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I they were to conquer the galaxy for the "Greater Good", then what will they do? will they go to a different galaxy/dimension and try to get them to join the greater good, or will society just collapse?

seeing as the planets in the galaxy may well outnumber the Tau they would have a job conquering far. It would be a much slower expansion and one other races can adapt to.

They'd have to develop true warp travel, first. They're at a level where they can only make short jumps and are limited in where they can travel thanks to lacking any psychic ability and thus the chance to develop a version of the Navigator gene or sorcerers to navigate the Warp.

If they somehow conquered the galaxy they would be beset by all the problems that the Imperium has. If they somehow avoid all these problems, aliens, chaos gods, etc. and run the entire galaxy perfectly, then they might go elsewhere.

They would slowly "Phase out the other races, or the Empire would split like rome. Some great tragty would befall them, like the eldar, necrons and old ones before them.

Perfection is impossible..

If they conquered the entire galaxy and then wiped out or neutralized all the current threats (included non tau allies) I can imagine them turning on their own. As if they ever could but lets just say so.

Like you know that backwards sept they currently have.. sterilized.. and then maybe that lazy sept there sterilized.. Anyone like Farsight might get a dyson sphere prison imposed on them to contain their discordance with the current greater good. I think in the end you would just have the ethereals.

I think it would be graeat.

Due to short warp capability, I imagine that each planet would be more suitably able to defend it self against invasion than Imperial planets and their PDFs could do. The rate of expansion would allow solid supply lines and well built up defense per conquest causing a more (IMHO) stable empire than the Imperial Empire (?).

There will be peace and plenty.

Chaos will collapse because there will be no negative emotions.

The Emporer will be resurrected to lead the humans and be their living god, if he likes.

The Orks, Tyranids, Necrons, and Dark Eldar will be obliterated.

Everyone will live happily ever after as long as they toe the party line.

Aside from peace, they may have a small civil war, but it won't last long. Tau physicaly can't refuse an order from an ethearal even if they want to (which they don't because the idea of no ethearals terrifies them). The other races may rebel but the have to be really stupid to try it. They would be entirely wiped out. The only reason farsight is able to carry on is because for some reason the Tau don't seem to mind that he has run, also it hints he has something alien controlling him. No normal Tau can rebel for any long period.

They are most likely to just turn their attention to improving their technology to try and make life easier. They can still aim for the greater good without war. At sometime they may try to go to another Galaxy and it's impossible to know whether they find one.

If the old ones could fail so would the TAU

sexiest_hero wrote:If the old ones could fail so would the TAU

Its quite likely that the tau were a last ditch attempt by the old ones at creating the perfect race, so the tau could actually succeed.

we all become space commies and live happily ever after cos then we are equal ...some more equal than others .. but hay

4M2A wrote:Aside from peace, they may have a small civil war, but it won't last long. Tau physicaly can't refuse an order from an ethearal even if they want to (which they don't because the idea of no ethearals terrifies them). The other races may rebel but the have to be really stupid to try it. They would be entirely wiped out. The only reason farsight is able to carry on is because for some reason the Tau don't seem to mind that he has run, also it hints he has something alien controlling him. No normal Tau can rebel for any long period.

They are most likely to just turn their attention to improving their technology to try and make life easier. They can still aim for the greater good without war. At sometime they may try to go to another Galaxy and it's impossible to know whether they find one.

I don't think the whole pheromone control theory has been proven in the fluff just yet

Retribution wrote:

4M2A wrote:Aside from peace, they may have a small civil war, but it won't last long. Tau physicaly can't refuse an order from an ethearal even if they want to (which they don't because the idea of no ethearals terrifies them). The other races may rebel but the have to be really stupid to try it. They would be entirely wiped out. The only reason farsight is able to carry on is because for some reason the Tau don't seem to mind that he has run, also it hints he has something alien controlling him. No normal Tau can rebel for any long period.

They are most likely to just turn their attention to improving their technology to try and make life easier. They can still aim for the greater good without war. At sometime they may try to go to another Galaxy and it's impossible to know whether they find one.

I don't think the whole pheromone control theory has been proven in the fluff just yet

Im pretty sure it has but i cant recall where.

the tau ruling the empire would be the best thing to happen ever! no more anti-xeno bigotry. it would be a stable empire due to a long and slow expansion. they would probably then find a way to travel past the current galaxy, rape the nids and continue spreading the greater good!

corpsesarefun wrote:

Retribution wrote:

4M2A wrote:Aside from peace, they may have a small civil war, but it won't last long. Tau physicaly can't refuse an order from an ethearal even if they want to (which they don't because the idea of no ethearals terrifies them). The other races may rebel but the have to be really stupid to try it. They would be entirely wiped out. The only reason farsight is able to carry on is because for some reason the Tau don't seem to mind that he has run, also it hints he has something alien controlling him. No normal Tau can rebel for any long period.

They are most likely to just turn their attention to improving their technology to try and make life easier. They can still aim for the greater good without war. At sometime they may try to go to another Galaxy and it's impossible to know whether they find one.

I don't think the whole pheromone control theory has been proven in the fluff just yet

Im pretty sure it has but i cant recall where.

I know it's alluded to A LOT but i don't think it's definitive, i hope 5th edition clarifies it

Tau controlling the galaxy? I severely doubt that. Multiple problems with this even REMOTELY happening:

1. Warp travel. They can only make short leaps into the warp. It would be incredibly hard for them to protect all their worlds with their fleets. Sooner or later, worlds will rapidly collapse and the Tau would be too late to save them.

2. Their empire is a speck in the galaxy. If they mounted a full-scale crusade, they would get annihilated. The Imperium would get ticked off and just obliterate them like they should have 6000 years ago.

3. The Imperium, the other aliens, and Chaos. Imperium could crush them, Necrons slowly but surely destroy them, Tyranids devour them (especially if an entire hive fleet attacked them), Orks could completely WAAAAAGH! them, and Chaos would just easily crush them (I'm a Chaos follower, I have to say that hahaha). I don't think the Eldar or Dark Eldar would be a threat to them that much, cuz they're just too few of them.

Like I said, the Tau controlling the galaxy just can't happen. Anyone who refuses to submit to the Greater Good would fight back and eventually defeat the Tau.

Even if the Tau did, it would take them millions of years to conquer the entire galaxy, as they don't have efficient warp drives. And by the time they do, the Tyranids would have eaten them.

They would then start the Shai'su Heresy, fighting over who is the greater of the good. THEN the Tyranids come along, OM NOM NOM, and it's all over.

Sure the Imperium could theoretically wipe out the Tau, the problem is it would take far more of their military power than what they can feasibly gather into a single crusade; the Tau are simply too well dug in, and they certainly aren't pushover's

If the T'au would conquer the Galaxy:

- most sentient life would be Dead , cause all the major and numerous Powers wouldn't submit to the graeatar good.
- so we Look at a galaxy without humans, Orks , tyranids, necrons.
- eldar won't share the lead, so they may have also died out.
- Chaos joining the graeatar good? Safe to assume theyre gone.
- conquer=war, lots of Dead burning Worlds.
- much less inhabitable planets.

What we would get if T'au ruled, is a nearly lifeless Galaxy ,speckled with some T'au strongholds and some Minor races ( "allies" ) somehow surviving. Maybe a few anti-graeatar good rebels, too.

Retribution wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

Retribution wrote:

4M2A wrote:Aside from peace, they may have a small civil war, but it won't last long. Tau physicaly can't refuse an order from an ethearal even if they want to (which they don't because the idea of no ethearals terrifies them). The other races may rebel but the have to be really stupid to try it. They would be entirely wiped out. The only reason farsight is able to carry on is because for some reason the Tau don't seem to mind that he has run, also it hints he has something alien controlling him. No normal Tau can rebel for any long period.

They are most likely to just turn their attention to improving their technology to try and make life easier. They can still aim for the greater good without war. At sometime they may try to go to another Galaxy and it's impossible to know whether they find one.

I don't think the whole pheromone control theory has been proven in the fluff just yet

Im pretty sure it has but i cant recall where.

I know it's alluded to A LOT but i don't think it's definitive, i hope 5th edition clarifies it

Only the book Xenology presents a theory about the pheremone control.

As with all GW fluff it is plausibly deniable.

The Tau codex doesn't say pheremones but it does say Tau can't say no to an ethearal.

The chaos gods could easily turn them against each other if the Tau did conquer if they could do it to the space marines they could do with the Tau.

I would think that having that many Tau stretched over that much distance would lead to big differences in evolution. At some point Tau might become resistant to there masters or perhaps a new sub-species of Tau. I have visions of Pandorium for some reason. Either way I agree that a massive civil war would happen.

Kilkrazy wrote:

Retribution wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

Retribution wrote:

4M2A wrote:Aside from peace, they may have a small civil war, but it won't last long. Tau physicaly can't refuse an order from an ethearal even if they want to (which they don't because the idea of no ethearals terrifies them). The other races may rebel but the have to be really stupid to try it. They would be entirely wiped out. The only reason farsight is able to carry on is because for some reason the Tau don't seem to mind that he has run, also it hints he has something alien controlling him. No normal Tau can rebel for any long period.

They are most likely to just turn their attention to improving their technology to try and make life easier. They can still aim for the greater good without war. At sometime they may try to go to another Galaxy and it's impossible to know whether they find one.

I don't think the whole pheromone control theory has been proven in the fluff just yet

Im pretty sure it has but i cant recall where.

I know it's alluded to A LOT but i don't think it's definitive, i hope 5th edition clarifies it

Only the book Xenology presents a theory about the pheremone control.

As with all GW fluff it is plausibly deniable.

It's actually mentioned explicitly in their 4th edition Codex, and goes on to say that an Ethereal can easily order a lower Tau to kill himself

ShadowAngel159 wrote:Tau controlling the galaxy? I severely doubt that. Multiple problems with this even REMOTELY happening:

1. Warp travel. They can only make short leaps into the warp. It would be incredibly hard for them to protect all their worlds with their fleets. Sooner or later, worlds will rapidly collapse and the Tau would be too late to save them.

2. Their empire is a speck in the galaxy. If they mounted a full-scale crusade, they would get annihilated. The Imperium would get ticked off and just obliterate them like they should have 6000 years ago.

3. The Imperium, the other aliens, and Chaos. Imperium could crush them, Necrons slowly but surely destroy them, Tyranids devour them (especially if an entire hive fleet attacked them), Orks could completely WAAAAAGH! them, and Chaos would just easily crush them (I'm a Chaos follower, I have to say that hahaha). I don't think the Eldar or Dark Eldar would be a threat to them that much, cuz they're just too few of them.

Like I said, the Tau controlling the galaxy just can't happen. Anyone who refuses to submit to the Greater Good would fight back and eventually defeat the Tau.

Yeah thats what I was thinking. They would be rather difficult to wipe out, as they are well defended, but they can't really expand much. There's an Ork Waaagh! hitting them one way, and a Tyranid Hive Fleet hitting them from another.

It would take quite a bit of effort to destroy the Tau Empire, but that doesn't mean no one can do it.

The tau empire could be fairly easily destroyed if any race got enough men to do it.

Imperium-crusade fleet. Macharius could have taken the tau worlds in a very short period of time.

tyranids-obvious hive fleet, the tau havent fought anything serious yet

eldar-I think if the eldar wanted to they could really hurt the tau. And tau have no psychic knowledge, so they couldnt realize eldar were pulling strings until its too late.

orks-big waaagh wipes them out.

The only reason the tau have survived is because ultramar has kept a lot of pressure off of them.

Retribution wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:

Retribution wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

Retribution wrote:

4M2A wrote:Aside from peace, they may have a small civil war, but it won't last long. Tau physicaly can't refuse an order from an ethearal even if they want to (which they don't because the idea of no ethearals terrifies them). The other races may rebel but the have to be really stupid to try it. They would be entirely wiped out. The only reason farsight is able to carry on is because for some reason the Tau don't seem to mind that he has run, also it hints he has something alien controlling him. No normal Tau can rebel for any long period.

They are most likely to just turn their attention to improving their technology to try and make life easier. They can still aim for the greater good without war. At sometime they may try to go to another Galaxy and it's impossible to know whether they find one.

I don't think the whole pheromone control theory has been proven in the fluff just yet

Im pretty sure it has but i cant recall where.

I know it's alluded to A LOT but i don't think it's definitive, i hope 5th edition clarifies it

Only the book Xenology presents a theory about the pheremone control.

As with all GW fluff it is plausibly deniable.

It's actually mentioned explicitly in their 4th edition Codex, and goes on to say that an Ethereal can easily order a lower Tau to kill himself

It says "it is speculated..." (by Imperials). That's hardly rock solid proof.

Kilkrazy wrote:

Retribution wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:

Retribution wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

Retribution wrote:

4M2A wrote:Aside from peace, they may have a small civil war, but it won't last long. Tau physicaly can't refuse an order from an ethearal even if they want to (which they don't because the idea of no ethearals terrifies them). The other races may rebel but the have to be really stupid to try it. They would be entirely wiped out. The only reason farsight is able to carry on is because for some reason the Tau don't seem to mind that he has run, also it hints he has something alien controlling him. No normal Tau can rebel for any long period.

They are most likely to just turn their attention to improving their technology to try and make life easier. They can still aim for the greater good without war. At sometime they may try to go to another Galaxy and it's impossible to know whether they find one.

I don't think the whole pheromone control theory has been proven in the fluff just yet

Im pretty sure it has but i cant recall where.

I know it's alluded to A LOT but i don't think it's definitive, i hope 5th edition clarifies it

Only the book Xenology presents a theory about the pheremone control.

As with all GW fluff it is plausibly deniable.

It's actually mentioned explicitly in their 4th edition Codex, and goes on to say that an Ethereal can easily order a lower Tau to kill himself

It says "it is speculated..." (by Imperials). That's hardly rock solid proof.

He said the theory was only mentioned in Xenology, i merely showed that it was also brought up explicitly in the Tau Codex itself