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ok,this has got to be the coolest thing ive seen in awhile. if i had the money id have 2
but seriously,its not to far off from dogs,but its a step towards having more exotic pets.
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Turning wild animals into pets is a good way of preserving species. Some ecologists dont like that, but maninly because of idiots breeding Ligers etc. however I can see a possible market for 'pedigree' big cats, and thefore foxes too.
Turn members of a species into a pet and sell it to people with more money than sense and the animal species has a good chance of surviving.
Foxes are frankly way down the list. Though, they arent close to endangered, in fact Siberian foxese not a real species, just a selectively bred fur colour. Lookling at the pictures we see colour variations not too dissimilar to those of fancy rats. If wikiis to be trusted these are all red foxes just as fancy rats are all brown rats.
Given 50 years of breeding there is no reason not to end up with a domesticated strtain of the species. So in a way this is a breakthrough, but I still dont like what little we can see of the animals housing.
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I could see there being problems. Foxes are very predatory animals and it will take a lot of breeding to remove that. It isn't hard to breed an animal to live among people but that won't make it a good pet. Lots of domestic animals still have a wild nature and will hurt people.
He plans to breed enough King Cobras to supply all zoos eventually. They won't be imported anymore, alot of King Cobras get killed in the process, and Cobras from him will feed on rodents instead of other snakes.
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I think I saw a documentary or read somewhere that domesticated foxes start getting more 'dog' traits as they're bred for the traits that make them better domestic animals.
So it might be something about those traits that appear in similar animals (like wolves being bred into domestic dogs).
I saw a horizon on it. They, as a test, also bred them the other way. Making them violent. IMHO I think that is just playing god. I don't want to give money to such a morale less company. Horizon does not share my view, but that's horizon. I mean I don't mind domestication, but that is just cruel to make a species that is so nasty.
4M2A wrote:Ermm "Playing God". Like when we save premature babies or cure genetic diseases? Right?
Or breed specific breeds of Dog for their friendly demeanor or usefulness as security?
Zilegil, you missed the part that they started this program decades ago under the Soviet Union and did many of the "tests" they did to make it not worth it to the regime to shut them down(this is also the reason that they moved to Siberia to do it, at least according to the National Geographic article on them).
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Every domesticated animal has some undesirable or annoying traits. I wonder what foxes do and if they are any good with children.
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schadenfreude wrote:Every domesticated animal has some undesirable or annoying traits. I wonder what foxes do and if they are any good with children.
They're exactly like dogs, actually. As for children, just like any animal, it depends on the individual animal's personality and how the child acts around the animal. For the most part, they(the foxes) crave human interaction, regardless of the human's age.
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One of the things the breeders noticed early on was that they carried their tails more up like dogs, which is an easy way to get noticed in the areas that Foxes tend to hide and hunt.
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Orlanth wrote:Turning wild animals into pets is a good way of preserving species. Some ecologists dont like that, but maninly because of idiots breeding Ligers etc. however I can see a possible market for 'pedigree' big cats, and thefore foxes too.
Turn members of a species into a pet and sell it to people with more money than sense and the animal species has a good chance of surviving.
Foxes are frankly way down the list. Though, they arent close to endangered, in fact Siberian foxese not a real species, just a selectively bred fur colour. Lookling at the pictures we see colour variations not too dissimilar to those of fancy rats. If wikiis to be trusted these are all red foxes just as fancy rats are all brown rats.
Given 50 years of breeding there is no reason not to end up with a domesticated strtain of the species. So in a way this is a breakthrough, but I still dont like what little we can see of the animals housing.
Sorry to pounce on the second post, but preserving species is one thing (and highly laudable, don't get me wrong) but surely the whole point is about preserving ecosystems, and thus, whilst demosticating wild animals is only doing the job half arse?
Then you think they are just short burst of breathing?
"...an invitation to play always follows; here the slightly opened jaws which reveal the tongue, and the tilted angle of the mouth which stretches almost from ear to ear give a still stronger impression of laughing. This ‘laughing' is most often seen in dogs playing with an adored master and which become so excited that they soon start panting".
Simonet's team investigated the question by standing in parks with a parabolic microphone that allowed them to record the sounds that dogs made while playing from a distance. In describing the laughter sounds of dogs she says that, "To an untrained human ear, it sounds much like a pant, 'hhuh, hhuh." When the recordings were analyzed she found that that this exhalation bursts into a broader range of frequencies than does regular dog panting. She confirmed the positive effects of this laugh sound in an experiment on 15 puppies, which romped for joy simply upon hearing the recorded canine laugh. More recently she was able to show that these same sounds helped to calm dogs in an animal shelter.
When it comes to you, with the sharp panting sound ( that i call dog laughing ) , dont respond to it. Im 100% sure it'll follow up by either nudging at you , pouncing on you , try to cuddle with you, and when all that failed, it'll whine at you and then lastly, bark at you.