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What happened today and the reason I stopped going to GW was mostly because buying stuff from them is like walking into a minefield and everytime you do the manager thinks you should buy alot of stuff. But He's a nice guy, though today i've been studying for finals and was kinda tired. Heres what happened..
Key- () -My Mind
So the Manager saw me browsing the Grey Knights stuff. And he remembered me from like 8 months ago. And he asked me "Are you interested in buy grey knights."
I answered "Yep, I plan on doing a conversion, and I saw the grey knights came out, just waiting for the right day."
Manger. "So what you looking for cam?"

Me: "uhh I am looking for custode like units."

Manager: "How about the dreadknight?" (Oh dear god here it goes.)

Me: "What?"

Manager: "Whats the matter the thing is awesome!" (what are you serious?)

Me: "Yeah.... It looks cool especially with the hammer. (in my mind, oh noooooo)"

Manager: "But?" (oh damn it.)

Me: "It looks like its a cradle..." (Oh noooo...)

Manager: "What? Tell me the truth do you dislike it." (okay here it goes.)

Me: "Yes I do, but in all seriousness, it is my least favorite model from GW, and that is the only model i have ever disliked from the Grey Knight List, sorry but all I want is an infantry list. I thought you remembered, I only collect Infantry." (You told me to tell the truth i did.)

Some Random Guy: Yeah because they are always outnumbered!

Manager: "But it does so much stuff and it can kill a blood thrister. Then you could put it into a Storm Raven and drop down upon the spammy blood angels!"

Me: "Yeah, But I am never going to face daemons. But tell you what, if I come up with a crazy conversion to convert into a knight titan then I will buy it. But untill then I'll just settle for the Grey Knights in Power armor for my Custodes Army."

So I buy the stuff said goodbye, and went to home depot to buy some shelves. By the way the service in home depot is awesome.

/what happened

Yeah. So I got some Grey Knights before the price raise, which i am not bothered by as I will not be buying 40k stuff for a very long time instead Scribor here i come.
Anyway, anyone have a similar experience of the store manager try and sell something you are totally out right against?

(and yes my Grammar suck x24)

Yes but it doesn't really bother me. There are A LOT of introverts on this forum aren't there.

It seems like you egged him on a bit and in all honestly the poll seems very biased. Their salesmen, their supposed to try and sell you things.
Just my two cents

It's always worse when Super-Heavy kits come out.


*graps some Super-Glue*

GW: Seen the new Stompa kit?
Me: Yes.
GW: You going to get one.
Me: I play Tyranids.
GW: You should get one.
Me: *gets out keys and jingles them in front of the Red Shirt's face until he passes out*

The guys at my local store are hilarious and very low-key. The guy today asked me if I was interested in the Finecast to which I replied that I am not a fan of SCs. He asked e why and I answered, and he agreed with me. I have a lot of respect for the guys at my store, 'cause it is used as a daycare for families who are shopping (The GW store is in Calgary's biggest mall) and they put up with a lot.

The people who shop there are a it odd however. A buddy of mine and I were shopping for Mordheim figures and I picked up a box of Saurus Warriors, and this guy practically attacked us and launched into a 10 minute monologue about how the Lizardmen are the weakest...blah..blah..blah. Kind of an awkward situation.

Ralin Givens wrote:It seems like you egged him on a bit and in all honestly the poll seems very biased. Their salesmen, their supposed to try and sell you things.
Just my two cents

Well what am I suppose to do? lie to him?
I may be an ass. But I don't lie.
And I am rarely biased.

Mewiththeface wrote:
Yes but it doesn't really bother me. There are A LOT of introverts on this forum aren't there.

Yes I completely agree. I am not an introvert. I voice my opinion all the time... Mostly because I am a speaker and speak to people during huge concerts. Argh... I hate salesmen. Especially the ones that come to the door. I open the door simile the person looks at me and similes. Then I Slam the door in their face.

I remember when they used to try and sell me a 450$ battle company when i was 13.................... I was buying a tau fire warrior squad.

lol, it just seems so odd.

"I'm thinking about a custodes army that's infantry heavy."

"Buy a dreadknight!"

...because the custodes are all about dreadknights, right? And dreadknights are also infantry!

Sidstyler wrote:lol, it just seems so odd.

"I'm thinking about a custodes army that's infantry heavy."

"Buy a dreadknight!"

...because the custodes are all about dreadknights, right?

Because Custodes are all about infantry, right?

Oh wait...

Yes. Custodes are cool. But they're "heroes" not "soldiers".

My GW manager is completely respectful and is a really nice guy. However, since Finecast has been announced he has asked me a few dozen times what my first finecast mini would be.

Can't harp on him though. I have been going to said store for over a month and have not purchased anything, and I think corporate puts him up to it mostly.


Edit: The GW east of my location has a manager who gives me the creeps though. Really buggy and gave me a look of "buy something or get out" my entire visit the last time I was there.

I have yet to go back...

Well, most GWs I visited only had the occasional "Have you seen X allready?" or "Do you need anything else?".

That´s fine and dandy, they want to sell stuff and it´s ok to ask if I allready noticed the newest release (I might be interested after all) or if I might need anything but the thing I came in for (impuls buys do happen).

There was one GW, however, that went a bit too far.
I was there because I wanted to get a Scraplauncher for Ogres. At the register it happened. The actual conversation is paraphrased since it´s been two or three years allready (it happened shortly after the Daemon release) and the conversation happened in german.

GW employee (don´t actually remember if it was a redshirt or the manager; for simplicity´s sake only called GW from now on): " A scraplauncher? You play Ogres then?"
Me: "Yup, who could say no to some guys whose religion revolves around eating."
GW: "They´re kinda weak though."
Me: "Doesn´t really matter. I like the models and spend more time painting than playing anyway"
GW: "No, really. They´re weak. Maybe you want to start Daemons instead?"
Me: *thinking* "Wait, what?"
*saying* "No thanks. As I said, I don´t care about the power level of the army I play. It only really matters that I like the models and background. And to be honest, I like neither of those about Daemons."
GW: "Wait, I´ll get some for you to take a look at."
Me: *having allready payed* "No need." *leaves store never to return*

That was the only really negative experience I had, though. Still lead to me never visiting that store again, despite it actually being the closest GW I´ve had at that time.

Kanluwen wrote:Because Custodes are all about infantry, right?

Oh wait...

Yes. Custodes are cool. But they're "heroes" not "soldiers".

And here comes The Kan again - telling us what armies we can and cannot have, even when it's 'Counts As'.

in defence of the managers of the stores and the staff as well, they will be having regular mystery shopper reviews. Most retail Stores have them on a monthly basis (those with some sort of defined sales process, which GW clearly has)

I have to experience the exact same thing each month and have bonuses based on the result so its in my favour and no doubt the manager of a GW to make sure its done the GW way. The problem is GW's way is dated and most good retail companies have realised that this "in your face" tactic is not what the customer wants and just politely acknowledge the customer when they arrive which I think we all agree is just fine.

H.B.M.C. wrote:It's always worse when Super-Heavy kits come out.


*graps some Super-Glue*

GW: Seen the new Stompa kit?
Me: Yes.
GW: You going to get one.
Me: I play Tyranids.
GW: You should get one.
Me: *gets out keys and jingles them in front of the Red Shirt's face until he passes out*

What the?

The use of shiny objects is an easy method to startle or even distract the feeble minded. One's house/car keys are often the closest at hand when such a situation arises.

H.B.M.C. wrote:The use of shiny objects is an easy method to startle or even distract the feeble minded. One's house/car keys are often the closest at hand when such a situation arises.

You should add that as a "Pro-tip" somewhere man... you would be saving thousands of lives each day in GW stores around the world.

I prefer the "pretend ball throw". Not only distracts them but makes them ago away

H.B.M.C. wrote:The use of shiny objects is an easy method to startle or even distract the feeble minded. One's house/car keys are often the closest at hand when such a situation arises.

SilverMK2 wrote:I prefer the "pretend ball throw". Not only distracts them but makes them ago away

So that's what those people were doing when I used to work in a GW store! I thought we just attracted a higher number of lunatics than average. The fact that it didn't work on me explains why I was 'made redundant' conveniently.

Or it could have been my surly demeanour and general refusal to indulge in their not-so-cryptic, stealth selling technique.

"Talk to the Customer about What They Play!"
"Show An Interest in Their Hobby!"
"Mention New Releases!"
"Make Sure They Have EVERYTHING THEY NEED!!"
"SHOW THEM NEW RELEASES!!"
"MAKE SURE THEM NEW RELEASES SHOW THEM UP-SELL UP-SELL UP-SELL!!!"

At this point the text becomes dificult to read. I do miss the staff discount though.

The guys at my shop don't do that, this is a normal conversation:

Manger: So hey how's it going?
Me: oh hey yeah I'm good how are you?
5 mins later of looking around
Manger: So what did you bring in today?
Me: Orkz!!!!!
Manger: (they usally ask about what is in my list and stuff)

So that's a normal conversation depending what I buy or bring in.

Despite all my vitriol, it really depends on your manager, and how hard he pushes the company line. Sounds like you've a good one, awb.

Ralin Givens wrote:It seems like you egged him on a bit and in all honestly the poll seems very biased. Their salesmen, their supposed to try and sell you things.
Just my two cents

Ah here is my three cents then.

A good salesmen will successfully sale you what YOU want. and you'll be happy and return again.

a BAD salesmen will try to sell you random unrelated thing , made you confused and agitated and never go back to him again.

See the difference? one have a negative impact. Which honestly hurts themselves. An example....

a Dog misses you, but you need to go somewhere. So in desperation he tries to grab your foot with its mouth,
You panic and assume he was trying to bite you. Then he gets sent to SPCA , no one wants to adopt a biter
then he gets put down.

All because it loves you and misses you! Neloooooooooooooooooooo

H.B.M.C. wrote:It's always worse when Super-Heavy kits come out.


*graps some Super-Glue*

GW: Seen the new Stompa kit?
Me: Yes.
GW: You going to get one.
Me: I play Tyranids.
GW: You should get one.
Me: *gets out keys and jingles them in front of the Red Shirt's face until he passes out*

i laughed my arse off at that,only because i heard someone else getting a similar sales pitch a while ago.

It used to be "Did you know Valkyries are in plastic now?" and "You really, really need a Stompa or *insert new release here* to go with that Guard army!"

Until recently it was "I heard about your army, sorry, how about a few new boxes of this, that and that to get you started out again?"

Well, at my store the employees are very nice and really into the hobby, just like me. I frequently visit to go in and have a chat about our models. Yes they sometimes push me in a direction I don't like to go, but that's not a reason to leave the store.

LunaHound wrote:See the difference? one have a negative impact. Which honestly hurts themselves. An example....

a Dog misses you, but you need to go somewhere. So in desperation he tries to grab your foot with its mouth,
You panic and assume he was trying to bite you. Then he gets sent to SPCA , no one wants to adopt a biter
then he gets put down.

All because it loves you and misses you! Neloooooooooooooooooooo

...holy gak, thanks for the downer LunaHound! I think I'm going to go cry myself to sleep now.

Sidstyler wrote:

LunaHound wrote:See the difference? one have a negative impact. Which honestly hurts themselves. An example....

a Dog misses you, but you need to go somewhere. So in desperation he tries to grab your foot with its mouth,
You panic and assume he was trying to bite you. Then he gets sent to SPCA , no one wants to adopt a biter
then he gets put down.

All because it loves you and misses you! Neloooooooooooooooooooo

...holy gak, thanks for the downer LunaHound! I think I'm going to go cry myself to sleep now.

It could be worse, it could be you who takes Old Yeller behind the barn and blows the brains out.

The guys at my local GW only ask if you have enough glue/paint when you are paying for the models.

Though there was that one guy...

Me: So would would you recommened for a BA army?
GW Guy: 3 vinidcators, 6 land raider crusaders, 30 Death Company, Astorath, Commander Dante, 4 squads of Sangiunary Guard, 5 Baal Preds...
(Half an hour later)
Me: So...How will I pay for all this?
GW Guy: With money I assume?
Me: I'm a full time school student (which I was at the time)
GW Guy: Oh.
He then walks of to talk to a 'real player'.

Sometimes it feels like the GW i went to, the manager reads dakka rofl.
I always complain about the one nearest to me, so i went to the one in another city.
That manager was really nice and gave me almost $50 worth GW terrain even though i didnt buy anything AND i never been there before
He had a full box of unused bits too but i told him he should keep them >.<

Now all the GW around me are closed. The "bad" one said they'll open in a new area with giant battle bunker converged with other city's play area.
So i hope to god the bad manager doesnt manage the new store. But i think is...

btw the bad manager's name is Owen (BC district Manager? ) , his face looks like the plastic catachan going @o@ , and i hate you owen!
His face looks like that , minus the muscles -_- im serious

Perhaps they wanted more gurlz to play in the store

Back when I played Chaos, I had a VERY fluffy army I called the Hammerites. Every single Aspiring champ had a thunder hammer as per the fluff and it was also infantry based that used alot of havocs. Anywho, I went into a GW shop for once......and the manager asked me what I play and was interested in. I was thinking about buying a commander mini or some type of command squad to converting into my own command squad, and I tell him about how my army is more of a radical SM chapter then actually Chaos as they completely despise Chaos. Immediately he says, "well Plague marines are pretty tough!" and grabs a box, expecting me to pay for it.

I just turned around and left.

Tragically Luna, in any narrative that sort of set-up will end up with you two seeing past your flaws and forming a long-lasting, happy relationship.

Thank god we live in real life.