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Read the following posts on Seer RE: the new army;

"I had my LGS owner ask his GW rep when they met in person. The rep wouldn't confirm what the new race was, but he did say "isn't it interesting how the first map of Cathay was in the Warriors of Chaos book?"

I'm assuming that since there was a map of the whole world with the elves, he meant one with the details such as the wall and names of battles, etc.

Also, it was interesting that the Dragon King was mentioned in passing in the new Knight of the Realm novel. GW likes to drop hints like that, and it didn't really have anything at all to do with the story."--odmiller

and

"if i wasn't in the know id say

Warhammer Armies: Throwing Star Wielding Monkeys

but i am."--stepping on you

and

"The entrance of this new race will be similar to the chaos warp opening...an event to herald their entrance.."--Don't remember where I read this



Could be bullshiat but Cathay has tribes of warrior monkeys, the Dragons IIRC reside in a "Heaven" style place apart from the world (Hence their entrance). Combine this with the maps of Cathay, the lack of a distinct Asian theme in Fantasy and the growing China middle-class/market.....I'm willing to bet we'll be seeing Cathay as the new army.


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http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198828&page=5




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Planet of the Apes - old style.

I wonder if they'll have a Lord Choice for "Sūn Wùkōng" or if you'll have to have a peach to summon a portal.

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I wonder if the monkey plastic kits will be any good.

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Banana Slinger instead of shuriken catapaults.

Well, at least the flagellents will have a target for the Orangutans.

I can just see the conversions now . . .

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To start some actual conversation about Cathay as the next possible army.

What does everyone think a common Cathay theme will be in the army? Possibly the use of certain types of army book specific weapons or an army specific ability? Maybe the use of certain mounts or a certain tactical trick, how much Asian flavor do you think will be put into the Cathay book?

So let's speculate and churn us up some butter! or... rumors rather.

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Typeline wrote:To start some actual conversation about Cathay as the next possible army.


I'm hurt you would think anything otherwise.

Well, for starters even the boys at ol' GW can Google/Wikipedia so let's assume (oh how they've caught me on this one) they look at the country's literature. Now here I would say giving GW license to "borrow" your literature would take Dream of the Red Chamber and turn it into Candide, but it would all work out for the best, right?

One would assume (again) they would pull from Four Great Classical Novels of Chinese Lit.

So we have some AWESOME Lord choices from RoTK. I'm pretty sure they would have above average magic (they are coming from Heaven and have been able to seperate themselve from the known world).

For Common troops - conscripts? Gotta take a lot of monkey men to build that wall!

For Specials - I'm envisioning again - something in the way of Plaguemonks - but all drunken monkey's holding gourds filled with a "flammable" liquid. Then we get the Drunken Monkey (who I envision riding a hoda just like Lizardmen).

What does a Monkey ride on? I would say an old Ford stepside, but then I'm thinking of Clyde again. Can a monkey ride a salamander? Always looking for the antithesis to the Cold One - Monkeys riding "Hot Ones". (even a little chuckle?)

Rares - King Kong and Grape Ape Baby! Are you kidding me? Seige engines like the ones from Curse of the Golden Flower (That was freaking awesome).

Is this more like what you had in mind?

Or you could just look at the Easterlings from LotR and get a better idea as GW is generally unimaginative and they already have the molds.

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Well I've heard that it's not a human army so it doesn't contradict that.

Personally, I feel an army of monkey men would sort of cheapen the Warhammer look.
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If they make Asia the land of yellow monkeys that's it, I'm done.

I really thought they'd outgrown that whole non white=non human thing.

 
   
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It's the Tau.... they're going to get through the warp storm surrounding the planet, then crash and have to resort to primitive weapons...

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Kid_Kyoto wrote:If they make Asia the land of yellow monkeys that's it, I'm done.

I really thought they'd outgrown that whole non white=non human thing.



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lol, that's funny.

But no one has offered anything else for an explanation. At least they didn't make the Tau look Japanese.

Though I would probably buy some Samuari Apes.

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If Cathay looks like ninjas and samurai, I'm sold.


 
   
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Uriels_Flame wrote:At least they didn't make the Tau look Japanese.


Or have any connection whatsoever to Japan.

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another peice of evidence is in the ogre kingdoms book. Maneaters/Bruisers can take a cathayan longsword (I bought the model because I though that it looked funny, little did I know that it had some of the best stats). on the model the sword is huge and this is a ogre were talking about...

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GrrBear wrote:another peice of evidence is in the ogre kingdoms book. Maneaters/Bruisers can take a cathayan longsword (I bought the model because I though that it looked funny, little did I know that it had some of the best stats). on the model the sword is huge and this is a ogre were talking about...


Evidence of big ass apes being from Cathay? Could be.

But I think them being monkeys is incredibly racist. Why not just Asian people? Is that so hard to do?

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Someone always has to chime in something about race.

It's a game...a fantasy game...nothing rascist about that.

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Deadshane1 wrote:Someone always has to chime in something about race.

It's a game...a fantasy game...nothing rascist about that.


That's borderline racist right there...

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I wasn't saying that they were monkeys, I was only refering to size, for all I know they could be... someting else. Just because something isn't human (in a fictional relm) dosn't make it inferior, Just ask the librarian of the unseen university.

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It's a well known fact that the British are the only people who actually have souls making everyone else just glorified animals.

I think an army based off Chinese wuxia films would look bad-a. Curse of the Golden Flower/Hero/House of Flying Daggers style with ornate armour and clothing.

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Thorgut wrote:Personally, I feel an army of monkey men would sort of cheapen the Warhammer look.


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As not to super derail this further, I'm joking about the race thing.

I really don't care.

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avantgarde wrote:It's a well known fact that the British are the only people who actually have souls making everyone else just glorified animals.

I think an army based off Chinese wuxia films would look bad-a. Curse of the Golden Flower/Hero/House of Flying Daggers style with ornate armour and clothing.


If GW is capable of sculpting anything like that, i guarantee they'll have no problem selling them...

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Ah - you see! It's a trick! They really were letting us playtest all the Ogre Kingdoms so they could really come out with the army they wanted!

I get it! Buy up all the OgK now! Or you'll be paying too much for them later . . .

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Valhallan42nd wrote:Leave your anime bs out of my game.


Barbstrangler in my anime?

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Considering how the Tau are basically your Gundam/Mecha in 40k, I'm really not surprised there will be an Asian themed army in WHFB.

   
 
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