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New Imperial Guard Apocalypse Datasheets on the GW website:
- Heavy Weapons Company
- Stompa Hunters
- Storm Trooper Strike Force
- Rough Rider Company

BrassScorpion wrote:New Imperial Guard Apocalypse Datasheets on the GW website:
- Heavy Weapons Company
- Stompa Hunters
- Storm Trooper Strike Force

You missed the Rough Rider Company! Sweet sweetness!

And just for Mister Hwang,

Stomr Troopers ARE the awesomesauce! In Apocalypse!

you think maybe theyd make some faq for the 3 hellhound/super flame template sheet...
theres gw for you...

The Hellstorm squadron in the apocalypse reloaded rule book? What's the question you have about it? Not that I'm claiming to know the answer, but I've built a HS and don't want to have over-looked something.

I like the Stompa Hunters. A hunting pack of Sentinels is pretty cool.

Stormtroopers who can shoot, move the shoot again at a different target? Screw everybody else! That's just extra-brutal.

Rough Riders, and Storm Troopers are shiny...

Mattlov wrote:I like the Stompa Hunters. A hunting pack of Sentinels is pretty cool.

I'll definitely have to run that datasheet! I've got 9 armored Sentinels painted and built a 10th last year for Emperor's Talon Recon Group. Painting on that model will definitely have to get bumped to a high priority thanks to Stompa Hunters; too much fun.

Wow.

I was planning on doing stuff like that anyways for just to have it.

Now, I can field it in Apocalypse?!
AWESOME!

...Wonder if they'll be doing a Kasrkin Strike Force, so I can have Bastonne and six squads of Grenadier Veterans mounted in Valkyries on the table too?

Still no sign of the Iron Saint, Build-a-Stompa, or all the other WD ones. I wish they wouldn't do that.

Ok, looking over them:

Rough Rider Company - Just like FW's Death Rider Company, except that GW didn't forget to give it special rules like Warwick did. It is as you’d expect, they get Flank March and a combined Furious/Berserk Charge-sorta rule. It works.

Heavy Weapon Company – Super-silly fluff description, ‘The anti-tank guns shoot at tanks while the anti-infantry guns shoot at infantry!’ and then it gets a contradictory special rule that makes you shoot everything at a single target, so your anti-infantry weapons fire twice at the tank you want to kill, or your Lascannons fire twice at the huge Ork Mob you want to destroy. I don’t think that one was thought out very well. Could be fun to try that out with Mortars though, but who owns 36 Mortar Teams? If I add up just my Lascannon and Missile Launcher teams, I only get to 10-full HW Squads. I wouldn’t go and buy more, and I wouldn’t stick anti-infantry weapons in such a formation because the rules contradict the fluff! Uhhg!

Sentinel Stompa Hunters – ‘S alright I ‘spose. The fire and then no move/shoot next turn isn’t anything to write home about, but the +1 penetration could be useful.

Storm Trooper Strike Force – Ignoring the fact that Stormies are absolute junk in the new Codex… and the last Codex… and the Codex before that… this formation is actually quite cool. Then again, as I’ve always wanted to field my 6 Storm Trooper Squads in 6 Valkyries, I’m a little bias here. The shoot/move/shoot thing is an interesting bonus, but the Vital Objective thing is what makes it worthwhile. I like this one.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Still no sign of the Iron Saint, Build-a-Stompa, or all the other WD ones. I wish they wouldn't do that.

Could it be a secret GW conspiracy to try to force us to buy White Dwarf if we want the content in it?

I'm one of those "Don't attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity" people, so I'm going to say that they either forgot or don't know the WD ones aren't on the web, rather than they did it on purpose.

The storm trooper one sounds great... just have to buy 3 valkyries now

Hrm. So Stormtroopers are actually quite the kick-ass when brought in this formation (Making them almost worth their points too!). But other than that, there doesn't seem to be much reason to have 30 friggin' Stormtroopers.

The same can also be said for the Heavy Weapons teams, to a lesser extent.

GW using Apocalypse datasheets to move models they know no one really wants with the new rules? Conspiracy!! And it works... Imma gonna have to order up some more Kasrkin.

Can't really explain the other two (cept for maybe the fact that Armoured Lascannon armed sentinels are kinda scarily overpriced).

That stormtrooper one sounds good. I plan to invest in a valk squadron, so all I'd need is 1 more unit of stormtroopers eventually...

Does anyone besides HBMC own 12 HW squads?

Necros wrote:That stormtrooper one sounds good. I plan to invest in a valk squadron, so all I'd need is 1 more unit of stormtroopers eventually...

Does anyone besides HBMC own 12 HW squads?

Just for my praetorians I have 11 lascannons teams, 9 ML teams, 9 heavy bolter teams, 3 mortar teams, and 7 autocannon teams, so that's a little over 12 HW squads. Admittedly, that would strip all the heavy weapons out of my line squads, so in practice no, I do not.

I have 12 HW squads between two different regiments (Steel legion, and Cadian) but unless I'm planning on seeing a *big* titan I can't imagine dedicating them to one regiment. I'd lose a huge proportion of the orders I could give them as well just to gain twin-linked. Its a good alpha strike, but not much else.

For the Sentinels: Well, at least I get a consolation prize for having a full sentinel allotment from the last codex.

I am sorry, but I am unable to get thru any links whatsoever this moment, can someone show me please?

Man, the Stormtrooper Strike Force is BRUTAL. Have Valks fly flat-out and move 24" (right?), have Stormies (with the Aerial Assault thingie which lets them re-roll the scatter) drop out in rapid-fire range and have them STORM THE OBJECTIVE.

I think that is frickin' awesome. The cool factor alone makes me want to get three valks and another......wait......hah! i still have a Kasrkin squad in box!

I wonder why they couldnt make those rules for Stormies in the regular dex... they would be worth 16 points each then....

Ug....

Or even something CLOSE. These make them sweet, though - check the price tag - this datasheet is worth 1000points. This is, of course, with heavy bolter sponsons, hellstrikes, and lascannons for the valks and each ST squad has 2 meltas. Could be even MORE.

Interesting that it requires the use of Valkyries with no option to use Vendettas.

Necros wrote:Does anyone besides HBMC own 12 HW squads?

23 HW Squads, thankyouverymuch!!!

But yeah, like Polonius said, doing that would strip all the HW's from my line squads. So, 15 HW Squads in reality.

H.B.M.C. wrote:
23 HW Squads, thankyouverymuch!!!

But yeah, like Polonius said, doing that would strip all the HW's from my line squads. So, 15 HW Squads in reality.

Just out of idle curiosity, how much Imperial Guard do you actually have serving the God-Emperor of Mankind? I remember seeing some pics showing parts of your collection but those clearly were just a hint of the total might at your disposal. So how many companies of tanks and infantry? Supported by how many super-heavies?

6 45-man Platoons (2 Old Cadian, 2 New Cadian, 1 Mordian, 1 Tallarn) + 17 additional HW Squads + 50 assorted extra plastic Cadians + several Company Command Squads.

3 10-tank Armoured Companies.
1 10-tank Artillery Company.
12 Chimeras (to ferry my two plastic Cadian Platoons + HQ)
1 10-tank Super-Heavy Regiment
2 10-walker Sentinel Recon Companies (+4 extras, going for three Companies eventually)
6 10-man Storm Trooper Squads (each w/Valkyrie Transport)

And then there are all the attached inquisitorial units + extra things like Snipers, a load of various officers, SWS's, Cyclops Demo Vehicles, a Hellhound Squadron, and so on. 'Bout 600 models all up I'd say.

Scottywan82 wrote:

- Storm Trooper Strike Force

Company! Sweet sweetness!

And just for Mister Hwang,

Stomr Troopers ARE the awesomesauce! In Apocalypse!

Yeah, at an extra 150 pts for the formation, requiring 3x 10 Storms and 3x 10 Valks...

480+ pts in overpriced Storms
360+ pts in Valks that want to be Vendetta gunships
+150 pts to shoot-run-shoot the S3 guns
= 1000 pts of non-Scoring stuff...

For the same points in Apoc, I would typically field 3 Demolishers, 2 Basilisks, and 1 Russ dropping pie every turn.

Now, Vital Objective is nice in Apoc, but not for 1000 pts, I think.

( Stunned silence ) Holy crap... that force truly is worthy of the name "Hammer of the Emperor".

That's assuming you play that only Troops can score in Apoc, which is just laughable (especially when you consider Apoc was written for 4th, and Re-Load basically contains an 'Oops!' disclaimer encouraging people to ignore that bit of 5th and keep using the 4th Ed scoring methods).

I think it was Luna who said that it's funny that H. somehow manages to tell everbody about his giant amount of models in every thread he posts in


That Strike Force almost makes me want to play "normal" Guard

Anung Un Rama wrote:I think it was Luna who said that it's funny that H. somehow manages to tell everbody about his giant amount of models in every thread he posts in

Well about 5 of Dakka's most repected members and about 5 or so newbies are all actually sockpuppets of mine, and I use them to go into threads and ask questions about me so I can boost my own ego.

Translation: I don't know why everyone's so interested in what I have. I'm just answering questions!