@Rogue Wolves - thanks

@LeBaron - cheers!!



I gave the doom grot legs now he's run off!!!

So I got on with the defiler job.

The choas missile launchers mount is perfect to hold my mega cannon.

Biohazzard's mega titan saw, is the insperation for the CCW. You should check it out, he's using many GW vehicles to create a very cool titan. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/399556.page

I'm gona make a bigger saw, as this ork one is way too small or I try to make it into a chain fist, just need to make loads of teeth.







The feet are the next main job.

Could do with some advice on da feet!!!!!

That's still looking good Tipios! I like the concept of the buzz saw arm, but a huge chainfist would be sweet!

@Rsjake - Thanks I think if I get a few more of these ork saws I can cut them up to make the chain fist!

The Defiler toes can be used for the feet. The saw from the Deff Dread kit is a pretty nice bit. It's a bit bigger than the one you have. Thanks for linking my thread buddy.

tipios wrote:Could do with some advice on da feet!!!!!

What about using the Defiler's original "Gorilla claws" as feet? Put the "fingers" on backwards and presto, instant feet

On a related note, that's a seriously awesome model you're working on there! Not quite sold on the position of the Manticore head yet, but apart from that it's brilliant already!

@biohazzard - Thanks, I'm going to try and make a chain fist, using the teeth from the saw I've got.

@Kraut - Thanks, Will try that.


Doom grot has now got knee joints

This is look I'm going for. After Hyenajoe suggested turning the termie legs into stilts.



I need to make steps for his tiny feet to go on, and also make some feet to go on the end of the robot legs.

Ha ha! Yes! Looking good! He almost looks scared! Like "What did they strap me into?!?!"

HA yeah, or he's really trying to keep his balance

Liking so far. For feet, you could use Dreadknight feet.

Also, the cannon arm needs more bulk. It looks a bit flimsy at present.

Have you thought about using sentinel feet? Or would they be too big?

@squig - I will look at the dreadknight feet. More work for the arm, pipes and pistons I think

@rsjake - I've got a broken sentinal foot with no toes, it is a little big but I think that will add to the fun

Going for the chain fist on the Defilier.

And this is how I'm doing it.

Using what I think is a Stompa saw thing.

Just cut out half the teeth.

And we have a chainsaw looking piece, just need another one to complet it.



Oh and I really want to finish of the IW dread. Just some Hazzard stripes on the legs, and gold trims to do. Ohh and OSL plasma gun and eyes/

Ahhh I see its a lot bigger than I thought. Looking good so far mate

Biohazard wrote:Ahhh I see its a lot bigger than I thought. Looking good so far mate

Those parts you sent me are very cool, and because of that, I'm entering a Killa can into the ork vehicle building contest it will be dedicated to you

Really nice start on the chain blade!

Cheers RS, it seems a very easy way of getting a very big chainfist

Yeah! and the way you did it, it looks like a chain and sprocket system! Very convincing!

cool chainsaw!

@rsjake - cheers again

@Wolves - thanks

Im changing thecannon arm on the defiler.
I think I'm gona go with this arm instead. It would make him more balanced.


I might change the head too, for a mechanical one! What do you chaps think?

God I've missed your updates Tipios!

You do come up with some of the most awesome conversions

Liking the new cannon arm and as much as I hate to say it I think a mechanical head would suit this better.

WOW that arm looks really cool! and a mechanical head ^ would definatly push the coolness meter up!

@knightley - Thanks a lot matey!!

@biohazzard - thanks, yeah I think I've got to go mechanical, then I can make a mini version of your titan head

@rogue wolves - thanks Hows your Titan coming?

Can't believe I only just realised your back! Yay!

Definately prefer the new arm. And a mechanical head would be much better. How about a Juggernaut head, or the horned Defiler head?

tipios,

really digging the chainsaw arm and the bigger beefier looking autocannon!

where did you get the skull helm for your dread?

@matt - ha, Yeah just got back, and though a nice way to get the juices flowing again, would be your competition. I don't know how I missed it, as it started last year

@squigs - I'm looking at he jugger head, that may be too small, we shall see

@zeke - thanks, the IW dread head, is a chaos shoulder pad cut down.

Hmm, you know, the problem might not be with the Manticore head per se but rather with its position: You yould try placing it a little higher for starters. Personally speaking, I would try a mechanical one as well as the Manticore one with a changed position and then decide what works best.

The idea was that he was trying to escape the defilier with chains on him to hold him in. Now the arms are on it dosn't seem to work, will try higher position

Ok. Head on top, and seeing if 4 arms are better than 2!!





And here's before!! Which does Dakka prefer?

I'd say that 4 arms looks decidedly cooler, and the head on top looks.. cleaner I think.

I like the 4 arms! But the front ones seem to be in an odd possition, but I know you will make the connection to the torso look flawless, and look amazing! I like it.

Sorry for being a killjoy, but in my opinion the model looks much better with two arms than with four. You have managed to make something awesome from the Defiler parts without it looking like a typical, goofy Defiler. By adding the two extra arms, you would fall into the trap you tried so carefully to avoid in my opinion.

About the head: Maybe you should try a position halfway between both versions: Not inside the stomach, but a bit higher, about where that elastic band is in the new version.

KrautScientist wrote:Sorry for being a killjoy, but in my opinion the model looks much better with two arms than with four. You have managed to make something awesome from the Defiler parts without it looking like a typical, goofy Defiler. By adding the two extra arms, you would fall into the trap you tried so carefully to avoid in my opinion.

About the head: Maybe you should try a position halfway between both versions: Not inside the stomach, but a bit higher, about where that elastic band is in the new version.

I agree on this. I dont think the four arms looks very good, myself. I much prefer the two arms version.

I'm going to go for the two armed option as well with the head where it is, the head reminds me of an angler fish for some reason ready to strike on its prey.

The 4 arms is a neat idea but the extra Defiler legs are too big for that position, do you have any sentinel legs? I have to say also that a mechanical head would fit a lot better in either position. Just my tuppence worth mate Looks great so far and I will be borrowing ideas from this for a future project

^ i agree, while i perfer the first one, i think those extra arms should be smaller

how about moving the 2 new arms to either under or even behind ( with an adjustment to the back) the 2 pre-existing arms?
and head looks better in the chest

I'm in agreement with Kraut...sometimes less is more. I think the two arms show a better balance throughout the entire model.

I don't think you should forsake the binding of the deamon to the engie with chains that you have mentioned in the past - what if you fashioned more of a 'neck' for the deamon (out of greenstuff or miliput) so it appears that it is really straining on it's binding as if it were trying to release itself from the chest cavity of the engine as it stands...

and more chains...

Thanks for the respones from all you guys!!!!! much appreciated.

So conclusion so far.

2 arms wins, but maybe have 2 smaller ones instead of the defiler ones. 2 Smaller arms with a flamer and auto cannon maybe!!!!!

Try head mid way between the 1st and 2nd place. I'm gona use the head but make it half mechanical, best of both worlds

You know, tipios, we already talked about it in my WE thread, but just in case:

One thing that would really help to enforce the impression of the daemon straining against the machine would be to make the neck look like it was really at full stretch (a little bit like the one on my Dread, you remember?) You could even use the same sort of "cabling" to suggest the strain on the part were machine and (daemon)flesh meet. Just a small idea...

Thanks Kraut, I am going to use the defilier CCW because of you with flesh and extra pipes every were.

Good man!

Looking forward to seeing your progress on this!

Thanks Kraut!

Hers's a ruff mock up so far. With auto cannons and flamers added to the arms.

More pipes and Flesh to be added.

Well, tipios, I can only speak for myself of course. But as far as I'm concerned, THIS IS IT!

Looking at the side view gives me an idea: Perhaps you could add some kind of spine running from the head down the thing's back and eventually vanishing into the machine to further enforce the impression of a fusion of flesh and metal? I am thinking of something similar to the Soulgrinder's back, if that is any help.

Sorted!! This looks really good I like the placement of the head. I would maybe shave down the hair or whatever it is on the head if you are going to be adding bionics and stuff to it.

@kraut - thanks, I think I will try that

@biohazard - thanks, I was thinking I should shave the hair of too

Today I thought I'd try to do more painting to the IW dread.

Instead of finishing off the gold trims and other details, I went straight in with my second attempt at OSL.

The OSL looks very nice on the dread tipios, I think you need to finish the whole dread now

Whoa, that's some lighting alright! Kudos to you for going that far with the effect, I would have been far to afraid to try anything that radical!

It looks cool, though! It'll be interesting to see how it works out once the model is completed!

Oh and one more thing about the Defiler. I'm in the minority here, but I'm kind of fond of the hair. At least it makes the head's silhouette more interesting. Hmmm...

that dread looks cool, but might i suggest that where ever the light is coming from (plasma coils i assume) make it alot brighter then the light coming off of it

The dread is so awesome.

Sweetstuff mate!

It looks good, but I'd like to see the glow coming from the mouth of the gun aswell.

@Giraffex - Thanks mate your right I really need to finish him I

@Kraust - Thanks, I just went for it, may have got a bit carried away, but I'm happy with what I have learnt from it. I been looking at how to cut the hair. I think it may ruin the look of the head too, we will see, maybe only a bit off the sides, which is where the pipes will be.

@rogue - Thanks, and there's still a lot more high lighting to do, the plamsa coils will blend up to white when finished

@Obsidian - Thanks a lot!!

@capitansolstice - cheers!

@Ovion - thanks. I never thought of doing the mouth glowing too, intresting I will try it.

The OSL looks really good, I agree the mouth of the weapon would look pretty cool if it was glowing as well. As for the haircut, I just feel at the moment it kinda looks like a Chimaera with a suit of armour on. If you cut down the hair add some pipes cables etc and then greenstufff some stretched skin over them I think it would tie it all together..

edit, I shouldnt have started drinking again. My spelling is shocking! lol

Thanks a lot Biohazard I think like you titan the head could take a while So you had the hair of the dog then!!!!

It dosn't seem like much, but I have spent all day filing the ammo cases to make them all the same size.

Also I've added deatails to the main gan holder thing. The back piece of the ammo drum will be attached to the upper part of the arm, which I've add pistons to. These are used to pull the ammo caes out.

Also I need to add the ammo boxes either side for the auto cannons.

Now THATS a gun.

@Obsidian Raven - No, I'm just pleased too see you

Added first shell rear.


I'm gona have to GS the shell tip. I should do one then make a mould, so they all look the same.

You sir are mad. mad and awesome to a degree I hope to achieve at some point in the next decade. Until the I will content my self with being inspired by those greater than myself. specifically I like the look of the Termi-Grots and was wondering if I could "borrow/steal" the idea to make more Obliterators/Mega nobz to sand beside my CommissarKhaine style Mega-Grots.

@ChaoticMind - Thanks mate!!! please use any ideas you like we need more Doom Grots in the world

Well you've been busy since your return!

I'm glad you liked my suggestion for stilts, and I'm even more glad to see Doomgrot n°2 is looking so madly great!

About your defiler, I think your first idea of the manticore head emerging from the "chest" was the right one. I can understand why people think it looks weird or misplaced, it's probably because it was not yet obvious that the daemon is trying to free himself from the hull. Perhaps with some shattered or rended armor plates made of plasticard around the head it would be more obvious.

The chainsaw is nice and the canon arm really gives a massive destruction feeling.

Thanks Joe. I like the idea of shattered armour, I'm on a plastic card role ATM, and want to cut more up

the shell looks really cool, now with the mold.. i'd only go that route if you know your going to need alot of them... if not.. then its best not waste the resources

Your IW Dread is beautiful. <3

MOAR PLEASE!

Thinking about the defiler it seems off without a "head" on top so maybe a mechanical head on top and have the demon head play chestburster. The demon head in either of the upper two positions works but escaping demon seems to cool an option to pass up.

It's wonderful to see you jumping back into these projects, tipios. Looking forward to your new additions to the "family"!

@rouge - Thanks! I am going to GS the tip of the shell, then make a GS mould for the rest of them so they are all the same. No exciting resin stuff here

@LaBaron - Thanks. Ok some more soon

@Chaotic - Cool idea, more heads I think I'm going to be doing many different mock ups of this

@Odd One Out - Thanks. I'm just sorry I was gone for such a time.

tipios wrote:@rouge - Thanks! I am going to GS the tip of the shell, then make a GS mould for the rest of them so they are all the same. No exciting resin stuff here

Try to get some insta mold bars. I've tried it last week instead of the GS mold I used to make and it's incredible! Your mold is made and ready for use within minutes and you can re-use it as much as you want! Moreover it's not too expensive.

Cool, thanks for that Joe I will have a look.

I have a little bar of instant mold buddy. Ill send it your way today. Should be enough for you to do the shell tips.

Woooot!!! did you get those parts I sent??

I did mate yeah thanks.
Ive just dropped it off at the post office just now. Its still has a few marks on it from when I played about with it but all you do is stick it in some hot water.

Thanks a lot mate. I have been checking out the youtube TUTs on the stuff, amazing!!!

I've entered Matt Kingsley's comp http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/381018.page which has been going for a year now. It's a convert or scratch build an Ork vehicle.

I've entered very late, so it's only gona be a small model. There's only just over a month left

I've expanded on my Doom Grots, and am converting a Killa Kan into a Deff Dread. I've been waiting ages for parts to arrive, and still there's stuff that's not arrived yet.

So far I'm using killa kan arms as legs, they give a similar look to my first Doom Grot.

Done a mod so I can make it look like he is running.

Cut out the hatch with my new rotary drill

Cut out the front slot too, so the driver can see out


He's gona have 4 arms, so I nee to build him up at the top. And I'm waiting for a very special part, so it will look like my first Doom Grot.

Special thanks to Biohazard, who sent me some killa can arms with chain saws on them, originaly for the defiler, but were too small. I loved the parks so much that I had to use them. Thats why I've entered the comp, I hope I can finish it in time!!!!


Here's a pic of my new toy. It's a Proxxon FBS 12/E rotary drill. It's very solid, and runs so smooth even at high revs. I recommend it if you are looking for a rotary tool.

Thats some really fine clean cutting there. I think I will definitley have to look at purchasing one of these toys. The Deff Dred is looking great so far as well. I like the look of the legs.

Very nice, tipios!
It looks like your talent for constructing huge killing machines transcends all notions of race. How egalitarian of you!

I knew you would start down that Orky path sooner or later.

Looking great.

@Biohazard - I cut the hatch out ruffly first, then used a sanding bit to make it nice.

@Kraut - Ha I'm going to have to SIG that quote I'll have to do TAU next

@GiraffeX - thanks It was always on the cards


Shell tip done.
Started like this.

Here's how it looks in the barrel.

and finished.


Biohazard is kindly sending a bar if instant mould, then we can duplicate this very easily

The Instant mold should be with you today or tomorrow buddy. Like the look of the shell so far.

Can I ask did you get a selection of heads with your Proxxon? Or are the bits easy enough to source?

Thanks a lot biohazard

It doesn't come with any bits. I already had a load of bits from the cheapo drill I got a while back. That are just basic engraving bits. I need to get a circular saw bit. When I get home tonight I will show you what bits I use


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Oh dear!!!!! I just saw Zinges Led STUFF. nOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I must not start buying LEDs tooo.

Ive seen a few projects with LEDs lately. They can look awesom but I'm thinking that kind of work is way out of my league though. Info on your tool (oo-er) would be appreciated.

I just PM'ed you with details

Finally bitz arrived woooot!!!!

Now we have Ork driver with his arms sticking out the sides, for the Deff Dread lower arms



and the dangly feet sticking out the bottom

Left arm will have a scorcha!!




Ohhhhhh and Doom Grot the 3rd sneek peek.

Doomgrot 3 looks like something out of Gurren Lagaan.

Ovion wrote:Doomgrot 3 looks like something out of Gurren Lagaan.

Haha, too true

Love the dangling feet, although I wonder where that drill is going. Looks rather uncomfortable...

I'd suggest, on the Deffdredd, to cut and shorten the pistons on the 'extended' leg- the ones in the back, that is. Unless that leg's supposed to have twice the extended length of the other one. They are Orks, after all.

Doomgrot 3 looks brilliant. Loving the progress on the Kan as well especially the dangling legs.

Iron Warriors dread is looking great, the OSL is really impressive. Also, dakka needs more dangling feet!

Ovion wrote:Doomgrot 3 looks like something out of Gurren Lagaan.

I'll have to give him a drilling CCW then

KrautScientist wrote:

Ovion wrote:Doomgrot 3 looks like something out of Gurren Lagaan.

Haha, too true

Love the dangling feet, although I wonder where that drill is going. Looks rather uncomfortable...

He was naughty, so he is on the naughty drill stool

Anvildude wrote:I'd suggest, on the Deffdredd, to cut and shorten the pistons on the 'extended' leg- the ones in the back, that is. Unless that leg's supposed to have twice the extended length of the other one. They are Orks, after all.

Are you sure? that leg has the pistons all the way up so the foot can be brought forward, when the leg is forward the pistons extend all the way down, to plant the foot on the floor again, so it will then look like the right one.

Limbo wrote:Iron Warriors dread is looking great, the OSL is really impressive. Also, dakka needs more dangling feet!

Thanks I'm happy with the OSL so far, just hope I don't mess the next highlights up And everyone on dakka should have at least 1 dangley feet model in their army

Big shooter, needed bullets!!!

And I've cut up the scorcha too


Too much strewberry and pear cide r has holted the manufacturing of big CCW arms. Luckily I had done the other stuff ealier tonight.

That was a lot of catching up.

First off, welcome back. I didn't know you were gone, but glad to see you are still around. I genuinely enjoy your work and you know I've referenced back to you many times in my own projects.

Second... just wow. Never a disappointing moment from tipios. I'm late to the party to offer some suggestions on where your projects are at, but I'm going to make the effort to reconnect here and keep up with things as best I can.

If you haven't sorted out the "feet" issue on the Dreadgrots, as a former Mekboy my suggestion would be to create an asymmetrical mismatch of various gubbin' and stuff. You never know when a bunch of Imperial Guard Lasguns will come in hand for a left foot (with a Space Marine Bolter for the big toe, of course). Stock up on more bailing wire and nailz though, you'll need them.

(completely random thought--- do you suppose they still have Duct Tape in the 41stM?)

Good to see you again. Looking forward to seeing what you have coming next.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:That was a lot of catching up.

First off, welcome back. I didn't know you were gone, but glad to see you are still around. I genuinely enjoy your work and you know I've referenced back to you many times in my own projects.

Thanks a lot Skalk, I think I may have been gone as long as you were

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Second... just wow. Never a disappointing moment from tipios. I'm late to the party to offer some suggestions on where your projects are at, but I'm going to make the effort to reconnect here and keep up with things as best I can.

If you haven't sorted out the "feet" issue on the Dreadgrots, as a former Mekboy my suggestion would be to create an asymmetrical mismatch of various gubbin' and stuff. You never know when a bunch of Imperial Guard Lasguns will come in hand for a left foot (with a Space Marine Bolter for the big toe, of course). Stock up on more bailing wire and nailz though, you'll need them.

Looking for odd bitz now for doomgrot 3 thanks!!

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:(completely random thought--- do you suppose they still have Duct Tape in the 41stM?)

It may be called Grot Tape

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Good to see you again. Looking forward to seeing what you have coming next.

Water effects on base is my next attempt at something new, also general basing too, ATM I'm slacking in that department.

Good to hear from you again, looking forward to some Skalk craziness on your thread too

Final posing test, with all arms!!! and cork to make some rocks

The off-kilter stance will be hilarious when it winds up Immobilized. My buddy Daichallar runs a Kan wall and his models all have crazy poses. When they go immobilized you can really "see" the machine just freezing up. What's even funnier is if you think about a very irate Grot jamming on the controls and shaking his seat back and forth trying to get the Kan moving again. Hahha.

Ha, Skalk now every time I look at him I think he is just stuck like that


I've got new toy as payment for helping my dad with building work at his house



I've spent half the day practicing spraying stuff. I've under coated a Leman Russ, and my termie lord conversion.

Very happy with the result.



Then I started spraying colour. I only did this on the Leman Russ, as I am not bothered if it goes wrong.





This is as far as I got, because I have not worked out best thinning mix yet, and clogged the airbrush. This was not a problem with the black base coat, as that was already thinned for airbrush use.
But the red it just Vallejo game colour, and just thinned with water. Anyway I'm very pleased with how it all went, I can see a lot more stuff getting painted now!

I'm very jealous of your new toy tipios and whats that kan done to the poor chaos lord there's body parts everywhere

Kan does look very cool though great pose.

Thanks GiraffeX, Ha the Lord was wrong place at wrong time

You need airbrush if you havn't got already

I'm not allowed an airbrush, I've been told I'm dangerous enough with just a paint brush

Not fair!!!

I'll never understand how some people manage to produce these gravity defying poses when I can't even get my zoanthropes to stand up straight....althought they are of metal so I'll blame it on that.

Well he's been held up with a screwdriver ATM

I have that airbrush (well, that compressor, anyway) and I can safely say your dad made a good choice. Nice work! Loving the Leman Russ, and the Deff Dread looks hilarious (in a good way!). I can't wait to see what you do with the new Bommer kit!

Awesome Ork stuff

Loved da' Kan!

@squigsquasher - Yeah It's a great compressor so quite, can't belive it! It came with 2 cheapo air brushes, so I'll have to upgrade them one day. Thanks for the complemts on the Russ and Killa Deff Dread Hmmm if I can sneak a Bommer kit in past thge wife that would be cool!

@silverMk2 - Cheers

@sir william the bold - Thanks a lot!

I painted the drivers head of the Deff Dread, so I can glue the kan around him. I didn't have to paint his face, but I wanted to practice!!



Vallejo Model Air dark metalic, is very nice to paint with

Looking nice...Looking real nice! EEEEOOOOOWWWWW!!!

/Cat]

Thanks Squigs, and your cat

Today I'm testing water effects, for the Deff Dread Base!

I'm going for Deff Dread running through a running river!!

How it looked this morning.


And now almost set.

No, not my cat, I don't have a cat. Have you ever watched Red Dwarf? If not, you won't get it...

Water effect is looking good so far which version did you go for in the end?

Squigsquasher wrote:No, not my cat, I don't have a cat. Have you ever watched Red Dwarf? If not, you won't get it...

Lol, I've watched Red Dwarf so many time, I should have got that!!!

GiraffeX wrote:Water effect is looking good so far which version did you go for in the end?

Thanks, I went with the Vallejo in the end.

The river effect worked really well, I like it!

Thanks squigs, I've just got to try to do that on my 60mm base. A small bit at a time, if I try to do it all at once it might go wrong.

i like where your bases are going!

tipios wrote:

GiraffeX wrote:Water effect is looking good so far which version did you go for in the end?

Thanks, I went with the Vallejo in the end.

Make sure you do it in thin layers otherwise it wont dry properly inside and might look a bit cloudy.

cormadepanda wrote:i like where your bases are going!

Thanks, I'm really jumping in at the deep end with this but I find that's the best way

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:

Steal away simple but effective, I think

GiraffeX wrote:

tipios wrote:

GiraffeX wrote:Water effect is looking good so far which version did you go for in the end?

Thanks, I went with the Vallejo in the end.

Make sure you do it in thin layers otherwise it wont dry properly inside and might look a bit cloudy.

I hear you there, the test piece is clearing up, but I did two layers and didn't let it dry before a did the second layer, so underneath is still cloudy. But it is a raging river so I might get away with it if I make mistakes like that on the big base. I may even paint white streaks after each layer to help give that running water feel. Then dry brush white over the top layer.

Doing the white would help, just dont over do it and lose the water feel that you wanted! keep diving deep.

cormadepanda wrote:Doing the white would help, just dont over do it and lose the water feel that you wanted! keep diving deep.

Thanks, I feel another test base coming on

Did a quick white dry brush over the top, works well I think.

I know it's not done yet. As it is right now it could have an application as some sort of Tyranid goop / snot / DNA fluid.

Ick.

Soo.. What's in store for DoomGrot the 3d then?

What did you use for the water effect? Sorry if you mentioned i didnt see it when skimming through.

That looks awesome!

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:I know it's not done yet. As it is right now it could have an application as some sort of Tyranid goop / snot / DNA fluid.

Ick.

Yes Skalk, I think it could easily be made into some sort of ick I think green could be mixed in before you apply it, but not sure.

STC_LogisEngine wrote:Soo.. What's in store for DoomGrot the 3d then?

Big mek is consentrating on the Deff Dread conversion, so Doom grot the 3rd and 2nd unfortunately have to wait still no legs

theQuanz wrote:What did you use for the water effect? Sorry if you mentioned i didnt see it when skimming through.

That looks awesome!

Thanks!!! Not sure if I ever said what it was either It's Vellajo water effect 26.201

The white dry brush looks very good and yes you can mix in paint and inks. I've used it on my Nurgle marines with yellow ink and red for blood effect on something but I cant remember what lol

Ah I remember it was blood dripping off the axe of one of my plague marines those guys are dirty.

Looking good! Personally I thought it actually looked better when it was partially cloudy, but it still looks great.

Keep up the good work!

I'd actually suggest doing something like a green/teal/aqua wash on it as well before doing the white drybrushing.

GiraffeX wrote:The white dry brush looks very good and yes you can mix in paint and inks. I've used it on my Nurgle marines with yellow ink and red for blood effect on something but I cant remember what lol

Ah I remember it was blood dripping off the axe of one of my plague marines those guys are dirty.

Thanks for that info My daemon prince is going to have a river of blood on his base so I will do a red mix.

Squigsquasher wrote:Looking good! Personally I thought it actually looked better when it was partially cloudy, but it still looks great.

Keep up the good work!

Thanks! I would like to keep it cloudy in places too, but it goes clear once it's totally set :(

Anvildude wrote:I'd actually suggest doing something like a green/teal/aqua wash on it as well before doing the white drybrushing.

Thanks I will try that

I've got some vallejo still water too!!

Here's a test base, with about 4 thin layers so far.



I painted the base with a few browns first, then glued the stones in a circle and poured in the water. I've tried directly onto the stones also to see how it settles.


Oh and I did a thinned blue wash on the first base to see what happens.

I'm really looking forward into seeing what a foot looks like in it...have you thought about where the water 'breaks' over it?

That's looking nice, tipios. How did you get the little waves and splashing effect? Is the water effect stuff tacky enought to stay up like that?

Zeke 169 wrote:I'm really looking forward into seeing what a foot looks like in it...have you thought about where the water 'breaks' over it?

Do you mean, where it breaks over the foot?

Yellowbeard wrote:That's looking nice, tipios. How did you get the little waves and splashing effect? Is the water effect stuff tacky enought to stay up like that?

Thanks! IYes it's very tacky, and keps it's shape nicely.

Yeah, where it breaks over the foot of the dread.

Or are you thinking it's more of a splash as it's running through the water?

the blue wash is interesting...maybe even thin it alittle more?

Zeke 169 wrote:Yeah, where it breaks over the foot of the dread.

Or are you thinking it's more of a splash as it's running through the water?

It's going to be a splash, but I guest then it should part a bit also I'm looking at pictures of fast running rivers too see how it should look!

cormadepanda wrote:the blue wash is interesting...maybe even thin it alittle more?

Yes needs more thinning, because now it is dry, it's even bluer

Pretty cool effects

Thanks silver!!

Thats a cool idea. When I first saw the pic I was wondering what I was looking at but now after reading.... The is a concept. I completely get it. That blue wash it cool also.

Are you going more for a river or stream or a puddle? Could always use a light brown wash to muddy it up some if you wanted.

Thanks schank23, I'm going for a river on my deff dread conversion!! I'll try the light brown too see how it looks

First off I have to say that I am to closed minded at what treads I look at. I mostly look only at ork related treads and skip most of the rest. But now after going threw all 30 some odd pages of tipios's tread and seeing those dreadnoughts, dread knight and defiler conversions I have to say shame on me. They are absolutely brilliant. I makes me want to buy some dread and chaos and start converting. And I have to say damn you tepios for that. But really your work is mind blowing. All those conversions even your orks are top notch. Well done sir. Well done.

And I found my pin drill.

Ha thanks alot Schank23

I always try to look through as many threads as I can, you never know when you'll find something that can help you with your builds

Congratz on finding you pin drill

tipios wrote:
It's going to be a splash, but I guest then it should part a bit also I'm looking at pictures of fast running rivers too see how it should look!

I was just thinking about this. Have you left a space for the foot? Should the foot be partially covered with the water effects?

These are only tests, I'm only going to do it on the main figure when I'm happy I can do it!!

It makes a good drool effect as well

...And I think we'll end that conversation right there before it goes places it shouldn't.

Anyway, everything is looking nice! Will you be painting the gravel on the final base?

GiraffeX wrote:It makes a good drool effect as well

Squigsquasher wrote:...And I think we'll end that conversation right there before it goes places it shouldn't.

Anyway, everything is looking nice! Will you be painting the gravel on the final base?

Thanks for keeping the conversion on the straight and narrow

Yes I think I may have to paint the gravel, so it matches the bigger cork rocks. Because I tried painting the rock to match the gravel, but I can't get it right

More water testing

I've done a green wash now, then a heavy dry brush of white,



now I need to do this over whole base



Also tried adding a ripple effect in the still pond awesome!!!!!




I'm going to build up doom grot2's feet with GS, then add water effects




errrrr! I seem to have taken over dinner table again

The mrs is gonna kill you man
The water effects are looking great, the green really helps I think. I love the ripple effect.

I think the base is going to look awesome once its done. Youve really pushed the bar this time mate.

Those water effects are looking really nice, I'm going to have to start improving mine when I do the next batch.

Was that GW green wash you used?

Biohazard wrote:The mrs is gonna kill you man
The water effects are looking great, the green really helps I think. I love the ripple effect.

I think the base is going to look awesome once its done. Youve really pushed the bar this time mate.

Thanks a lot Bio, Yes the green wash really has had a good effect If this is my last post, you were right, Mrs killed me

GiraffeX wrote:Those water effects are looking really nice, I'm going to have to start improving mine when I do the next batch.

Was that GW green wash you used?

Thanks G, it's vallejo wash, I've got the whole set

Wow. Loving the river base. Awesome!

The water effects are looking great, tipios. I love the ripple effect. You should do a Grot Zen Martial Arts Master meditating on that effect.

Squigsquasher wrote:Wow. Loving the river base. Awesome!

Cheers!

Yellowbeard wrote:The water effects are looking great, tipios. I love the ripple effect. You should do a Grot Zen Martial Arts Master meditating on that effect.

Intresting idea

lol, Sensei Grot
Wait, not a dread....
DON'T DO IT!
But srsly, loving the base

Wow, that "rippling pool" effect really got me. That is some solid modeling skill right there, you completely nailed it.

As far as the table is concerned, show her your Dakka threads. Let her see the glowing praise and the yearning requests for more of your amazing work. Tell her it's more than a hobby, it's a responsibility. You have fans all over the world that are waiting to see your next and newest creation. She has to be understanding of that, right?

And if it helps, here's a couple pictures of my wife's kitchen table from a few months ago:





Hope that helps, and looking forward to the next update. You're really outdoing yourself these days.

Matt.Kingsley wrote:lol, Sensei Grot
Wait, not a dread....
DON'T DO IT!
But srsly, loving the base

It would have to be a doom grot

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Wow, that "rippling pool" effect really got me. That is some solid modeling skill right there, you completely nailed it.

As far as the table is concerned, show her your Dakka threads. Let her see the glowing praise and the yearning requests for more of your amazing work. Tell her it's more than a hobby, it's a responsibility. You have fans all over the world that are waiting to see your next and newest creation. She has to be understanding of that, right?

And if it helps, here's a couple pictures of my wife's kitchen table from a few months ago:





Hope that helps, and looking forward to the next update. You're really outdoing yourself these days.

Ha, thanks Skalk great pics I'm still alive so everything is ok ATM

Water effect is such a cool product, it makes me look good

Glad to see you're not dead yet, Tipios!

I can commiserate - the troubles with not having a real crafting/hobbying bench...I struggle with my wife as well vying for the dining table as she also spreads out with all her research for her masters! Going to be a long two years.

I went back and looked at the water effects again - brilliant!

Zeke 169 wrote:Glad to see you're not dead yet, Tipios!

I can commiserate - the troubles with not having a real crafting/hobbying bench...I struggle with my wife as well vying for the dining table as she also spreads out with all her research for her masters! Going to be a long two years.

I feel your pain Zeke.

Well make sure she passes her masters, then gets a good job, and buys you a house with a basement, only used for hobby

Zeke 169 wrote:I went back and looked at the water effects again - brilliant!

Thanks a lot I think I will be doing my first Diorama with water effects, after I get a few more models finished first!!

tipios wrote:
Thanks a lot I think I will be doing my first Diorama with water effects, after I get a few more models finished first!!

Dreadnought thunderdome?

maybe second diorama will be dreadnought thunderdome, first one will be smaller

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:

And if it helps, here's a couple pictures of my wife's kitchen table from a few months ago:

Now its just my kitchen table, I won it in the divorce

Just a quick update. Deff Dread ready for prime. Then when I've finish the left leg I can do the water effects. 9 Days to go.

Looks great, tipios. I'm looking forward to seeing how the water effect turns out.

Yeah it does look excellent, I'm really looking forward to seeing the water effect as well.

Pretty cool!

That's exactly what I see when I think "Ork". Great job, looking forward to paint!

Thanks alot guys

Hi all. Wow it's been over 3 years since I've done any work on any of my models. Long story short, wife had baby, stuff put in boxes for while. Now I'm between moves, and sorting out boxes and stuff. Been browsing dakka for the past couple of weeks, and the desire to make stuff has come back big time Obviously I need to get an Imperial Knight and Chaos it up, but for now my plan is to finish my Defiler, Dread Knight, and Killer can thingy.

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Main problem is those items aren't in the box

Off to find more boxes!!!!!

Had to keep the almost 3 year old entertained, so very little was done last night.

Its good to see you back and with a little helper as well.

Thanks Gx.

Found my rotary tool, and some bitz arrived in the post. This is what happened.

Great to see you back mate, my girls almost 9months and I know how hard it is to fot hobby time in. Looking forward to progress on the Dreadknight. I have another one in a box still to build as a Forgefiend, I like what you have so far. What's behind the defiler mask?

Thanks Bio
9 months wow a few more months and she'll be climbing up the table to try and eat everything
I just bought a Forgefiend , because I want to do something interesting with that. So much for finishing stuff before I start anything new
Dreadknight as forgefiend ooooohhhhh cooool can't wait for that.

Behind the mask is a Forge World chaos Dread head.

Now mocking up the chains I want on the Defiler.

So bloody nice to see that blog restarting. Do you plan on converting your forgefiend towards a two legged pose ?

Keep it up !

Thanks Kernel.

That was too easy to guess

Brilliant ! Looking forward to see how it goes ^^ !

Me too Kernel

More work on Defiler today.

Big exhaust plus new armour.



Also decided to redo cannon arm.



I'm thinking of cutting down the cannon shaft to half the size, but my cause too many problems. Also mocking feet.

What might work is if you could push the rear cowling back towards the elbow more- maybe cut down the lower arm bit and just shift everything back, leaving the pistony bit of the lower arm intact.

Anvildude wrote:
What might work is if you could push the rear cowling back towards the elbow more- maybe cut down the lower arm bit and just shift everything back, leaving the pistony bit of the lower arm intact.

Yes I think I will try that. So the Ammo barrel will be under the elbow.



Got more of the chain fist done.


And finally finished the barrels of the Dreadlords auto cannon.

Thought I'd see what the Forgefiend would look like on the Defiler legs.

Nice set of modifications. Although I am not sure on the defiler legs for the forgefiend, I feel that they are a bit too short for the whole model to get a bipedal look. More like he is kicking with his front limbs. Maybe shortening the neck would help ?

Just my opinion after seeing two pictures anyway, I trust you to build one more awesome killing machine.

Yes I think the neck is too long. Also I think I need to build the legs from scratch to fit in with the model. Could take a while. I have ordered some other legs from a different model but they might be way to small!!

Man that fiend is looking really cool. Outrageous Godzilla Chaos Monster. Love it. Maybe a mech tail from the defiler legs, like maybe from metal to rat or lizard tail then back to metal or something, that would keep the legs from looking like a kicking mule, which I don't really thing they do anyway, but would add balance to the overall bulk. Idk, you've got it so I'll just keep my mouth shut and enjoy the build progress. Keep them coming

Yes Mucho, I thought maybe a T-rex stance might work, and a bigger tail would have to be used to balance it out. Used small one here.

Ooh, yeah that stance works nicely, I concur on the need for a bigger tail, but definitely has a chaos TRex vibe. And this way you can keep the long neck.

Hrm. Could you make Chaos-Star Godzilla spines for it?

KernelTerror wrote:Ooh, yeah that stance works nicely, I concur on the need for a bigger tail, but definitely has a chaos TRex vibe. And this way you can keep the long neck.

Thanks I will see if I can mock up some legs tonight. Gona have to make some pistons then GS muscle over the top to match the rest of the model

Anvildude wrote:Hrm. Could you make Chaos-Star Godzilla spines for it?

Not sure what you mean.

The spiny plates Godzilla has on his back, right? But instead of just generic spikey plates, they've got the Chaos Star-style arrows as the 'spines' and the circly bit as the plate.

Anvildude wrote:
The spiny plates Godzilla has on his back, right? But instead of just generic spikey plates, they've got the Chaos Star-style arrows as the 'spines' and the circly bit as the plate.

So Chaos symbols all down his back?


Had a go at adding magnets today.



Which made it easier to try different poses without any bluetac.

Yeah, like, sticking sideways out of it- with the largest ones right at his shoulders, then getting progressively smaller.

You know what a stegosaurus looks like, right?

Ok I get it now.

Thought I'd have more time today to do the tail. The Heldrake back seems to be what I want, but need to cut the sections out, and realign to follow the curve of the back. Maybe be even cut the lower 2 plates out of the fiend, Hopefully tonight can try that.

Cut off his arse, now there is a big hole to fill. A lot of GS tubes me thinks.

I started painting the Deff Dreads leg on the base, so I can finally try my river base idea.

Major mistake though. I made very little effort to dust it off after 3 years, so paint not very smooth.





Now I can slowly add the water effect.

Makes it more realistic. Do you think Orks would bother cleaning things off before painting them?

Anvildude wrote:
Makes it more realistic. Do you think Orks would bother cleaning things off before painting them?

This is what I am going to tell everyone

This week I have been building up the water on the deffdread base.


It leaked the first few times. Again I've rushed it, so don't know what the edges will be like. I've done it in layers and added a wash near the foot as it disturbed the river bed.

Dude you're Choaa conversons are awesome. Loving where the Forge/Mauller fiend is going.

Water looks good from what I can see.

D

Everything is looking great so far, welcome back to dakka.

evildrcheese wrote:Dude you're Choaa conversons are awesome. Loving where the Forge/Mauller fiend is going.

Water looks good from what I can see.

D

Thanks evildrcheese, final layer of water done ready for splash and ripple effects tomorrow. My camera is packed away somewhere, when I move again next month I hope I can take better photos.

GiraffeX wrote:Everything is looking great so far, welcome back to dakka.

GX, hope your situation gets better soon mate!

Wanted to paint the Deff Dread today, but the doom grots got in the way, now with Doom grot Deff Dread!

Water feature has gone wrong around the edges, so need a fix. Alsi started painting.

In what way did it go wrong?

The still water effect stuck to the tin foil really well. So I had to cut it out. Also I didn't take enough care when wrapping the foil around, so it's all over the place. Here's a closer look.

Can you make a new side and fill up the gaps with more/would that work?

Sand it smaller. Make it look like the ledge/lip is intentional. Since you're having that ' barrier of imagination' there anyways, where the person looking is expected to just continue the decoration in their mind's eye and ignore the base, it doesn't matter too much the way that the decoration relates to the base, as long as the base doesn't overpower the decor.

 GiraffeX wrote:
Can you make a new side and fill up the gaps with more/would that work?

I think it will leave an odd line. I want to add rapids anyway. So some well placed rocks and extra rapid effects in those areas. We will see.

Weathering effects going on.

Got the Deffdread mostly painted. Just need to sort the base.

Wow over a year since I've done anything. Now I've finally got my own room to set everything up in, I've started unpacking everything. Although I haven't found any tools yet, I have just gone and bought a load of bitz, and tried stuff on the forgefiend standing tall thingy.







I really intend to keep up modeling again. Looking through DakkaDakka is a real inspiration. Love it.

By the gods, that thing looks incredible!

thanks lindsay40k



changed the head angle.

That's really cool. Is the head from the Skull Cannon kit?

EDC

thx EDC

Yes the head is from skull cannon.

He needs pipe hair to fill in the top and back of head.

There's 2 option for eyes. The big bug eyes, or they are behind the armour at the front. I prefer the second.

Looks like Isaac from Dead Space. Gonna smash up some gribblies?

Ooh, that'd be a neat pose. Stomping the legs off a Tyranid of some sort.

Oh yeah Anvil dude. I'll have to make the slits glow blue.

 tipios wrote:
thx EDC

Yes the head is from skull cannon.

He needs pipe hair to fill in the top and back of head.

There's 2 option for eyes. The big bug eyes, or they are behind the armour at the front. I prefer the second.

Sooo awesome. I'm totally stealing that idea for one of my future mauler fiends for my KDK

EDC

Great to see this restarting, will be following closely.

Welcome back tipios, its good to see you getting back into the hobby

@evildrcheese cool, the Skull cannon has got loads of nice bitz for that.

@kernel Thanks

@GiraffeX wish my wife thought the same, HA!


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teeeeeeeth

Need to buy some green stuff, but until then.






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Liked the look of the kastelan robots. So just got the torso from a bitz store, and started chaosing it.

And robot has got some arms, but think the shoulder pad needs to come in closer to body.

What do you guys think?

Damn, the close up really shows the sinister face of your mauler fiend, really cool.
As for the shoulders, yeah, might be worth having a look at having them slightly overlap the body...

@kernelterror thanks, It does look better closer but I didn't take a picture yet, because I found my green stuff, which must be over 5 years old. I thought maybe it won't work, but it did!

Wowzer... There is some truly inspirational stuff in here!

thanks Elnibbus

Didn't have time to role out more GS last night, so just testing some things coming out of the head ideas.

I like them swept back, recalls predatory insects

@lindsay yeah i prefer them, but still not sure I will use them.

I've been doing 2 or 3 pipes a day, so this may take a while!!




Also trying some Dark Mechanicus ideas.

Nice progress, and that demon horse project should be interesting.

Thanks Kernel, it's become a tentical horse

This is so cool. Excellent work on the Maulerfiend, the wire dreads looks excellent!

EDC

thanks EDC.

Just want to say Merry Christmas to everyone.


If Santa got my note, I should have more models to play with after today yay!

Love the look of the contemptor dread. Got the model cheap off ebay for christmas wooooh. Can't believe it's £35 rrp!!!

Did the standard cut him up a bit to sort out pose. Changed head, I've got loads of head ideas, gona try and get a few more of these cheap and try other stuff.

Cool Are you planning to use the included weapons or switch them out?

@lindsay40k, thanks. I want to do autocanon, and maybe a chain fist. I think I can cut up the multimelta to make the auto canon. I want it to have belt feed ammo, m60 style. Want to make them myself but not sure how yet. Has anyone tried that, I try searching, but only find place to buy them.

Anyway, for first time ever I have a dedicated area to build stuff, so hope that can speed me up, and finish off models for once.

these are some seriously weird models.
mini vices stuck to their feet, flying robot horse heads and pin drills stuck in their bum...
you sir are a weird individual.

great stuff really. sorry if it's been asked but what are you planning on doing with all of them? is there a list that you can use them all in?

looking forward to the contemptor rebuild. hes one of my favorite models.

Some really cool work being done here!

I haven't made an ammo belt, but if I were to do it, I'd make an armoured feed by bending a paperclip into the shape I want, making rectangular segments out of plasticard, coating the paperclip with GS and pressing it into having a cross-section similar to that of the empty inside of the segments, threading them along and adding more GS in between them to fill the gaps out.

When that's done, add greebling like extra segments joining or capping the segments, or cables running along the length.

@annoyingusername thanks yes weird


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@annoyingusername thanks yes weird


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@annoyingusername thanks yes weird, and I love the 40k universe, but never got into playing it, just always went into gamesworkshop to look at the models. Dawn of war got me back into it and so did finding DakkaDakka. So no lists just do it for fun.


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@Silver thanks.

@lindsay40k thanks.are those your models? cool if they are. I was thinking more of open ammo belt though.

Did some ammo belt a while back, not my best work but did the trick. It is basically what Lindsay said, except I used a transparent plastic strip as a base. Then plasticard squares on both sides and greenstuff wiring alongside :



And another one in the bottom picture



Both of em could have been cleaner though, with small rectangular pieces to link the square together for example.

EDIT : missed your post about open ammo belts while redacting, my bad !

Thanks kernel. Cool models. loads of details on them.

The models I showed aren't mine, just examples I found of armoured ammo feeds. For exposed belts, a paperclip rod bent to fit - it'd have to be quite precise in how it's curves fit the desired shape, little room to correct with the sculpt here - over which a sheath of GS is applied and worked into a thin diamond-shaped cross-section, roughly as wide and thick as the munitions will be long and wide.

Give it a half hour or so to lose its stickiness but still be workable, and then use an edged tool to press two lines along its length on both sides where the links would be. Then use the same to press in the rims of the cartridges, then use edged clippers to press in the bullets with a little snip near the tips to get them distinct, and use a blunt tool to press in indentations along the belt where each cartridge meets.

Fingerpainted example:

@lindsay40k - That is awesome, thanks!!!!

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Though I'd try the chainfist out.





Off to try and make this autocannon!

thus far

Barrels done. The dreadknight flamer fuel cells have come in very handy.

Emergency drilled barrels pic

Forgefiend is still getting his hair done.





And contemptor s going slowly too. Really need to start spiking him up!

In that last photo the autocannon barrels appear to be drooping

not glued yet. Gona glue last so I don't snap off while messing around with it, and go all Kylo ren on my hobby room!

Changed my mind on underbarrel staby weapon thing.

Just thought I'd sit down and try a few things on my robot ideas. 3 god dam hours later.

Slowly shaved down the imperial knight head, until it fitted nicley with orignal robot rear head bit.

Decided it needed a big engine on back. Then thought, I'll just bend some rod, en stick it on, easy. Bending rod easy!! cutting rod to lenght and sticking it on agggghhhh

And I've got to do again also need to get Ork another exhaust to much!!!

Sweet, it has something of an Iron Warrior feel with this head.

Good man Kernel, that's what the plan is. iron warrior, that's why I'm doing the big engine too

A few more bits on the Robot.

For some reason I decided to finish of the OSL on the Iron Warrior dread.