstand wibble wibble crazy, and so, so worth owning. For those of us with historical copies, there’s even something to be said for a browsable copy, preserving the original.

I wonder if the sudden spike in availability will lead to people playing RT with their modern 40k minis lol

Well that saves a drive to WW at some point. You have to think they'll do the same for Slaves to Darkness too eventually.

This jumped out at me when looking at next week's preorders. I already have a pdf of this book but I'm definitely tempted to pick up a hard copy.

Nice of GW to give a wider audience the option to buy it, without having to go to Warhammer World. Hopefully the price is reasonable too.

I hope it isn't insanely priced, because I'd love to get this. Can see it being very popular. Hopefully they reprint some other classic books in the future

Perfect! I've been meaning to get this some day and I guess this is the day!

Let's hope it doesn't end with this and that other rogue trader books will follow.

Should be £41, or there about, which I believe is the going WHW price.

I wonder if this means they're going to stop doing the periodic reprints for sale a warhammer world/the citadels?

(not that having worldwide availibility isn't a better option)

I’d hope not. They’re a great thing to own, and not everyone is going to have the money to drop this time around.

Where is this order able from? Can't seem to find it on the main site.

chaos0xomega wrote:
I wonder if the sudden spike in availability will lead to people playing RT with their modern 40k minis lol

Why?

If there is a spike in people playing RT, I’ll play with my original RT minis.

Although I’d love to see people complain about people using new minis, and how the bigger guys are MFA, and they need to rebase on smaller bases to play.

OK, that’s a lie, I don’t want to actually see that, but the concept made me chuckle, so here we are...

chaos0xomega wrote:
I wonder if the sudden spike in availability will lead to people playing RT with their modern 40k minis lol

Man, I sure hope so! The modern GW miniatures range is pretty comprehensive when it comes to Rogue Trader, too. You even got most of the fabled bestiary covered as models, one of the recent Necromunda resin kits added one more IIRC (EDIT: Nope, Millisaurs are in Necromunda only, misremembered)

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Should be £41, or there about, which I believe is the going WHW price.

That is a pants-on-head crazy price.

It might’ve been £31, now I think about it?

It’s been a couple of years since I visited WHW, and longer since I did a Rogue Trader loot run.


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 Taarnak wrote:
Where is this order able from? Can't seem to find it on the main site.

Available as of Saturday coming.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Taarnak wrote:
Where is this order able from? Can't seem to find it on the main site.

Available as of Saturday coming.

Ah. Thanks much. I don't even see the news item on the Community page. lol

This is awesome timing for me. I just started hunting on eBay recently.

Just watched a video of one purchased from WW at release and the price sticker said £35. I assume this will be a bit higher?

Do I need a third copy of RT? would be nice to have one in perfect condition I suppose (I have a 1st and 3rd printing I got from FB groups but they're looking a little worse for wear now)

Was on my first trip to Warhammer World on 18 September past, and picked up a retail copy of Rogue Trader, price was £40. Now kicking myself as I didn’t pick up both Realm of Chaos books at the same time.

Read RT on the train back to Edinburgh and spent the whole five-hour journey chuckling at the madness therein. I particularly enjoyed the chapter on how to scratch-build terrain out of every piece of otherwise disposable plastic that comes into your house - but if you’re not careful, your house will fill up with really interesting pieces of disposable plastic ;-)

I've been waiting for this for a while. I had hoped this would be on offer during the previous anniversaries but I'm glad it has happened, finally.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It might’ve been £31, now I think about it?

No_Marines_Here wrote:
Just watched a video of one purchased from WW at release and the price sticker said £35. I assume this will be a bit higher?

Baltika wrote:
Was on my first trip to Warhammer World on 18 September past, and picked up a retail copy of Rogue Trader, price was £40.

Pants-on-head, pencils up nose, and say 'wibble'.

At least two of those accounts are probably just chat GPT

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It might’ve been £31, now I think about it?

No_Marines_Here wrote:
Just watched a video of one purchased from WW at release and the price sticker said £35. I assume this will be a bit higher?

Baltika wrote:
Was on my first trip to Warhammer World on 18 September past, and picked up a retail copy of Rogue Trader, price was £40.

Pants-on-head, pencils up nose, and say 'wibble'.

Possibly. Depends on 2nd hand prices for originals.

Cursory eBay prices are proper crazy. Of course that doesn’t mean £41 for the Print on Demand is therefore objectively fine. But, it is something to be factored in if one is keen to own a copy.

Given my search turned up prices for the other 1st Ed books? I’m bloody glad I got my set a few years back. Because it’s all gone Roger Irrelevant in prices.

It wasn't available when I went to WW in 1997 so I'm definitely going to get one. I started playing right when then Angels of Death codex dropped so I really want to get my hands on it.

 Nevelon wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
I wonder if the sudden spike in availability will lead to people playing RT with their modern 40k minis lol

Why?

If there is a spike in people playing RT, I’ll play with my original RT minis.

Most people don't have and can't afford RT era minis

chaos0xomega wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
I wonder if the sudden spike in availability will lead to people playing RT with their modern 40k minis lol

Why?

If there is a spike in people playing RT, I’ll play with my original RT minis.

Most people don't have and can't afford RT era minis

One of the perks of being old. I’ve got a laundry list of health and other issues, but I’m a pack-rat who never cashed out of the game. So I’ve got an eclectic collection or random minis from across the eras.

Part of the fun of RT was being able to stat up whatever you had. Found object conversions, random toy vehicles off the shelf. Whatever. So while I’d personally use it as an excuse to do things like dust off some tinboys or get the RTB01s more table time, no slight against anyone else using what they have.

If the fun is there, I do not care.

Pretty cool to see it in print again, I cherish my original copy, especially as I came by it as a happenstance about ten years ago.

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It might’ve been £31, now I think about it?

No_Marines_Here wrote:
Just watched a video of one purchased from WW at release and the price sticker said £35. I assume this will be a bit higher?

Baltika wrote:
Was on my first trip to Warhammer World on 18 September past, and picked up a retail copy of Rogue Trader, price was £40.

Pants-on-head, pencils up nose, and say 'wibble'.

It’s all relative, when it comes to an entertainment budget.

I’m in my early 50’s, I have a good job, if I take my wife and two (teenage) kids out for dinner and a movie, there’s no change out of £100 these days. Double that if they want to go for a steak dinner. That’s for a few hours entertainment on a Saturday night. I can’t afford to do it every week, but £40 for a book that will last me years? It’s not an issue. My 14 y/o son is setting up his Orks and DA so we can play the Battle at the Farm, using the RT rules. There’s hours and hours of value there.

But hey, everyone’s situation is different. YMMV.

50€ for a good hardcover book would be a regular price, a print on demand collectors item from that company I expect more like 80-100€ so 40£/55€ would be "cheap".

it is a collectors item that you are going to keep and not replace within 3 years with the new print edition, yet paying 40£/55€ for that is considered fine but for something that is going to stay it is too high?

PS: I just bought the re-print of the Housebook of Wolfegg Castle for 100€, so a limited available collectors book is in a different price range among the collectors than the throwaway hardcover of the current edition of 40k

My old copy has definitely seen better days. Good opportunity to upgrade.

Amazing book with all the proto-mythology for 40K. If you don't have a copy, you should.

Not going to lie if they release the Compendium and the Compilation as well I don't care what price they charge.

....huh. I though it was in limited print already, as not too long ago (about 3 years maybe?) a friend got one for me at Warhammer World.

Semi-stock item at WHW, along with both Realm of Chaos books.

Whilst something with ongoing print runs, whether they’ll be on the shelf on a given visit is dicey, as it seems a run is ordered when stock is low or sold out,

I'd be tempted together this as my original copy is falling to bits. Theres some really cool dioramas in there - especially the eldar vs squats one on a waterfront. ah the memories..

Has the price been leaked?

I don’t think so, no. Being GW direct only, we’ll probably have to wait.

chaos0xomega wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
I wonder if the sudden spike in availability will lead to people playing RT with their modern 40k minis lol

Why?

If there is a spike in people playing RT, I’ll play with my original RT minis.

Most people don't have and can't afford RT era minis

It's not even about affordability to some. Back in the Rogue Trader days, some of the models were more like tokens than "realistic" depictions of the characters they tried to represent, statuesque poses and all. Scales were all over the place, odd proportions prevalent. If someone wants to use modern minis with old rules, I see nothing wrond with that, its probably even going to look better visually than just sticking to old models. Dont be one of those "purists" who still insist on sticking to the old leaded ways just because its what was available at the time - the rules themselves have no expiration date

Not to disrespect anyone playing with their vintage minis - you do you

RT was a book that helped you make the sci-fi game you wanted to play, rather than obsessing over a tournament-winning army list. Flicking through the bestiary, plot generator, options for multiple vehicles, robots and wargear, you can see a lot of what has been lost over the years. On the other hand, the lore and visual style of 40K was only beginning to take shape and is a far cry from the 40K of today.

For those who like their inquisitors, hive gangs, navigators and rebel plantary governers, RT comes recommended. If not, the closest we have to it's "spirit" today is Stargrave and Necromunda.

 silverstu wrote:
I'd be tempted together this as my original copy is falling to bits. Theres some really cool dioramas in there - especially the eldar vs squats one on a waterfront. ah the memories..

Same here! One of the many reasons I won't part with my copy.

Might just order a Squat prospector gang just for old time's sake...

 Rolsheen wrote:
Not going to lie if they release the Compendium and the Compilation as well I don't care what price they charge.

Yeah, I would love GW to reprint the rest of the RT and 2nd edition books.

A 2nd edition starter set re-issue is SUCH a no-brainer, card Ork dreadnought and all!

 Tabletop_Magpie wrote:
A 2nd edition starter set re-issue is SUCH a no-brainer, card Ork dreadnought and all!

Interesting, would you say its an integral part of the starter? I need to add it to my swap shop listing..

One of my Loot Group Mods just updated our Known WHW Stock Exclusives.

And one of the photos is of Rogue Trader, priced at £40.00.

If you want a taste of what you're in for...

My old Retro Review

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/689919.page

 Tabletop_Magpie wrote:
A 2nd edition starter set re-issue is SUCH a no-brainer, card Ork dreadnought and all!

2nd ed starter and the 4th ed starter (Aquila Lander) would be great reissues. Of course, it would be extra cool if the 2nd ed set included Dark Millennium cards too.

 tauist wrote:
Interesting, would you say it’s an integral part of the starter? I need to add it to my swap shop listing..

It was included in the 2nd ed starter. It was a cardboard dread with stand. It’s an iconic piece of 40k history. For me personally, while I love the idea of it and have some nostalgia for it, I don’t love it enough to seek it out (on the other hand, I still look for RT chaos renegades), but to each their own.

chaos0xomega wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
I wonder if the sudden spike in availability will lead to people playing RT with their modern 40k minis lol

Why?

If there is a spike in people playing RT, I’ll play with my original RT minis.

Most people don't have and can't afford RT era minis

RT was an era before GW had a lot of minis anyways, so it's perfectly fine to use the modern minis or any old sci fi minis you can get your hands on. In fact, that was what a lot of this book was about, a LOT of stuff in it was scratch-built or repurposed from other games (*cough* Battletech *cough*), and the game really encouraged that sort of thing, with a whole "scratch-build" how-to in it.

That's cool for collection / discovery, but people thinking these old game mechanics are so good you'll see plenty of games suddenly popping on the internet tend to forget that these old game mechanics...weren't that very good in reality.

There's a ton of silly randomness and horribly written rules that leave a lot to interpretation (competitive players, stay out of this, you'll have a heart attack otherwise).

If you like to have a sandbox for inspiration and roll die, it's fun to read.

BTW, is there a direct link to the article? I can't find it on Warhammer Community, and if this will be available to US customers.

Mad Doc, I might have to be familiarizing myself with your loot group

 Stormonu wrote:
BTW, is there a direct link to the article? I can't find it on Warhammer Community, and if this will be available to US customers.

It's the very last thing in the Sunday Preview article: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/10/08/sunday-preview-new-releases-abound-from-the-age-of-darkness/

 Stormonu wrote:
BTW, is there a direct link to the article? I can't find it on Warhammer Community, and if this will be available to US customers.

Mad Doc, I might have to be familiarizing myself with your loot group

Bottom of the sunday teaser

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/10/08/sunday-preview-new-releases-abound-from-the-age-of-darkness/

Take a trip down memory lane, and get a fascinating glimpse into the rich history of the game with this faithful reprint of the original edition of Warhammer 40,000, first released in 1987.

Previously only available to purchase at Warhammer World, this 288-page Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader book will be available on a Print on Demand basis until 8am BST on Monday the 23rd of October 2023 and will ship within 180 days of the ordering window closing. Make sure to secure this must-have collectors item while you can!

 Stormonu wrote:
BTW, is there a direct link to the article? I can't find it on Warhammer Community, and if this will be available to US customers.

Mad Doc, I might have to be familiarizing myself with your loot group

Everyone should! It’s a happy band of idiots all helping each other out, with surprisingly few urine extractors that are in it for flipping.

Question for anyone with one of the reprints.

Did they print The Farm scenario on the dark blue paper like the original had?

My memory is of a construction paper-like feel with difficult to read black print on the blue.

If memory serves, it’s a faithful reproduction of the original.

 skrulnik wrote:
Question for anyone with one of the reprints.

Did they print The Farm scenario on the dark blue paper like the original had?

My memory is of a construction paper-like feel with difficult to read black print on the blue.

It's maybe a tad more purple? But yes

A great game to play with a squad or two, against some other squad or two. Defiantly one of the better walks down memory lane, especially since I have all of my old figures, and a batch of e bay specials that I can go back and touch up/ repaint.

As to playing it... I would suggest playing it with old figures, or maybe some of the Horus Heresy Marines. I just fits. Of course, I'm on to playing second edition again, so it's par for the course that I'm taking steps backwards, just for the simplifying my life bit.

As to second edition- It was a step up to platoon level, and 3d edition was Company level. RT era was squad on squad. You could very well use that new Space Hulk terrain, and get yourself stuck in with a couple of bands of Inquisitors from different Ordos chasing down a demon engine, or traitor legion squad, or even the Genestealers and clearing a Hulk itself...

Hell, now that you mention it, Kill team figures come to mind.... Hmmm.....

The game's still a keeper after all these years, and yeah- "Er We Go", and "Waagh!!" are still that awesome! There's just something about seeing those old Lead figures and home made vehicles that tickles your Big Red Button...

Great that this is being re-printed as the eBay prices have gone insane, and it's a great piece of GW history!

If anyone wants to re-create 'battle for the farm' check out these minis by Kev Adams, who was one of the original Ork mini sculptors.
https://knightmareminiatures.com/category/orcs-and-goblins

Marines are a bit easier to come by, especially if you don't mind stripping some old RTB01s, but I recently pledged for this KS and they have some very nice 'inspired by' Rogue Trader-like minis. I assume they will go on general sale at some point soon.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/bequestminiatures/star-rogues-bequest-miniatures-and-spevna-studio?ref=user_menu

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
If you want a taste of what you're in for...

My old Retro Review

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/689919.page

I loved this review! Just had a read through again, really made me laugh.

The only thing that discourages me is that I just spent the best part of £40 on GW getting the new Necromunda rules book - though at least that's for an upcoming campaign kicking off end of this week so it will at least see some use!


For me Rogue Trade is a historical curiosity for me because I was never around 40K in that era, so I've no nostalgic feeling. However its a big part of my life for ages so I feel like its something I would get great value out of and heck seeing the original starting point would be very neat!

 Fugazi wrote:

2nd ed starter and the 4th ed starter (Aquila Lander) would be great reissues.

I'd rather have a remaster than a reprint. With the way tech has advanced, it wouldn't take much at all to have an intact Aquila lander. I bet it could be done within half the terrain budget of a new season Kill Team big box.

Hopefully, it won't fall apart like the original one did. I still remember the center pages falling out after a couple weeks owning it.

Likewise, I have no nostalgia for RT. I started right as 4th edition launched so RT is a good bit before my time (hell, I wasn't even born yet when it was released). The artwork, sculpting style, painting style, etc. of that era mean nothing for me and I have no particular interest in it, but I am curious to see what the first draft, as it were, of the lore looked like first hand and what the first iteration of the rules played like - I understand the differences and whatnot in theory, but understanding it in practice by actually playing it is a different story.

Well, I am old enough to have nostalgia for the Rogue Trader rulebook, especially since I wasn't lucky enough to get one when I was a kid.

So a tip of my hat to Grotsnik for the heads up. I'll definitely be snagging one of these.

Sarouan wrote:
That's cool for collection / discovery, but people thinking these old game mechanics are so good you'll see plenty of games suddenly popping on the internet tend to forget that these old game mechanics...weren't that very good in reality...

The same could be said about any edition of 40K really.. they're all flawed one way or another. Difference to the earlier editions is, the old editions never claimed to be for "competitive play"

chaos0xomega wrote:
Likewise, I have no nostalgia for RT. I started right as 4th edition launched so RT is a good bit before my time (hell, I wasn't even born yet when it was released). The artwork, sculpting style, painting style, etc. of that era mean nothing for me and I have no particular interest in it, but I am curious to see what the first draft, as it were, of the lore looked like first hand and what the first iteration of the rules played like - I understand the differences and whatnot in theory, but understanding it in practice by actually playing it is a different story.

I myself missed Rogue Trader, as my first 40K was 2nd Ed.

But, the Rogue Trader era is fascinating in terms of game development. And to see 40k’s odd, anarchic “sod it, put it in” early days is, what’s the right word? Fantastic, I guess. Chunks of the modern background come from those heady days, but a lot has been strained and refined over the editions (certainly 2nd Ed was the proper codification of what was in or out).

And there’s a lot to enjoy, even if the rules are barely comprehensible.

1st edition is fun, don't take it too seriously and don't have too many models but its a lot of fun if you approach it to enjoy it and not try to break it

leopard wrote:
1st edition is fun, don't take it too seriously and don't have too many models but its a lot of fun if you approach it to enjoy it and not try to break it

Inquisitor Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau disapproves of this post..

IMO, every 40K player should have played Battle at the Farm at least once.

This pleases Zulthar

 Pacific wrote:
Great that this is being re-printed as the eBay prices have gone insane, and it's a great piece of GW history!

If anyone wants to re-create 'battle for the farm' check out these minis by Kev Adams, who was one of the original Ork mini sculptors.
https://knightmareminiatures.com/category/orcs-and-goblins

Marines are a bit easier to come by, especially if you don't mind stripping some old RTB01s, but I recently pledged for this KS and they have some very nice 'inspired by' Rogue Trader-like minis. I assume they will go on general sale at some point soon.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/bequestminiatures/star-rogues-bequest-miniatures-and-spevna-studio?ref=user_menu

Haha, if you can't get hold of the old RTB01's, these wannabe throwbacks were what my old group used back in the day.

https://em4miniatures.com/en-us/products/space-rangers

I bought those once, I couldn't even bring myself to assemble them.

Definitely a 2nd edition start set level of quality!

Possibly a stupid question, but I’ve never been to WH World to see the reprints in person. They’re hardback, correct?

Yup. Hardback, faithful reproductions.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Likewise, I have no nostalgia for RT. I started right as 4th edition launched so RT is a good bit before my time (hell, I wasn't even born yet when it was released). The artwork, sculpting style, painting style, etc. of that era mean nothing for me and I have no particular interest in it, but I am curious to see what the first draft, as it were, of the lore looked like first hand and what the first iteration of the rules played like - I understand the differences and whatnot in theory, but understanding it in practice by actually playing it is a different story.

I myself missed Rogue Trader, as my first 40K was 2nd Ed.

But, the Rogue Trader era is fascinating in terms of game development. And to see 40k’s odd, anarchic “sod it, put it in” early days is, what’s the right word? Fantastic, I guess. Chunks of the modern background come from those heady days, but a lot has been strained and refined over the editions (certainly 2nd Ed was the proper codification of what was in or out).

And there’s a lot to enjoy, even if the rules are barely comprehensible.

I also have no real nostalgio for Rogue Trader, but would buy the feth out of a 2nd ed box set. I was already looking at getting into 2nd ed 40k when 3rd was announced so I jumped into 3rd from the very release, but 2nd is what all the regulars at the FLGS talked about and compared everything to when I was a newbie and I still have some of the 2nd ed codexes, whereas most of the 3rd ed ones have long since been tossed/sold/lost.

I've had some of the RT books over the years, but they're mainly just neat things to look through and read. Still happy to see the old RT books coming back though, even if it's not something I'd personally purchase, but I'm with those hoping for a reprinted 2nd ed box like they did with the made-to-order 3rd starter last year.

I actually wonder if the cardboard compnents are the hangup for 2nd ed, if GW doesn't have those cutting dies still then the cardboard dreadnought might be the most expensive part of the reprint

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Yup. Hardback, faithful reproductions.

That said, back in the day they did both hard and softback editions of the book.

I'll be picking this and the two Realm of Chaos books up at Warhammer World next week


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 Albertorius wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Yup. Hardback, faithful reproductions.

That said, back in the day they did both hard and softback editions of the book.

Yep, my original copy was a softback...

If they’re in stock there. It’s touch and go!

My current copy is indeed soft back. And I’ve absolutely no idea when that version was first released.

I may order the print to order myself. Hardback is just prettier unto my idiot eyes. And practicing what I preach? It’s nice to have a copy I can peruse without overly worrying about preservation.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
If they’re in stock there. It’s touch and go!

My current copy is indeed soft back. And I’ve absolutely no idea when that version was first released.

I may order the print to order myself. Hardback is just prettier unto my idiot eyes. And practicing what I preach? It’s nice to have a copy I can peruse without overly worrying about preservation.

If memory serves, the first print was the softback. Or at least it's the first one I ever saw.

I don't recall ever seeing anything but the softcover here in the States. Fantasy Battles and the Realms of Chaos books were hardcover.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
If they’re in stock there. It’s touch and go!

They've already put them aside for me

As someone who hasn't ever played RT but wants to try; I've heard people say it's virtually impossible to play Rogue Trader without many different White Dwarf supplements and at least a couple other books. I am planning on picking this up with the intention of actually trying to play the game. Is that a fool's errand or a chance for some genuine fun with the old system?

 WarlordMoga wrote:
As someone who hasn't ever played RT but wants to try; I've heard people say it's virtually impossible to play Rogue Trader without many different White Dwarf supplements and at least a couple other books. I am planning on picking this up with the intention of actually trying to play the game. Is that a fool's errand or a chance for some genuine fun with the old system?

The book is eminently playable. But it's not a "complete product" in the same sense that current 40k is. It's a toolbox for you to do with it what you will.

ecurtz wrote:
I don't recall ever seeing anything but the softcover here in the States. Fantasy Battles and the Realms of Chaos books were hardcover.

I can personally attest to at least one hardback copy making it’s way to a FLGS in Louisville KY. No clue about distribution as a nation, but at least some made their way over here.

The original RT in the UK was hardback. Softback didn't appear until a few years later, probably when they were selling compendiums of WD articles.

I remember back in the day I had RT, both Realm of Chaos books, the Compendium and the Compilation. There were other WD articles we used too, like the 2-part article that became the Vehicle Manual (128 and 129) and the Space Wolves army list (156).

Old-Four-Arms wrote:

Inquisitor Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau disapproves of this post..

People always bring up Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau as an example of Rogue Trader's ridiculousness, but Inquisitor names are full of references even today (Fyodor Karamazov, Torquemada Coteaz, Emil Darkhammer) and people don't seem to mind.

Santtu wrote:

Old-Four-Arms wrote:

Inquisitor Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau disapproves of this post..

People always bring up Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau as an example of Rogue Trader's ridiculousness, but Inquisitor names are full of references even today (Fyodor Karamazov, Torquemada Coteaz, Emil Darkhammer) and people don't seem to mind.

Maybe I'm dense, but what are these references to?

.

chaos0xomega wrote:


Maybe I'm dense, but what are these references to?

The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Tomás de Torquemada, no idea who Darkhammer is referencing.

Im sitting here looking at my copy of the original, purchased alongside the battle manual and vehicle manual during a "blue dot sale" about 2 months before the release of 2nd ed. its getting a bit worn Might have to get one of these.

WarlordMoga wrote:
As someone who hasn't ever played RT but wants to try; I've heard people say it's virtually impossible to play Rogue Trader without many different White Dwarf supplements and at least a couple other books. I am planning on picking this up with the intention of actually trying to play the game. Is that a fool's errand or a chance for some genuine fun with the old system?

To play anything even remotely resembling modern 40k, you’d need a host of White Dwarfs or copy of the Compendium/Astronomicon. BUT, if you want to play a wild, weird sci-fi rpg-ish adventure with a GM, absolutely go for it. I remember doing a campaign as a Rogue Trader building up his forces over various raids and money-making missions. It was fun. But we fudged or made up rules where the book was either unclear or silent.

My friend had the hardback. I never owned the book until much later (but before the oldhammer trend bumped the prices) and even then it was only a used softcover. I do have both of the old hardcover Realm of Chaos books, and I’ll probably pick up the hardcover RT given how often I like to flip through the art.

Most of the RT era books (10 biggest ones anyway) are available REDACTED

I'd think that if one had access to those, hunting for WD copies would be mostly unnecessary?

 Fugazi wrote:

WarlordMoga wrote:
As someone who hasn't ever played RT but wants to try; I've heard people say it's virtually impossible to play Rogue Trader without many different White Dwarf supplements and at least a couple other books. I am planning on picking this up with the intention of actually trying to play the game. Is that a fool's errand or a chance for some genuine fun with the old system?

To play anything even remotely resembling modern 40k, you’d need a host of White Dwarfs or copy of the Compendium/Astronomicon. BUT, if you want to play a wild, weird sci-fi rpg-ish adventure with a GM, absolutely go for it. I remember doing a campaign as a Rogue Trader building up his forces over various raids and money-making missions. It was fun. But we fudged or made up rules where the book was either unclear or silent.

My friend had the hardback. I never owned the book until much later (but before the oldhammer trend bumped the prices) and even then it was only a used softcover. I do have both of the old hardcover Realm of Chaos books, and I’ll probably pick up the hardcover RT given how often I like to flip through the art.

It also depends which era of Rogue Trader. Compendium and Battle Manual both rejigged things quite significantly.

You know what? Rogue Trader was like a game of Kal-Toh. At the beginning it was a glorious mess. Moves were made across its lifetime, each one refining its shape and structure, until it more or less morphed straight in 2nd Ed, which was the final grand tweaking/

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

It also depends which era of Rogue Trader. Compendium and Battle Manual both rejigged things quite significantly.

You know what? Rogue Trader was like a game of Kal-Toh. At the beginning it was a glorious mess. Moves were made across its lifetime, each one refining its shape and structure, until it more or less morphed straight in 2nd Ed, which was the final grand tweaking/

Agreed. It really depends on the game you want to play. If you want some kind of battle/mission/squad-based rpg…er, thing jammed with weird ideas, then you want the earlier RT. If you want a few squads against a few squads, you want the later tweaks.

Although I feel a strong nostalgia for RT, I do have to admit that if I want the former, I’d go with the Rogue Trader or Dark Heresy RPG from FFG. If I want the latter, I’d go with 2nd ed. And yet I still recommend the RT book for all the reasons you and others have stated.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
no idea who Darkhammer is referencing.

Émile Durkheim (maybe)

I'll go on out there and say it...

If you've never played Rogue Trader, it's about you and a couple of mates getting together and putting an adventure together, pretty much from scratch. Everyone contributes, and you have to bring your part to the table. It was pretty much- hey you go get your faction, I'll get mine, and we'll put a planet together/ city together and fight for some goals. All the while, you have added tricks and chewies to add to your team/ crew. We didn't start with armies, you started with a couple of guys in a team/ crew/ squad.

The individual was the army, so to speak, and even if you ended up down to Nigel the Mechanic and a half drunk squat named Jones, it was anyone's game. If you see the Crew Sheets, you'll also see that they look familiar. RT was the beginning. Where a shampoo bottle could become a deadly implement of war, and cardboard and popsicle sticks could become cover and concealment or shanty towns.

I still have one of my Gobsmasha's, and the White Dwarf with the plans for it and the Bonebreaka, and Gutrippa as well.

This is a reference, but basically THIS is it.
https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2020/04/warhammer-40k-retro-challenge-build-your-own-gobsmasha.html


As to rules, You didn't have the technical arguments like you did with later editions of the game. You rolled a D6 or a D100 respectively for arguments and results. Orks were full on funions. One fell of a truck, he got a damage, and had to run his little butt and catch up, or be left out there as his own.

As to Battle of the Farm, that was a capstone for the book advertising the first of the games boxed sets, One was a box of Space Marines, the Second was Warlord Snagrod's Mob.

You get to either love or hate D 100 charts, in RT, as well...

D100? Bah. Realms of Chaos had D1000 charts!

One of the things rarely discussed about RT - but was the reason I got pulled into it - was it had a Gamemaster, like a RPG.

You could run scenarios where players were running from one individual to a small squad apiece and the Gamemaster could create scenarios to put the groups through.

The Book of the Astronomican had a campaign for such play called "The Wolf Time" where half the group would be playing a squad of Space Wolves apiece, the other half play Orks (or run by the GM) and the GM had special set-up rules and handle any surprise twists that came up during the scenarios.

By 2E, that had fallen out of favor for player vs. player games with no Game master to oversee the action.

Help out an old, old gamer-- how does one order this reprint? The binding on my old copy has long since disintegrated, and it would be nice to have a copy to look through and lift scenarios from. Sadly, I can't seem to find a link to the book...

I don’t think it goes live until Saturday at 10am, it may be a slightly different time depending on region. You should be able to find it under new & exclusive and then pre-orders, I suspect there will also be a banner on the home page though.

eNJayBe wrote:
I don’t think it goes live until Saturday at 10am, it may be a slightly different time depending on region. You should be able to find it under new & exclusive and then pre-orders, I suspect there will also be a banner on the home page though.

Cool, thanks!

So is this always available for sale at warhammer world?

 triplegrim wrote:
So is this always available for sale at warhammer world?

It should be (along with the Chaos books), but it's frequently out-of-stock.

So $100 in NZ dollars, does that equate to the £32ish mark in the UK? The new Marine codex is $108 NZ and £35 UK.

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
So $100 in NZ dollars, does that equate to the £32ish mark in the UK? The new Marine codex is $108 NZ and £35 UK.

It's £40 at Warhammer World.

 dreadblade wrote:

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
So $100 in NZ dollars, does that equate to the £32ish mark in the UK? The new Marine codex is $108 NZ and £35 UK.

It's £40 at Warhammer World.

Cheers Dreadblade, it would actually be nice to see those in Rest Of the World areas not getting the short end of the stick price wise.

Confirmed at £40

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/warhammer-40000-rogue-trader-pod-2023

BOUGHT

 tauist wrote:
BOUGHT

Ditto. And the long half year wait begins...

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

 tauist wrote:
BOUGHT

Ditto. And the long half year wait begins...

PTOs are very rarely more than a couple of months in practice, GW just do that to cover themselves.

Yep I also bought it, seems too good to miss.

Also picked up the Votann mini which I can't wait to convert the hell out of.

As its up until November I might wait and budget this one next month before the impulsive purcase

Hmmmm €55 is a little bit more than I expected but I'll pick it up anyway. What is the ROW getting charged?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
D100? Bah. Realms of Chaos had D1000 charts!

To be fair I don't think they even had more than 100 actual outcomes, I remember the common results had a range of like 30 or 40 numbers

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
D100? Bah. Realms of Chaos had D1000 charts!

To be fair I don't think they even had more than 100 actual outcomes, I remember the common results had a range of like 30 or 40 numbers

Ah contrare many brought you to a sub table with more rolls for the scent of your flatulence or the number of extra limbs

Sod it.

I’m gonna take the plunge on payday. I’ve got the soft back, but the hardback is just a nicer artefact.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
D100? Bah. Realms of Chaos had D1000 charts!

To be fair I don't think they even had more than 100 actual outcomes, I remember the common results had a range of like 30 or 40 numbers

130 results on the Personal Attributes table (including 'GM's choice' and 'invent your own'). Only 78 on the Daemon weapon table, and only 64 on the Dominant Attribute table (including 'GM's choice' and 'invent your own').

But then look at the miniscule size of text on the 'Universal Creatures Table' at the back of Lost & the Damned - d1000 result to find a species and then d100 within that to find their rank! "Players of WH40k may re-roll results under 645 if they wish". Now that's a table!

I never pre order, so I may be out of the loop, but I still don't see it on the US site. Do they roll out pre orders at different times on different stores?

 Taarnak wrote:
I never pre order, so I may be out of the loop, but I still don't see it on the US site. Do they roll out pre orders at different times on different stores?

10am local time is when pre-orders go live.
Note that this isn't a pre-order; its a Made To Order. That means it might take up to 180 days to be made, shipped and delivered. GW isn't sitting on stock; the orders they get will define the stock order they make to the manufacturer (since GW doesn't print in-house).

Now many times these can also come in waves, although that's normally with models. Books tend to be a one-and-done; but there can still be delivery variation based on your country/region.

Sometimes GW will have a block of stock already ready to go; so some will get very fast delivery whilst others have to wait. This can often be on products where GW isn't sure if its going to out-sell their inventory. If it doesn't GW still has product to sell and will know roughly how fast it might sell out; if it exceeds their inventory then they can ship out what they can and then order in the rest to meet demand.

 Overread wrote:

 Taarnak wrote:
I never pre order, so I may be out of the loop, but I still don't see it on the US site. Do they roll out pre orders at different times on different stores?

10am local time is when pre-orders go live.
Note that this isn't a pre-order; its a Made To Order. That means it might take up to 180 days to be made, shipped and delivered. GW isn't sitting on stock; the orders they get will define the stock order they make to the manufacturer (since GW doesn't print in-house).

Thanks for that.

Yeah, I understand it is MTO. I got the Cursed City stuff from them, just not on day one so I wasn't sure when they posted stuff. Cursed City boxes took a loooong time to show up... lol.

They must not be on Eastern Daylight Time for the US. I'll just have to keep checking it.

GE preorders always go live at 1:00 pm eastern

 Taarnak wrote:

 Overread wrote:

 Taarnak wrote:
I never pre order, so I may be out of the loop, but I still don't see it on the US site. Do they roll out pre orders at different times on different stores?

10am local time is when pre-orders go live.
Note that this isn't a pre-order; its a Made To Order. That means it might take up to 180 days to be made, shipped and delivered. GW isn't sitting on stock; the orders they get will define the stock order they make to the manufacturer (since GW doesn't print in-house).

Thanks for that.

Yeah, I understand it is MTO. I got the Cursed City stuff from them, just not on day one so I wasn't sure when they posted stuff. Cursed City boxes took a loooong time to show up... lol.

They must not be on Eastern Daylight Time for the US. I'll just have to keep checking it.

In case there's some confusion about ordering on the GW website:

Go to the New & Exclusive tab. If you then click on Pre-orders you won't see Rogue Trader. Instead you have to click on Print on Demand.

Just saying this in case that's the reason you haven't found it. Should be on the US site by now.


EDIT: I just changed my delivery location to US and it seems it's not on the US site after all.... Hopefully just a delay.

 Overread wrote:

 Taarnak wrote:
I never pre order, so I may be out of the loop, but I still don't see it on the US site. Do they roll out pre orders at different times on different stores?

10am local time is when pre-orders go live.
.

Assuming your country isn't linked to other. Like mine. We start with uk same time so for us it's noon.

Probably america has multiple differing timezones as well seeing time zones

do an in-store search for "rogue trader", that's how I found mine anyway..

Oddly enough, I couldnt find the item via site navigation

I just ordered mine from the US site. I took the UK link someone posted earlier in this thread and then changed shipping to US.

New releases, filter on print on demand worked for me

I already ordered one, even though I still have my original copy. After half the pages fell out, I just pulled out the rest of them and stuck them in a 3-hole binder. Also lots of tabs, so it's hardly mint condition.

Here's hoping for a Realms of Chaos reprint too, and Chapter Approved for a stretch goal.

I just ordered my copy. ￥7000 plus ￥1500 shipping-- that's cheap for Japan.

Well crap, the Japanese price + shipping is a smidge under the price I'd have to pay if I wanted another one.

I do hope they do the same for Legion of the Damned or whatever the third hardback is called, already have reprints of Rogue Trader and Realm of Chaos, both excellent time capsules that I've mined for ideas in the past, the mission generator tables were always fun to roll stuff from.

 SgtEeveell wrote:
I already ordered one, even though I still have my original copy. After half the pages fell out, I just pulled out the rest of them and stuck them in a 3-hole binder. Also lots of tabs, so it's hardly mint condition.

Here's hoping for a Realms of Chaos reprint too, and Chapter Approved for a stretch goal.

Realms of Chaos are available. But, Warhammer World and Warhammer Cafe exclusives, with unreliable stock levels. But they are out there!

I tried to resist this siren call, even glanced through a friend's copy to see if this is really worth having. (Unfortunately, it is.)

I caught the Oldhammer bug a few years ago and it still has me in its grip. I just couldn't pass this up.

Maybe they'll do the Realms of Chaos books someday . . . and whatever that book that has photos of all the Warhammer World dioramas is called . . .

I'm not even going to crack mine open (assuming it comes shrinkwrapped), since I already scanned my softcover one into my dataslate, just want to preserve one copy "to the family"

 Talking Banana wrote:
I tried to resist this siren call, even glanced through a friend's copy to see if this is really worth having. (Unfortunately, it is.)

I caught the Oldhammer bug a few years ago and it still has me in its grip. I just couldn't pass this up.

Maybe they'll do the Realms of Chaos books someday . . . and whatever that book that has photos of all the Warhammer World dioramas is called . . .

Part of the ship, part of the crew !

I was lucky enough to get hold of Jes Goodwin's "The Gothic and the Eldritch", but missed out on his Eldar sketchbook. Here's hoping
that one gets another limited/MTO run. Heck, even another compilation book of Jes' sketches since then would sell like hotcakes.

WOOT!

Got mine on order. I was shocked there wasn't a shipping charge for US, but I guess that's factored into the 20% overhead we pay.

Still, it's the one copy of the ruleset I've been lacking, and I just really wanted it for nostalgia's sake.

Question: was there ever a hardback version of 40K 2E? The one I've got is softback and is incredibly thin. Feels like it's missing half the volume it should have.

Second Edition was 3 separate books; rules, background, and armies as well as the black pamphlet codex. Plus another box with a book for Pyskers. That's probably why it seems so skinny.

 Stormonu wrote:
WOOT!

Got mine on order. I was shocked there wasn't a shipping charge for US, but I guess that's factored into the 20% overhead we pay.

Still, it's the one copy of the ruleset I've been lacking, and I just really wanted it for nostalgia's sake.

Question: was there ever a hardback version of 40K 2E? The one I've got is softback and is incredibly thin. Feels like it's missing half the volume it should have.

There was never a hardback, no. Just the three softbacks.

I honestly think if they reissued a hardback of the Codex Imperialis from 2nd ed like Rogue Trader it would sell like gangbusters. It's basically the foundation of modern 40k storytelling.

I tried to get Lost & the Damned from WW when I was there, must have been out of stock. Would definitely get one if it became PTO, as I didn't get it in its day.

My Slaves to Darkness is pasted up from the WD errata back in the day, would be nice to have a "clean" copy as well...

I wonder if successful sales of the RT core book might give them incentive to dredge up old copies of the Compendium and Compilation and re-issue them as well. From what I understand it was Louise Sugden who was the main driver behind the effort, and I think she was the one who personally scanned an original copy of the RT book page by page and did the necessary cleanup and remastering or whatever to make this book possible. She's obviously not around anymore so there might not be an internal driver for it.

She was given the job of breaking down a pristine, archived copy for scanning and cleaning up. Not sure she championed it though.

Having copies of Compendium and Compilation, in terms of historical interest they’re just not the same as RT and the two RoC books.

Waaaargh! The Orks! absolutely is,

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Having copies of Compendium and Compilation, in terms of historical interest they’re just not the same as RT and the two RoC books.

Waaaargh! The Orks! absolutely is,

Agreed, and I think that’s more likely if they did reprint a fourth book. The Compendium and Compilation would be nice as a combined book (both volumes in one book), for the art, old fluff, and nostalgia, but I don’t know if there’s enough interest from Grognards and the curious.

Apart from that, a combined reprint of Gorkamorka Da Roolz and Da Uvver Book would be nice.

I honestly find myself going more to my compendium than my RT rulebook when looking into retro-wayback questions.

But honestly, the more access to classics for more people, the better.

I would be down for a copy of the Compendium and Compilation, especially if they were combined into one book. All I have left of those two books are a couple page fragments from my brother's copy.

I'd also like to get my hands on the Book of Astronomican - it was the one book our group never picked up back in the day.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
She was given the job of breaking down a pristine, archived copy for scanning and cleaning up. Not sure she championed it though.

Having copies of Compendium and Compilation, in terms of historical interest they’re just not the same as RT and the two RoC books.

Waaaargh! The Orks! absolutely is,

My understanding was that it was her idea in the first place and she had to lobby management and leadership to get permission to do it.


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I thought Book of the Astronomican was the Compendium?

The Compendium was iconic.

chaos0xomega wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
She was given the job of breaking down a pristine, archived copy for scanning and cleaning up. Not sure she championed it though.

Having copies of Compendium and Compilation, in terms of historical interest they’re just not the same as RT and the two RoC books.

Waaaargh! The Orks! absolutely is,

My understanding was that it was her idea in the first place and she had to lobby management and leadership to get permission to do it.


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I thought Book of the Astronomican was the Compendium?

Compendium and Compilation are White Dwarf content collections. Book of Astronomicon is separate, that's the first Chapter Approved. All three are great.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
She was given the job of breaking down a pristine, archived copy for scanning and cleaning up. Not sure she championed it though.

Having copies of Compendium and Compilation, in terms of historical interest they’re just not the same as RT and the two RoC books.

Waaaargh! The Orks! absolutely is,

Freebooterz has some pretty good stuff too.
Chaos Corrupted and Genestealer Tainted Orks anyone?

My two copies (one for the bookshelf of fame, the other to paw over) have been despatched.

I'm guessing they are using stocks from Warhammer World to fulfill initial orders and going MTO for the remainder.

So I'm glad to be getting them long before the expected 180 days, but would suck for those making the real-world visit to find they are not available to buy because they have been rerouted to mail orders

Maybe the data counters have figured out the sell-rate onsite was sufficiently slowed ?

180 day is their "get out of jail" card. They can't know for sure demand so better put worst case scenario as better to say 180 day and deliver sooner than say 90 days and deliver in 110 days.

180 day is not to be expected

tneva82 wrote:
180 day is their "get out of jail" card. They can't know for sure demand so better put worst case scenario as better to say 180 day and deliver sooner than say 90 days and deliver in 110 days.

180 day is not to be expected

Gotcha - thanks for the heads up - I've really only 1 previous MTO experience (the recent Warhammer Quest Cursed City cardboard expansions), and it was almost to the day of 180 days until they arrived.

Maybe I'll be a little bit less cautious in future MTOs now!

Did you actually get a tracking number?

 Prometheum5 wrote:
Did you actually get a tracking number?

Yeah, it is due to arrive tomorrow.

Well technically, I got a link with a GUID that goes to NShift Portal and lists UPS as the courier. I've not seen an ID that I can paste into the UPS site ... so it could all be a cruel joke, but I am still optimistic I'll have the books tomorrow

EDIT: I have a separate email from UPS confirming a trackable delivery for tomorrow - YAYYYYYYYY

Warhammer World today...

I picked up Rogue Trader and both Realm of Chaos books

 dreadblade wrote:
Warhammer World today...

I picked up Rogue Trader and both Realm of Chaos books

Nifty.

I ordered from the US website, so I'll probably have to wait until the actual printing, or if GW decides to just ship over a big pile of them to the US from their stock.

Hmm hope they do MTOs on those other books too

 dreadblade wrote:
Warhammer World today...

I picked up Rogue Trader and both Realm of Chaos books

Does Lost and the Damned have a lower sticker price than Slaves to Darkness there? It's a way bigger book!

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 dreadblade wrote:
Warhammer World today...

I picked up Rogue Trader and both Realm of Chaos books

Does Lost and the Damned have a lower sticker price than Slaves to Darkness there? It's a way bigger book!

Oddly it does - £40 for Slaves to Darkness and £37.50 for Lost and the Damned. It's not much bigger though, maybe 10 pages? Externally both books appear to be the same thickness.

I would pay good money to get a copy of each of the Chaos books. Are they still available at Warhammer World? Anyone willing to pick up some copies for me? Please, please, pretty please?

 Insectum7 wrote:
I would pay good money to get a copy of each of the Chaos books. Are they still available at Warhammer World? Anyone willing to pick up some copies for me? Please, please, pretty please?

They are quite heavy and shipping from them from the UK to the states for the two is almost prohibitively expensive.

 Ahtman wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:
I would pay good money to get a copy of each of the Chaos books. Are they still available at Warhammer World? Anyone willing to pick up some copies for me? Please, please, pretty please?

They are quite heavy and shipping from them from the UK to the states for the two is almost prohibitively expensive.

But is it more money in total than what they're charging on ebay for them?

 dreadblade wrote:
Warhammer World today...

I can't make out the price on the command tank kit. How much is it?

What other WHW exclusives are there at the moment, aside from the pictured books?

 SgtEeveell wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
.

Having copies of Compendium and Compilation, in terms of historical interest they’re just not the same as RT and the two RoC books.

Waaaargh! The Orks! absolutely is,

Freebooterz has some pretty good stuff too.
Chaos Corrupted and Genestealer Tainted Orks anyone?

Mmm. I wouldn't say 'Ere We Go/Freebooterz quite rise to the iconic level of Realm of Chaos, but they are so, so rich and also some of the most entertainingly readable gaming material I can remember. (A bit more so than Waaaargh! by my recollection but I never owned the latter and it is a very old recollection.) I still have them, but I cut the cards out of the back of EWG so those have gone and I'd certainly be in the market for a reprint.

Waaargh! is purely background for the Orkses, and is a wonderful read!

‘Ere We Go and Feebooterz cover the rules, including Clan variants. There is some extra background, particularly for weirder units in Freebooterz.

Got a shipping notification today, so that's good!

Still no sign of that Skyshield Landing Platform I ordered way before RT MTO though..

 Snrub wrote:

 dreadblade wrote:
Warhammer World today...

I can't make out the price on the command tank kit. How much is it?

What other WHW exclusives are there at the moment, aside from the pictured books?

The Space Marine HQ Command Tanks were £85 I think.

Other stuff included the original Imperial Land Speeder, an exclusive Imperial Knight head, Warhammer World Dioramas book, various artwork pieces and other merchandise.

 Insectum7 wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:
I would pay good money to get a copy of each of the Chaos books. Are they still available at Warhammer World? Anyone willing to pick up some copies for me? Please, please, pretty please?

They are quite heavy and shipping from them from the UK to the states for the two is almost prohibitively expensive.

But is it more money in total than what they're charging on ebay for them?

No idea what they are charging on ebay so they might be, might not be. I talked to someone in the UK about it once and when they looked into shipping they just laughed and laughed and we just dropped the idea for the time being.

Also available from the Warhammer Cafes.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
If they’re in stock there. It’s touch and go!

My current copy is indeed soft back. And I’ve absolutely no idea when that version was first released.

I may order the print to order myself. Hardback is just prettier unto my idiot eyes. And practicing what I preach? It’s nice to have a copy I can peruse without overly worrying about preservation.

If memory serves, the first print was the softback. Or at least it's the first one I ever saw.

The first printings versions were hardcover. Softcovers were later reprints - I never saw them until quite some time later.

 dreadblade wrote:
The Space Marine HQ Command Tanks were £85 I think.

Other stuff included the original Imperial Land Speeder, an exclusive Imperial Knight head, Warhammer World Dioramas book, various artwork pieces and other merchandise.

Ta! I'm assuming (certainly hoping) that at that price, you actually get a land raider and rhino kit as well as the upgrade bitz.

 Snrub wrote:

 dreadblade wrote:
The Space Marine HQ Command Tanks were £85 I think.

Other stuff included the original Imperial Land Speeder, an exclusive Imperial Knight head, Warhammer World Dioramas book, various artwork pieces and other merchandise.

Ta! I'm assuming (certainly hoping) that at that price, you actually get a land raider and rhino kit as well as the upgrade bitz.

It is the land raider, rhino, and command sprue to upgrade both. I don’t think it has the older command sprue that has bits for all the armies.

Smaug wrote:
It is the land raider, rhino, and command sprue to upgrade both. I don’t think it has the older command sprue that has bits for all the armies.

Great, that makes them a bit more worth while.

Sod it, ordered a copy. Nice hardback with modern binding to preserve my vintage copy.

Also, I figure the more they sell, perhaps the more inclined they’ll be to do MTO for the other books.

Maybe one day we can get them to re-release the original Land Raider and Rhino/Predator plastic kits!

(and no, I don't mean the Proteus & Deimos modern kits - I mean the truly original ones).

 Stormonu wrote:
Maybe one day we can get them to re-release the original Land Raider and Rhino/Predator plastic kits!

(and no, I don't mean the Proteus & Deimos modern kits - I mean the truly original ones).

The Land Raider mold was broken for several years even before they made the second version.

Wait what? Really?

Well….allegedly.

I’m not sure exactly when it was retired from sale, but I don’t recall it being sold during 2nd Ed, at all. But it was seen in what I’d call 2nd Ed Packaging (blue border, photo of painted model rather than art work)

The why may be GW urban legend. Certainly costly as they are, I can’t see GW only ever having the one mould,

There's definitely an early 2nd ed box version that was sold at one point. I've seen it on ebay at least once.

I'm inclined to believe the hypothesis of the molds being broken/lost. There's a big enough gap between the start of 2nd and the next LR model released for 3rd that it would've been leaving money behind to not sell the thing consistently until the new version was released.

My other guess would be that GW expected the new LR to be ready to ship earlier and cut production of the RT version in anticipation.

 Stormonu wrote:
Maybe one day we can get them to re-release the original Land Raider and Rhino/Predator plastic kits!

(and no, I don't mean the Proteus & Deimos modern kits - I mean the truly original ones).

I sure hope not. I've got some of the originals, and they're pretty bad kits.

You could almost scratchbuild an og plastic Rhino, the design was so barebones.. Personally I consider the 2022 Proteus Land Raider to be the best rendition of that particular vehicle in terms of detail and proportions, only the sponson mounts arent faithful to the og design. But I can understand why someone would lust after the og Rhinos, those things were even more brutalist looking that the modern Deimos kit, and that old brutalist look feels more like an STC design of a vehicle that can be built using almost any available raw materials..

The OG Landraider also had issues, like the weapons being very easily broken.

The Proteus is a solid update which pretty much resolves all the issues. As it should what, 35ish years on?

Yep, the sponsons broke on my RT Land Raider

Yeah, my sponsons broke on my OG Land Raider as well, multiple times - they’re now held in place with metal rods. And the Pintle mounts have broken as well.

Even so, I’d like to get my hands on a fresh-out-of-the-box new one, as I made the mistake of painting my original as Ultramarines, and my army has long morphed to Dark Angels.

And I don’t want to sell my firstborn for it - his girlfriend would miss him.

You could rent him out?

No, no wait. That’s so much worse.

Stormonu wrote:Yeah, my sponsons broke on my OG Land Raider as well, multiple times - they’re now held in place with metal rods. And the Pintle mounts have broken as well.

Even so, I’d like to get my hands on a fresh-out-of-the-box new one, as I made the mistake of painting my original as Ultramarines, and my army has long morphed to Dark Angels.

And I don’t want to sell my firstborn for it - his girlfriend would miss him.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:You could rent him out?

No, no wait. That’s so much worse.

Sell the firstborn and his girlfriend, get 2 tanks.

Easy!

 Nevelon wrote:

Stormonu wrote:Yeah, my sponsons broke on my OG Land Raider as well, multiple times - they’re now held in place with metal rods. And the Pintle mounts have broken as well.

Even so, I’d like to get my hands on a fresh-out-of-the-box new one, as I made the mistake of painting my original as Ultramarines, and my army has long morphed to Dark Angels.

And I don’t want to sell my firstborn for it - his girlfriend would miss him.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:You could rent him out?

No, no wait. That’s so much worse.

Sell the firstborn and his girlfriend, get 2 tanks.

Easy!

Woot! I think we have a winner!

/jk - If I sold him, I wouldn’t have anyone to play against…

The thing I miss on the new ‘old’ rhino is the handrails.

MarkNorfolk wrote:
The thing I miss on the new ‘old’ rhino is the handrails.

Zinge made a handrail kit for the FW resin deimos rhino's - might fit the plastic ones too?

EDIT:
https://www.zinge.co.uk/collections/vehicles/products/rhino-upgrade-conversion-kit-with-handles

MarkNorfolk wrote:
The thing I miss on the new ‘old’ rhino is the handrails.

While the handrails added a nice sense of scale to the model, they were super brittle. I don't think I've ever seen a model with intact rails on both sides! If I was to remake to og kit, I'd make sure those rails would be some sort of metal or at least brass..

 tauist wrote:

MarkNorfolk wrote:
The thing I miss on the new ‘old’ rhino is the handrails.

While the handrails added a nice sense of scale to the model, they were super brittle. I don't think I've ever seen a model with intact rails on both sides! If I was to remake to og kit, I'd make sure those rails would be some sort of metal or at least brass..

…and the top hatch handles, and the rear antennae, and the tiny curved tops of the four exhaust stacks... It was a brittle kit made from brittle plastic.

Mine are mostly still intact, having survived several moves. For any broken exhausts, I cut up a small hollow styrene tube as a replacement bit.

The Zinge hand rails look more sturdy, and it looks like you could swap in a brass rod for the central rail piece.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
... but I don’t recall it being sold during 2nd Ed, at all. But it was seen in what I’d call 2nd Ed Packaging (blue border, photo of painted model rather than art work).

It was. I still have that box. It vanished pretty quickly during 2nd Ed though, and never returned.

Had to wait 'til after Epic 40,000 came out before we saw the new Land Raider.

 dreadblade wrote:
Yep, the sponsons broke on my RT Land Raider

Mine too. They're glued in place permanently now.

And both the handrails on my original Rhino are broken too.

 Nicky J wrote:

MarkNorfolk wrote:
The thing I miss on the new ‘old’ rhino is the handrails.

Zinge made a handrail kit for the FW resin deimos rhino's - might fit the plastic ones too?

EDIT:
https://www.zinge.co.uk/collections/vehicles/products/rhino-upgrade-conversion-kit-with-handles

Problem with those rails is the fact that they are quite thick compared to the original ones. Now I totally understand why they did that (gameworthy!), but them being that thick doesn't empahsize the scale of the model as well as the original bits did.

I remember using those old Rhino handrails on the crew platforms of the original DE Raider so that I could actually put models on the Raider when the troops embarked (the Warrior bases slid right under the rail and that kept the models from falling off).

Ahh the side bars! Yes, Imo it was an important feature to the aesthetic of the chassis. I added some to my Rhinos (this was before the Diemos came out), in addition to the running board, to add some of the OG look.

The fist ones I did were in brass, but it turned out that the paint had trouble sticking to it very well, even after primer. I went back and upgraded them to some product that was metal on the inside (I think steel, because they respond to magnets), but with a rubbery-plastic coating that the paint adheres to much nicer.

Have any of these been delivered recently, or was it just the first few that came straight away?

The RT book I bought from Warhammer World turned out to be slightly damaged when I unwrapped it at home. When I emailed photos and asked for a replacement they did a Print to Order order for me, rather than sending a replacement. I've actually done a pretty good repair on the one I have because they said they didn't want it back, but I would have expected a replacement to be sent direct from Warhammer World. Seems a strange attempt at customer service for a damaged item bought in-store.

I think some got sent out (probably totally emptying their stock), the rest will be made to order (they never seem to have much stock given how frequently warhammer world runs out for months at a time)

Yep Made to Order stuff like that will likely have had a bunch of stock on hand and then the rest will take their time. Right now I'd not expect to see them till the other side of Christmas.

I'm assuming I'm not getting mine until much closer to the 180 day mark...

I ordered mine in the magic window of the old web store where orders are disappeared. I've emailed about it and they're adamant it's still going ahead but I'm less sure. Only time will tell I guess.

Ditto. I placed mine during the period just before the new webstore came into effect. I've been told that it's going ahead but won't show in my order history until it's dispatched. I feel like that should be an easy fix to get up on their site but given it keeps asking me what country I live in each time....classic Administratum.

Made to Order items may see a hidden extra 60 days tacked on, it's happened to my Gaunts Ghosts books order, which was originally a 120 day waiting time, but has been bumped up to 180 now after I got in touch with GW. In my case they claimed to not have printed up enough books.

Good News, everyone!
I just got a shipment notification for my order. Looks like they didn't lose it after all.

Oh, mine has been in the archive for weeks already. Perhaps the rest of the MTO stock is starting to move finally?

I've not had confirmation for mine being sent yet - most likely they are doing it in waves.

I haven't heard anything yet either, but good to hear it's moving a bit?

 Olthannon wrote:
I haven't heard anything yet either, but good to hear it's moving a bit?

I recall at least one other made to order fulfilled overseas first. It might be GW does overseas on them first since in theory they would have the longest lead times (since the item has to arrive or be made at GW and then sent overseas in bulk shipments). So get those sorted first then deal with the domestic ones.

 Olthannon wrote:
I haven't heard anything yet either, but good to hear it's moving a bit?

Well, and as I said, that they didn't lose it.
Since I made my order just before GW ruined the web store, and it doesn't show up in my order history, even though they answered my inquiry, "Trust us, bro. We didn't lose it."

Same for me on the switchover. Still got my vintage soft back, but was thinking about this today as I moved bookcases around.

Ordered two copies. One arrived immediately, the other was ordered in the last days of the old web store... no sign of that one yet.

Still not reflected anywhere in my account. Shrug.

Woohoo! Got my ship notice email for my Rogue Trader!

I received notification mine shipped. I ordered my copy about 15 minutes after it went online. 16 year old me is super happy this year with both RT and The Old World Bretonians.

 SgtEeveell wrote:

 Olthannon wrote:
I haven't heard anything yet either, but good to hear it's moving a bit?

Well, and as I said, that they didn't lose it.
Since I made my order just before GW ruined the web store, and it doesn't show up in my order history, even though they answered my inquiry, "Trust us, bro. We didn't lose it."

Gee no surprise there. They didn't lose it.

Im surprised people are still waiting for this? I got my copy within a couple weeks of ordering?

chaos0xomega wrote:
Im surprised people are still waiting for this? I got my copy within a couple weeks of ordering?

It's a book GW have had on shelf for a while at Warhammer Worlds. So I think an initial wave went out right then and since then they've been doing waves of releases. It's not uncommon for some made to order. Though oftne with books they just do one big order.

Just got my shipping notice, too. Still waiting on my terrain MTO, though.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Im surprised people are still waiting for this? I got my copy within a couple weeks of ordering?

Lucky you. Still waiting for a notification on mine.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Im surprised people are still waiting for this? I got my copy within a couple weeks of ordering?

Ordered 14th October 2023. Still waiting.
There's still nothing to show I ordered it on GW's order history.

Still have an email receipt though.

Still waiting and still nothing in the order history. GW confirms the order when I email them so I guess they have it but won't/can't show it on their website for some reason.

Just got my ship notice as well.

I was in the same boat as a lot of folks. Ordered under old system; no-show in new system.

I ordered under the old website and my order didn't show up when they changed over. Sometime later (not sure when) I noticed This order under My orders. After seeing this thread on Friday I went to GW to check but no change since the last time I saw it. On Saturday I get my ship notice. Should be here Thursday.


Cooincidence.....


Yes, probably. But at least I'm getting my stuff.

Mine showed up a couple days ago. Books look great. Here's hoping they do Realms of Chaos next.

Just got my shipping notice for the Rogue Trader book + Votann special character.

I'm in East TN, USA, so maybe the trip from Memphis won't take too long.

Mine's in Virginia according to the tracking portal and on the way to me in Jersey. Huzzah!

NY here, got my shipping info today as well!

Yay! Just got notification mine is shipping!

 Taarnak wrote:
Mine showed up a couple days ago. Books look great. Here's hoping they do Realms of Chaos next.

From your mouth to the Emperor's ears.

If I’m going to post that I haven’t heard anything, I feel I should also post when I get the email. Got the tracking email this morning. Very relieved.

Well, it's here. And thicker than I remembered. It's also enough taller than the WH40K 10ed and WH:TOW books that it won't fit in my bookshelves.

 SgtEeveell wrote:
Well, it's here. And thicker than I remembered. It's also enough taller than the WH40K 10ed and WH:TOW books that it won't fit in my bookshelves.

Yeah, mine showed up yesterday. I don't remember the pages in the original being glossy. And as you, the taller profile won't let it fit on my shelf.

But it was great to thumb through.

Mine was ordered on the old site and showed up yesterday. I'm in California, btw.

The modern printing shows some issues with printing light blue and red over black, and the army/battle photos are a little dark too. I'm surprised they didn't do anything to address that.

Still, I'm quite happy with it.

Is it just me, or is it only peeps in the US getting their MTO?

Got mine two days ago. Woot!

Mine showed up on Wednesday, it's super duper nice.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Is it just me, or is it only peeps in the US getting their MTO?

Certainly seems that way. I wonder if two ships were carrying them one went straight to the USA, and we're still waiting for the UK one.

I received mine yesterday. It had a note that said "Don't tell Mad Doc Grotsnik"

*gaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssp*

Those children born outside of wedlock!

I have not merely clutched my pearls. I have crushed them. Crushed them

Got mine this last week.

Yeah, mine showed up a few days ago, too.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

Certainly seems that way. I wonder if two ships were carrying them one went straight to the USA, and we're still waiting for the UK one.

If they were printed in China it's likely a shipment went east across the pacific to the US, while the UK ones are going the long way round Africa rather than risking going past Yemen at the moment.

It's taking a sodding long time if it did go the long way. Was it a sailing vessel?

pgmason wrote:

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

Certainly seems that way. I wonder if two ships were carrying them one went straight to the USA, and we're still waiting for the UK one.

If they were printed in China it's likely a shipment went east across the pacific to the US, while the UK ones are going the long way round Africa rather than risking going past Yemen at the moment.

Dunno if anyone has checked their copy, but it’s not out the realms of possibility they used a US printer.

Or potentially GW are capped on how much paper they can order in one month from their printers overseas. So the RT is being done in waves around other orders. Hence why the US is getting its supply but the UK hasn't .

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


Dunno if anyone has checked their copy, but it’s not out the realms of possibility they used a US printer.

New Yorker here. Got mine yesterday and it says “Printed in China.” Unsurprising since the U.S. printing industry was decimated two decades ago.

Edit: I’m using the modern “decimated” and not the older, more
literal definition “reduced by one tenth.”

KS shipping from china generally takes 2 weeks longer for ships going to the US compared to those coming to Europe, so adding the extra detour round Africa will probably add a week more to that

Going south around the Cape puts you closer to the US than to Europe. It's pretty much a straight shot to the SE coast.

 The Power Cosmic wrote:
Mine was ordered on the old site and showed up yesterday. I'm in California, btw.

The modern printing shows some issues with printing light blue and red over black, and the army/battle photos are a little dark too. I'm surprised they didn't do anything to address that.

Still, I'm quite happy with it.

Good eye. The images have lost a bit in the process. There's some compression and loss of mid-tones that results in a little muddiness. It's less noticeable in the b&w images, but it's still there. The book still looks good, but I wouldn't call this a great printing.

Hope they do a run of the 2nd edition books, but not holding my breath.

Eh, other than Sisters of Battle and maybe Angels of Death there's nothing super expensive from the 2E books, and even those two don't come close to what a nice vintage Rogue Trader costs. I don't think there's the market to loop back around into further editions. Even the RT Ork books are cool but probably not as worth doing as the two Realm of Chaos books were.

 Fugazi wrote:

 The Power Cosmic wrote:
Mine was ordered on the old site and showed up yesterday. I'm in California, btw.

The modern printing shows some issues with printing light blue and red over black, and the army/battle photos are a little dark too. I'm surprised they didn't do anything to address that.

Still, I'm quite happy with it.

Good eye. The images have lost a bit in the process. There's some compression and loss of mid-tones that results in a little muddiness. It's less noticeable in the b&w images, but it's still there. The book still looks good, but I wouldn't call this a great printing.

Hope they do a run of the 2nd edition books, but not holding my breath.

I really dont recall thinking the original softback was of superb printing quality either. Perhaps all the original flaws are just presented as they always were?

 tauist wrote:

 Fugazi wrote:

 The Power Cosmic wrote:
Mine was ordered on the old site and showed up yesterday. I'm in California, btw.

The modern printing shows some issues with printing light blue and red over black, and the army/battle photos are a little dark too. I'm surprised they didn't do anything to address that.

Still, I'm quite happy with it.

Good eye. The images have lost a bit in the process. There's some compression and loss of mid-tones that results in a little muddiness. It's less noticeable in the b&w images, but it's still there. The book still looks good, but I wouldn't call this a great printing.

Hope they do a run of the 2nd edition books, but not holding my breath.

I really dont recall thinking the original softback was of superb printing quality either. Perhaps all the original flaws are just presented as they always were?

I looked at the reprint side by side with the original softback. Original was better. (We're not talking huge degrees here, and to an untrained eye, the reprint is perfectly fine.)

 Fugazi wrote:


Hope they do a run of the 2nd edition books, but not holding my breath.

Honestly, I would pay good money just for a high quality digital version. Same for the RT stuff. It kind of seems silly that this kind of thing isn't available from them already, it would be a good avenue to make a few quick bucks.

 Zethnar wrote:

 Fugazi wrote:


Hope they do a run of the 2nd edition books, but not holding my breath.

Honestly, I would pay good money just for a high quality digital version. Same for the RT stuff. It kind of seems silly that this kind of thing isn't available from them already, it would be a good avenue to make a few quick bucks.

Those, uh, certainly exist. GW sure isn't gonna go back and make modern-formatted ePubs or anything so scans are as good as you're gonna get.

I'd rather they reprint the Warhammer 40K Compendium.

 Fugazi wrote:

 tauist wrote:

 Fugazi wrote:

 The Power Cosmic wrote:
Mine was ordered on the old site and showed up yesterday. I'm in California, btw.

The modern printing shows some issues with printing light blue and red over black, and the army/battle photos are a little dark too. I'm surprised they didn't do anything to address that.

Still, I'm quite happy with it.

Good eye. The images have lost a bit in the process. There's some compression and loss of mid-tones that results in a little muddiness. It's less noticeable in the b&w images, but it's still there. The book still looks good, but I wouldn't call this a great printing.

Hope they do a run of the 2nd edition books, but not holding my breath.

I really dont recall thinking the original softback was of superb printing quality either. Perhaps all the original flaws are just presented as they always were?

I looked at the reprint side by side with the original softback. Original was better. (We're not talking huge degrees here, and to an untrained eye, the reprint is perfectly fine.)

I see, thanks for the clarification! The pictures (photographs) on that book always feel very blurry in my memories, so no particular loss there, but it sucks if the drawn illustrations look noticeably worse. I will never know for myself, as I will not be opening the shrinkwrapping on my copy

Enjoy your expensive coaster I guess?

Sing Hoasannas!

My copy is on the way. Oh joy, oh rapture!

Mine just arrived in the UK. If you recall it was a replacement for one I bought at Warhammer World with a damaged corner. Not sure if that got me to the front of the queue or not?

It didn't appear in my orders on the online Warhammer Shop, either before or now, but again, perhaps that's because I didn't actually pay for it.

Anyway, it looks like a new batch of Print to Order copies have arrived in the UK.

 tauist wrote:

 Fugazi wrote:

 tauist wrote:

 Fugazi wrote:

 The Power Cosmic wrote:
Mine was ordered on the old site and showed up yesterday. I'm in California, btw.

The modern printing shows some issues with printing light blue and red over black, and the army/battle photos are a little dark too. I'm surprised they didn't do anything to address that.

Still, I'm quite happy with it.

Good eye. The images have lost a bit in the process. There's some compression and loss of mid-tones that results in a little muddiness. It's less noticeable in the b&w images, but it's still there. The book still looks good, but I wouldn't call this a great printing.

Hope they do a run of the 2nd edition books, but not holding my breath.

I really dont recall thinking the original softback was of superb printing quality either. Perhaps all the original flaws are just presented as they always were?

I looked at the reprint side by side with the original softback. Original was better. (We're not talking huge degrees here, and to an untrained eye, the reprint is perfectly fine.)

I see, thanks for the clarification! The pictures (photographs) on that book always feel very blurry in my memories, so no particular loss there, but it sucks if the drawn illustrations look noticeably worse. I will never know for myself, as I will not be opening the shrinkwrapping on my copy

It looks perfectly fine. The line art is great, and the photos are good enough.
Open that baby up and read it. A random reprint of some obscure nearly 40 year old game manual isn't going to have any collector's value.

I'd imagine mint copies will sell for a reasonable amount once this Print to Order run is history. The Realm of Chaos books sell for about double RRP. Still, I'd open it and enjoy it

Add me to the "got a shipping notice finally" club.

 Prometheum5 wrote:

 Zethnar wrote:


Honestly, I would pay good money just for a high quality digital version. Same for the RT stuff. It kind of seems silly that this kind of thing isn't available from them already, it would be a good avenue to make a few quick bucks.

Those, uh, certainly exist. GW sure isn't gonna go back and make modern-formatted ePubs or anything so scans are as good as you're gonna get.

Some of the available stuff isn't particularly great quality. It would be nice if we could get some really nice high quality scans from the source which we could print off etc.

 SgtEeveell wrote:

 tauist wrote:

 Fugazi wrote:

 tauist wrote:

 Fugazi wrote:

 The Power Cosmic wrote:
Mine was ordered on the old site and showed up yesterday. I'm in California, btw.

The modern printing shows some issues with printing light blue and red over black, and the army/battle photos are a little dark too. I'm surprised they didn't do anything to address that.

Still, I'm quite happy with it.

Good eye. The images have lost a bit in the process. There's some compression and loss of mid-tones that results in a little muddiness. It's less noticeable in the b&w images, but it's still there. The book still looks good, but I wouldn't call this a great printing.

Hope they do a run of the 2nd edition books, but not holding my breath.

I really dont recall thinking the original softback was of superb printing quality either. Perhaps all the original flaws are just presented as they always were?

I looked at the reprint side by side with the original softback. Original was better. (We're not talking huge degrees here, and to an untrained eye, the reprint is perfectly fine.)

I see, thanks for the clarification! The pictures (photographs) on that book always feel very blurry in my memories, so no particular loss there, but it sucks if the drawn illustrations look noticeably worse. I will never know for myself, as I will not be opening the shrinkwrapping on my copy

It looks perfectly fine. The line art is great, and the photos are good enough.
Open that baby up and read it. A random reprint of some obscure nearly 40 year old game manual isn't going to have any collector's value.

I will keep on using my original softback and the scans I have of it, thanks. I want my hardback copy to remain sealed in the family vault for the coming generations. If you cannot respect that, I dont know what to tell you

Well I don't have a shipping notification





I have a parcel with a book inside it!!

 Overread wrote:
Well I don't have a shipping notification





I have a parcel with a book inside it!!

#jealous

Sitting here with neither still.
No sign of the order I made on the 14th Oct in the order history either.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Well I don't have a shipping notification





I have a parcel with a book inside it!!

#jealous

Sitting here with neither still.
No sign of the order I made on the 14th Oct in the order history either.

Unless it's turned up today while I'm at work, same here.

Got mine today.

It's wild to reach about leech genestealers; hermaphrodite hive tyrants and ginger gyrinx!

Completely missed the order date, was bummed.

Then local store got several in, snagged one. Did not have the original so has been an interesting read.

Got my shipping notification, but the other book I ordered along with it (da gobbo Rides Again) won't be coming despite 3 emails asking and then confirming it was definitely ok to ship with my MTO book -_-

I've been lurking and following this forum for a long time, but I registered to let anyone in Ireland know I got my shipping notification this morning for this too!

Hauk wrote:
I've been lurking and following this forum for a long time, but I registered to let anyone in Ireland know I got my shipping notification this morning for this too!

That's good to know. I haven't gotten a notification yet and this "we don't show your order on your account until we deliver it" malarkey makes me a bit anxious.

No notification, or order history, but it arrived today!
Whoohoo.

On the other hand, GW's use of packaging could be a little greener.

Packed safely with lots of paper tubes, but I'm sure a smaller box would have done.

Finally received my order notifications for my various bits.

I got the shipping notification Friday night.

 Bonegrinder wrote:

Hauk wrote:
I've been lurking and following this forum for a long time, but I registered to let anyone in Ireland know I got my shipping notification this morning for this too!

That's good to know. I haven't gotten a notification yet and this "we don't show your order on your account until we deliver it" malarkey makes me a bit anxious.

I was in the same boat but got my shipping notification yesterday. So they do appear to have the orders even if they are not visible in the webstore.

Got a shipping notification via email, it will be here by Wednesday. Can't wait to get my hands on it and start reading, scrolling through a PDF on my PC just isn't nearly as enjoyable.