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Why do you tend to win your games of warhammer 40,000? Is it experience and skill? Do you cheat? Do you slip your opponent $20 and tell them to go down? Is it luck? Is it because you club new players to elevate yourself to god of the gaming store?

I would love to say that it is because I walk into every game with a plan, and know what my army is going to do, and execute it perfectly... but it is because of you.

Yes you dakka, all of you. I have read this site alot, and from it I gained knowledge, between real-life and dakka, aside from daemons, I know what every single unit can do, and how I can stop it. I know their vulnerabilites, I know what to do.

Knowledge.

Thanks by the way.

I win by shear mass of people. Cant kill them all (most the time)

People generally have a hard time beating my Ork army. They don't usually have the firepower to deal with all my Ork boyz, and once my Nobz hit a unit I've pretty much got the game.

On the other hand, my Guard lose constantly. I play 2v1 games; my Guard and a buddy's Tyranids vs. Deathwing almost every week. It's hard to bring the bigger guns to bear with only 1000 points or so, and I occasionally make a stupid tactical blunder. I'm relatively new to the Guard so I'm still learning a lot.

My Space Wolves are just cursed. For some reason I can't roll to save my life with that army.

It mind sound kind of silly but I read art of war and really put it to heart and it actually really helped.

I win for three reasons:

1. My education, background, and knowledge of principles of warfare allow me to exploit the average player on the battlefield.

2. Repetition. I play the same list, from the same army in every game. It scales up for down with points, but never changes - I've gotten very good using the same list.

3. Threat Analysis /SITREP: At the start of every game, I work through my opponents' list asking questions - I want to know where the most threatening things are to me, how many there are, where they are located, etc so that I can plan and respond appropriately. 40k allows for perfect information in every fight, and I make the best of it.

I cheat maliciously and obviously, at every opportunity. even if my opponent catches 99% of my obvious cheating, the 1 that gets through wins me games.

if they call me on it, I tell them I just made an honest mistake.








seriously though, what dash said. analyze the enemy list, find the biggest threat to your strategy, and plan to kill it.

I win mainly because my opponent's stupid mistakes outnumber my own.

Good luck is what's left of good planning when the plan contacts the enemy.

What I try to teach new players is to be proactive. Spend your opponent's turn planning what each of your units is going to do. Analyze its options. Should you step around the corner and shoot? Or are you just going to get your unit killed in return? Is a charge going to pay off, etc?
Do not be a reactive player. Never sit there watching your opponent move and do his thing, then having to react to what he has done. Force your opponent to worry about what you are doing.
That and a decent army list will go a long way toward winning games.

As an aside to Dash; do you really always play the same list? Seems like you would be quite bored. I enjoy trying out new combos and concepts I think up when I have nothing better to do.

chromedog wrote:Good luck is what's left of good planning when the plan contacts the enemy.

QFT

This both why I win and why I lose.
That and who the Dice Gods hate more that day.

Depends on the army. If my Sisters win, it's because I managed the movement phase properly (the most important phase of a Sisters game). For Orks, it's not entirely that different (with the purpose of movement being getting them into an assault). With Guard, it's more the shooting phase.

I win because I got in close combat.

I fail at armor saves and shooting but I seldomly lose close combat. Even against Genestealers.

Because I've been playing competition-level tabletop games for 14 the of 24 years of my life.

Oh and always using the same dice, train them like pets.

ChrisCP wrote:Oh and always using the same dice, train them like pets.

QFT

And if you can avoid it, don't let other people use them, unless those have a record for not liking you anyway. If it likes you, don't let other people use it. I learned that from D&D, I had a particular D20 that gave me 18-20 85% of the time, but I let my fiance use it and it started giving him 18-20s and giving me 1-2s. Conversely, I let my fiance's little brother use some blue D6s that kept giving me 1s and now they give me 5s and 6s.

FyoraSilverwolf wrote:

ChrisCP wrote:Oh and always using the same dice, train them like pets.

QFT

And if you can avoid it, don't let other people use them, unless those have a record for not liking you anyway. If it likes you, don't let other people use it. I learned that from D&D, I had a particular D20 that gave me 18-20 85% of the time, but I let my fiance use it and it started giving him 18-20s and giving me 1-2s. Conversely, I let my fiance's little brother use some blue D6s that kept giving me 1s and now they give me 5s and 6s.

I just flat-out always roll 1-4's for d&d. Actually how I earned the nickname that everyone uses now.

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@Bretilla

He may not have fun, but he wins! (I kid)

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Dice gods tend to have no strong pull one way or another unless I use eldar guardians. Then they spite me.

Honersstodnt wrote:I cheat maliciously and obviously, at every opportunity. even if my opponent catches 99% of my obvious cheating, the 1 that gets through wins me games.

if they call me on it, I tell them I just made an honest mistake.

This, except if they call me on it, I point out they would win if they would simply practice cheating better. That or punch them in the groin and run away laughing maniacally.

Also, I offer sex for wins. Then I whip out my flailing tentacles. When they recoil in horror, I proclaim victory and promptly devour them. but only when playing my Emperor's Children.

Dumb luck for me most of the time. I'd consider myself an average player with average luck. Some armies I do better with. I'm pretty good with my Imperial Guard, lose most of my games with Space Marines, better than average with Sisters of Battle, Grey Knights I'm terrible with, about like marines. I am undefeated in 10 years of playing Dark Eldar, which makes them utterly boring for me.

jmurph wrote:

Also, I offer sex for wins. Then I whip out my flailing tentacles. When they recoil in horror, I proclaim victory and promptly devour them. but only when playing my Emperor's Children.

You would be quite popular in Japan.

Experience mainly, plus sticking with a list despite setbacks until I know it through and through. That, and folks tend to bring netlists they aren't very familiar with.

If all else fails, I have a .45 in the car.

I win, because no one expects mass Infantry Platoons with every squad having a las cannon in it, 5 triple las heavy weapons teams, sniper special weapon squads, and maxed out Conscript squads sitting on Objectives. No one expects it, and no one can do enough wounds to beat it in Objectives.

I run a lot of MSU and since there is no obvious choice to shoot or CC at it throws people off since about everything in my army is equally threatening to everything and about the same points.

I win because i have this uncanny ability to mess up my opponents dice.


it is so bad that once i walked into the store and a friend started rolling poorly. he had been winning until i showed up.

I don't. I am usually ecstatic when I manage a draw.

On the rare occasion when I do win, it's usually because my Plague marines decide they don't want to lie down and die today, no matter what hit's them.

Why?

For God and Country! Why else?

How?

I shoot the enemy's troops. I shoot them a lot.

A lot.

Actually, the truth is I don't win more than about 50% of the time, mostly because I'm still relatively new to the tabletop portion of the hobby (six months in at this point) but so are most other people against whom I play. Still experimenting with new armies and learning each one's various nuances as I play or play against them.

Back in 3rd edition, when I would win it came down to my tooled up Archon and his Incubi crashing into the center of the enemy force and utterly destroying it. The rest of my army was a meat shield. The Wyches were occasionlly useful for popping vehicles with Haywire. But really? It all came down to Archon Thranduil and his goons.

Now that I have started up again with Eldar, I haven't won yet lol!

Cambak wrote:I win, because no one expects mass Infantry Platoons with every squad having a las cannon in it, 5 triple las heavy weapons teams, sniper special weapon squads, and maxed out Conscript squads sitting on Objectives. No one expects it, and no one can do enough wounds to beat it in Objectives.

Seems suspect. Objectives tend to be all over the place, so you're at best tying them as they sit on their objectives, and all those special/heavy teams are a huge liability in KP missions.

oh, yes.

run all those conscripts.

i will have Sternguard with Flamers, lots of flamers. Command squads with flamers too. Landraider redeemers with flamers. Vindicators.

I win because I usually out play my opponent, in both unit match-ups and positioning. I pay attention to objectives and am always conscious of what game turn it is. I loose when my dice betray me, or if I just get lazy and stop looking ahead to the next turn.

Terminus wrote:

Cambak wrote:I win, because no one expects mass Infantry Platoons with every squad having a las cannon in it, 5 triple las heavy weapons teams, sniper special weapon squads, and maxed out Conscript squads sitting on Objectives. No one expects it, and no one can do enough wounds to beat it in Objectives.

Seems suspect. Objectives tend to be all over the place, so you're at best tying them as they sit on their objectives, and all those special/heavy teams are a huge liability in KP missions.

You say that now, but wait until I start popping your Transports. First 3 to 4 turns I drown you in unimaginable amounts of firepower and turns 5 6 (and maybe 7) I run my conscripts to the center objectives. Boo Yeah.

I normally try and just give them Target overload and pound so many threats down their throats that they make mistakes that I can capitalize upon. that, and making sure to learn from my mistakes so that they don't get repeated. pretty simple stuff really

If I win its generally because I have good luck with my Armour Saves, Even moreso with the GKs, bad luck in a single turn can cause a loss so easily with so few models.