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Hey guys, in the dwarf army book it says this rule works against anything that is a greenskin in any description, could someone please list what enemy units can be affected by this.

cheers

IIRC:

Black Orcs
Feral Orcs
Orcs
Goblins
Hobgoblins
Gnoblars

All types of Orcs (Black and Savage included) all types of Goblin (Night Goblins and Ogre's Gnoblars included). Not sure about Hobgoblins Platuan said, he could be right.

And snotlings.

Seconded.

Any variety of Orcs, Goblins, Hobgoblins, Gnoblars and Snotlings are related and all varieties of "greenskins"

It never specifies any limitation such as if it only said the words "goblin" or "orc"
Since it just says greenskins (which isn't specific) then it applies to the whole lot of greenskin species.

TheBloodGod wrote:
Since it just says greenskins (which isn't specific) then it applies to th lot of greenskin species.

Even Nurglings? They are green skinned?

Theyre not part of the greenskin "race", so no....

But let's go back to the RAW and RAI argument and say fluff makes rules, if they are green skinned then surely they must be greenskins?

You need to keep in mind the the armybook was written by people who assume players can keep their head out of their a**.

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:But let's go back to the RAW and RAI argument and say fluff makes rules, if they are green skinned then surely they must be greenskins?

They dont have green skin, they have rotting pustulent flesh.

nosferatu1001 wrote:

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:But let's go back to the RAW and RAI argument and say fluff makes rules, if they are green skinned then surely they must be greenskins?

They dont have green skin, they have rotting pustulent flesh.

Which is rotten on green skin.

Look, in WFB/WH40k terminology, green skin is just another word for a member of the Orcish race. Snotling =not orcs =not green skins.

Snotlings are related to orcs the same way goblins are. In 40k they have some very specific xeno biology fluff on how snotlings, gretchen, orks, squigs and squigoths are related. In fantasy generally greenskin means some specific orcish stuff. I've heard snotlings called greenskins but not squigs. Others, as had been said, are goblins, gnoblars, and hobgoblins.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Look, in WFB/WH40k terminology, green skin is just another word for a member of the Orcish race. Snotling =not orcs =not green skins.

If that was the case then Goblins would have to be excluded too. While I wouldn't mind that, it is incorrect. Night Goblins especially have an ancient feud with the Dwarf race. And snotlings ARE part of the greenskin race... Plus they really have green skin. I am not sure if the terminology you write about is 40k, in WHFB there is nothing saying greenskin is only meant to be applied to Orcs.

angelshade00 wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Look, in WFB/WH40k terminology, green skin is just another word for a member of the Orcish race. Snotling =not orcs =not green skins.

If that was the case then Goblins would have to be excluded too. While I wouldn't mind that, it is incorrect. Night Goblins especially have an ancient feud with the Dwarf race. And snotlings ARE part of the greenskin race... Plus they really have green skin. I am not sure if the terminology you write about is 40k, in WHFB there is nothing saying greenskin is only meant to be applied to Orcs.

Wait, I meant nurgling. Sorry. my bad.
But yeah. Greenskin = anything orky/orcy (?) or orc related, like gobbos, snotlings, squigs (maybe) ect.

Basically anything in the O&G book that is an Ork, Snotling, or Goblin. It also includes Hobgoblins and Gnoblars.

Grey Templar wrote:Basically anything in the O&G book that is an Ork, Snotling, or Goblin. It also includes Hobgoblins and Gnoblars.

But not squigs? Strange.

In 40k it would work because Squigs are most certaintly an Orkoid subspecies.

In Fantesy, there is no such relationship.

HoverBoy wrote:You need to keep in mind the the armybook was written by people who assume players can keep their head out of their a**.

There will always be at least one guy whose thick either on purpose or just by natural selection, it's sad really.

Just because something has green skin does not make them a Greenskin and vice versa.

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:But let's go back to the RAW and RAI argument and say fluff makes rules, if they are green skinned then surely they must be greenskins?

(Emphasis mine.)

But it doesnt...

How about combined units?
Arachnarock spiders, and squig hoppers?

-Matt

I would say you only get the bonus if you are actually attacking the Greenskin part of the unit.

So if you were attacking the Goblin Shamen on an Arachnarok you would reroll. not if attacking the Spider itself.

I would say so too greenskins which would be as listed above.

And ya it would only count on the dude riding the giant spider rather than the spider itself.

What if the Giant Spider was green?

CthuluIsSpy wrote:What if the Giant Spider was green?

No matter, it dosen't have a skin

CthuluIsSpy wrote:What if the Giant Spider was green?

It still isn't part of the greenskin race.

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:But let's go back to the RAW and RAI argument and say fluff makes rules, if they are green skinned then surely they must be greenskins?

Ah, so if greenskin players just say that their orks are sunburnt and paint them red they will be immune to ancestral grudge.

I belive that the Dwarf book specifically mentions what is a Greenskin under ancesteral grudge.

Grey Templar wrote:I belive that the Dwarf book specifically mentions what is a Greenskin under ancesteral grudge.

But also says "all greenskins of any description" I asked this question not knowing what else, other than the units listed, counts as a greenskin?

GoDz KI11JOY x wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:I belive that the Dwarf book specifically mentions what is a Greenskin under ancesteral grudge.

But also says "all greenskins of any description" I asked this question not knowing what else, other than the units listed, counts as a greenskin?

Nothing outside of what was listed is currently a greenskin.

I think GW may have left openings "just in case" they introduce any new greenskin varients.