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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/14 17:07:47
Subject: Is TV Sci-Fi dead?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Is Sci-Fi, specifically the kind of classic sci-fi where people travel to other worlds or reside on a star ship dead? Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems there are no TV shows on currently set in space. Seems like sad times for geeks like myself who were raised on shows like star trek and their ilk.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/14 17:13:48
Subject: Re:Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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Stargate?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/14 17:14:29
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Secret lab at the bottom of Lake Superior
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Get yourself some books. I personally recommend Issac Asimov, but some people prefer Arthur C. Clarke. If you want a taste of their writing styles, check out some books of short stories by both. These guys wrote "real" science fiction-stuff that relies on predictions of future tech and the application of science. Their most famous works are the "Foundation" trilogy (I'm on book 2) for Asimov, and the "2001: A Space Odyssey" for Arthur C. Clarke. If you saw the movies and weren't that big of a fan, know that a lot more is explained in the books.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/14 17:32:35
Subject: Re:Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Manstein wrote:Stargate?
All done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/14 18:23:00
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Plastictrees
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Doctor Who.
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WARBOSS TZOO wrote:Grab your club, hit her over the head, and drag her back to your cave. The classics are classic for a reason. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/14 18:24:40
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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[DCM]
Tilter at Windmills
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Yes. This website is a figment of your imagination.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/14 18:25:43
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Sci Fi on TV?
Outcasts finished a couple of months ago in the UK but it wasn't much good.
There's top class modern SF being published in books.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/14 18:33:49
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Human Auxiliary to the Empire
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It seems like there were loads in the late 90's and theve all slowly died away. I miss farsape, so unique.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/14 18:38:28
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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Mannahnin wrote:Yes. This website is a figment of your imagination.
I loled.
Also, as long as I can watch Battlestar Galactica on my Netflix Sci-Fi is alive and well. Seriously, if you haven't seen that show, you must.
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
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Haters gon' hate. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/14 18:44:42
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Courageous Grand Master
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Isamov? Nooooooooooooooooooooooo! Dull, plodding and pedantic. Same for Arthur C Clarke. Alfred Bester is all you need.
Kilkrazy wrote:"There's top class modern SF being published in books."
Could you give some me examples please. I'm always on the lookout for something half decent. Cheers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/14 18:46:45
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Long-Range Black Templar Land Speeder Pilot
Indiana
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Monster Rain wrote:Mannahnin wrote:Yes. This website is a figment of your imagination.
I loled.
Also, as long as I can watch Battlestar Galactica on my Netflix Sci-Fi is alive and well. Seriously, if you haven't seen that show, you must.
Damn do I miss BSG.
PS: Jim Norton is hilarious.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/14 19:00:50
Subject: Re:Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:Manstein wrote:Stargate?
All done.
If by all done, you mean it JUST ended on the 9th, yes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/14 19:18:08
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:Isamov? Nooooooooooooooooooooooo! Dull, plodding and pedantic. Same for Arthur C Clarke. Alfred Bester is all you need.
Kilkrazy wrote:"There's top class modern SF being published in books."
Could you give some me examples please. I'm always on the lookout for something half decent. Cheers.
The Night's Dawn series by Peter F. Hamilton. Classic space opera. Would make an excellent series of movies, but there would have to be six of them. And they would be rated NC-17. Lots of sex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/14 19:18:46
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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Movac wrote:Monster Rain wrote:Mannahnin wrote:Yes. This website is a figment of your imagination.
I loled.
Also, as long as I can watch Battlestar Galactica on my Netflix Sci-Fi is alive and well. Seriously, if you haven't seen that show, you must.
Damn do I miss BSG.
PS: Jim Norton is hilarious.
Based on your opinion of these two things I have no doubt that you are a man of class and impeccable taste.
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
W: 1.756 Quadrillion L: 0 D: 2
Haters gon' hate. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/14 19:37:16
Subject: Re:Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Platuan4th wrote:KamikazeCanuck wrote:Manstein wrote:Stargate?
All done.
If by all done, you mean it JUST ended on the 9th, yes.
But it was their 'final' episode. Syfy didn't purchase any more episodes, killing it in effect.
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"But i'm more than just a little curious, how you're planning to go about making your amends, to the dead?" -The Noose-APC
"Little angel go away
Come again some other day
The devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/14 19:42:13
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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I think the point was that since the one sci-fi show that was popular on the network only went off the air last week declaring the genre dead is a bit premature.
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
W: 1.756 Quadrillion L: 0 D: 2
Haters gon' hate. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/14 19:43:49
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Monster Rain wrote:I think the point was that since the one sci-fi show that was popular on the network only went off the air last week declaring the genre dead is a bit premature.  Bingo. They'll probably do what SyFy always does when it ends a show: Take the summer off and be back with something new in the Fall(ie. exactly what they did with SGU after ending BSG).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/14 20:16:54
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Monster Rain wrote:I think the point was that since the one sci-fi show that was popular on the network only went off the air last week declaring the genre dead is a bit premature. 
okay, I'm better now.
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"But i'm more than just a little curious, how you're planning to go about making your amends, to the dead?" -The Noose-APC
"Little angel go away
Come again some other day
The devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/14 20:23:26
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:Isamov? Nooooooooooooooooooooooo! Dull, plodding and pedantic. Same for Arthur C Clarke. Alfred Bester is all you need. Kilkrazy wrote:"There's top class modern SF being published in books." Could you give some me examples please. I'm always on the lookout for something half decent. Cheers. Here are some authors I would recommend. They are all writing and publishing today, as well as their back catalogue. Richard Morgan: Altered Carbon, Broken Angels, Woken Furies (a series in that order). Iain M Banks: Consider Phlebas, The Player of Games, Use of Weapons, Excession, Inversions, Look to Windward, Matter, Surface Detail (novels of The Culture), also Feersum Endjinn, The Algebraist, Against a Dark Background. China Mieville: Kraken, Perdido Street Station, The City & The City, etc. Paolo Macigalupi: The Windup Girl. Alastair Reynolds: The Prefect, Chasm City, Revelation Space, Redemption Ark, Absolution Gap, Pushing Ice, Century Rain, etc. Charles Stross: The Atrocity Archives, The Jennifer Morgue, The Fuller Memorandum, Accelerando, Singularity Sky, Iron Sunrise, Glasshouse, Halting State, etc. he also writes fantasy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/14 20:50:18
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'll second Revelation Space, really good book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 04:04:20
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Platuan4th wrote:Monster Rain wrote:I think the point was that since the one sci-fi show that was popular on the network only went off the air last week declaring the genre dead is a bit premature. 
Bingo.
They'll probably do what SyFy always does when it ends a show: Take the summer off and be back with something new in the Fall(ie. exactly what they did with SGU after ending BSG).
SGU was in the works for a looong while before BSG ended.
BSG was basically failing miserably at holding an audience(which I can't say is really surprising how 'preachy' they got, and the decisions to make Cylons out of major characters likely didn't help any either) and SGU had the same issue.
Not sure how well this will play out with the crowd here but:
People just seemingly aren't that interested in scifi anymore. They're more interested in the supernatural or mythical or the fantastic. Stargate: Universe had a built-in fanbase of the SG-1/Atlantis crowd, started out in SyFy's top notch slot...and basically bombed for the first season. It was a combination of the departure from the standard 'One episode, one world' formula of the previous SG shows and the attempt to make what fans dubbed 'Battlestar Gate' that did the show in.
Things got off to a rocky start in the second, but the damage was pretty much done. Any other show would have been canned in its first season.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 04:16:58
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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Fantasy has definitely been on the rise lately, especially contemporary fantasy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 06:36:52
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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To clarify my original post: Science Fiction on TV in space. I don't really think Space Opera is the right term because I'm not sure Star Trek, Stargate, Firefly, Battlestar, etc. fall into that category but you know what I mean.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 07:03:10
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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These things go in cycles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 07:26:31
Subject: Re:Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Larry Niven has some great sci-fi.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 08:26:14
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
Imperium - Vondolus Prime
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I'd have to say the opposite is true. I'm seeing more and more sci-fi in mainstream media,not less. You remember that blockbuster movie called Avatar? You know, the one that came out last year?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 08:27:54
Subject: Re:Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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It'll come around. It always does..Right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 08:33:24
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Goddard wrote:I'd have to say the opposite is true. I'm seeing more and more sci-fi in mainstream media,not less. You remember that blockbuster movie called Avatar? You know, the one that came out last year?
He's referring to TV not the Big screen.
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"But i'm more than just a little curious, how you're planning to go about making your amends, to the dead?" -The Noose-APC
"Little angel go away
Come again some other day
The devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 08:36:14
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
Imperium - Vondolus Prime
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Oh...well...I was referring to the title, silly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 15:56:42
Subject: Is Sci-Fi dead?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Kilkrazy wrote:These things go in cycles.
Maybe, maybe not. What we expect from special effects and sets is a lot greater than it was then when Star Trek kicked off in the 60s. Sci Fi has always been a niche but now is getting more and more expensive to produce. Star ships ain't as cheap as they used to be!
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