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Hey ho,

I came across this over at www.ironhands.com

'Space Marine Chapter Losses to date: 13 Lost in warp, 21 Irrecoverable battle losses, 9 Gene seed failure, 4 Inquisitorial purge, 16 Other circumstances.'

Can anyone help me fill out what chapters fit into which? There is no info on Ironhands...

So far I have Fire Hawks/LOTD as LIW

And Flame Falcons, Wolf Brothers as Purges...

So that leaves a lot...and then do the double up? So...are the Flame Falcons/Wolf Brothers also gene seed failure?

I really want to fill out the Lost in the Warp one...so any knowledge out there that can be shared would be great!

Manoknok
Current Listing:
LIW: Fire Hawks, Relictors, Star Scorpions = 3/13
Gene Seed: Flame Falcons, Wolf Brothers, Fire Hawks = 3/9
Destroyed: Emperors Scythes, Astral Knights, Emperors Swords (Necrons), Emperors Swords (Alpha), Warhawks, Venerators, Silver Stars, Shadow Wolves, Mortificators, Black Consuls, Knights of Eternity, ?Novamarines, ?Crimson Castelleans, Marines Errant = 14/21
Unknown: Brazen Skulls, Soul Drinkers, Rainbow Warriors 3/16

Fire Hawks also were a gene-seed failure, having their skin erupt in flames.

Awesome!

Good point!

3 down 6 to go for Gene seed failure!

Relictors messed too much with chaos bitz and got wiped by the Grey Knights.

Interesting info on Lexicanum about them...are they a 'Other circumstances' or 'lost in the warp' do you think?

the scythes of the Emperor died when a hive fleet nomed on their homeworld. Minotaurs I think were destroyed for genetic deviance, I can't remember the name of the red corsairs before they went chaos but they would be a case of inquisitorial action.

Did they finally kill the relicators, or were they on another penance crusade

It says the Relictors are a few hundred in number, in the eye of terror but it is unknown if they are just renegade or have gone to the horny hats.

Minotaurs are still around apparently : http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Minotaurs

Scythes: yep pretty much wiped out, fate unknown...1 for the 21 irrevocable damaged then

Astral Knights were wiped out taking the world engine down that's another for battle loss.

According to Lexicanum:
Brazen Skulls - circumstances unknown
Emperor's Swords - annihilated by Alpha Legion (4th ed codex) or Necrons (5th ed codex, possibly they were refounded?)
Fire Hawks - lost in warp, became LatD
Silver Stars - hinted that they could not maintain enough gene-seed
Sons of Gorgax - same as Silver Stars
Star Scorpions - lost in warp
Warhawks - destroyed during a black crusade lead by Doombreed
Venerators - same as Warhawks
Wolf Brothers - disbanded due to genetic instability

Epic Death for the Astral Knights

Good call!

LIW: Fire Hawks, Relictors, Star Scorpions = 3/13
Gene Seed: Flame Falcons, Wolf Brothers, Fire Hawks = 3/9
Destroyed: Emperors Scythes, Astral Knights, Emperors Swords (Necrons), Emperors Swords (Alpha), Warhawks, Venerators, Silver Stars 7/21
Unknown: Brazen Skulls 1/16

Shadow Wolves got eaten by Tyranids.

Knights of Eternity are obliterated.



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Rabidaskal: How do you know about the Shadow Wolves?Never heard of them....

Mentioned in the BL novel Helsreach, their chapter world got attacked by the Nids and they made their last stand there. The BT were trying to help them but they got nom nom nom'd in the end.

The red corsairs were the astral claws before the put spikes and skulls on their armour (someone forgot their original name?)

@ manoknok - update your first post with answers given in thread.

According to Codex: Tyranids, the homeworld of the Mortifactors was omnomnomed, so that's another 1
lost in battle.

The black consuls are destroyed, and in the novel dark creed it's heavily implied that the word bearers are responsible

Novamarines have so few troops they are now only a support chapter (when i say few it's like 200 left)

Still a fair few to go...
Er purplefood...

Are you a Churchill gardener?

That depends on what a churchill gardener is.

Well...
I might be showing my age...
I too am from the land of cider and beef

Hereford?
Then hell yeah i am.
Cider and beef are like family to me (well more cider)
Seriously though i live 5 mins away from the city center and about 2 mins away from a dairy farm

Also i remember reading about a chapter that got wiped out by the Alpha Legon in a really sneaky plot can't remember where i read it though though i'll take a looksie and see what i can see

The black templars have all of those circumstances. Black Templars suck

Did they offend you in anyway?
Not sure how they would... maybe by existing actually that can be pretty offensive for some people.

Yep the Shire! 21 years man and boy. Hardest game in the world that!
I work in the Philippines though so it is a bit random...:-p
Now that GW is open there must be a lot easier to play - before we just had the Model shop.
Anyway if you are ever at GW and you know Bern M say hello for me!

Back to Biz lest we get the thread shut...could Alpha Legion be 1/16 Other Circumstances? In Dan Abnet's book (best in series I think) they have a good twist...

Yeah i know Bern he's pretty funny.
The chapter i remember reading about had their recruits brainwashed before they got recruited so when the Alpha Legion assaulted them they sent out the trigger signal and the chapter was so disorientated they were taken apart some marines even attacked other and were recruited into the legion afterwards, so yeah list that as other when i find it out.

Samus_aran115 wrote:The black templars have all of those circumstances. Black Templars suck

'Did you just throw a burirto out of your window?'


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purplefood wrote:Yeah i know Bern he's pretty funny.
The chapter i remember reading about had their recruits brainwashed before they got recruited so when the Alpha Legion assaulted them they sent out the trigger signal and the chapter was so disorientated they were taken apart some marines even attacked other and were recruited into the legion afterwards, so yeah list that as other when i find it out.

If you can find the name for them that would be awesome...
Problem is I am assuming this quote about all the destroyed chapters is correct, and even if it is correct from GW it doesn't really mean that they are all filled in: like the 2 missing legions.

Glad you know Bern-he is a fountain of GW information...he came and visited me last year. I have known him since primary school! Small world!!

It is a small world.
Also the Crimson Castellans are mentioned in a Tyranid Codex they went partially renegade then during a showdown they were both attacked and destroyed by Hivefleet Jormangudr

Another one bites the dust.

Also Death Falcons went renegade and are now the shadow company.


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And Silver Guard and Death Falcons both went renegade.