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This is probably not worth starting a thread over, but I am super annoyed and want to kvetch, so suffer my nerdly wrath.

I put together a small ork army. 1000 points, just for quick games with my roommate and buddies who don't have their own armies. The heaviest hitter is the Warbosses' mob. It consists of the Warboss (straight out of Black Reach, so TL Shoota and Power Klaw) and five Nobz. Each of the Nobz has a shoot-skorcha kombi weapon, a big choppa, and 'eavy armor. They also have a Trukk to deliver them into battle. Because the Warboss is named Goldgobba (you have to say it like Goldfinger, from the James Bond theme song), I call these guys Goldgobba's Gitz.

Ran a battle Wednesday night and I used the Black Reach Nobz as proxies for Goldgobba's Gitz, but I seriously hate the BR Nobz. They are stupid looking knobrot and I hates them. So today I went out and bought a box of Ork Nobz so I could make up proper models for the Gitz. And when I got home, you know what I discovered? Five models. One shoota-skorcha. Okay, fine, whatever, I wasn't expecting five shoota-skorchas. I can make shoota-skorchas (and I have, using one of the rokkit-shootas and a flamer from a SM Land Speeder).

Also, three Iron Gobs. And that's where the WTF comes in. THREE? For five models? What the hell. WHAT THE HELL. How hard would it really have been to include two more freaking Iron Gobs so I could have five freaking Ork Nobz in freaking 'eavy Armor? FETHING FETH! Why do you do this to me GW? I want to like you. I want to believe that you aren't money-grubbing pig dog bastiches with no shame. AND THEN YOU GIVE ME THREE IRON GOBS FOR FIVE MODELS YOU FETHING GAKHEAD DONKEY CAVES. Oooh, you are really pissing me off.

So I bought a SECOND box of Nobz. FOR TWO FREAKING IRON GOBS. And another shoota-skorcha. But mostly for TWO IRON GOBS.

TWELVE FIFTY APIECE. THAT'S WHAT IRON GOBS COST APPARENTLY.

Or $10 a Nob.

Bastiches.

http://www.maelstromgames.co.uk/

www.ebay.com

GG, KK, TYVM...

Or just ask someone if they have spare Nob iron gobs - I know I probably have

(If HadoukenAvenger reads this - no - I still don't have any spare bodies!)

What's an iron gob?

Metal jaw. A bit like an Ork shoulder pad, but covers the Ork's lower jaw/mouth. Usually with teef like spiky bitz

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440269a&prodId=prod1920001

Why don't you just model one with plasticard and greenstuff?

Probably wouldn't even need greenstuff. Get some suitable diameter plasticard tube and you wouldn't even need to bend it - just cut to shape and add rivets!

And the very worst thing about that box, it only comes with three powerklaws. feth head donkey-caves indeed.

warpcrafter wrote:And the very worst thing about that box, it only comes with three powerklaws. feth head donkey-caves indeed.

3 traditional yes but 5 if you do count the buzzsaw and spear arm which most people do.

Ordo Dakka wrote:Why don't you just model one with plasticard and greenstuff?

That would work for the standard iron gobs, but the nob gobs are fancier than my skill with greenstuff.

And you're kind of missing the point. There are five models. There should be five gobs. After paying $25 for the box I shouldn't have to model bits that are that essential. Really, there should be enough parts to kit out all five models in the exact same way that the codex allows. There should be five of every weapon available, five 'eavy armor bits (which is what iron gobs are for, showing 'eavy armor), five attack squids, five ammo runts, etc.

For some reason I accept GW's policy of not giving us the actual bits we need to make the models with the weapon options in the codices, but I was seriously surprised to discover that I couldn't even make all five of the nobz armored. And while I can (in theory) do conversions and make my own bits, I shouldn't have to do that after buying their already ridiculously overpriced models. Not if I'm trying to build the model by-the-book.

Needs?

I'm sorry, but my Ork codex never explains the Nobs require an extra bit around their lower face for any reason.

I think it's meant to represent armor, not that it's the only way...

DarknessEternal wrote:Needs?

I'm sorry, but my Ork codex never explains the Nobs require an extra bit around their lower face for any reason.

Technically you don't need anything at all to represent 'eavy armor.

But on page 70, it suggests that a good way to show that 'Ard Boyz are, in fact, 'ard, is with shoulder plates and iron jaws.

I think the reason they don't all need Iron Gobs is that it's not actual wargear and from a fluff perspective Orks aren't generally all that interested in uniformity.

If they didn't give you enough... say... Legs or slugga pistols or something I'd understand the problem.

The boyz box comes with like two. You really should be fine for gobs in an Ork army.

Not to mention they really arn't necessary even to show eavy armor. Why would you want all your nobs to look the same anyways? Orks require no form of conformity.

If these were the Emperor's Space Marines, with codices and heraldry and stuff I'd understand you'r upsettiness. However, with Orks? They're Orks! Not everbody needs an iron jaw. Hell, in the name of Mork, just give one a bosspole-ish sign on its back that says 'ard! in really big (and 'ard) letters.

Brother SRM wrote:The boyz box comes with like two. You really should be fine for gobs in an Ork army.

It comes with one, its sized for a regular sized ork head, it's less decorative, and most importantly of all: I already used all of mine up.

I really like 'ard Boyz.










Wow. That sounded really gay.


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yournamehere wrote:Not to mention they really arn't necessary even to show eavy armor. Why would you want all your nobs to look the same anyways? Orks require no form of conformity.

It's a big part of my fluff. My Waaagh! is called the Yellatoof Waaagh! and the boss is an ork called Goldgobba. Who has a massive gold gob. Hence the name. All of the nobz in the army try to emulate him, generally by wearing iron gobs painted yellow. They're also highly disciplined for Orks, and they often serve as mercenaries. In their ranks they have a lot of Stormboyz and Kommandos, two of the most disciplined and regimented of ork units, and they wear actual uniforms. Well, they all wear black shirts, blue jeans, and big black boots. So they're uniformed in the same way that say skinheads or gangbangers are uniformed.

I even have special rules for the Nob who leads the one 20 ork mob with shootas (all the other Boyz have sluggas and choppas). His name is Deadeye Dak and he has a BS of THREE. That's right, this bastich knows how to AIM. Better run now! He also has a special rule representing the hours of drilling he does with his men, which translates into about twenty whole second of what might almost pass for genuine military discipline. That special rule is:
Use Da Aimy Fing!: Once per combat Deadeye Dak may activate this special rule. All Ork Boyz with shootas in the same unit as Deadeye gain +1 BS until the end of the Shooting Phase. This ability may not be activated if this army has Waaaghed.

Fluff wise its explained that Dak has a clip full of tracer rounds, and sure enough all of my ork shootas have an aimy fing on them, allowing the other boyz to follow Dak's fire.

Anyways, the point is that I'm modelling the army to look very uniform for orks.

Interesting to know what happens if Deadeye Dak ever gets a hold of a bunch of laser sights and enough batteries for them?

If it's part of you're fluff, then you best learn to model them without buying a million bits. That or get onto Combat Company/Battlewagon Bits.

Rubberanvil wrote:Interesting to know what happens if Deadeye Dak ever gets a hold of a bunch of laser sights and enough batteries for them?

I like to think of Dak and his shoota boyz as a band of Flash Gitz in the making, so if he got hold of a bunch of laser sights it'd be a case of +5 Shootier.

Hoo needz dem gobz anyway? Dey getz inna way of spittin' on fings
and makes yer Waaagh sound funny, dunnit!

Gailbraithe wrote:It's a big part of my fluff. Anyways, the point is that I'm modelling the army to look very uniform for orks.

Is GW suppose to accommodate your personal fluff when designing sprues?

The box also doesn't contain 5x power klaw, 5x big choppa, 5x kombi rokkit, 5x kombi scorcha, 5x cybork bits or in fact 5 of any weapon option other than slugga+choppa.

Imagine if it did @@

Eavy armor is for girlz.

Real Ladz use Cybork!

God forbid you have to use a bit of creativity and problem-solving to make your own! Naughty GW! Naughty naughty naughty!

Phloop wrote:God forbid you have to use a bit of creativity and problem-solving to make your own! Naughty GW! Naughty naughty naughty!

Having just spent 15 minutes making 4 Combi-Meltas out of spare gubbinz in my bitz box, I can appreciate this sentiment.

I bought a box of Nobz and Jervis Johnson wouldn't even be arsed to come to my house, assemble them, and paint them for me! The nerve!

I see the apologists have come out in force.

Gailbraithe wrote:I see the apologists have come out in force.

Apologists? Apologising for what? That GW didn't include exactly the right number of extra bits that you wanted? Especially since you wanted them because you've gone against the established fluff and decided that your orks are going to be uniform.