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Everyone's run into that special someone (not a new player) who doesn't cow to your arguments. It's that guy who thinks [X tournament winning build] isn't that powerful or [Y army] is incapable of winning a game. The question I pose is instead of arguing with him, is it cool to just romper stomper him, with said army, to win the arguement?

Ex. 1: That special guy (TSG) thinks Fantasy daemons aren't overpowered, in fact any army commanded correctly could beat daemons. You walk in with a Slaanesh Ld bomb or Tzeentch 19 PD and table him so fast he'll need three Amish furniture makers and a two-thirds vote to find his teeth.

Ex. 2: Ork playing TSG thinks Eldar are a pants army and suck noodles. You walk in with more Scatter Lasers than Muhammad Ali and Cassius Clay combined and rip him a new arse.

*edit*
To be clear there is no actual TSG, the person described is a caricatured amalgamation of people I've (and I'm sure other people) met. This was meant as a discussion not a "will people look down on me if I do this?" thread.

I wanted to put the third option but I chose to be serious instead.

Aye, kick his arse halfway to the moon where there won't be any oxygen travelling to his brain to fuel such idiotic thoughts.

Dead models speak louder than words.

I find Dark Eldar filling this role alot.

Just don't go and throw a strop if it's your arse that gets kicked.

Stomp him. Nothing else will serve.

I say stomp him.I personally wouldn't,this though is due to the fact that I would rather stay inside my house and scare the local children!

Beat him, but don't act like a douche.

After all, it's TSG, not TFG.

Get a life?

Really, no one is questioning the one side metagaming involved or the fact that it involves bringing a tourney army against an unprepared opponent? None of that seems unfair?

It's usually not worth arguing with someone like that. If their self-confidence and social skills are that bad, you'll just get angry and never win. They'll ALWAYS have an excuse for why that was a one-time thing.

Just avoid discussions with that person.

Nope, no question at all. Kill all that resist, take a few trophies home with you, burn the remainder.

avantgarde wrote:Really, no one is questioning the one side metagaming involved or the fact that it involves bringing a tourney army against an unprepared opponent? None of that seems unfair?

I would wanr him first, gives them the chance to retract their statement, or at least be prepared to put their money where their mouth is.

I'd probably just get beaten by him to be honest. Wouldn't really have a much of a choice.

I don't really see what that would prove, winning a one-off game like that. Doesn't matter how powerful a list you bring, luck could still determine the winner: if you rolled for gak and he rolled really high he could still beat you, and then what?

Play 3 games.
Stomp a mudhole in their torsos and walk your feet dry.

I think it's okay to illustrate your point with a game or three. If you're both cool about it, it can be a fun test for both players. Just make sure he knows what's coming, and be fair about it. Don't be a douche about it, and if you lose, then so be it.

We tend to toss ideas around a lot at my old FLGS. It's usually not so extreme as claiming that it's impossible to win with one army, or impossible to lose with a certain army, it's more like "I think Army 1 might struggle a lot against Army 2, unless Army 2 or Army 1 is equipped in a certain way." If everyone is just tossing ideas around, it can be cool to try to figure out which theories are solid and which ones aren't.

hawkeye wrote:I find Dark Eldar filling this role alot.

True.

Idiot: 'Lol, rofl, Dark Eldar are the sux, spehss marinez winz'

*one game later*

Idiot: 'OMG that army is overpowered you cheezmonger!'

Ketara wrote:

hawkeye wrote:I find Dark Eldar filling this role alot.

True.

Idiot: 'Lol, rofl, Dark Eldar are the sux, spehss marinez winz'

*one game later*

Idiot: 'OMG that army is overpowered you cheezmonger!'

HOW MANY LANCES DID YOU SAY???

Oldgrue wrote:Play 3 games.
Stomp a mudhole in their torsos and walk your feet dry.

Pfft, yeah, because that totally works.

"Hey you, I got beef, let's go outside melon-fether! I'll roll you like a donut!"

*gets ass beaten thoroughly*

"...best two out of three?"

Beat the hell out of him

I think you should ask him (or her! times are changing) to play for armies. If he thinks that eldar are so gak, play for armies. It would probably make him stop talking to you at least.

Honestly there isnt any reaosn to get cheezed over people like that. It wouldnt matter if you always beat them, everytime, forever. They will have a reason or something to always blow it off. That guy is just getting a rise out of you for getting so defensive. People are like that, and no matter what you do, you cant change their mind. They are ALWAYS the ultimate bad ass, with all the good stories, and always one ups everyone everywhere.
Just blow it off man. The guy sounds like an inexperienced player to be saying that anyways

I would go best 2 out of 3. Just to prove the point.

I voted "use words and hugs" becuase honestly, I'm not cocky enough to be confident in most matches to KNOW that I will table my opponent. Or even win.

My friend always says his tanks are invincible against me.

However the moment the infantry leave their carriers, they are massacred.

After thinking about this for a bit I am going to vote Nay.

The problem is there is no Nay...

Anyway, it simply isn't worth it to me to play a game like this.

Did someone say bet armies??? What a preposterous notion, I hope you lose . "DAMN DICE!"

Uberman7788 wrote:My friend always says his tanks are invincible against me.

However the moment the infantry leave their carriers, they are massacred.

He must be a Tau player then. We can't actually leave our tanks most of the time without forfeiting the game.

Grey Knight Luke wrote:I think you should ask him (or her! times are changing) to play for armies. If he thinks that eldar are so gak, play for armies. It would probably make him stop talking to you at least.

Why would I want an Eldar army?

My reply would be along the lines of "whatever".

People like that don't usually get games from me. My gaming time is precious to me and I prefer to not waste it on douche bags.

I'm developing quite a nice list of people I don't ever want to play this way.