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TheAngrySquig wrote:Was Corax a good fighter though. I know he had a brilliant tactical mind, but I'm not sure how he would do in a fight.

He beat Lorgar's ass right and proper.

Always nice to see Lorgar getting his ass beaten. Now was this regular or daemon Lorgar?

Void__Dragon wrote:IIRC he turned it to acid, actually.

He could also halt time, or at least all activity, on a planet with a thought.

I'd assume it was a pretty big thought though.

Alpharius and Omegon This is no contest for me lol.

Lot of support for the dynamic duo, anyone care to explain further?

They're an unusual pair in that they're both well-written and mysterious. None of the other traitor primarchs (save possibly Kurze, I haven't read his stuff yet) have managed to pull it off. They also are among the vaunted few that have retained the godly air associated with primarchs, instead of a spoiled rich kid bitching about how daddy doesn't love him.

Thanks, I haven't really looked into them past "Tee-hee look at how sneaky we are, is there one two red blue nobody knows muahhahahahahaha"

That does seem to be how they were originally portrayed... Hopefully there'll be some new fluff giving the current Alphas some hint of their good/evil intentions.

What I don't get is why everyone likes Dorn. What did he do that's so special?

Thats not alpharius that is Magnus.

Asherian Command wrote:Thats not alpharius that is Magnus.

Yeah, just saw the accidental horrors reference there, woops


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CthuluIsSpy wrote:What I don't get is why everyone likes Dorn. What did he do that's so special?

And I was just about to ask that myself. Never got why so many people like bumblebees

TheAngrySquig wrote:Always nice to see Lorgar getting his ass beaten. Now was this regular or daemon Lorgar?

Regular. Then Corax tried to run away from the Night Hanuter.

iproxtaco wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:Always nice to see Lorgar getting his ass beaten. Now was this regular or daemon Lorgar?

Regular. Then Corax tried to run away from the Night Hanuter.

Who wouldn't? Kurze could beat down Lion, so I think he could handle Corax

Did ol' Konrad only sit on Dorn chest after ripping some bits out? Don't remember him fighting the Lion....

Initially I would say Dorn cause he is a beast,

but lately I've been thinking that Corax is a badass like how he never spoke unless it was necessary and he went into the eye of terror by himself to go redeem the souls of the mutant marines he made by accedent.
"Nevermore", Corax (bad...wait for it... ass)


Sanguinius had wings so he has that going for him, who wouldn't want friggin angel wings and fly into battle.

Ferrus Manus has metal hands, why because he drowned a metal serpent thing in lava, how tank do you have to be.

The lion, what can you say that is bad about him

Leman Russ, The Wolf of Fenris, he is an animal, whats not to like.

Horus was pretty cool before you know he had to go all evil and such.

DornFist wrote:The lion, what can you say that is bad about him

He's a treacherous sociopath with no sense of empathy or loyalty to anyone?

Leman Russ, The Wolf of Fenris, he is an animal, whats not to like.

He's a hypocritical savage with an intense hatred for reading or thinking in general?

You did ask.

Kurze. His story is the deepest of all the primarchs, and ADB has portrayed him perfectly.

I am a bit more curious about the love or Dorn. From what I read he was an extremely stuck up daddies boy. Hell he basically butchered his chapter against a killing ground created by Perturabo just because he thought that the emperor dying was his fault. Not to mention he was so stuck up he got miffed about the whole codex astartes (look I would be too, I mean who does rober guilman think he is to go ordering everyone else about) but being all weepy and getting around it with the black templars is just childish.

I am also curious why people like Horus. He was war-master, but his personality just seemed so plain. If anything he really only became interesting when he turned to chaos.

I'll probably be hung drawn and quatered for this, but I love Guilliman. Yes, he's made to be the perfect child that everybody hates, but I think that he did what the Primarch's were made for. He wasn't afraid to take control after daddy died and he was undeniably a great general. He just seems to be a mini Emprah.

But other than that, I've always liked Magnus, he only wanted to help, and he was amazingly powerful, he just never got a chance to shine. And as for the way he got bullied by Russ, you can't blame him for wanting to do things his own way for once.

The only point I'll make against Guilliman is that he alienated one of the best tacticians the Imperium has ever known because he wouldn't follow the Codex unquestioningly.

DornFist wrote: I've been thinking that Corax is a badass like how he never spoke unless it was necessary and he went into the eye of terror by himself to go redeem the souls of the mutant marines he made by accident.
"Nevermore", Corax (bad...wait for it... ass)

Yeah, nothing says badass like quoting Poe.

The lion, what can you say that is bad about him

He had no understanding of people and banished his adopted father for having a moment of jealousy?

Leman Russ, The Wolf of Fenris, he is an animal, whats not to like.

He's a savage who was all too willing to be manipulated into attempting to destroy a loyal legion?

Horus was pretty cool before you know he had to go all evil and such.

Apart from being arrogant.

Ok when people state the option: "Rowboat Girlyman" I am getting sick. So what if Ultramrines are poster boys? the fact isa that their chapter is legendary and heroic and that their Primarch saved the Imperium after the heresy.

Brother Coa wrote:Ok when people state the option: "Rowboat Girlyman" I am getting sick. So what if Ultramrines are poster boys? the fact isa that their chapter is legendary and heroic and that their Primarch saved the Imperium after the heresy.

I dont like Ultramarines, but Im getting sick of it too.

i voted for the lion because the DA were what attracted me to playing SM way back when, but now that i'm a servant of chaos, I have to go with fulgrim or angron.

probably fulgrim.

I voted Sanguinius, he got me in 40k.

BrainDeleted wrote:Did ol' Konrad only sit on Dorn chest after ripping some bits out? Don't remember him fighting the Lion....

In the last story from AoD, Savage Weapons, Kurze basically kicks the crap out of him

I like a lot of the primarchs, but i have to say, Sanguinius is my favorite.

vulkan, because he burns stuff, and has the right balance of tech (iron hands primarch too much tech)

Mortarion is my fav!!!!!!

SylvanaSekNadin wrote:I am a bit more curious about the love or Dorn. From what I read he was an extremely stuck up daddies boy. Hell he basically butchered his chapter against a killing ground created by Perturabo just because he thought that the emperor dying was his fault. Not to mention he was so stuck up he got miffed about the whole codex astartes (look I would be too, I mean who does rober guilman think he is to go ordering everyone else about) but being all weepy and getting around it with the black templars is just childish.

Dorn's own chapter is the second-most codex adherent of the founding chapters, and Sigismund and the most zealous Black Templars probably shaped the chapter into what it is today: The marines who still go on crusades for the Emperor. They're like Dorn, too attached to the past yet unwilling to yield.

Dorn's flaws are what make me like him. He's brave, but to the point of foolishness. He's incredibly intelligent, yet he's stubborn as an ox. He's the relic of an age past, and he knows it. But unlike characters such as the Lion, Guilliman, or Russ, his flaws are presented just as much as his strengths.

Brother Coa wrote:Ok when people state the option: "Rowboat Girlyman" I am getting sick. So what if Ultramrines are poster boys? the fact isa that their chapter is legendary and heroic and that their Primarch saved the Imperium after the heresy.

It's a nickname that sticks.

I have nothing against Guilliman (Even though I'm a Dorn fan), but it's fun to write Rowboat Girlyman.

I think the Lion's flaws are presented pretty well.