cats and toddlers... zero points?

actually, one of those nobz plus painboy etc unkillable monstrosity on bikes mobz I've had to deal with a few times and they are disgustingly cheap for their game efficiency. I have no idea how many points his squad, I just knew not to even try to shoot at it and tarpit as soon as possible (even that didn't really work), and that they owned center field and I know he didn't pay that much for em, but I haven't my codex handy.

You cannot pick how far away you want to be, think of how abusable that would be

No one can, so it is assumed that the longer range weapon hits first unless the counter has outflank and/or deep strike.

cats and toddlers... zero points?

Remember always spay and nueter you're pets.

and your toddlers...

My cats are good, they only carry off my opponent's models...

for the bikernobz, (not sure on bikernobz points, so dont know how many I can ninja in)
2 or 3 Leman Rus Punishers, not in a squadron.

Lets try this again...again...

Dedrith wrote:There seems to be some confusion as to where we are in terms of units posted.

Resetting unit to 5 TH/SS Terminators in Land Raider Crusader w/ Multi-melta - 460

omgnowaiii wrote:

Zoanthrope to kill the landraider.
Swarmlord and 10 genestealers for the termies.

480 points.

3x Ravagers with DL, Dizzy Dizzy, HorrorFex to keep you pinned.
345
1x Raider Squad w/ DL, Syabarite with Cruicible - just in case
131

[476]

^_^

Nobody_Holme wrote:My cats are good, they only carry off my opponent's models...

for the bikernobz, (not sure on bikernobz points, so dont know how many I can ninja in)
2 or 3 Leman Rus Punishers, not in a squadron.

3 Leman russ vanquishers with lascannons - 495

Rampaging girlfriend, pissed I am playing Warhammer again. No points but still have to pay cost of models when she flips the table coming after me!

gendoikari87 wrote:

ChaosxVoid wrote:xv 9 hazard suits, pretty sure 190 points plus sheild drone (: too lazy to get the book

what guns?

Twin linked burst cannons

Vindicare Assassin
Eversor Assassin
Callidus Assassin
Vendetta Gunship or 2 Griffon Heavy Mortars

serve as required 455/465

lets try to keep it down to 1 type of unit.

Resetting unit to: 5 Mega-Armored Nobz - 200

Lotet wrote:Vindicare Assassin
Eversor Assassin
Callidus Assassin
Vendetta Gunship or 2 Griffon Heavy Mortars

serve as required 455/465

Assassins can only be taken if an Inquisitor if present, and even then they're 0-1. Nice try though.

5 Death Cult Assassins 200

they may have one less attack but they have an Invulnerable save of 5+ and 5 Weapon Skill, tipping it in thier favor. Infiltrate should hopefully prevent them from getting shot at by slow and purposeful opponents, if there's terrain

Lotet wrote:5 Death Cult Assassins 200

they may have one less attack but they have an Invulnerable save of 5+ and 5 Weapon Skill, tipping it in thier favor. Infiltrate should hopefully prevent them from getting shot at by slow and purposeful opponents, if there's terrain

3 Grey Knight Purgators + Justicar, 2 Incinerators, Psycannon, Psycannon Bolts for the Justicar

195 Points.

DC Assassins aren't better than OA Assassins, as OA Assassins have +1 BS T A and Sv

I know mate, but they're enough to statistically beat the new targets, the Meganobz

5 man Tactical Marines Squad
Sergent with Powerfist and Combi-Flamer
Razorback with Lascannon and Twin-Linked Plasma Guns
200

every kill counts when it's firing aganst what you have arrayed

Tell you what can have a field day with storm shields? Callidus Assassins! ignore ALL saves in melee shank you vewy much!

Lotet wrote:I know mate, but they're enough to statistically beat the new targets, the Meganobz

5 man Tactical Marines Squad
Sergent with Powerfist and Combi-Flamer
Razorback with Lascannon and Twin-Linked Plasma Guns
200

every kill counts when it's firing aganst what you have arrayed

terminator assault squad with ss and th- 200 pts

9 Fire Dragons and an Exarch.
6.64 unsaved wounds (you only get a 5++ save).

177 points. This is of course assuming you don't get into combat.

S_P

LRBT w/ heavy bolters 170 points
Open fire, reverse reverse

I cannot even begin to describe the fail.

@ LRBT
2 broadsides
+1BS
Team leader
2 shield drones

200 points ( 1 could probably do it & w/o drones both are 170 but I'm trying to up the points a bit)

Nah the drones will help against ID.

Yes but I have a 2+ save against a regular LRBT, he can cause one would & I have to roll a 1 to fail, there's always the chance but probability is on my side. Either way stop the criticising of everything & keep the thread moving

@ my broadsides
Blood Angels 10 man Vanguard Vet squad (215 points)

Can't remember if they have rending but if they don't.

Leman Russ Executioner with plasma cannon sponsons- 230 (Plasma cannons aren't needed but meh, I like overkill)

Leman Russ Vanquisher with lascannon and pask-220 points
excuse my earlier post, it proves my inexperience against Eldar

9 Fire Dragons and an exarch again.

Assuming they get close enough without being vaporised, that tank is dead.

177pts

S_P

Cadet_Commissar_Ludd wrote:Leman Russ Vanquisher with lascannon and pask-220 points
excuse my earlier post, it proves my inexperience against Eldar

Don't, the LRBT would wipe out the fire dragons...

Space_Potato wrote:9 Fire Dragons and an Exarch.
6.64 unsaved wounds (you only get a 5++ save).

177 points. This is of course assuming you don't get into combat.

S_P

Bad, he has a 3++ against shooting too...

6.something (not 6.64, slightly better since exarch is BS5) hit.

5 wound.

He loses two or so.

Smush.

@ Fire Dragons

BA vanguard vets (10) with jump packs
315

Yes i realize the insane jump in points but I'm sick of seeing this thread stagnate with the proverbial rock-paper-scissors units at the 150-200 point level.

Live thread live...
Just to keep going, 2 LRBTs (seperate squads) lascannons- 330 points, you can't go for both of us...

Cadet_Commissar_Ludd wrote:Live thread live...
Just to keep going, 2 LRBTs (seperate squads) lascannons- 330 points, you can't go for both of us...

Although I can!

Wave Serpent
TL-Shuriken Cannons
5 Dire Dragons

Wave Serpent
TL-Shuriken Cannons
5 Dire Dragons

TOTAL: 360

Fire Dragons have BS 4, melta guns, and melta bombs.

One lascannon should hit, and if you're lucky one battle cannon can get full strength. (Without ord...)

So, one glance/pen from that. I can move flat out and what not, yada yada yada.

Whoo two player game, bring it
2 hellhounds w/ hv flam 1 devil dog w/ multi melta total-395 know its up in points but oh well.
so, i can melta u/ s6 ap4 flame you from 12 inches away, and i'm fast YAY
seriously though, lets get some more people playin da game

2 Squadrons of War Walkers with 2 scatter lasers each. 360pts

The walkers glance each wave serpent to death. Then the next few turns (hoping the serpents get down far away enough to stop the dragons gibbing the walkers) the walkers mince the dragons.

S_P

looks like you get to pick next player, who do you want to play the next round against? MWAHAHAHAHAHA

8 Destroyers-400

24 str6 shots should be able to kill the warwalkers.

30x ork lootas 450pts

Space_Potato wrote:2 Squadrons of War Walkers with 2 scatter lasers each. 360pts

The walkers glance each wave serpent to death. Then the next few turns (hoping the serpents get down far away enough to stop the dragons gibbing the walkers) the walkers mince the dragons.

S_P

No no no Space Potato!

There are so many things wrong with that...

Land Raider, whatever flavour you like - 250 points

@Ork Lootas

Grey Knight Purgation Squad, 9 Incinerators, Justicar
410 points

@grey knights, 2 LRBTs w/ plas sponsons and lascannons -405 points


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just you try and beat it, bring it

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:

Space_Potato wrote:2 Squadrons of War Walkers with 2 scatter lasers each. 360pts

The walkers glance each wave serpent to death. Then the next few turns (hoping the serpents get down far away enough to stop the dragons gibbing the walkers) the walkers mince the dragons.

S_P

No no no Space Potato!

There are so many things wrong with that...

Like?

Gimme a break, I'm still a noob

S_P

Can no one beat the LRBTs?!!! In that case, I believe I win...

LORDEATSALOT wrote:@Ork Lootas

Grey Knight Purgation Squad, 9 Incinerators, Justicar
410 points

Illegal.

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:

LORDEATSALOT wrote:@Ork Lootas

Grey Knight Purgation Squad, 9 Incinerators, Justicar
410 points

Illegal.

i know it's annoying when people do that but can we just play da game...
also thanks for standing up for me earlier on.


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Cadet_Commissar_Ludd wrote:@grey knights, 2 LRBTs w/ plas sponsons and lascannons -405 points


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just you try and beat it, bring it

let's go

Are the Russ' squadron'd?

If yes: 3 Vendettas (in 1 squadron of 3)

If no: 3 Vendettas (3 squadrons (single, single, single))

390 points. With some damn cunning moves, it will go in my favour.

You haven't won yet, buddie....

S_P

not squadron'd so the latter

3 farseers with Eldritich storm= 225

Chaos sorceror, gift of chaos, termie armour, mark of Tzeench, bolt of change. It' s 200 points dead (i think).

a dragon from WFB

The Imperator wrote:3 farseers with Eldritich storm= 225

Really...?

Three S3 large blasts that can spin tanks around, with range what?: 18"...

If you do not know what a unit is, do not counter it...

That will not beat nine lascannons a turn...

Sorry, thought it was legal (trying to use a French codex)

Someone want to explain the Chaos one to me?

@ Sorc:

3 Heralds of Tzeentch with Boon of Mutation - 240pts

or @ Vendettas (because I don't think a single sorc can take 3)

5 Broadsides (2, 2, 1) with blacksun filters - 365

5 fire dragons 80 points, wave serp transport 105

Wraithlord, bright lance, eldar missile launcher 155 points I believe

@ the Wraithlord

Carnifex - 160 points

The Carnifex has a 31.25% of dealing 2 wounds to the lord, and an equal chance of dealing 3. The Wraithlord has a 49.383% chance of dealing 1 wound, and 30.864% chance of 2. Either way, the wraithlord will die.

Assuming of course, vacuum, and that the fex gets the charge without taking a wound beforehand.

S_P

Skulltaker

Doesn't need any upgrades, but to keep the points flowing up, with a chariot

160

Shrike325 wrote:@ Sorc:

3 Heralds of Tzeentch with Boon of Mutation - 240pts

or @ Vendettas (because I don't think a single sorc can take 3)

5 Broadsides (2, 2, 1) with blacksun filters - 365

@Broadsides

Hmm...

5 Warwalkers
Dual Star Cannons

2-2-1

The ability to outflank & scout gives me a huge advantage.

As well as having 20 Ap2 shots a turn!

Why didyou just skip 4 posts?

Doom of Malan'tai - 90 pts . . .checkmate tbh. he kills you in YOUR turn

Deff Dread vs Malantai,
your silly powers cant hurt it, but his 2 DCCW will tear you apart, 85 pts min

6 Long Fangs 5 Missile Launchers, melta gun, 150 pts

(trying to keep the points on the up here!)

@ 6 long fangs , 6 chosen 5 plazma guns and a combi plazma (outflank)

Battlecannon it phil wrote:@ 6 long fangs , 6 chosen 5 plazma guns and a combi plazma (outflank)

How many points?

S_P

193

3 Obliterators
225

Instant Death?
if they can be, 2 shasvre broadsides(seperate squads) w/plasma guns and shield gens- 220 points
if not i guess i'll go with executioner w/plas sponsons- 230 points

Oblits can be ID'd

I counter those broadsides with:
BA vanguard vet squad (10) w/ jump packs 315,

Yes the point jump is high but it seems every day I check this thread someone's e-peen has forced them to try & outdo the last poster & brought the points back down to the 200 level

2 LRBTs w/ plas sponsons- 380 points, you want the points to go up, lets go

@Ludd, 2 seperate units or 1 big squad, it will make a difference.

seperate units.

EagleArk wrote:Why didyou just skip 4 posts?

This is why I skipped four fething posts.

Guitardian wrote:5 fire dragons 80 points, wave serp transport 105

Toasted by the broadsides.

LORDEATSALOT wrote:Wraithlord, bright lance, eldar missile launcher 155 points I believe

Not a chance in fething hell against the dragons.

Space_Potato wrote:@ the Wraithlord

Carnifex - 160 points

The Carnifex has a 31.25% of dealing 2 wounds to the lord, and an equal chance of dealing 3. The Wraithlord has a 49.383% chance of dealing 1 wound, and 30.864% chance of 2. Either way, the wraithlord will die.

Assuming of course, vacuum, and that the fex gets the charge without taking a wound beforehand.

S_P

The carnifex taking no wounds, against two high S low AP weapons? Methinks you're heretical!

Shrike325 wrote:Skulltaker

Doesn't need any upgrades, but to keep the points flowing up, with a chariot

Ding ding ding, we have a winner! (Really! Really really?!?!)

160

Cadet_Commissar_Ludd wrote:2 LRBTs w/ plas sponsons- 380 points, you want the points to go up, lets go

Lysander - 200 points

Fafnir wrote:

Cadet_Commissar_Ludd wrote:2 LRBTs w/ plas sponsons- 380 points, you want the points to go up, lets go

Lysander - 200 points

I like the idea of keeping the points as low as possible. So sue me.

I think it's more of a "how is Lysander ever going to hurt them as he can never get into CC and they can always fire their main cannon?"

But, to counter him anyway:

2 Heralds of Tzeentch, each with Boon of Mutation and a Chariot, 190

also given that the LRBTs are seperate units... anyway

Actually, he stands a moderate chance, with his 3++ save, and his eternal warrior. He deep strikes, then runs up to one, killing it. Then he wanders off towards the next one. If you stand still, you get three able to scatter, wound on 2+. He has terminator armor against the battle cannons and heavy bolters, and his 3++ against the plasma cannons.

Lysander also has a S10 master crafted melta thunder hammer for lack of a better term, he has a quite good chance actually. Move + run is the same movement as your cruising, though you have to make dangerous terrain tests, he has to make difficult terrain tests with move through cover.

Leman russes are best saved for troops (MEQ, or Orks), not mean as balls HQ units.


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Shrike325 wrote:I think it's more of a "how is Lysander ever going to hurt them as he can never get into CC and they can always fire their main cannon?"

But, to counter him anyway:

2 Heralds of Tzeentch, each with Boon of Mutation and a Chariot, 190

Love those daemons eh? I don't know their stats, so I won't pretend I do and make hack-job counters. >.>

You guys need to stop arguing and just play the game.

and Inquisitor_Syphonious, please don't just skip posts. It doesn't matter if their counter doesn't work, though feel free to explain to them why so they have a better understanding. But don't just skip them.

Resetting unit to 5x Nobz, 1 Painboy, cybork, 1 Bosspole, 2 Pks 2 Big Choppas - 215

Dedrith wrote:You guys need to stop arguing and just play the game.

and Inquisitor_Syphonious, please don't just skip posts. It doesn't matter if their counter doesn't work, though feel free to explain to them why so they have a better understanding. But don't just skip them.

Resetting unit to 5x Nobz, 1 Painboy, cybork, 1 Bosspole, 2 Pks 2 Big Choppas - 215

On foot? They're toast.

Leman Russ Demolisher (Hull Heavy Flamer, Plasma Cannon Sponsons) - 205

Must... resist... urge... to...

Anyway, I quit this thread for real now.

I have been poking holes in other people's "logic".

It is obvious that it is annoying some people (one of them being a prime offender)

I love these threads though I simply cannot take from these.

I might start an invite only one in the future, they can be a nice tactical excercise... instead of "leman russez are kool!"

And with that, I bid you all ado. Good luck, and have fun.

Shrike325 wrote:I think it's more of a "how is Lysander ever going to hurt them as he can never get into CC and they can always fire their main cannon?"

Many people have underestimated the sheer destructive power of Lysander, only to lose entire lines of Dreadnaughts and tanks to him.

Cadet_Commissar_Ludd wrote:Instant Death?
if they can be, 2 shasvre broadsides(seperate squads) w/plasma guns and shield gens- 220 points
if not i guess i'll go with executioner w/plas sponsons- 230 points

Obliderators can Deep Strike, are Slow and Purposful (for the Relentless), can use a twin-linked Meltagun if they get the chance, Multi-Melta or Lascannon otherwise and if all else fails, a powerfist

MinMax wrote:Leman Russ Demolisher (Hull Heavy Flamer, Plasma Cannon Sponsons) - 205

Monolith 235
Deep Strike whenever it's needed and AP1 shot if the target is in the centre of the blast

Trygon 200 pts

A trygon can't possibly hurt a monolith as it's special rules disallow your 2D6 to pen as an MC...

The correct answer was actually B, Lysander.

Fafnir wrote:The correct answer was actually B, Lysander.

But we'll stick with the Trygon anyway

even though the Trygon couldn't possibly hurt my Monolith...

Inquisitor Lord unarmed
2x Chirurgeon
3x Acolyte all with Mancatchers
3x Veteran Guardsmen (for exploding Tank)
Rhino
173 (83 if Lysander, figure it out)

the Trygon (or even Lysander) will only be able to attack once because of the Mancatchers, I can distribute the wound to the Inquisitor since he's not an Independant Character till his retinue is destroyed and the Chirurgeons will stop the wound from EVER getting through. thus the Trygon is somehow kept at bay with nets and huge cattle-prod things while the Inquisitor stangles it to death

*edited because regular Inquisitors can't have so many people in thier retinue

aww someone already answered against the monolith... i would have said 1 squad of crusaders with a lascannon, had two of those fire at different monoliths the other night, they both killed one, while the predator annihlator picked off the third

Lotet wrote:even though the Trygon couldn't possibly hurt my Monolith...

Inquisitor Lord unarmed
2x Chirurgeon
3x Acolyte all with Mancatchers
3x Veteran Guardsmen (for exploding Tank)
Rhino
173 (83 if Lysander, figure it out)

the Trygon (or even Lysander) will only be able to attack once because of the Mancatchers, I can distribute the wound to the Inquisitor since he's not an Independant Character till his retinue is destroyed and the Chirurgeons will stop the wound from EVER getting through. thus the Trygon is somehow kept at bay with nets and huge cattle-prod things while the Inquisitor stangles it to death

*edited because regular Inquisitors can't have so many people in thier retinue

Trygon has 6 attacks... he rapes your squad.

But to counter anyway:
12x Daemonettes - 160
36 Rending CC attacks when they don't charge, 48 if they do. Hit first. Eats your squad.

Shrike325 wrote:
Trygon has 6 attacks... he rapes your squad.

But to counter anyway:
12x Daemonettes - 160
36 Rending CC attacks when they don't charge, 48 if they do. Hit first. Eats your squad.

damn, the ONLY unit in the entire Tryranid army that has more than 4 for it base number of attacks (except for the Trygon Prime) even the Swarmlord and Deathleaper can be beat (but I'd need some Penitents or something for the Swarmlord)

moving on...
6 Grey Knights, look in the bright side, at least you get "Sustained Attack" for wave after wave of Daemons

no wait! 30 Guardsmen, Daemonettes are Toughness 3 Invulnerable Sv 5+ yeah? (Daemons of Chaos and specific Marine Chapters are the only codexes I don't have)

@ 30 guard 150p a griffon morter to beat those 75p or 2 of them to keep points same for others

Larbo...65 points

Marbo's played as the same unit but with different paint job brother!

Jihadnik wrote:Larbo...65 points

Marbo's played as the same unit but with different paint job brother!

Very funny...

Please skip this user's post.

@ 2 griffons, 2 shasui broadsides, 140

I've said it once and I'll say it again, despite the unit choice restrictions

Vindicare Assassin
Callidus Assasin
Eversor Assasin
10 man Psyker Battle Squad
Chimera for the Psykers (held off the table at the begining of the game in the case of Leman Russ and others of the sort)

435

Cadet_Commissar_Ludd wrote:@ 2 griffons, 2 shasui broadsides, 140

Vindicator w/ Extra Armor - 145 I think, I don't have my codex with me.

Sorry Lotet, but your response was quite a point hike.

you kidding me? people have upped the points and made illegal choices plenty of times on this thread, how come both times I've posted the type of reply the people just don't want to go along with it? it's because of my low post count isn't it? I've seen this all before... *hysterical cut-off applied*

why do people even bother bringing Ordnance? it just gets hit by a Deep Striking unit or Lascannon team

Shas'ui: Dual Fusion Blasters, 2 Gun Drones
Shas'ui: Dual Fusion Blasters, 2 Gun Drones
Shas'vre: Airburting Fragmentation Projector, Failsafe Detonator, 2 Gun Drones
216

Deep Striking when needed

Doom of Malan'tai with Mycetic spore 130pts

Inquisitor with Psycannon
50 pts

Deathleaper - 140pts

30 ork boys no upgrades 180 you gotta kill em all before they kill you.

Hellhound w/heavy flamer, storm bolter, extra armour, camo netting- 175 point (upgrades to keep points up)

BT venerable melta dreadnought w/tank hunter skill- 145pts

Tyranid Horde wrote:BT venerable melta dreadnought w/tank hunter skill- 145pts

9 ork tankbustas - Nob with Klaw and bosspole, 2 tankhammers. - 165pts.

6 s10 and 4 s9 hits on the charge, backed up by 6 tankbusta bombs. With 9 rokkits for shooting.

S_P

Don't know their stats so cannot counter that.

Space_Potato wrote:

Tyranid Horde wrote:BT venerable melta dreadnought w/tank hunter skill- 145pts

9 ork tankbustas - Nob with Klaw and bosspole, 2 tankhammers. - 165pts.

6 s10 and 4 s9 hits on the charge, backed up by 6 tankbusta bombs. With 9 rokkits for shooting.

S_P

20 Ork Boyz 2 W/ Big shoota Nob W/ Bosspole and Big Choppa - 150

A simple counter, but it should work. Also, do tankbustas come with rokkits for free? I don't have the codex with me.

Dedrith wrote:

Space_Potato wrote:

Tyranid Horde wrote:BT venerable melta dreadnought w/tank hunter skill- 145pts

9 ork tankbustas - Nob with Klaw and bosspole, 2 tankhammers. - 165pts.

6 s10 and 4 s9 hits on the charge, backed up by 6 tankbusta bombs. With 9 rokkits for shooting.

S_P

20 Ork Boyz 2 W/ Big shoota Nob W/ Bosspole and Big Choppa - 150


A simple counter, but it should work. Also, do tankbustas come with rokkits for free? I don't have the codex with me.

Yes they do.

wraithlord with scatter laser and shuri cannon 120

once again 20 boys but this time with a nod that has a pk
155

3 Destroyers - 150

Mawloc 170pts

Terror from the deep is the for sure win button. if that doesn't go off then its a harder fight.

Terror from the deep?

YoTWW 100

Guitardian wrote:YoTWW 100

WHA?????

Looks like Jaws of the World Wolf but spelt wrong, I don't know either, I don't have a Space Wolves Codex

I'm not sure if anyone knows what YoTWW means, so feel free to continue from Toeko's post.

An ironclad dreqd with 2 hunter-killer missiles? 155 pts.

ok, lets go from here...
@dreadnought, 2 shasui broadsides, 140 (seperate squads)

Vanilla Land Raider - 250

Bringing the point value up a bit.

2 necron destroyer lords - warsythe 280
Destroyer body

Both kitted out like that.

30 Ork boyz Nob W/ PK/Bosspole 3 Boyz w/ Rokkits - 250

Not 100% sure on what the Destroyer Lord's equipment does, but this should do it.

Leman russ with pask 240

Land Raider Promethius with Sergeant chronus

land raider promethius points worth?

Samus_aran115 wrote:Land Raider Promethius with Sergeant chronus

Got some points to go with that I don't have the codex thats in.

templeorks wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:Land Raider Promethius with Sergeant chronus

Got some points to go with that I don't have the codex thats in.

Me neither. It's either imperial armour or the Apoc book. I believe it's a around 290 points, maybe 325

I thought no Apoc?


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templeorks wrote:Leman russ with pask 240

BT attack bike w/multi melta -65 pts

Killa Kan with Rokkit Launcha (they have Ballistic Skill 3 for those who forget)
50 points

If you up the points then multiply the Kans accordingly

A squad of Wraith-Gaurd, led by a Spiritseer Warlock with conceal and a singing spear
399

but that would be against 8 Kans, with R24" S8 AP3 shots and with Dreadnaught Close Combat weapons in Melee

4 Wraithguard would die getting into range
about 3 Kans will die from the return fire, maybe 4 from Singing Spear
2 more Wraiths down to shooting (carrying over decimals from previous shots, plus the Worlock could fail his Ld8 Psychic Test) then they're Charged
the 4 Wraiths and Worlock cause some damage but even if only 2 Kans survive that's 6 S10 Close Combat attacks
1 Wraith and 1 Worlock probably can't beat down both Kans before they strike again, if the Worlock hit with both previous attacks then I won't give him the benefit of the doubt and say he hit 3 times in a row

@ Killa Kan

5 Lootas - 75

Edit: sorry didn't see the next page.

Edit again: Lotet, you can't just multiply Kans, thats obviously not how the thread works.

Please continue from Anidem's post.

I thought we were keeping the points up in here I'll be back when we get back above 200.

...We are above 200. Like I said we're continuing from Anidem's post.

unit: Jervis and his crew!
cost: codex (as in bye bye codex!)

On a more serious note...

unit: 2 Leman Russ Battle tanks with Camo netting
cost: 340pts

Can we use Spearhead Formations?

Lysander. Every time, all the time.

Dedrith wrote:@ Killa Kan

5 Lootas - 75

Edit: sorry didn't see the next page.

Edit again: Lotet, you can't just multiply Kans, thats obviously not how the thread works.

Please continue from Anidem's post.

wow, you say I can't up the points by a huge amount and just skip my post but you let someone else perform an even Bigger points increase?

by and by...

30 Imperial Guardsmen with 3 Lascannons, seperate squads, as far apart as needs be
210

I'd hate to play that scenario. Would take forever.

you know, we should probably get the original poster (maybe MOD or something) to set down a size for the board, like 36", though outflankers with high movement like the Eversor Assassin would be a bit too deadly in that scenario, I don't know

oh wait, the OP is is Dedrith...

Ork deff dread with 2 DCW 115 points.

Sammael in a land speeder.
205 pts.

13 Lootas - 195

ubbeknubbe wrote:Ork deff dread with 2 DCW 115 points.

how does a Deff Dread beat 3 separate Guardsman squads who are scattered across the board? 2 Dreads on the other hand, that's a different story

Nightbringer 360
how many times has he been used? not as much as Leman Russ Tank varients at least

ChrisCP wrote:13 Lootas - 195

AV 14 front and sides, you aren't goin to see my back.

@ Lotet: 15 Genestealers with toxin sacs and scything talons, 1 broodlord with toxin sacs and talons (all in the same squad), and 1 note GO HYPNOTIC GAZE!
350

3 Scout Sentinels Auto Cannons
2 with Heavy Flamers
2 with Lascannons
300

2x Broadsides, 1 with a target lock and the other with 2 gun drones
170

braindeadmonkey wrote:

ChrisCP wrote:13 Lootas - 195

AV 14 front and sides, you aren't goin to see my back.

Funny, I thought you were waaaay over there dealing with Dreds that are half your cost... very easy to shoot you in the back from there.

Try not to double the points cost willy-nilly or I'll shoot you in the back


3x Zoananthropes in pod with TLDS - 225

ChrisCP wrote:

braindeadmonkey wrote:

ChrisCP wrote:13 Lootas - 195

AV 14 front and sides, you aren't goin to see my back.

Funny, I thought you were waaaay over there dealing with Dreds that are half your cost... very easy to shoot you in the back from there.

Try not to double the points cost willy-nilly or I'll shoot you in the back


3x Zoananthropes in pod with TLDS - 225

Ezekiel + a 5 man tac squad with chainsword and a flamer
265

8 Grey Knight Terminators 368

also Scout Sentinels can (surprisingly enough) Scout and Outflank

Lotet wrote:8 Grey Knight Terminators 368

also Scout Sentinels can (surprisingly enough) Scout and Outflank

Always with the point jumps...oh well.

Vanilla Land Raider w/ Multi Melta - 260

I'm not sure exactly what weapons a GK Terminator carries, but I'll assume it's just a Power Fist.

10 scarab swarms w/ disruption fields - 160 pts

10 man tac with flamer ML and chainsword
180

braindeadmonkey wrote:Hammerhead with disruption pod and railgun
145

I think the scarabs still win!

braindeadmonkey wrote:10 man tac with flamer ML and chainsword
180

LRBT w/plas sponsons 190 points

Hammerhead w/railgun.
140

braindeadmonkey wrote:Hammerhead w/railgun.
140

Necron Destroyer Lord with Warscythe - 140

5 seekers of slannesh
85pts

braindeadmonkey wrote:5 seekers of slannesh
85pts

Big Mek
Mega armour, power kaw, attack squig 115pts

Thats 6 Power fist attacks at strength 8 on the charge with a 2+ armour save!
(and before that he will kill at least 1 seeker with a twin-linked shoota!




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Dedrith wrote:

Lotet wrote:8 Grey Knight Terminators 368

also Scout Sentinels can (surprisingly enough) Scout and Outflank

Always with the point jumps...oh well.

Vanilla Land Raider w/ Multi Melta - 260

I'm not sure exactly what weapons a GK Terminator carries, but I'll assume it's just a Power Fist.

GK termies have storm bolter and nemesis force weapon (I think) which raises their Strength by 2 and counts as a power weapon.

Matt.Kingsley wrote:

braindeadmonkey wrote:5 seekers of slannesh
85pts

Big Mek
Mega armour, power kaw, attack squig 115pts

Thats 6 Power fist attacks at strength 8 on the charge with a 2+ armour save!
(and before that he will kill at least 1 seeker with a twin-linked shoota!

The seekers have rending, go b4 the mek, and have an invunerable save AND immunity to instant death.

But in good humor to go for the mek I'd use 5 bloodletters.
80pts

8 Fire Warriors
80 points

I only know the old Bloodletter stats, haven't heard if they've changed at all, T4 5++ save, Power Weapons?

even though I have the upmost faith in the Mek, I'll bring this into play!

WH Immolator
Holy promethium pts: 75

It has heavy flamers that re rolls 'failed to wound' rolls, and ignores as well as cover and 4+ armour saves, and forces a moral check as if 25% of the squad died!

Beat that


M.K

Inquisitor with an Eviscerator and Artificer Armour
60

WHIIIIIIRRR!!

6 rattlings kill inquisitor 60p

5 Ork Kommandos - 75

I am away for a few days and we're back down to 75 points :(

Chaos terminator lord with combimelta and chainfist +MON -190,IIRC

25 Ork Boyz Nob w/ Bosspole and PK - 190

5 scout sentinels w/ hvy flamers 200 points

2x Obliterators
150

marneus calgar 240
LOLOLOL

Chaplain with a plasma pistol on a bike -IDK, like 145

*picks up Codex: Space Marines*
uhhhh
*flicks back and forth between pages, checking, double checking, looking at speacial abilities and equipment*
I don't get it, how does a Chaplain stand any chance against Marneus Calgar? he even has a better chance at winning in distanced combat...

so, lets see
Vendetta Gunship with Heavy Bolters
plus Veteran Guardmen with 3 Plasma Guns
255

deployed as best suits the opponent

Lotet wrote:*picks up Codex: Space Marines*
uhhhh
*flicks back and forth between pages, checking, double checking, looking at speacial abilities and equipment*
I don't get it, how does a Chaplain stand any chance against Marneus Calgar? he even has a better chance at winning in distanced combat...

so, lets see
Vendetta Gunship with Heavy Bolters
plus Veteran Guardmen with 3 Plasma Guns
255

deployed as best suits the opponent

I think calgar was a joke, hence all the lolz.

Anywho for your vendetta I'd say 6 man long fangs with 3 missile launchers and 2 lascannons
170pts.

Snikrot, 5 Kommandos, 2 Burnas - 165

5x Chaos Bikers w MoN, 2x Flamers - 225pts

braindeadmonkey wrote:Anywho for your vendetta I'd say 6 man long fangs with 3 missile launchers and 2 lascannons
170pts.

that's why I brought a Vendetta that can drop chute my plasma vets on the same turn it turbo outflanks

Brother Heinrich wrote:5x Chaos Bikers w MoN, 2x Flamers - 225pts

a pair of Daemon Princes
220 points

Lotet wrote:

braindeadmonkey wrote:Anywho for your vendetta I'd say 6 man long fangs with 3 missile launchers and 2 lascannons
170pts.

that's why I brought a Vendetta that can drop chute my plasma vets on the same turn it turbo outflanks

Brother Heinrich wrote:5x Chaos Bikers w MoN, 2x Flamers - 225pts

a pair of Daemon Princes
220 points

It's only supposed to be one unit, in which case you would have 1 demon prince in which case I'd take:
4x Chaos Bikers w/MoN and 2x PLasma Guns - 212pts

Maxed out chaos predator (With full las-cannons and extra stuff)-220

3x Obliterators - 225pts

Brother Heinrich wrote:

Lotet wrote:

braindeadmonkey wrote:Anywho for your vendetta I'd say 6 man long fangs with 3 missile launchers and 2 lascannons
170pts.

that's why I brought a Vendetta that can drop chute my plasma vets on the same turn it turbo outflanks

Brother Heinrich wrote:5x Chaos Bikers w MoN, 2x Flamers - 225pts

a pair of Daemon Princes
220 points

It's only supposed to be one unit, in which case you would have 1 demon prince in which case I'd take:
4x Chaos Bikers w/MoN and 2x PLasma Guns - 212pts

first page says I can use 5 units

Brother Heinrich wrote:3x Obliterators - 225pts

now, a pair of Daemon Princes, with Wings!
260 points

Three XV88 Broadsides with A.S.S.
Leader Has Bonding Knife, Two Sheild Drones, and just for kicks a Failsafe Detonator

295pts

Lotet, you may not use 5 different units. You may use up to 5 squads of the same unit. Your post was fine, with the pair of Demon Princes, I just wanted to clear that up.

Daemon Princes with wings can Deep Strike with "Eternal Warrior". you might be thinking of Tyranid wings but I assure you Chaos Wings let you Deep Strike
usually I just continue but you don't stand a chance

Lotet wrote:Daemon Princes with wings can Deep Strike with "Eternal Warrior". you might be thinking of Tyranid wings but I assure you Chaos Wings let you Deep Strike
usually I just continue but you don't stand a chance

Princes DS anyway thanks to demonic assault, which means i fight one at a time

and to take out either of the two
A full squad of banshees in charging range with an exarch armed with Executioner, warshout, and acrobatic
187pts

Not if they're taken as CSM.

Anidem wrote:

Lotet wrote:Daemon Princes with wings can Deep Strike with "Eternal Warrior". you might be thinking of Tyranid wings but I assure you Chaos Wings let you Deep Strike
usually I just continue but you don't stand a chance

Princes DS anyway thanks to demonic assault, which means i fight one at a time

I've never seen a 72" by 72" game board, you can't hide them all so far away, heck, if you put them in the corners then you can't run. plus, statistically, each shot has only a 42% chance of wounding with each Railgun and a 33% chance of wounding with each Missile System, that's only 2 wounds average from the entire team, then I crush them in assault. feh, with only WS2 you need a 5+ to hit in Hand to Hand, doesn't come up often does it?

Anidem wrote:and to take out either of the two
A full squad of banshees in charging range with an exarch armed with Executioner, warshout, and acrobatic
187pts

10 Shuriken Pistols= 74% chance of a wound
27 Banshees= 150% chance of a wound
3 Executioner attacks= 50% chance of a wound

yes, I think that'll do quite well. though I could just have them start the game on the board and fly into you, but you still cause the same damage with that Exarch power
(can you tell I LOVE statistics and numbers?)

now, 5 Ravenors with Deathspitters
200 points

Lotet me thinks you mis-quoted on the first one...

For the raveners I'd use a 4th ed broodlord with toxin sacs, acid maw, and flesh hooks, and extended carapace, with a squad of 5 genestealers with extended carapace and feeder tendrils.
210pts

braindeadmonkey wrote:Lotet me thinks you mis-quoted on the first one...

For the raveners I'd use a 4th ed broodlord with toxin sacs, acid maw, and flesh hooks, and extended carapace, with a squad of 5 genestealers with extended carapace and feeder tendrils.
210pts

Alright I'm going to jump out and say that you can't use units from previous editions. It's not in the rules but I figured it would be a given.

I'll go ahead and reset the unit to 5x Mega Armored Nobz - 200. Something simple to work with.

Dedrith wrote:

braindeadmonkey wrote:Lotet me thinks you mis-quoted on the first one...

For the raveners I'd use a 4th ed broodlord with toxin sacs, acid maw, and flesh hooks, and extended carapace, with a squad of 5 genestealers with extended carapace and feeder tendrils.
210pts

Alright I'm going to jump out and say that you can't use units from previous editions. It's not in the rules but I figured it would be a given.

I'll go ahead and reset the unit to 5x Mega Armored Nobz - 200. Something simple to work with.

You made me sad...

Oh well then, so for that I'd say 3 ravenwing bikers with 2 plasmaguns and a plasma pistol. I think this can do it if the overheat doesn't nerf me...

165

So I have to beat the previous post?
Easy.
13 burna boyz. 195 points

*EDIT*
damn it, braindeadmonkey beat me to it.
15 stormboyz 1 nob big choppa 195 pts

IGNORE THIS...

5 th ss assault termies- 200pts

I sent my stormboyz against you though braindeadmonkey, and for you shrike 2 big meks with SAG + 1 ammo runt for each. 196 pts
that would be fun...

Two Inquisitors with a sage and a psycannon each - 120 points.

Sorry for the double insane post, computer not agreeing with me right then...

Fafnir wrote:Two Inquisitors with a sage and a psycannon each - 120 points.

So for your inquisitors i hope that say 3x ravenwing bikers with 2 meltas can do it.
140pts

braindeadmonkey wrote:

Dedrith wrote:Alright I'm going to jump out and say that you can't use units from previous editions. It's not in the rules but I figured it would be a given.

I'll go ahead and reset the unit to 5x Mega Armored Nobz - 200. Something simple to work with.

You made me sad...

yeah, why can't we mix things up? I almost thought this would be in "Tactics" with the vibes I'm getting from you

moving on
2 Shas'ui with a pair of Fusion Blasters (Meltas) and 2 Gun Drones
1 Shas'el with Plasma Rifle, Airburting Fragmentation Projector and 2 Gun Drones
236

Deep Strike for Vindicators and the like, Start on Field for mass Orks/Tyranids and Melee for folks like the Imperial Guardsmen

Njal Stormcaller with Runic Terminator armour, 270 pts. Lord of tempests 7+ rule and 5force weapon hits, plus 2 psychic abilities per turn.

2x30 1x10 grots with 7 runtherds. 280pts
mwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

grob the immortal grot wrote:2x30 1x10 grots with 7 runtherds. 280pts
mwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Well I'm quite certain that most of those grots won't be immortal like you...

So for that I say 3 DA whirlwinds (would say a better version except that I don't know the points... ).
255pts

yes yes yes, anything like that will pulverize them, but against 1 character they are effectively death in the form of a small green carpet.

3 whirlwinds?

5x vanguard veterans- jump packs, ss , meltabombs- herioc intervention!!!

275pts

Platoon Command Squad with 3 Grenade Launcher and a Vox Caster
2 Infantry Squads, both with a Plasma Gun and Lascannon
there is one Commissar to keep them in line and one Guardsman is of course a Vox Operator
and last of all a Special Weapons team with two Flamers and a Demolishion Charge
305

Sorry Lotet, I don't think that's allowed, while the Platoon only take up one troop force orginisation slot, you've got three different UNITS and it clearly says only one type of unit is allowed in the opening rules... sorry

10 assault marines with a plasma pistol and a power weapon -225

That old favorite, LRBT w/ plas cannons and las cannon- 205 points

Cadet_Commissar_Ludd wrote:That old favorite, LRBT w/ plas cannons and las cannon- 205 points

3x zoanthropes with spore.
220

10 grotesques and a haemonculus with scissorhands and a destructor ~ 195 points

Lotet wrote:yeah, why can't we mix things up? I almost thought this would be in "Tactics" with the vibes I'm getting from you

It was previously in 40k Tactics, a mod decided to move it, however.

15 lootas 225pts

1 LR Eradicator w/ 3 heavy bolters - 180 points

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:1 LR Eradicator w/ 3 heavy bolters - 180 points

Tau Rail-Head with D pods, and burst cannons. 155pts

STR 10 AP 1 shot at 72" FTW

30 gretchin with 3 ruthherds

A monolith Deepstruck into the middle, using Gauss Flux Arc 235pts

Anidem wrote:A monolith Deepstruck into the middle, using Gauss Flux Arc 235pts

2x Battlewagon W/ Deff Rolla - 220

Dedrith wrote:

Anidem wrote:A monolith Deepstruck into the middle, using Gauss Flux Arc 235pts

2x Battlewagon W/ Deff Rolla - 220

a Big Mek with a Shokk Attack Gun, and *cough2loadeddicecough*
95 pts

After unloading the dice, Deathleaper.

140pts

Command squad w/ 3 meltaguns ~ 145 points

3 man Ravenwing attack squad with 2x flamers and a powersword.

145pts

Pelvic thrusting banewolf- 130 points

a Devil Dog (with a melta Cannon) 130 points or?

Grey Knight Grand Master 145Pts


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IG verteran squad with demolitions and x3 melta guns 130pts

Necronlord2 wrote:a Devil Dog (with a melta Cannon) 130 points or?

120 points, or give it a multi-melta and its 135...

2 hydras 150 pts

croggy wrote:2 hydras 150 pts

Basilisk with closed crew compartment.
*waves from 20 feet away*

How ya doing!

Carnifex, bog standard- 160pts

9 Fire Dragons W/ Exarch - 170

10 Assault marines with jump packs and flamer: 190

I would just love watching any of those units trying to get to the Basilisk on an Apoc board.... *grins*

But as that is not the point of this thread.....

To the 10 Assualt Marines with flamers.
Leman Russ Executioner 190 points.

How's 3 plasma templates a turn strike your power armor?

But, if Assault Marines auto come with melta bombs, and I hope they don't...

Vet Squad with grenadier, Auto cannon, x3 sniper rifles, Sergeant Bastonne, and Vox-caster
190 points.

Cambak wrote:But, if Assault Marines auto come with melta bombs, and I hope they don't...

They dont,





At the Executinor, land raider-250

5 Ork Meganobz with kombi shoota/rokkit launchas and trukk with red paint job and rokkit launcha
270 Pts



M.K

NOW can I use the Assassins!?

Officio Assassinorum Operatives: the assassins don't use 4 identical stat lines, they use the 1 so I class them as the same unit thing)
-Vindicare Assassin
-Callidus Assassin
-Eversor Assassin
325 points

Eversor can charge 12", great for outflanking, especially with Melta Bombs, Callidus appears where ever I want her and you can't even target the Vindicare until you're within his range

there's more but I'll leave it at that

Lotet wrote:NOW can I use the Assassins!?

Officio Assassinorum Operatives: the assassins don't use 4 identical stat lines, they use the 1 so I class them as the same unit thing)
-Vindicare Assassin
-Callidus Assassin
-Eversor Assassin
325 points

Eversor can charge 12", great for outflanking, especially with Melta Bombs, Callidus appears where ever I want her and you can't even target the Vindicare until you're within his range

there's more but I'll leave it at that

Creed, I out flank your out flankers with a titan....
/joke

I wish there were rules for getting inside a Titan, an Assassin could tear up the entire crew! I mean, Wazdakka did it

Back OT, at Assassins "Vanilla russ, LR Eradicator, hellhound (350- ish). The Eradicator and hellhound ignores your cover (and armour) saves, and an extra russ gives me staying power- if your vindicare can pop either of the other two with his turbo round(i've seen it fail to glance a chimera) then I have another. The Vanilla russ lets me take care of the others. Failing that, both russes can move and fire main weapons, and the hellhound can move very quickly, and shoot the flame template 12". with clever manouvering, it can be done easily (im probably overestimating the other two assassins).

I'm so dumb!!!

3 medusa with bastion breacher shells - 420 ish

5 Eversor Assassins!
475 points

Eversor has 4 +D6 attacks on the charge that can wound anything on a 4+ and ignore armour, can glance any vehicle on a 6 (like Necrons) or just toss a Melta Bomb into the works. moves like infantry but charges 12", I can use Outflank if I need to but if you claim that you have a huge table with which to hide from the edges then I'll just use a normal Infiltrate move and set up 18" from you and charge you straight off. with a 4+ Invulnerable save (and being dispersed lone models) Ordnance has a more likely chance of doing nothing. and when it comes to hoards, he explodes on death at Strength 5

Lotet wrote:5 Eversor Assassins!
475 points

Eversor has 4 +D6 attacks on the charge that can wound anything on a 4+ and ignore armour, can glance any vehicle on a 6 (like Necrons) or just toss a Melta Bomb into the works. moves like infantry but charges 12", I can use Outflank if I need to but if you claim that you have a huge table with which to hide from the edges then I'll just use a normal Infiltrate move and set up 18" from you and charge you straight off. with a 4+ Invulnerable save (and being dispersed lone models) Ordnance has a more likely chance of doing nothing. and when it comes to hoards, he explodes on death at Strength 5

Yarrick 185 points.

Power Klaw, a storm bolter, his pistol, Bale eye (Hot shot pistol in the eye) 4+ save, and you have to re roll successful hit's. WS and BS 5 3 Wounds 3 attacks base. He is Eternal Warrior and no matter how many times you knock him down, he will stand back up, 1 inch away from any enemy models.

vindicare assassin-110pts

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Cambak wrote:

Lotet wrote:5 Eversor Assassins!
475 points

Eversor has 4 +D6 attacks on the charge that can wound anything on a 4+ and ignore armour, can glance any vehicle on a 6 (like Necrons) or just toss a Melta Bomb into the works. moves like infantry but charges 12", I can use Outflank if I need to but if you claim that you have a huge table with which to hide from the edges then I'll just use a normal Infiltrate move and set up 18" from you and charge you straight off. with a 4+ Invulnerable save (and being dispersed lone models) Ordnance has a more likely chance of doing nothing. and when it comes to hoards, he explodes on death at Strength 5

Yarrick 185 points.

Power Klaw, a storm bolter, his pistol, Bale eye (Hot shot pistol in the eye) 4+ save, and you have to re roll successful hit's. WS and BS 5 3 Wounds 3 attacks base. He is Eternal Warrior and no matter how many times you knock him down, he will stand back up, 1 inch away from any enemy models.

5 Eversors can beat Yarrick enough times that he fails his Iron Will roll especially if I scatter so they can't be multi-assulted

Yarrick
Storm Bolter= 0.42 wounds
Power Klaw (charging)= 0.83 wounds
Bolt Pistol + Close Combat Weapon (charging)= 0.42 wounds

Eversor
Bolt Pistol= 0.21 wounds
Neuro-Gauntlet + Bolt Pistol (charging)= 0.94 wounds

Mozzyfuzzy wrote:vindicare assassin-110pts

Vindicare shooting at Yarrick
Exitus Rifle= 0.21 wounds
Exitus Pistol= 0.37 wounds
Hellfire Round= 0.56 wounds
Close Combat Attacks (charging)= 0.25 wounds

He causwes the same damage against either Assassin at close range
it will take Yarrick about 4 turns with running to get into Melee
all sucessful wounds against Yarrick must be re-rolled
Yarrick can come back to life on a 3+

Yarrick wins easily against a Vindicare Assassin

at 5 eversors

45 rough riders , all strike at the same time all charge 12" all wound each other on 3
same cost 475 , we are getting silly on points here like

20 conscripts and lots of 6's

Points?

Guitardian wrote:20 conscripts and lots of 6's

80 points

@at the 45 rough riders

A Squadron of 3 Armoured Sentinels. 165 points

Power weapons double Str, and you only get them first time you charge, then they break.

So you first charge gives you str 6, which can only glance my Front Armour 12, on a 6. After that, you cant touch me.

not even that good matey only st5 on charge so couldnt hurt armour 12, so they take even more of a battering

Battlecannon it phil wrote:at 5 eversors

45 rough riders , all strike at the same time all charge 12" all wound each other on 3
same cost 475 , we are getting silly on points here like

yeah, but you can only assault one at a time unless you're the person who deploys the Eversor for me

8 Rough Rider + 1 Sergent
Shooting= 0.75 wounds
Charging= 3.17 wounds
Retaliating= 0.83 wounds

Eversor
Shooting= 0.55 wounds
Charging= 3.33 wounds
Retaliating= 1.78 wounds
Bio-Meltdown (with 6 enemies left)= 3.33 wounds

*shrugs* you have Fleet, it's good. but this is a match based heavily on deployment and decisions in how many people are going to charge or hold back because the more Eversors in combat the more that will be multi-assaulted and the more Rough Riders that fight the more that will be hit with the Bio-Meltdowns and less with Hunting Lances remaining

Cambak wrote:A Squadron of 3 Armoured Sentinels. 165 points

2 Chaos Dreadnaughts with Lascannons
250

Lotet wrote:2 Chaos Dreadnaughts with Lascannons
250

Not much I can do against that Except...

2 Medusa's with with Bastion-Breacher shells. 280 points. A little over? Maybe. Worth it? Yes.

Str 10 Ap 1 Heavy 1, Blast with 2d6 armor penetration roll.

2 Space Marine Dreadnoughts with Multi-Meltas, Close Combat Weapons and Drop Pods
280

tsk tsk tsk, in this thread "ordnance" always gets beat by enemies that can easily get close

Lotet wrote:2 Space Marine Dreadnoughts with Multi-Meltas, Close Combat Weapons and Drop Pods
280

tsk tsk tsk, in this thread "ordnance" always gets beat by enemies that can easily get close

Vet squad with triple melta and Demolitions. 145 points.

You drop in, and shoot me with those multi-Meltas, my turn comes around, I shoot you point blank with meltas and then charge you, thowing melta bombs.

Also, The Meduca, wtih Mastion breacher shells, don't have a minimum range.