20 Ork Boyz, Nob w/ Big Choppa/Bosspole - 140

Cambak wrote:Also, The Meduca, wtih Mastion breacher shells, don't have a minimum range.

yes, but minimum range has nothing to do with how close your target can be to shoot at it. minimum range is only for shots over terrain that would normally prevent you from targeting an enemy so this was never part of my reasoning

the Dreadnaughts can use thier CC weapons to take you units down, I mean, any result except "Immobilize" will prevent you from shooting

Cambak wrote:Vet squad with triple melta and Demolitions. 145 points.

3 single Attack Bikes, each with Multi-Meltas
150 points

I can keep the distance till the Chimera is destroyed then turbo boost to get close, even if you get through the 3+ cover save for boosting you can only hit one Bike at at time

EDIT

Dedrith wrote:20 Ork Boyz, Nob w/ Big Choppa/Bosspole - 140

lets make it 2 Attack Bikes with Multi-Meltas and 1 with a Heavy Bolter
140 points

Genestealers squad x10 =140 pts
outflank or infiltrate right next to you you get max 1 round shooting then your dead in 3 secs.

orion194 wrote:Genestealers squad x10 =140 pts
outflank or infiltrate right next to you you get max 1 round shooting then your dead in 3 secs.

Or he can just turbo boost away and get more shooting at you.

x2 Armoured Sentinel's with heavy flamer. 120 points.

Have fun trying to get cover saves, and genestealers are what? Str 5 or str 6?

Genestealers are str 4 base and i said max one turn if i outflank i usually get the charge. If he turbo boosts he cant shoot me so he can run away but i can chase him away for ever. he is just running away which essentially neuters the unit.

orion194 wrote:Genestealers are str 4 base

In that case, you cant touch me.

They rend and I actually didnt notice you had included the chimera I forget that its considered standard but either way stealers can do it

orion194 wrote:They rend and I actually didnt notice you had included the chimera I forget that its considered standard but either way stealers can do it

Actually I didn't.

I think it's funny that every one assumed I included a Chimera when it would have increased the point cost another 55 points.

Wait my math and your math was off. triple melta vets plus demo costs 130 and I had glanced over the demo and forgot the cost of a chimera so thought you had included a chimera

Cambak wrote:x2 Armoured Sentinel's with heavy flamer. 120 points.

Wave Serpent w/TL bright lances. 135pts.

Wave Serpent w/TL bright lances. 135pts.

Wave Serpent w/TL bright lances. 135pts.

CaragaraPDF wrote:
Devil Dog + Hull mounted MM. 135pts (i think)

If you hit his rear armor, yes

A full squad of firewarriors, with exarch, and his abilities, and fireaxe? 187pts

1 mawloc 170

Ezekiel-170

I5 with power weaporn and LD10, plus a single str 6 hit can't kill me when I can take a psychic invo on your turn, and a force weapon roll on my turn.

2 hive guard forgot points but I know its less than 170
If Eziekel is not immune to instant death.

12 genestealers 168
if he is immune to instant death
oh and I 6>5 lol

ps genestelaers anwser to everthing... almost.

Kharn 5+2d6 attacks that roll 2d6 for armor pen? obvious.

1. Gorechild is not a daemon weapon.

So at Kharn I'd say: 3x Tyranid warriors with lash+bonesword and toxin sacs.

165

25 Kroot
175

Dreadnought w/ Assault cannon and TL Autocannon - 125

shasv're Broadside w/shield gen- 100 points (I think, the codex is down the back of the sofa...)

A grot

2 Grots.

Popsicle wrote:2 Grots.

My foot.

Cadet_Commissar_Ludd wrote:shasv're Broadside w/shield gen- 100 points (I think, the codex is down the back of the sofa...)

necron lord w/ destroyer body 140

12x 7 ratlings 140 pts

croggy wrote:12x 7 ratlings 140 pts

Callidus Assassin - 120 points

The Emperor. 25000pts


He hits on anything wounds on anything saves on anything.

CaragaraPDF wrote:The Emperor. 25000pts


He hits on anything wounds on anything saves on anything.

A jack ass's little kid that he brought because he had to baby sit, but still wanted to come play that day.

I think I just beat everyone's units.

the back of my hand

Cambak wrote:

CaragaraPDF wrote:The Emperor. 25000pts


He hits on anything wounds on anything saves on anything.

A jack ass's little kid that he brought because he had to baby sit, but still wanted to come play that day.

I think I just beat everyone's units.

A grot.


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Cambak wrote:

CaragaraPDF wrote:The Emperor. 25000pts


He hits on anything wounds on anything saves on anything.

A jack ass's little kid that he brought because he had to baby sit, but still wanted to come play that day.

I think I just beat everyone's units.

A grot.

that last time someone said they could beat my army through his own physical force (some clown who never bought a miniature) I just said they couldn't win because I was the Commander

now, to use something I havn't used, uhh, um

Inquisitor
Chainfist
Psycannon
Terminator Armour
Holocaust
120

NO! that'll only work if I get to deep strike second

how about...

20 Storm Boyz and Kommissar Zagstruk
325 points, probably too expensive

Cambak wrote:

CaragaraPDF wrote:The Emperor. 25000pts


He hits on anything wounds on anything saves on anything.

A jack ass's little kid that he brought because he had to baby sit, but still wanted to come play that day.

I think I just beat everyone's units.

Ok. you win.

I bet I could beat the kid too

Cambak wrote:

CaragaraPDF wrote:The Emperor. 25000pts


He hits on anything wounds on anything saves on anything.

A jack ass's little kid that he brought because he had to baby sit, but still wanted to come play that day.

I think I just beat everyone's units.

I've had just about enough of this kind of stuff. If it happens again I may very well close down the thread.

Resetting unit to 10x Tactical Marines, no upgrades - 180

10 Rough Riders one with melta. - 115

resetting again? you really do hate me don't you Dedrith? at least those are the vibes my hysteria centre is projecting into my command centre


for the sake of your argument, I'll say the Tactical Marines get only one shot at over 12"

9 Bolters= 4 wounds
5 Laspistols= 0.28 wounds
Meltagun= 0.42 wounds
13 Rough Rider Attacks (including Sergent)= 4.3 wounds
Marines Retaliate= 2.1 wounds

Results
Marines= 5 Surviving Models
Rough Riders= 4 Surviving Models

Carnifex
Heavy Venom Cannon
Mycetic Spore
225 points

Reaver Titan with Apocalypse Missle Launcher, Gatling Blaster and Laser Blaster... 1450

5 pairs of Vendetta Gunships
1300 points

Deepstriking from reserve, maybe turbo Boosting from the edges, if they come on different turns it's actually better for me. they're easily capable of not only getting under your void shields and carapace weapon (so your apocalypse Missile Launcher means nothing) but they also put you at the risk of being damaged by your own weapons and getting blasted in the back

EDIT
I also forgot, no Apocalypse units

commissar yarrick he is basically the imperials version of a space marine and a necron combined together beat that

jollycommissar wrote:commissar yarrick he is basically the imperials version of a space marine and a necron combined together beat that

Basic Vendetta, 130 points. Sure he is, but you have to reach me first.

a pair of Hydra Flak Tanks spread far apart
150

lr exterminater (the auto cannon one)

about 150pts

2 broadsides 140 points
I think.

Lotet wrote:resetting again? you really do hate me don't you Dedrith? at least those are the vibes my hysteria centre is projecting into my command centre


for the sake of your argument, I'll say the Tactical Marines get only one shot at over 12"

9 Bolters= 4 wounds
5 Laspistols= 0.28 wounds
Meltagun= 0.42 wounds
13 Rough Rider Attacks (including Sergent)= 4.3 wounds
Marines Retaliate= 2.1 wounds

Results
Marines= 5 Surviving Models
Rough Riders= 4 Surviving Models

For one thing the rough riders hit with str 6 and I5 (I think it is str6 No Codex here) on first charge. also they are power weapons. Also, your math hammering is pointless. i would bet money that not one of the things you said would happen in a real game.

come on you guys, let's be less trolly and more on topic...

It's tough to argue with a good math hammer, CaragaraPDF.

Anyway, in response to the Broadsides:

9 Ork kommandos, 1 Nob Posspole/PK - 140

CaragaraPDF wrote:

Lotet wrote:resetting again? you really do hate me don't you Dedrith? at least those are the vibes my hysteria centre is projecting into my command centre


for the sake of your argument, I'll say the Tactical Marines get only one shot at over 12"

9 Bolters= 4 wounds
5 Laspistols= 0.28 wounds
Meltagun= 0.42 wounds
13 Rough Rider Attacks (including Sergent)= 4.3 wounds
Marines Retaliate= 2.1 wounds

Results
Marines= 5 Surviving Models
Rough Riders= 4 Surviving Models

For one thing the rough riders hit with str 6 and I5 (I think it is str6 No Codex here) on first charge. also they are power weapons. Also, your math hammering is pointless. i would bet money that not one of the things you said would happen in a real game.

naw mate, you get S6 and I6 when you use Mogul Kamir, in which case the unit still costs less than the Tactical Marines
in which case it'll go down like this

9 Bolters= 4

4 Laspistols= 0.22
1 Bolt Pistol= 0.08
1 Meltagun= 0.42
(I just found out they lose thier Hunting Lance when you give them a special weapon, i.e. the Meltagun)
Rider without Lance= 0.11
4 Hunting Lances= 3.33
Mogul Kamir= 2.5
Total= 6.66 (so 7)

Surviving Marines Retaliate (including Sergent)= 1.48

Results
Marines= 3 Surviving Models
Rough Riders= 5 Surviving Models
Marines FLEE!

Dedrith wrote:It's tough to argue with a good math hammer, CaragaraPDF.

Anyway, in response to the Broadsides:

9 Ork kommandos, 1 Nob Posspole/PK - 140

9 Battle Sisters with a Heavy Flamer and a Veteran Superior with an Eviscerator

Ok Um..... An assault terminator squad with pwer claws and a landraider. Kick it suckers!

comisarmilo wrote:Ok Um..... An assault terminator squad with pwer claws and a landraider. Kick it suckers!

th/ss terminator squad in crusader w/multi melta

Ok Comissar gaunt adn his tanith men noone can bweat that they get through everything!

@ comisarmilo, very funny and very true but only include codex units and their POINTS PLEASE!

Ok guys just to remind you the rules do say no more than four units at once or this becomes beat this army which would be bad and also the count on posts total is now 1991.

Cadet_Commissar_Ludd wrote:@ comisarmilo, very funny and very true but only include codex units and their POINTS PLEASE!

Thank you.

resetting unit to 1 Land raider - 250

Ghazghkull 225pts

Vendetta - 130

Yeah, sure you can WAAAAGGGHHH!!!, but you'll never catch me.

Do we have to undercut the previous unit's cost?

If No then:
15 Lootas - 225

If Yes then:
8 Lootas - 120

Eyclonus wrote:Do we have to undercut the previous unit's cost?

If No then:
15 Lootas - 225

If Yes then:
8 Lootas - 120

What is the states for the Deffgun?

Range: 48" S:7 AP:4 Heavy: D3

Lr redeemer-250

MM Devastator squad: 4 Multi-meltas and as many marines as I can fit in under 250pts


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30 Slugga boyz Nob w/ Bosspole/PK - 220

3 Obliterators-225

Space marine Captain with storm shield and thunder hammer and jump pack. 175 pts.

11 Lootas 165pts

vindicator - 130 I think

3 necron destroyers 150.

BT assault cannon dread in drop pod - 145

a Deff Dread with 2 DNCCW (5 STR 10 Atks) 105 pts

vendetta - 3 TL lascannons 130 pts

two XV88 Broadsides, 140pts (two twin-linked Str 10 Ap 1 shots)

Devestators, 4x Missile Launchers - 150pts

RaptorsTallon wrote:Devastators, 4x Missile Launchers - 150pts

I think the Devastators would have a tough time against the Battle suits considering the AP3 of the ML and the 2+ armor on the battlesuits. Not that it's a big deal.


Anyway, in response to the Devastators: Space Marine Captain w/ Power Sword, Artificer armor, and jump pack - 150

The Avatar of khaine-150

Sternguard Squad with 10 Combi-Plasmas - 300 points

26 Shoota Boyz with a PK Nob, wearing 'eavy armour 300 points

Wait that doesn't work....

two units of 10 Lootas 300 points

Land Raider Crusader, Multi-Melta - 260pts

Whats with the Multi-Melta?

KFF Big Mek - 85pts

Battlewagon w/ Deff Rolla, RPJ, 'Ard Case, Armour Plates Big shoota - 145pts

Total 230pts

Terminator Squad with TH/SS = 400 Points

*Side Note to OP* - This is a lot of fun! But I think having a max of 1500 points is a bit over the top. I would really consider bringing it down, and see how creative people get.

Oh God. I'm gonna do it. *takes deep breath*

Complex Nob biker Squad - 1,010pts

Biker Boss - Bike, Attack Squig, Shoota-skorcha, Cybork Armour and PK - 140pts

Total 1,150pts

Nearly hit that ceiling. Probably could but would lose complexity on these bastards.

Eyclonus wrote:Oh God. I'm gonna do it. *takes deep breath*

Complex Nob biker Squad - 1,010pts

Biker Boss - Bike, Attack Squig, Shoota-skorcha, Cybork Armour and PK - 140pts

Total 1,150pts

Nearly hit that ceiling. Probably could but would lose complexity on these bastards.

Wow, that was pretty damn close!

But I thought we were just allowed to pick one unit? Is the Biker Boss considered an HQ choice? Pretty sure he'd count as another unit, if he is...

I thought the limit was max of four. As most things work better as synergies, the KFF Mek and BWagon for example. In fact two or more units working together kinda underpins the entire gameplay of 40k.

Incidently I left out the details on the nob bikers because its nearly 2am and the list horribly long at 10 bikers.

Also try to beat that without breaking 1,000 or using more than 2 units. Its not really possible.

Here goes anyway:

2x15 Brunas - 450 points

2xBattlewagon w/RPJ and Shoota - 200 points

Total 650 points.
It will chew through them provided they get the first shot in.

ccs - 4 melta guns,carapice,pwr wpn [120] in valkyrie with MRP, HB,lascannon[155]
melta vets - 3melta guns,demolitions,pwr wpn [140] in valkyrie with MRP, HB,lascannon[155]
3demolishers - plasma sponson,hull lascannon [660]
plus extra valkyrie to fill out squad [155]

total 1385- close but no cigar

croggy wrote:ccs - 4 melta guns,carapice,pwr wpn [120] in valkyrie with MRP, HB,lascannon[155]
melta vets - 3melta guns,demolitions,pwr wpn [140] in valkyrie with MRP, HB,lascannon[155]
3demolishers - plasma sponson,hull lascannon [660]
plus extra valkyrie to fill out squad [155]

total 1385- close but no cigar

Only one type of unit may be used in a single post. This is not "beat this army". Also, try to keep your point value close to (or under) that of the previous post.

Resetting unit to 20x Ork boyz Nob w/ Pk/Bosspole - 160

- 20 Orkz /w Nob /w pk and boss pole

Valkyrie Assault Carrier - 140 points
/w Two Multiple Rocket Pods and Sponson Heavy Bolters

You can Only move so fast.

- Valkyrie Assault Carrier


Vendetta Gunship - No upgrades
130 Points.

- Vendetta Gunship, No Upgrades

Land Speeder with 2 Multi-melta's - 80 Points

Veteran Squad with 3 Meltaguns - 90 Points.

Valkyrie wrote:Veteran Squad with 3 Meltaguns - 90 Points.

(You're actually 10 points under.... But no biggie... )

Tactical Squad of 5, Sgt with a Storm Bolter - 100 Points

Rurouni Benshin wrote:Tactical Squad of 5, Sgt with a Storm Bolter - 100 Points

Deff Dredd w/ 4 DCCW - 105 points

Eyclonus wrote:

Rurouni Benshin wrote:Tactical Squad of 5, Sgt with a Storm Bolter - 100 Points

Deff Dredd w/ 4 DCCW - 105 points

5x Tankbustas 1 Nob W/ PK - 100

Land Speeder, Typhoon Missile Launcher: 90pts

You can't kill what you can't catch.

RaptorsTallon wrote:Land Speeder, Typhoon Missile Launcher: 90pts.

10 Lootas - 150pts

Why the feth should I move my lazy arse when I can kill you from the far edge of the board?

Land raider crusader 250

Eyclonus wrote:10 Lootas - 150pts

Sternguard Squad of 5, No upgrades - 125 Points

Rurouni Benshin wrote:

Eyclonus wrote:10 Lootas - 150pts

Sternguard Squad of 5, No upgrades - 125 Points

Ninja!

EagleArk wrote:

Rurouni Benshin wrote:

Eyclonus wrote:10 Lootas - 150pts

Sternguard Squad of 5, No upgrades - 125 Points

Ninja!

Pirates.

Rurouni Benshin wrote:

EagleArk wrote:

Rurouni Benshin wrote:

Eyclonus wrote:10 Lootas - 150pts

Sternguard Squad of 5, No upgrades - 125 Points

Ninja!

Pirates.

Ninja Pirates!

RaptorsTallon wrote:

Rurouni Benshin wrote:

EagleArk wrote:

Rurouni Benshin wrote:

Eyclonus wrote:10 Lootas - 150pts

Sternguard Squad of 5, No upgrades - 125 Points

Ninja!

Pirates.

Ninja Pirates!

I got nothing....

Well, in an attempt to get back OT, I'll post another unit to defeat my own.

Howling Banshees, unit of 5 with Exarch - 108 points

9 Rough riders w/ power sword...105pts king-me.

10 Lootas - 150pts

(90pts)Psyker battle squad w/ 8 psykers
(55pts)chimera transport w/ multi laser, heavy bolter
=145pts

king-newmic wrote:9 Rough riders w/ power sword...105pts king-me.

I don't know how effective they'd be against Howling Banshees, TBH... Even without the charge, Banshees have a higher Initiative, and they still get 2 attacks each.

Might want to re-think your move there...

Maybe, but i like to trust in my proud men to do their job and show those banshees what for!
besides im a sucker for a glorious charge that acomplishes nothing.

king-newmic wrote:Maybe, but i like to trust in my proud men to do their job and show those banshees what for!
besides im a sucker for a glorious charge that acomplishes nothing.

I hear you on that! For more on Rough Riders and my experiences with them, checkout a thread called "Epic Fail". I share a little story about that...

Back OT:

Librarian in Terminator Armor with Storm Shield and Melta Bombs - 145 Points
- Psychic Powers: Vortex of Doom and Avenger

Rurouni Benshin wrote:Librarian in Terminator Armor with Storm Shield and Melta Bombs - 145 Points
- Psychic Powers: Vortex of Doom and Avenger

Asurmen - 230 pts

5 power weapon attacks, each one that lands forces a leadership check or you die. With fearless, eternal warrior, a 2+ armor and a 4+invuln.

Space Marine Venerable Dreadnought with Twin-Linked Lascannon = 195 Points
I only chose the Lascannon 'cos it's what I used to use and I can't remember the costs for the other weapons, I think with an Assault Cannon it was 165, if it was I'll have that

A fireprism 150pts

Anidem wrote:A fireprism 150pts

x2 Hydra 150 points

Skimmer say WHAT?

Cambak wrote:

Anidem wrote:A fireprism 150pts

x2 Hydra 150 points

Skimmer say WHAT?

two fire prisms 300 pts

Anidem wrote:

Cambak wrote:

Anidem wrote:A fireprism 150pts

x2 Hydra 150 points

Skimmer say WHAT?

two fire prisms 300 pts

Four Hydras! 300

2 in each squadron, each squadron firing at a Fire Prism!

2x10 Lootas 300pts - They solve all kinds of problems... Which is why I'm surprised someone put sternguard as Lootas take down units that small very easily.

Eyclonus wrote:2x10 Lootas 300pts -

Ironclad Dreadnought with 2 Heavy Flamers - 150 Points

Master of the forge, Conversion Beamer, Space Marine Bike - 155pts

On the opposite side of the board.

Land Speeder with 2 Multi-melta's - 80 Points

Land Speed with 2 Multi-melta's - 80 Points

10 Lootas - 150 points

1 Mawloc=170pts

Hmmm...

Complex Biker Nobs 1,010 points

What else could I kill that worm with?

A few more in the complex biker Nobs : 1,060pts

RaptorsTallon wrote:A few more in the complex biker Nobs : 1,060pts

4 LRBTs - 600

Also, try to avoid posting units like this.

One lucky Necron Warrior -12pts

Well if we were to list all the wargear on Complex Bikers it would be quite time consuming. So is this a ban on Complex Bikers, or a Ban on going over their squad size as I'm just using the somewhat standard 10 size build, which makes RaptorsTallon's post awkward...

2 units of 4 Deffkoptas, w/ TL-Rokkits and Buzzsaws - 560 points


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Umm how on earth is four LRBT going to deal with an 18 inch charge stranght 9 PK unit?

ChrisCP wrote:Umm how on earth is four LRBT going to deal with an 18 inch charge stranght 9 PK unit?

I don't know, maybe the fact that there are four of them, shooting each turn when 1 blast would drop the majority of the Nob squad. Unless I'm missing something (which is indeed possible) It seems like a clear victory to me.

Anyway, in response to the Deffkoptas:

2 Vanilla Land Raiders W/ Multi-meltas - 520

4 Land Raiders, Mulit-Meltas: 1040pts

Dedrith wrote:

ChrisCP wrote:Umm how on earth is four LRBT going to deal with an 18 inch charge stranght 9 PK unit?

I don't know, maybe the fact that there are four of them, shooting each turn when 1 blast would drop the majority of the Nob squad. Unless I'm missing something (which is indeed possible) It seems like a clear victory to me.

Anyway, in response to the Deffkoptas:

2 Vanilla Land Raiders W/ Multi-meltas - 520

Biker Nobz can turbo boost 24" for a 3+ Cover save and have a 4+ cover save from all the dust and smog they make on thier way, you're hardly gonna be as deadly as you want to be

RaptorsTallon wrote:4 Land Raiders, Mulit-Meltas: 1040pts

22 Ork Trukks with Reinforced Rams and Rokkit Launchas
990 points

RaptorsTallon, I would appreciate it if you stopped with the point hikes, you're supposed to keep the point value close to that of the previous post.

Also in regard to the biker VS LRBT discussion: Right, I forgot about the cover saves, still, the bikers couldn't last long enough to kill all of the LRBTs. If my calculations are correct, I would get 10 shots at the nobz before they charged my last tank, assuming they charged AND killed one each turn after the first, so it's still a pretty low estimate.

Anyway, back to the Trukks. Lotet, I gotta say I was not expecting that. While it was a bit over my unit size restrictions, I still admire your creativity.

3 units of 5 terminators each with 1 Cyclone Missile Launcher - 690

3x Devestators with 4x lascannons: 690pts

RaptorsTallon wrote:3x Devestators with 4x lascannons: 690pts

I assume you mean 12 lascannons,

The night bringer and the deciver 660 odd points, if i cant do that just the nightbringer 350points.

EagleArk wrote:

RaptorsTallon wrote:3x Devestators with 4x lascannons: 690pts

I assume you mean 12 lascannons,

The night bringer and the deciver 660 odd points, if i cant do that just the nightbringer 350points.

Yes 4 lascannons per squad.

10 Mega-nobz, trukk w/ rpj and stikkbomb chuka + 5 Mega-nobz 665pts

Dedrith wrote:RaptorsTallon, I would appreciate it if you stopped with the point hikes, you're supposed to keep the point value close to that of the previous post.

Also in regard to the biker VS LRBT discussion: Right, I forgot about the cover saves, still, the bikers couldn't last long enough to kill all of the LRBTs. If my calculations are correct, I would get 10 shots at the nobz before they charged my last tank, assuming they charged AND killed one each turn after the first, so it's still a pretty low estimate.

Query: Were you running them as 4 separate LRBTs or Squadrons?

Wasn't the point of this to beat the previous unit with in it's price range, not by several hundred?

Eyclonus wrote:

Dedrith wrote:RaptorsTallon, I would appreciate it if you stopped with the point hikes, you're supposed to keep the point value close to that of the previous post.

Also in regard to the biker VS LRBT discussion: Right, I forgot about the cover saves, still, the bikers couldn't last long enough to kill all of the LRBTs. If my calculations are correct, I would get 10 shots at the nobz before they charged my last tank, assuming they charged AND killed one each turn after the first, so it's still a pretty low estimate.

Query: Were you running them as 4 separate LRBTs or Squadrons?

Yep, 4 Seperate LRBTs. I know it doesn't fit in the FOC, but while encouraged, your post doesn't have to.

10 Mega-nobz, trukk w/ rpj and stikkbomb chuka + 5 Mega-nobz 665pts

3 thunderfire cannons 300pts. a little low points wise but will blow them away before they reach all 3.

Ninjabiscuit wrote:

10 Mega-nobz, trukk w/ rpj and stikkbomb chuka + 5 Mega-nobz 665pts

3 thunderfire cannons 300pts. a little low points wise but will blow them away before they reach all 3.

A full squad of XV88 Broadsides, at max range 210pts

Sternguard Squad with 5 Comb-Melta's, in a Drop Pod - 185 Points

6 fire dragons. poor wired up ork

vindicator with a lucky shot into cover. 115 pts. for the sternguard, i've killed fire warriors with vengence rounds.

Sabatine wrote:vindicator with a lucky shot into cover. 115 pts. for the sternguard, i've killed fire warriors with vengence rounds.

1 Vindicator vs 6 Fire Dragons is hardly a sure win....

At any rate, back OT:

- Vindicator -

Land Speeder Squadron of 2, 2 Multi-melta's each - 160 points

I would love to counter that with screamers, just to add something new, but i missplaced my Daemon Codex


5 Lootas 215 pts

2 talos 200pts

i think that should do it

i hope lol just trying to add new units

thread revived!!!!!

Mephiston 250

Captain Lysander - 200 Points (approximately)

5 THSS terminators

200

6 TH SS Terminators 240


lolz

LR Executioner with Plasmacannon Sponsons - 230pts

2x Master of the forge, conversion beamer - 240pts

Mephiston

250

l0l

infantry squad 30 man blob - 3 plasma guns ,commissar, 4 power weapons - 270 pts (i think )

9 fiends of slaneesh 270

54 str 5 attacks on the charge


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2 Leman Russes - Heavy Bolter Sponsons - 280 points.

:EDIT:

Ignore please, I messed up.

S_p

2 ravagers - 3 dark lances - 210 pts

Valkyrie wrote:2 Leman Russes - Heavy Bolter Sponsons - 280 points.

3 XV88 Broadside Battlesuits. 210pts.

Three twin-linked strength 10 ap 1 bullets IN YO FACE! And that from 72" away!

Suicidal Cheez wrote:

Valkyrie wrote:2 Leman Russes - Heavy Bolter Sponsons - 280 points.

3 XV88 Broadside Battlesuits. 210pts.

Three twin-linked strength 10 ap 1 bullets IN YO FACE! And that from 72" away!

The Leman Russes Main battle cannon is also about to shoot you from 72" away!

10 Bloodletters. 160pts

2x Predator, Heavy Bolters: 170pts

A piranha light skimmer team (2x) armed with fusion blasters 130pts

Suicidal Cheez wrote:A piranha light skimmer team (2x) armed with fusion blasters 130pts

8 Ork Lootas - 120pts.

S_P

Assuming it's a normal board with the correct amount of terrain and standard set up

5 ymgarl stealers 115, although dawn of war might be touch and go

the looters would bum them all over

?? The ymgarls can assault when they appear.

Only problem is they'll strike last, as they dont have grenades IRC... correct me if I'm wrong.

Monolith 235 pts

5 vanguard veterans, meltabomb, scout biker w/ locator beacon- drop beacon, vanguard vets. arrive, assault with meltabomb. 275pts.

6's to glance with Meltabomb's isn't quite a sure thing.

I would say WraithLord would be much more effective

mulkers wrote:6's to glance with Meltabomb's isn't quite a sure thing.

I would say WraithLord would be much more effective

you still only get 1D6 penatration

Again, 3 Broadside Battlesuits. 210 pts. Best way to knock down a Monolith and make sure it STAYS down.

For Vanguard+Biker?
5 Assault Terminators - 3 TH/SS 2 Twin LCs. - 200

okay then- 5 vanguard veterans, 5 meltabombs, thunder hammer. 5x S8+2D6 hits, and you can't run away because of the thunder hammer.
P.S: 230pts


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Pvt. Jet wrote:Again, 3 Broadside Battlesuits. 210 pts. Best way to knock down a Monolith and make sure it STAYS down.

For Vanguard+Biker?
5 Assault Terminators - 3 TH/SS 2 Twin LCs. - 200

For 3x th ss, 2 lc?
5x Assault terminators- 5 th/ss!

15 Howling Banshees
240 points.

Oops! Forget that. The Master of the Forge with a Conversion Beamer and a bike will do fine here. ~150 IIRC

1 trygon 200 pts

The Imperator wrote:1 trygon 200 pts

*sudders*

So... many... gaunts....

NOOO!!!!


*cries in corner*

Vendetta /w sponson heavy bolters - 140 points?

3 twin linked las cannons *even if they only hit on a 4, your still hitting*

2 heavy bolters?

You can have your Trygon, it will never get in assault range.

Heavy Destroyer 65 pts

1 Zoanthrope 60 pts

10x Ork Boyz :60pts

I think this would work.

RaptorsTallon wrote:10x Ork Boyz :60pts

I think this would work.

predator:70 points

EagleArk wrote:

RaptorsTallon wrote:10x Ork Boyz :60pts

I think this would work.

predator:70 points

A predator is 60pts

Multimelta attack bike - 50pts

RaptorsTallon wrote:

EagleArk wrote:

RaptorsTallon wrote:10x Ork Boyz :60pts

I think this would work.

predator:70 points

A predator is 60pts

Even better.

Furioso Dreadnought

scubasteve04 wrote:Multimelta attack bike - 50pts

1 Thunderwolf cavalry, wolf claw 55

scubasteve04 wrote:Multimelta attack bike - 50pts

Squad of conscripts 30pts

6 ratling snipers 60

Land Speeder Tornado with Heavy Flamer -60pts

6x Rough Riders-65 points

ChrisWWII wrote:6x Rough Riders-65 points

How does 6 str 5 power weapons (On first charge) beat a Land Speeder Tornado?

Cambak wrote:

ChrisWWII wrote:6x Rough Riders-65 points

How does 6 str 5 power weapons (On first charge) beat a Land Speeder Tornado?

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They don't...I posted that thinking I was responding to the Ratlings. Oops.

EmilCrane wrote:Land Speeder Tornado with Heavy Flamer -60pts

Hydra Flak Tank- 75pts

scubasteve04 wrote:

EmilCrane wrote:Land Speeder Tornado with Heavy Flamer -60pts

Hydra Flak Tank- 75pts

Platoon Command Squad w/ 3x Melta 60 pts

1 Zoanthrope 60pts.

Deathrain Crisis Commander - 78 Points
Orbital Bombardment- Priceless

5 Shining Spears=175

Leman Russ
- Plasma Cannons

160-170

Veterans w/ 2 Melta Guns & Chimera

145

4 Death Company
- 2 Thunder Hammers
- 2 Hand Flamers

160

5 long fangs, 4 plasma cannons 155

Basilisk-125 points

2 landspeeders, MM 120

5x Terminators, Cyclone Missile Launcher 230pts

10 banshees w/ Executioner Exarch

Nulipuli2 wrote:10 banshees w/ Executioner Exarch

How Many Points Is This Please?

Replying against the termis as i dont know the points of the eldar.

5xSanguary guard 200

Each has 2 power weapon attacks that are master crafted, terminaters won`t get to strike.

Assuming Sanguinary Guard have 3+

Leman Russ Battle Tank-150pts

ChrisWWII wrote:Assuming Sanguinary Guard have 3+

Leman Russ Battle Tank-150pts

They have a 2+ armor, and jetpacks, still cant hurt you though...

They can't hurt rear armor 10? Even basic marines with no grenades can hurt rear armor 10.

Ok, but since they have 2+ armor, I'll change my choice anyway....

Medusa-`135 points

ChrisWWII wrote:

Medusa-`135 points

3 Screamers of Tzeentch 48 points.

ChrisWWII wrote:They can't hurt rear armor 10? Even basic marines with no grenades can hurt rear armor 10.

Ok, but since they have 2+ armor, I'll change my choice anyway....

Medusa-`135 points

Oh? I thought that LR had rear armour 12?

Russes are 14/13/10

EagleArk wrote:

ChrisWWII wrote:They can't hurt rear armor 10? Even basic marines with no grenades can hurt rear armor 10.

Ok, but since they have 2+ armor, I'll change my choice anyway....

Medusa-`135 points

Oh? I thought that LR had rear armour 12?

Maybe back in 4th Edition...

Replying from the 3 Screamers:

3 Kabalite Trueborn
- 3 Shardcarbines

51 Points

That sort of explains my last post, anyways they can have melta pistols for some points, not all bad.

Thunderfire Cannon: 100pts

mulkers wrote:

scubasteve04 wrote:Multimelta attack bike - 50pts

Squad of conscripts 30pts

you do know you're hitting on 5's, wounding on 6's, and he has 3 attacks on the charge?

NOt to mention Conscripts are 80 points, not 30....

But thunderfire cannon? Hydra Flak Tank-75 pts

2 Wolf Guard Terminators, SS/TH, Twin LC ~100 (Codex is m.i.a.)

Special Weapons Squad, 3x Plasma Gun, Demo Charge: 100 pts

Ravager

- 3 Disintegrator Cannons

105 points.

RaptorsTallon wrote:

Nulipuli2 wrote:10 banshees w/ Executioner Exarch

How Many Points Is This Please?

187 points

X4 Space Wolf Terminators with Wolf Claws and Storm Shields +1 Wolf Lord Terminator with an Assault Cannon.

points?

That list is approximately 300 pts

Doom of Malantai 90 pts

What is with all these new posters making random lists that are like 10x higher than the post they're trying to beat? Remember the Calgar Death Star post?

But DoM? Veterans w/ 3x Plasma: 100 pts

7 Genestealers 98 points

6 Kabalite Trueborn

- 6 Shardcarbines

110 points.

5 sternguard

125

8 Hollowing Banshees 128 pts

leman russ battle tank - 150 (I think)

Vendetta-130 pts

5 Long Fangs 4 Missile Launchers 115 points

5xYmgarl Genstealers
115 Points

Just when you thought it was safe to deploy in cover...

Land Speeder w/ 2x HF

x2

120

BURN, BABY BURN!!

Hydra Flak Tank- 75 pts

scout squad w/ meltabombs infiltrating/ outflanking- 80pts

Again, Land Speeder with heavy flamer- 50pts

Space Wolf Terminator with Thunder Hammer - ~50 points

2 sternguard veterans with combi-plasma 60 points

Infantry squad with Autocannon and grenade launcher- 65 points

scout bike squad- 70pts

(you need 5's to hit, 6's to wound, and I have 4+ armour, and TL AP5 boltguns)


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sub-zero wrote:The mother of all units, I actually play this exact unit in my army:

Marneus Calgar
10 man honor gaurd including company champion, company standard bearer, and Cassius (chaplain)
in a Land Raider Crusader
1170 points for one uber-unit!!!

Terminus wrote:Swing and a miss.

I'm starting to think this thread could be a viable form of intelligence testing.

Dedrith wrote:

Terminus wrote:Swing and a miss.

I'm starting to think this thread could be a viable form of intelligence testing.

No kidding..

sub-zero, Please read the rules. Next to post, Please ignore sub-zero's unit.

sub-zero wrote:
ooooookay...I read the rules before I made my initial post. Let's say that Marneus doesn't use his orbital strike, does the unit fall into your strick guidlines now?

NO! YOU'RE TRYING TO BEAT A 135-POINT UNIT WITH A UNIT THAT'S ROUGHLY EQUAL POINTS! orbital strike doesn't matter- you're using a 1170 point unit to counter a 135 point one!

and, BTW- the HONOUR GUARD doesn't carry the COMPANY standard- they carry the CHAPTER standard- the COMPANY command squad carries the COMPANY standard. Pillock.

9 Genestealers - 144

6's Rend

10 lootas 150pts

25 Ork Boyz - 150 pts


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3 Chaos termies, with Heavy flamer+ 2 power fists and 1 combi melta

150 points

Monolith 235. Don't have a lassy cannon? I think I win

Darnath Lysander - 200 Points.

Str 10 with a +1 bonus on the Damage chart. No need for a Lascannon here.

Against the monolith:
2x Wolf Guard terminator with a Thunder hammer - 100 points:

yeah ok... i win now

Against Darnath Lysander: Abaddon the despoiler - 250

Dashyl wrote:Against the monolith:
2x Wolf Guard terminator with a Thunder hammer - 100 points:

yeah ok... i win now

Against Darnath Lysander: Abaddon the despoiler - 250

Pretty sure Abaddon is 275...

My counter for him: Hive Tyrant, with Acid Blood and Adrenal Glands. Psychic Powers: Paroxysm and Psychic Scream: 195 Points.

Skulltaker on chariot (just to be sure) 160 points. (IGNORE, LOOK ABOVE)

edit: Ninja-ed :(
And i think he is 255

Death Company Tycho - 175 Points

Oops your right

Chaos Lord Gir wrote:3 Chaos termies, with Heavy flamer+ 2 power fists and 1 combi melta

150 points

I can't stop watching your avatar, it's hypnotic...

Leman Russ Battletank w/ Lascannon: 165 pts

5x Sternguard, 5x Combi melta, drop pod- 185pts

Dashyl wrote:Against the monolith:
2x Wolf Guard terminator with a Thunder hammer - 100 points:

yeah ok... i win now

Against Darnath Lysander: Abaddon the despoiler - 250

Gona go a bit off topic sadly, but just wondering why that beats a Monolith. Sorry I have not played 40k much because of fantasy 8th being the bestest ever lol. Monolith doesn't let you have multiple dice for pen and dont those marines weapons only double your str from 4 to 8? You can only glance in that case. I've had those issues brought up at so many games lol. They are a scary unit though touche

Veterans w/ 3x Plasma Gun, Carapace Armor: 145

And I don't know....Lysander might be able to beat the Monolith though

Valkyrie wrote:

Chaos Lord Gir wrote:3 Chaos termies, with Heavy flamer+ 2 power fists and 1 combi melta

150 points

I can't stop watching your avatar, it's hypnotic...

I know, the amount of hours I have lost to it.

Thunder hammers that terminators swing are strength 10 i believe i'll have to check my codex to double check so it pens on 4's

Dashyl wrote:Thunder hammers that terminators swing are strength 10 i believe i'll have to check my codex to double check so it pens on 4's

Unfortunately, you are incorrect... Normal Thunder Hammers function exactly like a Power Fist, with the added bonus that any "Damaged" result on the Damage Chart also adds a "Crew Shaken" result, and any creature that is wounded by it will strike at Init 1 on the following turn (assuming it survives until then).

Lysander's Thunder Hammer (aka: "The Fist of Dorn") is a special Thunder Hammer that strikes at Str 10 AND adds +1 to the roll of a Damage Chart (like an "AP 1 weapon" would)

Also, I don't know if Abaddon would be the perfect counter to Lysander either... That's more of a 50/50 match, IMHO. If Abaddon were to get the Assault, then I'd give him a slight edge, but if Lysander charges, it'll be closer. Either way, I don't see Abaddon as the absolute winner.

At the vets.

3x`cron destroyers-150

Just stay out your range firing till you die.

6 Long Fangs, 5 Missile Launchers 140

termie libby w/ss, vortex of doom and the avenger. Deep-strike.

4 THSS terminators 160

Terminator librarian w/ss null zone & smite- 140

5 inq stormtroopers, 2x plasma gun 70

5 inq stormtroopers, 2x plasma gun 70

= 140

Jabbdo wrote:5 inq stormtroopers, 2x plasma gun 70

5 inq stormtroopers, 2x plasma gun 70

= 140

Vindicator = 115 Points

HWS, 3x Lascannon: 105 pts

Hydra Flak Tank 75

How does a hydra beat 3 lascannons?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but your suppose to beat the unit right? Hydra flak tank will kill a HWS.

It depends on who shoots first. 3 Lascannons? That'll kill a Hydra no problem. But 4 twin linked autocannon shots will kill a HWS no problem.

...And somehow I feel we've had this debate before in this thread.

@ Hydra
(tough one, I love hydras and at 75 points a pop, its to good to miss)

2 Outflanking Scout sentinel, one with multi laser, one with auto cannon- 75 points I believe (Codex not on hand)

Multimelta attack bike - 60pts


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1 Zoanthrope =60 pts

10 outflanking vanilla genestealers 140 pts

2x Hydra Flak Tank (150 pts)

5x devs with 3 lascannons - 195

EagleArk wrote:5x devs with 3 lascannons - 195

5 Thousand Sons and 1 Aspiring Sorcerer with Doombolt - 185pts

Forgotmytea wrote:5 Thousand Sons and 1 Aspiring Sorcerer with Doombolt - 185pts

Leman Russ Battle Tank, with Hull Heavy Flamer - 150 points

Stormtroopers w/ 2x Melta Gun (Airborne Assault): 105 pts

Edited once I remembered ST can only take 2 special weapons.

5 droppodded sternguard 140pti

Ironclad Dreadnought - 140pts

Wraithlord with Bright Lance & Wraithsword - 140

Skulltaker 160

1 units of boys, 29 plus nob w/PK, BP 214

unite all action wrote:1 units of boys, 29 plus nob w/PK, BP 214

Fire Prism with Star Engines - 130pts

x2 hydra flak tanks- 140 pts

It's a 150 points actually

Medusa: 130 pts

Land Raider 250...

IT'S DOUBLE THE POINTS.
Lysander 200pts

Land raider - 250

2 Ravagers
- Nightshield
- Flickerfield - 250

shrike wrote: IT'S DOUBLE THE POINTS.

It would win though


30 ork boy mob (Nob w/PK/BP) 220

POST POINTS!!!ARGH!!!!!!!!!

Rodgers: The point isn't that a Land Raider could beat a Medusa, it's to try and choose a unit LESS THAN OR EQUAL the points value of the previous unit. It's no surprise that something can kill something worth half it's point value. Anyone can realize that. The point of this game is to make something equal or lesser than that point value that will still win.

Edit: And if the Medusa gets the first shot off, it'll probably kill the Land Raider.

Against the Boyz:

3 Whirlwinds
- 255

Can 3 Whirlwinds be taken as one unit?

But in any case.....2x Medusas: 260 pts.

ChrisWWII wrote:Can 3 Whirlwinds be taken as one unit?

But in any case.....2x Medusas: 260 pts.

9 Fire Dragons in a Wave Serpent with twin-linked ShuriCans - 244pts

This thread is great fun

Edit: someone beat me to the Medusae

Against the Fire Dragons

Monolith - 235

Boring? Yes. Effective? Yes

This was a reply to the Broadsides, which no longer exist, so nvmd.

Valkyrie wrote:Monolith - 235

Boring? Yes. Effective? Yes

Oh heck yeah

ChrisWWII wrote:2x Medusa: 260

Back on the Medusae again, heh. I'll avoid simply replying with my beloved Dragons again and go for...

5 Necron Destroyers at 250pts. Sure, it'll take a while, but they will glance you slowly to death

Manticore-160 pts