2 dreadnoughts DA with1 with a plasma Cannon 1 with a twin linked autocannon 250

2 exorcist missile launchers 270

2x Hammerhead with disruption pods, railguns and burst cannons. 310 IIRC

Deathwing command squad with Banner and Apothecary with 5 TH/SS and CML. 290

3x Ravager: 315

3 Exorcist- 390

Ooh, pretty nasty
Still, not so bad really. 2x 5 Hammernators: 400. DS in then hammering time!

6x Earthshakers in 3 teams of 2 450

3 Vindicare Obsessions. Infiltrate into range then unleash vindicare hell. 435

So many options.


3 Broods of 30 Termagants 450

That's 90 models bro. And you kill 3 per turn.

I think I'll bring back my Earthshakers for that then.

450

2 Stormravens with Multimeltas, Lascannons and Hurricaine Bolters 460

3 more exorcists 405

I can see a loop. meh, 2x 5 hammernators. 400

2x 2x Medusa Siege Gun 400

3x Ravager: 315

Hydras. two squads of two = 300 points.

this guy and his anti skimmer policy will bring back the exorcist
2 of em 270

8 Hammernaters. 320

TAU MANTA

oh wait can't do that

3 ravagers with disintegrators 315

4 Hydras 300pts

3 Dakkajets with Extra Supa Shoota and Fighta Ace - 390


Bit of a points shuffle but it needed boosting.

Ah Ninja'd. Enough of the Hydras they're getting old. Can't wait for 6th ed so more can have Skyfire!

The hydras are our own in joke now. @ Hydras, 5 terminators, 200 points. Not TH/SS mind you.

2x Medusa Siege Gun 200

Bobthehero wrote:2x Medusa Siege Gun 200

uh...2 medusa's are more than 200....

Not with the Death Korps rules

Well whatever the case, broadsides are 70 meaning I can get 3 for 210pts, easily enough to take down a few tanks

Sorry, double post

p_gray99 wrote:Well whatever the case, broadsides are 70 meaning I can get 3 for 210pts, easily enough to take down a few tanks

Should probably drop to two to get that invulnerable save drone, if the medusas get the drop first they ignore your armor, wound on 2+, and ID you.

Yeah, but I'm gonna be in cover and be in 3 separate squads. That means I'm killing at least one on my first turn, and you'd better be lucky at hitting me to beat me.

Meh. 2 Broadsides with shields generators and 2 shield drones each. 220.

Vindicare assassin. Something about being able to pick his targets... 145.

Not to mention that you can just decide to destroy my invun. Well done, I've got nuthin that can destroy it, unless you want to go straight to combat?

Calidus Temple Assassin- 140'ish (Havent taken her in forever)

Vindicare-Obsession wrote:Calidus Temple Assassin- 140'ish (Havent taken her in forever)

ogryn squad 130

DKoK Grenadier Flaming squad, 2x flamers, 1x heavy flamer 115 pts.

Its a 5 men squad.

Huh. Don't see that beating ogryn, but whatever. Leman russ (because you're all sick of Hydras) 150.

liquidjoshi wrote:Huh. Don't see that beating ogryn, but whatever. Leman russ (because you're all sick of Hydras) 150.

Twin broadsides 140

18 Orks with PK nob: 143.

9 Immortals with Tesla Carbines 153pts

2 Venoms with extra splinter cannons and night shields: 150

I dare you to post a horde or a monsterous creature against that.

1 Heavy Destroyer 60
1 Heavy Destroyer 60
120pts

But they're jetbikes! You're meant to try and destroy me with hordes or monsterous creatures!

Oh well, I'm back at the orks: 18 with PK nob 143 to keep the points up.

Actually they are JI
And I'm back to 9 Immortals with Tesla Carbines 153pts

Fine, be that way. Leman Russ: 150

Fine, be that way
Doom Scythe, 175 pts

Fine, Stormtalon with Skyhammer Missile Launcher- 155

Fine, 2 Hydras
150 IIRC

Fine be that way
10 scarabs, 150

Be that way, Hammerhead with disruption pods, multi-tracker, railgun + burst cannons, 165. How do you like large blasts?

Vindicare Assassin 145

How do you.like dem apples?

Deadshot wrote:Vindicare Assassin 145

How do you.like dem apples?

Enemy at the gates Vindicare Assassin 145

Ogryn? UUUUUUHHHHH 130 IIRC for three.

How can 3 ogryns be 130? 130 doesn't divide by 3!

Bonehead is more expensive I'd say
4 wraiths, 140pts

Oh, and we should officially start using 6th rules as the guys in NZ already have their copies, and us guys in Aus either already have them (for the stores that opened at midnight) or are about to get them in the next 2 hrs (for those who's stores are opening at 8

I don't have one

A couple of pages ago I suggested we leave the thread for a few weeks so people could get a chance to purchase and learn the new ruleset. And then after that the thread switches to total 6th ed.

Yeah, I agree. This thread should be considered blocked for at least a week.

4 Broadsides 180

Five days does not equal a week Dreadlord.

That, and 4 broadsides are still 280. Rather big difference. And I'd reccomend restarting with the tactical squad when it comes back online.

Oops, sorry with the math, and time is a paradox when I'm concerned cuz taeentch is my best bud.

p_gray99 wrote:That, and 4 broadsides are still 280. Rather big difference. And I'd reccomend restarting with the tactical squad when it comes back online.

I'd agree with this and Dreadlord you need to learn what a paradox is before using it in a sentence.

I no what a paradox is

The math bit was a stupid error

So, now that we have had a bit more than a week to buy a rulebook,

10 Man Tactical Squad with Meltagun and Missile Launcher -180
to start again

5 man squad of dark reapers with exarch+ Tempest launcher and fast shot- 225

Mawloc with Regeneration 195

TftD FTW

1 sqaud of 10 gk's 200

1 Squad of 4 Paladins with Halberds 220

IIRC NFWs are Unusual force weapons.so the Halberds are AP3 but not Int1.

1 squad of 5 deathwing terminators with TH/SS one with a cyclone missile launcher.

Pts about 250?

3 Nob Bikers with Power Klaws and Waaagh Banner 225

Bike's extra Toughness no longer affects ID.

Or to be clear, it does now effect ID

are we banning fliers?
2 wraithlords 180

Not that I know of.

Stormraven with Multimelta and Lascannon 200

we shoud have fine if you get fliers i get fortifications.

fortress of redemption 220 pts

I feel like an empty fortress of redemption dosent hold up to much

back to the wraithlords
180

Back to the Raven 200

Belial with TH/SS operating an icarus lascannon behind an aegis defense line 215 pts .

Chapter Master on Bike with Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield 195

You can't ID me. I can zoom up, fire Bolter wait out the possible 1 Lascannon wound. Then use Orbital Bombardment in the hope of rolling 1 or 2 and then Charge. I can ID you but you can't me due to having T5.

doo scte, oe dred ad sevet five poits, if o ca derstad keboard...

Doom scythe at 75 pts, I think.

close 1 sevet 5
seve btto wo't work....
at keboard...

Alright, 175 pts, Doom Scythe.

yes
Hey, look, no mess ups (using another keyboard)

2 Aegis Defense Lines with Quad Guns 200

1 Vindicare Obsession 145

Vindicare-Obsession wrote:1 Vindicare Obsession 145

?
Do you mean assassin, perhaps?
24 orks, 144pts

2X Immolators 130

and of course I did.

Vendetta 130

2 Hydras. 150. Now going to be even more common

1 exorcist W/Dozer Blade 140

Someone called for a Demolisher? 165 points should clean that up nicely.

How's about a Stormtalon with TL Lascannon 145

Blasts can't touch me.

2 hydras 150

Is Melta still any good? How about Deepstrike? If yes, 2X Obliterators, 150.

Deep Strike is better. And Warp is just as good.

GK Strike squad of 8- 160

Doomscythe - 175

2 Quad Gun Aegis Defense Lines- 200

I thought people had to man the guns of Aegis lines (And any fort for that matter.)

Land Raider 250

@Wildhost

It can autofire

DreadlordME! wrote:Land Raider 250

Wow, is this the first time you've posted properly on this thread? I can't remember any other time. Anyway, don't you just love lances? 2 ravagers should do the trick for 210. Not bothering with flickerfield because of their 5+ cover now.

Deadshot wrote:@Wildhost

It can autofire

Fortifications just got better ( Sorry, I don't have a rule book as we do all of our playing at my neighbors, and a slight amount at FLGS)

2 grey knight dreads with tl lascannons and missiles - 300

Spartan Assault Tank with armoured Ceramite- 315

Rules availible from FW site.

Deadshot wrote:Spartan Assault Tank with armoured Ceramite- 315

Rules availible from FW site.

Link? Please?

*sigh*

Here

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/News/Downloads.html

3 Ravagers With Darklances.

Points?

315 IIRC

4 Hydras, single units- 300

Um, where does it say gun emplacements can auto fire?
The bit on gun emplacements specifically state that a model needs to be in base contact in order to fire

I was under the impression emplaced guns can autofire at the nearest unit, at BS 2.

I think that's only in planetstrike, as I haven't seen anything about it in the rulebook.

pg.105
"Gun Emplacement [...] One model in base contact with the gun emplacement can fire it instead of his own weapon, following the normal rules for shooting [...]"
Doesn't say anything about auto-firing

The whole thread is invalid after the first fortification....

1 Defiler, with twin linked Las cannon 170 points

Matt.Kingsley wrote:Um, where does it say gun emplacements can auto fire?
The bit on gun emplacements specifically state that a model needs to be in base contact in order to fire

The gun emplacements on a *Building* can auto fire at bs 2. Its hidden somewhere in the building rules. That being said, as an ADL is not defined as a building, it cannot auto fire

Doomscythe 175

We are going in a loop here.

Hydra x2 - 150

No we're not. Leman Russ, 150.

5 fire dragons in a wave serpent 170

Also, Quad guns and Icarus Lascannons can't auto fire out of buildings, as they are Gun Emplacements, not Emplaced Weapons (RAW)
EDIT: Also, the building has to be occupied to be able to auto-fire

@ the firedragons, 10 stormtroopers, 165pts, using the Airbourne Assault Spec-Op and Deep striking in next to you

TH/SS termies. 200. I dare you to take power weapons

Leman Russ Demolisher, plasma sponsons, 205. Something about AP2 in there...

3 obliterators 215

5 Deathwing TH/SS with CML 235

2 dakkajets with extra supa shooter and fighta ace: 260

2 Stormtalons with Skyhammer Missile Launchers 310

Hydras. Hydras everywhere. Four for 300 points.

land raider 250

EagleArk wrote:land raider 250

Land raider you say? Tell me, does the land raider like S9 lances? Was that a no? Oh, what a shame. 2 Voidravens for 310pts.

Can I ask a question? Can Fortifications be treated as an upgrade for units for the purposes of this thread? You pay for them and treat them.as normal, but in addition to your units?


Anyway, 4 Hydras 300

Veterans, 3x Melta
Chimera

Veterans, 3x Melta
Chimera

310pts

10 man purgation squad 4 psycannons ,psy bolt ammo 300

i would say yes because otherwise eveytime you see a flyer someone will say "Hydra"

2x 6 man long fangs with 5 ML from 48" something like 360

Leman Russ * 2 , one with pask. 350.

2 stormtalons with typhoons-310

can I take plain ded trans by them selves? if so 3 Night Scythes (300pts)
if not, 2 doom scythes, (350pts)

2x Vendetta: 260pts

2 Stormtalons with Skyhammer Missile Launchers 310

4 hydras 300

4*5 scarabs, 300pts

GK Stormraven Gunship with Typhoon Missile Launcher, Hurricaine Bolters, Extra Armour, Plasma Cannon - 275

i dont think the scarabs would beat the hydras but oh well, inresponse to the storm raven - 2 dakkajets with +1 supa shootas and fighter ace- 260

Scarabs are pratically indestructible with a 3+ cover agains tyour vehicle. Not to mention they ignore cover and move very fast into cc.

4 Hydra, seprate units. 300

30 Death Company power weapons and 6 hand flamers. . . . 1110pts

Im really hoping that 1110 was a typo b/c you really wont be getting your points worth out of them
Doomsday Ark 175

Vindicare-Obsession wrote:Im really hoping that 1110 was a typo b/c you really wont be getting your points worth out of them
Doomsday Ark 175

Nah sadly At 20pts a model and 15pts per power weapon. . .

@ doomsday ark
Stormraven with multimelta and lascannons 200

2 dakka jets 220

You know the drill. 3 Hydras. 225.

Doomsday Ark
175
Now that Pie plates are full strength

stormtalon w/ typhoon missile 155

3 Hydras 225

land raider 250

Leman Russ Vanquisher: 155pts

EDIT:
Ninja'ed
2x Vendetta: 260pts

20 lootas 300

2x Leman Russ Battle Tank: 300pts

3 Chaos terminators with Combi meltas and powerfists, 145 points IIRC.

vindicare assassin 145

24 ork boys 144

God. This Forum has been going on for ages.

Yes it has.

Valkyrie w/ Rocket Pods: 130pts

Vendetta, not upgraded: 130pts

10 lootas 150

Leman Russ Battle Tank: 150

Hive Guard x3 150

Three Paladins Deepstriking, 165.

Blob: 1 PCS, 2 guardsmen squads with plasmas: 160

Hammerhead with railgun, burst cannons, multi-tracker: 160pts.

30 death company w/ thunder hammers and power weapons, melta pistols. 1,300

*sigh*
Be nice if people learned to read.

In the very first post of this thread, Dedrith wrote:it has to be somewhat close to the point cost of the previous unit posted, preferably less.

But if you want to play that many points, fine.
5 Land Raider Redeemers, 1250pts.

5x Vendetta: 650pts

5x 2 Hydras: 750

3 units of deathwing with 4 pf/sb and assault cannon deepstriking 750

3 land raiders 750

Leman Russ demolisher * 4, 2 squads of 2, 660.

5 Vendettas, 650pts

However many Dakkajets I can get for that many points.

6x Hydras: 450pts

Figures. 6 Obliterators, same points.

9x Guardsman Squad: 450pts

Rhino. 35 points.

Win.

Party foul here but we really need to bring the points back up

Vindi- 145

2 ravenwing typhoon support speeders with hevay bolters in squadrons of 1 staying 48" away 150

Good luck when I infiltrate in and 1 shot one of them. Then yo will need to come within 48.

Anyhow, 4 destroyers, 2 units 160

A vindicare? Really? Talk about overkill...

Right, Destroyers... Leman Russes are still good against them right? One for 160, back armour staying at the board edge.

not really. I can glance you to death much easier now. I'll give it to you though.

Ravager W/Flickerfield, Night Shields 125

Bugger, forgot about Gauss. You're right, probably would win.

From Ravager, 2* guard heavy weapon squads with AC, 150.

And nothing personal about vindi, if you think about it, point for point a rhino is very hard to kill with a legal unit.

2 5 man squads of wyches in raiders- 220

Still... overkill...

Anyway, I think I could win that one with more AC. 225 for three squads. That's 9 ACs by the way.

Leman Russ Battle Tank: 150pts

Stay far away and shell you with the battle cannon.

Leman Russ Demolisher. I can't hear you over the sound of my AV14.

5 Scourges with 2 haywire blasters. I can't hear you over the sound of all those glances
Oh, about 135pts or something.

Ok. Tac squad with Missile launcher, about 150 points.

25 Orkses. 150.

1 Movie marine. 100 points.

/Thread.

Nope. 1 dakkajet that's flying so high that you're out of range, even though this means about 50,000 feet up. 100-ish points.

I have a strength 6 36" range gun that fires in four round bursts, re rollable 3+ armour save, and am T6. I thikn I can bring you down.

IDK. You don't have skyfire, so that's barely gonna dammage me, and sure 3+ rerollable is nice but the amount of shots a supa shooter can throw out...

okay....
Now back to reality.......

Doom scythe
175

2 Hydras. 150.

Anyway, who wants reality?

LRBT: 150pts

2 broadsides. 140.

2 Crisis Suits with Twin-Linked Fusion Blasters and Targeting Arrays arriving by Deep Strike.

106pts.

Nasty. But how do you feel about ork hordses? 17 orkses. 102.

Tau Shas'el Commander with Airbursting Fragmentation Projector (yay for Large Blast!), Burst Cannon, Targeting Array and hard-wired Multi-tracker.

93 points.

Las-Plas Razorback with Hunter-Killer Missile: 85pts

(Are Dedicated Transports allowed?)

5 deep striking stormtroopers with 2 meltaguns-105

Veteran squad with Heavy Bolter: 80pts

Heavy Artillery Carriage with an Earthshaker 75 pts

Ravager 105

With Dark Lances I presume?

Veterans, 3x Meltagun: 100pts

...And back round to the hordses. 17 orkses, 102 pointses.

2x Heavy Quad Launcher Battery 100 pts

Each of them fire 4x Str 5 AP 5 small blast.

AP5, you say? No match for my broadside. With targetting array and shield drone. 100pts.

BA Predator, 60 pts.

...Honestly? A S10 shot that hits 8/9 times, and then 2 wounds, a shield drone to take anything big with a 4++ and both of them have a 2+... And you say a tank....
Explain why you'd win, or it's the broadside still.

How does the Broadside have a 2++ save?

Anyways:

Archon with Shadow Field and Blaster: 105pts.

DOOMBREAD wrote:How does the Broadside have a 2++ save?

Think that was a mistype. Both have a 2+, the Shield Drone has a 4++ and the XV88 can Look Out Sir onto the Shield Drone on a 4+ if it needs to.

Vindi- 145. No invul or armor and I get to allocate the wound. Now that I also have a 2+ save in ruins, Im going to eat you for breakfast.

Lascannon HWS: 105pts

15 ork boys 90 pts

Chimera, hull heavy flamer, pintle heavy stubber: 65pts

Heavy Artillery Carriage with an Earthshaker 75 pts

Oblit in cover. 80 or something like that.

4 scouts w/ shotguns and sergeant w/ power weapon - 90 pts

Autocannon HWS: 75pts

10 guardsmen w/ a plasma gun - 65 pts?

I have no clue how scouts would beat an obliterator considering they have 2+, plsma cannons, heavy flamers, and the like.....

wow guardsmen are cost effective.....

exorcist
85 IIRC

Obliterator - 75 pts ( are exorcist missile ap 2?)

Yeah now that I think of it the s outs would lose. Especially because those 3 power weapon attacks are only ap 3 now in 6th Ed.

nope. good old ap3
1 ravager 105

Heavy Artillery Carriage with a Medusa Siege Gun 100 pts

It's been said before, but:

5x deepstriking Stormtroopers with 2x meltas: 105pts

I've said it before, but:

17 orkses: 102 pointses

Assault Cannon Razorback: 65-75pts (can't remember which)

7 lootas, 105pts

10 DA scouts with bolters 145 points

C'mon guys. Dont let the thread die. Doom scythe 175

Stormtalon with Skyhammer Missile Launcher 155


C'mon guys, Pg 300! Come on!

In an effort to get it to page 300,

2 Hydras. 150.

3 raiders, seperate units. 180

Oh no, we're already in an argument. Oh well, here goes:

Skyfire still hits skimmers normally, and you don't get jink saves due to their special rules. So, raiders don't stand a chance vs. Hydras.

mmmmmm I turboboost ram you turn 1, or lance you turn 1. If it means that much ill dorp 1 to give the other 2 advanced Aethersails, shields, and ram,

2 raiders, shields, advanced aethersails, rams- 150

plus as a unit of 2 hydras you can only shoot 1 down a turn.

Fine, two units of one. You can't ram unless you have shock prows, and you're probably going to damage yourselves more than me in a ram. So, two units of one hydra: 150.

I cant? Please tell me that that wasn't a change that I missed....

1 vindicare assassin 145. Infiltrate and 2+ cover ftw

It was always like that. Normally only tanks can tank shock, and ramming's just an extension of that.

And here's where I regret not knowing much about any armies with flamers. Oh well:
4 Crisis suits with TL flamer and blacksun filter: 136pts. Lack of 2+ cover FTW

I dont have my dex on me so im not sure if the raider is, in fact, not a tank. That would be intensly irritating though.

4 Wraiths- 140

It doesn't have the tank special rule, no.
dakkajet. Try getting that into combat
Uh, 110 points IIRC. Haven't got that white dwarf with me.

two units of one hydra: 150.

Uh, how about a vindicare? 145pts

SoB retributers X5 W/heavy flamers- 145

Fair do's. Foot-slogging?
Ravager. FF and NS. 125. Kills 2 per turn, all the other stuff just to make it harder to beat.

Stromtalon Gunship (Heavy Bolters+Assault Cannon) 130

Stormraven with TL MM 205.
Yes it's over. Do I care?
Nope.avi.

Two individual vendettas, 260 points.

4 Hydras 300

8 SS/TH termies, 320

Swarmlord with 1 Tyrant Guard 340

And you have to slog, seeing as you didn't say you were deep striking.

3 Ravagers with night shields: 345

2 Doom Scythe 350 (seperate units.... Not like they can be a squadron {*cough* Flight *cough*} anyway).

Uh, let's be imaginative about this...
Heh, who'm I kidding? 5 Hydras, 375.

*bump* uh, no-one? But it's so close to 300!

Platoon as follows:

PCS w/ Lascannon-50
Infantry Squad w/ Lascannon-70
Infantry Squad w/ Lascannon-70
Infantry Squad w/ Lascannon-70
Infantry Squad w/ Lascannon-70
Infantry Squad w/ Lascannon-70

400 in total

2x 30 orks, nob with PK: 395

3 Basilisks-375

2 Hammerheads with DPs, MTs, burst cannons, railguns. 310-ish.

2 Voidravens w/ flickerfields- 310ish as well

PCS w/ Lascannon-50
Infantry Squad w/ Lascannon-70
Infantry Squad w/ Lascannon-70
Infantry Squad w/ Lascannon-70
Infantry Squad w/ Lascannon-70
330

BA Stormraven w/ Typhoon, TL Plasma Cannon, and Hurricane Bolters-255

2 Voidravens w/ flickerfields- 340 IIRC. Sorry about the relatively large gap.

Here I was trying to lower the points cost. Ah well 4 Hydra- 300

Happy 300!

2 Mawlocs 340

Yay! 8x 5 DE warriors: 360

5x Earthshaker Heavy artillery carriage 375

Guess what is oging to handle the ordnance? Fliers

Im so imaginative

2 doom scythe 350

Hunt fliers with fliers, dogfighting time!
3 Dakkajets with extra supa shootas, ~360pts

3 vendettas 390 pts

4 Hydras: 300.

2 Vindicare Assassins 290 IIRC

Vendetta with heavy bolter sponsons: 140

Edit: Whoops, double posted.

Ehhh....
That lack of skyfire really bites.

Avenger Skyfighter W/Chaff Launcher 150

2 hydras 150 pts

1 LRBT: 150

Whats the range on a hydra? If its low enough my avenger might be able to beat it.

1 Vindicare Assassin 145

10 Genestealers 140pts.

2X immolators 110

Dat twin linked heavy flamer

Gah! My 5+ Armor save!

3 Hive Guard (sitting comfortably not in LOS) 150

2 basilisk. 180 IIRC. if not then just 1.

I dont care if I cant see you

5 man Sternguard Squad in Drop Pod, Combi-Meltas: 185.

Yeah, I can only nuke one on the way in, but that's what Krak Grenades are for. Unless those 2 Bassies are a unit.

5 th/ss deathwing with CML 235 pts

LRBT with hull lascannon and plasma sponsons: 205

BA stormraven with multimelta and lascannons

Points? 2 Hydras, 150

LRBT: 150

Vindicare-145

Calidus. 150 IIRC. Haven used her in an eternity even though she is sweet.

Valkyrie: 100pts

Hydra. 75.

Yeah, I think this thread has run its course.