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I want to start a pre-heresy army, but I'm at a loss for which. Just want to see what public opinions are, please include a reason in the comments. No II or XI please

Alpharius, Guilliman, and Pertuarbo.

Kurze. No question.

Space Batman always wins.

Personally, I'm a fan of Goldilocks. No doubt Space Batman, Space Achilles, Space Construction Worker, and Space Tee-hee are all cool, but there's just something about Sanguinius that makes him so frakkin awesome


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@ Coolyo, Why Perturabo because he is one of the ones I'm really considering

I like Angron. I think that his hyper-aggressive stance conceals a surprising intellect. As a pre-Heresy group, he'd be one of the first I would consider.

Alpharius/Omegon is another great option, really. I like their style. The only way to do an Alpha Legion and do it justice, though, is to make all of the Marines as identical as possible.

I have always wanted to do an Alpha Legion army after reading the book Legion. I just love how nobody ever seems to know what they are up to or what their end game is. Hell nobody even knows where their homeworld is or if their primarchs are really dead or not. They are the super spies of the 40k universe.

Magnus the Red is my absolute favorite, but I also like Angron, Perturabo, Sanguinius, and Ferrus Manus.

Magnus the Red because, well first of all I am always attracted to magic-wielders. But A Thousand Sons cemented him as my favorite, he was one of the most charismatic and friendliest of Primarchs, even to mortals, yet had a fatal flaw, his arrogance. Plus he's a giant cyclops with a stare that can kill a Space Marine and gak.

Perturabo is brilliant, his technical knowledge beyond compare, yet bitter. He works hard to ensure the success of the Great Crusade, yet is under-appreciated and never reaps an equal share of the glory. Obviously he is not happy about this, and this of course leads to his betrayal.

Angron is not as one-dimensional as people think. While certainly a raging berserker in combat, he demonstrates a surprising amount of intellect when out of it, as Jimsolo mentioned, he held a justified grudge against the Emperor, and is one of the more tragic Primarchs. He's actually also shown to have a strong code of honor, and is thus moved by Kharn when he refuses to fight back against Angron, despite his warrior nature, simply because he was honour-bound not to.

Ferrus Manus is just manly. All the time. ALL THE TIME. Drowns Necron constructs under magma and now has hands made of Living Metal. Fought the Emperor when he found him, and unlike Leman Russ, wasn't knocked unconscious.

I don't think I need to expand on why Sanguinius is awesome. Badass and utterly pure, possibly the most undeniably decent of the Primarchs, possessing both valour, courage, loyalty, and above all, humility.

The Lion, The Wolf, Dorn and Magnus.

I love the relationship between the Lion and the Wolf, bitter rivalry that grew into genuine brotherhood and respect before the HH.

Dorn is a siege master, just plain awesome!

Magnus the Red is just too tragic not to feel piety for, did all the wrong things for all the right reasons.

Id say Angel-boy...dunno maybe the wings or the facts that he is plain awesome? Also Perturabo cause he is the unwanted child and not appreciated...

LEMAN RUSS! SPACE VIKINGS! Oh, seriously though, how do you pronounce Roboute Guillman?

Horus is good, I have always liked the idea of a loyalist Luna Wolves army.

BLOODCLAWallday wrote:LEMAN RUSS! SPACE VIKINGS! Oh, seriously though, how do you pronounce Roboute Guillman?

Row-Bute Gi-a-man

My personal favorites would be Sanguinius and Fulgrum. I think I have a soft spot for tragic heroes.

Fulgrim's a tragic villain, not a tragic hero. But, yeah, he or Alpharius would be my choices. Precise tactics and such.

Gotta be Kurze.
A.D.B. has fleshed out such an intense and complex character, he seriously deserves a ton of credit for taking "space batman" and making him interesting.
But seriously, Kurze.

Kurze, Sangy, Mortarion or Magnus. Thousand sons could be played with GK, Blood Angels with their own dex, Chaos or vanilla for mortarion, and probably blood angels for night lords as well.

No preference, they all taste good

My current favorite, Lorgar, didn't become interesting until the Heresy, and the Word Bearers were just boring before turning traitor.

The five that really seemed like they had character were Manus, Magnus, Kurze, Angron and Perturabo.
Manus was just too manly and awesome not to like. He was a hammer in the shape of an eagles head, can craft solid steel weapons using his fists, which are made out of living metal after he drowned what can only be described as a huge Necron construct in lava. Not too keen on the whole replacing body-parts with augments, but I'd gladly make a successor chapter that held the opposite view.

Magnus is cool simply because he was so powerful. And red. He could duel with Warlord sized Titan machines thanks to his power. The Thousand Sons too, their colour scheme and Egyptian themes really appeal to me personally.

Kurze and the Night Lords are just ace after reading their book series. Kurze was changed from Space Batman into a quite complex character. Verging from motivated clarity to absolute madness.

Dunno why Angron is cool. Maybe it's because he's so angry even his name reflects it? The World Eaters are just a band of enraged killers, led by a raging, angry lunatic. With an axe that probably stand taller than a fully grown man.

The Iron Warriors for their colour scheme, their specialty in sieges, and because Iron is a strong word that sounds cool.

But really, what makes some Legions stand out IS the Heresy. The Word Bearers went from boring the top of the pile thanks to turning traitor. All traitor Legions appeal more because of it, whether it's the blood-soaked lunacy of the World Eaters finally being unleashed fully, or the tragic fall of the Thousand Sons and Night Lords.

Magnus, fulgrim in close second.

Mortarion, 12 feet tall and can sneak up on anyone.

Kurze.
He's the goddamned night haunter.

I voted for Alpharius, though I was tempted to go with Magnus, Kurze, Mortarion, Kahn or Russ.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Kurze.
He's the goddamned night haunter.

I do so love to the point explanations

Ex: Ferrus Manus because he was so manly, he was 2 different species

iproxtaco wrote:Magnus is cool simply because he was so powerful. And red. He could duel with larger than Warlord sized Titan machines thanks to his power. The Thousand Sons too, their colour scheme and Egyptian themes really appeal to me personally.

Fixed.

Yeah, no Primarch was more convincingly godlike than Magnus the Red.

Void__Dragon wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:Magnus is cool simply because he was so powerful. And red. He could duel with larger than Warlord sized Titan machines thanks to his power. The Thousand Sons too, their colour scheme and Egyptian themes really appeal to me personally.

Fixed.

Yeah, no Primarch was more convincingly godlike than Magnus the Red.

Not to mention he raised an ocean to hold off the space wolves, that's pretty biblical as well.

IIRC he turned it to acid, actually.

He could also halt time, or at least all activity, on a planet with a thought.

Had to go with the Wolf, because Space Viking Werewolves are pretty much Awesome on Toast.

Rowboat Girlyman because. well, Ultras. They're the best for a reason.

Is that reason that they ate the II or IX (cant recall which)?

My next pick would be Corax.
He's possibly the most intelligent strategy wise of the lot (you know, because he avoids unnecessary combat and if engaged in combat will try to end it quickly and decisively).
And I'm a sucker for Poe.

Lemun Russ is also pretty cool I guess. Sure he might be a bit of a jerk, but he is a Viking. And I friggen love Vikings.

Was Corax a good fighter though. I know he had a brilliant tactical mind, but I'm not sure how he would do in a fight.