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Last Chance to get tickets at discounted price for DaBoyz GT

The discounted tickets run out at the end of the month. We have over $3000 in prizes so far! One of the overall prizes will be Forge World Eldar Revenant Titan, custom battle-foam Packs and other cool prizes!

Here is the critical information again:

DaBoyz GT November 13th and 14th
Fri 12th November 2010 – Sun 14th November, 2010

DaBoyz GT is featuring a two-day, 80-player Warhammer 40,000 Grand Tournament, one day 30-player Warhammer Fantasy Independent Tournament Large Apocalypse event and 32 player Warmachine/Hordes event. Both of the Warhammer tournaments are part of the National Tournament, winners will be given invites from Games Workshop for the Nationals in 2011. The National tournament will be held in Las Vegas in 2011, at the end of the first Indy GT season.

Bring your best 40k, Warhammer Fantasy, Apocalypse and Warmachine/Hordes game to compete at the DaBoyz independent Grand Tournament. This is our fifth year in the row we have run this tournament. This event will be held on the campus of the University of Rochester. Awesome terrain, prizes, and opponents; awards include hand painted trophies.

Mark your calendars and start making your travel plans, because on November 12th -14th, the DaBoyz GT will return to the Rochester, New York area.


More information can found here:
http://daboyzgt.wordpress.com/da-boyz-gt/

Could you comment on the design decision behind your mission choices?

Goatboy and I will be there.

looks like it will be a lot of fun!

Hi

This is a fantastic event!

I'll be there with the rest of the Canuck Contingent!

Cheers,
Nate

Yeah....because the NE needs more GTs. :(

Where's the love for the SOUTHEAST?!?

DooDoo wrote:Could you comment on the design decision behind your mission choices?

They fit into the format of our event.

I like the format. Reminds me of GW's GT system.

Sometimes Wacky missions are fun to play and turn into some interesting games.

I like the inclusion of theme as an opportunity for people to really share some cool stuff.

And I like the opportunity to play some unique armies instead of expecting every army I face to be a Metalist clone of some Blog's downloaded wisdom.

It is good to know the GT format that basically gave birth to the large-scale tourney events is still alive and well!

It's only an hour drive from where I live so I'll certainly be there. I'm going to talk it up to my FLGS companions as well.

I will be driving for an hour and a half myself to get there.

Of course that is after flying for 4 hours to Buffalo.

Bringing the Footdar Blackmoor?

See you there

Chumb we will have to get a game in. Only going to bring one army though and they will be pretty gimp considering the Comp rules.

I'm on the fence over bringing my optimized Loganwing and just screwing comp or taking the gimpiest of all gimp lists EVAR and getting max comp.

Either way, I'd be all for getting a game in. If all the internet celebs show up Friday we could do our own Whisky Challenge

Chumbalaya wrote:I'm on the fence over bringing my optimized Loganwing and just screwing comp or taking the gimpiest of all gimp lists EVAR and getting max comp.

Either way, I'd be all for getting a game in. If all the internet celebs show up Friday we could do our own Whisky Challenge

I am not bringing anything optimized that is for sure. I am playing Blood angels and I will have a tactical squad.

Darkwynn wrote:I am playing Blood angels and I will have a tactical squad.

You crazy, man.

oh and Sanguniary Guard too!

Blackmoor wrote:I will be driving for an hour and a half myself to get there.

Of course that is after flying for 4 hours to Buffalo.

An hour and 1/2 from Buffalo? You're not doing it right

Chumbalaya wrote:Bringing the Footdar Blackmoor?

See you there

Yes, I will bring the almighty Foot Eldar!!!

Dunno if I will be making this one its a long drive, its the week after Mechanicon and I don't like comp. No way you could ditch comp?

Have to talk to my friends see if they interested though. Will go if they do.

Kirika wrote:Dunno if I will be making this one its a long drive, its the week after Mechanicon and I don't like comp. No way you could ditch comp?

Have to talk to my friends see if they interested though. Will go if they do.

Well we are pre-juding comp so you know what you are getting before you even start.

What Nkelsch said it is old school GT's used to be about.

Chumbalaya wrote:I'm on the fence over bringing my optimized Loganwing and just screwing comp or taking the gimpiest of all gimp lists EVAR and getting max comp.

Either way, I'd be all for getting a game in. If all the internet celebs show up Friday we could do our own Whisky Challenge

I pretty sure Table Top Hooligans are coming, so I will see if they are interested into doing something Friday night.

I should come up and give Shawn K. some more 40k lessons.

(as in...I'm good at teaching him how to win b/c I cannot beat him )

All of Team America will be at this tournament, plus countless other great players who have been mentioned above. This is literally the greatest concentration of 40k talent I have EVER heard of in an event. This is going to be an incredible tournament.

You know despite the comp system trying to do away with people taking competitive lists, this will be a very competitive tournament, just by the sheer number of top tier players in one tournament.

Jay_Daboyz wrote:

Kirika wrote:Dunno if I will be making this one its a long drive, its the week after Mechanicon and I don't like comp. No way you could ditch comp?

Have to talk to my friends see if they interested though. Will go if they do.

Well we are pre-juding comp so you know what you are getting before you even start.

What Nkelsch said it is old school GT's used to be about.

No, old school GTs did not use subjective comp scoring. They used objective comp scoring based on percentages and numbers of units, with only one or two of the items being subjective. Your entire comp system seems to boil down to your personal opinions about what you think makes a good/hard/soft army. Count me out.

Spacecurves wrote:All of Team America will be at this tournament, plus countless other great players who have been mentioned above. This is literally the greatest concentration of 40k talent I have EVER heard of in an event. This is going to be an incredible tournament.

If any Team America members will be there Friday night for set-up and open play, I'd love a challenge match! Not Shaun tho, I already beat him once muahaha!

LMK here or on our forum!

don_mondo wrote:

Jay_Daboyz wrote:

Kirika wrote:Dunno if I will be making this one its a long drive, its the week after Mechanicon and I don't like comp. No way you could ditch comp?

Have to talk to my friends see if they interested though. Will go if they do.

Well we are pre-juding comp so you know what you are getting before you even start.

What Nkelsch said it is old school GT's used to be about.

No, old school GTs did not use subjective comp scoring. They used objective comp scoring based on percentages and numbers of units, with only one or two of the items being subjective. Your entire comp system seems to boil down to your personal opinions about what you think makes a good/hard/soft army. Count me out.

@ Don you have been playing this game as long as I have (I remember the old lizard guard you had), but this is where you are not 100 correct. There was time that GW had matrix’s to limit wargear and units, but there were several years they did not have published comp. Back with Joe Krone and Jason Buyaki used to run the events there we never a published comp. Back in 2003 when i won best 40k Tactician i got boned on the overall, because they did not like my comp. I took Saim-Hamm back in 3rd edition with only 2 troops, but the force org. was different back then where it had 6 for org slots for fast attack. So i used all 6 slots for bikes and vypers. That army had a lot of composition and theme but the judges did not have a structured composition system so they give me a low score in composition.

We are pre-judging composition. There is going to be some tactics with it. If you plan on going 5-0, then you score lower in Composition. If you plan on going 4-1 you need to score higher in composition.


Painting and sportsmanship is also subjective do we take them out of events and just run “Ard Boyz” events. That is what is great about the GW circuit there is a GT for everyone.

I highly recommend Mechanicon. Tony and guys run a great event. Our event is typically in October, but do to unforeseen conditions it got pushed to November, but I did see this being a problem, because we have totally different events.

Jay_Daboyz wrote:

We are pre-judging composition. There is going to be some tactics with it. If you plan on going 5-0, then you score lower in Composition. If you plan on going 4-1 you need to score higher in composition.

I do not see how pre-judging helps. Does this mean someone who scored low can resubmit with a new list until they achieve the score they are looking for?

Jay_Daboyz wrote:
We are pre-judging composition.

I originally had concerns with the subjective system. However, what Jay didn't clearly lay out is that they are not only pre-judging comp, but they are willing to do it multiple times for each player providng a score and feedback each time so that the player can adjust their list and come away with a comp/power balance that they are comfortable with prior to ever attending. It is also not simply 1 or 2 people's subjective opinions, it is a hefty 6 person council.

Having had to do simply list verification for Warmasters, I cannot imagine how much work an undertaking like this will take, but I applaud the effort!

I look forward to a tournament not over run by Interweb lists and people who can spam the latest mechanic with the best mathematical edge. Instead, I am looking forward to games against good generals who are thinking outside the box and using the tools they have selected within the system Da Boyz lays out.

Its still a competitive system, it just changes the angle of attack for this particular competition.

Later,
WR

For those who haven't gone and read the document here is the direct link: https://daboyzgt.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/comp-write-up.pdf

Nothing wrong with running a comp tournament so transparently. While people such as myself might cringe at judges deciding what lists would be "fun" to play against or not (quote from the doc), there's no wrong here. If you attend, you attend in full knowledge of what is expected of you - which is all a tournament should be responsible for.

Also, major bravo on the ridiculous hard work it'll be prejudging repeatedly various peoples' lists. Looks like it'll be a fantastic tournament!

WhiteRaven wrote:

Jay_Daboyz wrote:
We are pre-judging composition.

I originally had concerns with the subjective system. However, what Jay didn't clearly lay out is that they are not only pre-judging comp, but they are willing to do it multiple times for each player providng a score and feedback each time so that the player can adjust their list and come away with a comp/power balance that they are comfortable with prior to ever attending. It is also not simply 1 or 2 people's subjective opinions, it is a hefty 6 person council.

Isn't this the Australian comp system and what they do at their GT's down under? It sounds interesting and I would like to give it a try.