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So I have been playing 40k with friends since the late 90s, but I took a big hiatus about 6 years ago when I left for college. Before I left, I started painting a PCS and two squads of Cadians to look like confederate soldiers in the ACW, just for kicks. Fast forward to now, and I have been slowly getting back into the game, and since 5th Edition was quite new to me, I wanted to build a new army to run alongside my rather large Interstellar Marine Expeditionary Unit IG force. So I figured hey, I live in Virginia, why not expand on the Confederate Army concept? So this P&M blog (my first) will be a look at how that army comes together. If you would like to check out the army list thread I started to get help with a 5th edition list, check it out here.
As I am currently finishing my thesis, and hoping to have a real big boy job come January, this might be a very slow process, so bare with me.

This company will either be based off of the 33rd Virginia Regiment of the Stonewall Brigade, or the 8th Virginia Regiment (which was raised, in part, from my home county) that fought in Garnett's brigade during Pickett's charge at Gettysburg.

First, lets start off with the Artillery (heavy weapon teams). The carriages are from Spencer Smith Miniatures. They are 30mm scale, and I think are the perfect size. The detail on them is very low, but they also don't cost $10+ a piece like the nicer ones do.

Lascannons. Basically the 12pdr Napoleon of the 41st Millennium



Missile Launchers, with green stuff to make them look like 10pdr Parrott rifles. My very first green stuff job btw. I think it turned out rather well.





Autocannons. I guess either 6pdr or Whitworth rifles.




Some of the officers, standard bearers, and customs figures:

Company officer in the center, platoon officers on either side


Regimental Standard Bearer, with some Perry Miniatures plastic kit bitz thrown on there.


Sergeants with melta bombs and power weapons



"Counts as" ratlings (confederate sharpshooters). The missing heads are because I am waiting for some 28mm ACW heads to show up.




Veterans squad. Hopefully I'll get some slouch hats on there.




30 man blob with PCS. Hoping to get some heads on there with slouch and kepi hats.


Army as it stands now. The figures in the left background are left overs from the organization process, including the old standard bearer from 6 years ago. The new standard bearers will get nice 28mm flags, probably from GMB Designs.



Cool tents from Perry Miniatures to fluff up the battlefields



Things to look for in the future:
A General Jackson model that will be "counts as" Creed, including Lt Sandie Pendleton as Kell.
Rough riders based on the Perry Miniatures ACW calvalry plastic kit.
Infantry blobs kit bashed with Perry Miniatures ACW infantry plastic kit, and heads from Steve Barber Models.
13inch Seacoast mortars that "counts as" the Heavy Mortars features in the Forgeworld Death Korps of Krieg army list, and maybe in the future an earthshaker cannon on carriage modeled with a 100pdr Parrott Rifle
Astropath modeled as a signal corp flag operator / Officer of the Fleet modeled as a Confederate naval officer / Master of Ordinance modeled as a Confederate artillery officer / maybe a medic modeled as a 19th century surgeon with hacksaw.
28mm Civil War scenery including trees, houses, bridges, split rail / worm fences, stone walls, and maybe some entrenchments.
Paint. Lots of paint...
If I have the time/money and all goes well with this army, a Union themed counterpart (I can totally see an Apocalypse game where North and South must join forces to defeat a Chaos/Necron invasion, aka my brother).

Feel free to post criticism, critiques, compliments, concerns, and questions.

Cool, watch with using the same heads on most of a squad. It can look too regimented.
You probably want to check out the DKoK on the FW website. They are basically meant to look like future-y Prussian/WW1 Reichswher so they have their Lascannons, autocannons, etc. on carriages. Have a nose about. If nothing else it may give ideas.
I'll watch this however.

The Heavy Weapons team conversions look great. The carriages are the perfect size, and everything blends together naturally.

This is one of the most original IG armies I have ever seen. Fantastic sir.

Awesome! Cant wait to see more.

Advance the flag!

Some nice clean conversions there, really nice work on the "cannons"

Just watch out, I'm expecting to see your army coming under flak because of the subject matter

Thanks for the kind words guys.
I hope the Steve Barber heads will work out pretty well, because the plastic Perry kits aren't turning out to be too compatible. The Perry kits have separate hats, so you can choose between kepi and slouch, but they are a bit too small for the GW heroic scale models.

Yeah, I suppose there are some people who might take offense, and for that I apologize. I just hope they realize there is a back button in the top left corner of the screen, and don't feel the need to waste everyone's time with a historical debate. If people really feel the need to criticize me, please do it over PM. Just know that I'm not a racist or a redneck. I just like American Civil War history, and I live in Virginia...


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Bit more work.
Assembled Parrott rifles:



First start on the rough riders (trying to figure out what the left arms will be, and still waiting on heads):

Cool theme. I was thinking of doing a Union theme IG army like two years ago but lost all the Sites for bits. Thanks for embedding the links to some of the sites. might have to go back and ting of that army again. lol

That's an awesome idea. If you live anywhere near Virginia, we should play a game and write up a battle report...

Epic in every way.

looking sweet, and i assume since your using them that those perry miniature heads are the same size as gw ig heads, right? as i think they look great but dont want to buy them if they dont fit

This is cool and very orginal. I havent seen a ACW army before now. I take it your a history major? or Just have a general interest in the ACW ?

Where in VA are you? I got family in the hampton roads area.

Rogue Wolves wrote:looking sweet, and i assume since your using them that those perry miniature heads are the same size as gw ig heads, right? as i think they look great but dont want to buy them if they dont fit

They should be smaller, more to scale with real life

Although you could say that they're all mutated and have slightly smaller heads the the rest of the (big headed) imperium

looking sweet, and i assume since your using them that those perry miniature heads are the same size as gw ig heads, right? as i think they look great but dont want to buy them if they dont fit

Well the one head that I am currently using (the one on the standard bearer) is from the Zouave command sprue. The heads from the actual infantry and cavalry boxed sets are not separate. Only the hats are separate, so you can choose between kepi and slouch hats. Those hats are just a bit too small to fit on the IG heads. I might be able to cut off the heads and use them, but I am waiting for the Steve Barber separate heads to show up so I can see how well they work first.

I take it your a history major?

Engineer actually but my dad was a history major. Spent a lot of family vacations at civil war battlefields.

Where in VA are you? I got family in the hampton roads area.

I'm actually finishing up school in Norfolk, but I'm originally from the Northern Virginia area.

So still waiting on the Steve Barber heads. They are in route, just haven't shown up yet. So not much work has been done lately.

But I did put together some of the Perry 28mm plastic figures. They are definitely a bit smaller in scale than the GW stuff, but could make a decent conscript/militia squad.
Hopefully more updates come Thanksgiving...

Fantastic heavies.
The cavalry is looking about right too.
Could add 45deg shields on top turret for Chimera so they can get into the action, maybe make them look more like trains?
You really could go wild with this.
Look at the civil war sniper rifle: 25 pound H.C. Leman Civil War sniper’s rifle. Scope was as long as barrel.
fun stuff anyway.
Well Done!!!

Those Civil War minis look promising. Ill bet a table full of those guys in IG colors will be sweet.

Holy guacamole, I'm in love with this thread.

Thanks for the kind words guys. I'll try not to let you down when it comes time to paint all this It's been a while since I painted miniatures.
I just hope the Steve Barber heads work out. You should have an update on that come Thanksgiving.

Fun fact of the day: My parents are off in Italy on vacation, and apparently my dad ran into Stephen Lang at one of the museums. For you civil war fans, Stephen Lang played General Picket in the movie Gettysburg, and General Jackson in the movie Gods and Generals (and for you non-civil war fans, you would know him as the Colonel from Avatar).

I am really, really liking the look of the models. I think your army is going to have a lot of character to it and thats what I like to see. Keep up the good work sir!

I think this might interest you. i found this while browsing then Inter Webz.

http://puppetswar.eu/product.php?id_product=29

Great job with the heavy weapons!

I really like the way this is going! I'm from Texas & love anything nostalgic about the war of northern aggression. Oh & to anyone who tries to hate, the confederate flag is anything but racist, slavery was only a part of the whole thing, it was more about about the empowerment of states over the federal government & DC being too powerful (which is where we are today) the demand for the release of slaves to a culture whose entire industry was based around slave labor was the straw that broke the camels back proverbially. For the record, Jefferson Davis (president of CSA) & Robert E Lee (commander in chief of Army of CSA) had both acknowledged the real need to emancipate the slaves if they wanted to be recognized as a sovereign nation by the world powers & had intended to do so upon the end of the war.

So to that I say, keep up the good work, this is (in my mind) no more controversial than the armies based around the wehrmacht that people seem to do frequently.

I think this might interest you. i found this while browsing then Inter Webz.

Thanks for that. I did actually come across those a while ago when I was first looking for ideas, but there were only 4 usable poses for me and they were a bit on the expensive side. I also wanted something with proper slouch hats as well as kepi. If the Steve Barber heads turn out to be too small, I might end up going with these since I know they will fit properly.

Red_Starrise,
I appreciate the support and I do agree with you, but I'm really trying to keep this thread about the models and to hopefully avoid any historical arguments. You may be right, but it's just something that could start the argument that I really don't want to see right now, so please keep that in mind. Thanks.

Looking forward to an update!

This is brilliant. Where did you get the horses for the rough rider models?

i like the camo on the cadian

1. Is Parrot ML also muzzle loader?
2. you need a drummer for each command section.
3. I'm not sure who in the Southern army wears denim trousers, Line Inf? or Militia?
4. What is a 'flesh arm' components do you use to convert a Cadian shock troops powersword arm by replace the bionic ones?

KillerAngel wrote:

I think this might interest you. i found this while browsing then Inter Webz.

Thanks for that. I did actually come across those a while ago when I was first looking for ideas, but there were only 4 usable poses for me and they were a bit on the expensive side. I also wanted something with proper slouch hats as well as kepi. If the Steve Barber heads turn out to be too small, I might end up going with these since I know they will fit properly.

Red_Starrise,
I appreciate the support and I do agree with you, but I'm really trying to keep this thread about the models and to hopefully avoid any historical arguments. You may be right, but it's just something that could start the argument that I really don't want to see right now, so please keep that in mind. Thanks.

It's unavoidable. Someone has to post the obiligatory revisionist history blurb complete with self serving name change for the war. I'm not a fan of these types of armies in general (although they're not even close to as odious as the Nazis in Spaaaace! ones) but you are indeed doing some nice conversions. If you want to not offend some people (regardless of whether or not you think they should be offended), I'd suggest hinting at the southern Civil War theme instead of blatantly displaying the flag. Keep the figs, period conversions, and grey color scheme but at least come up with your own flag design that incorporates elements of the 40k Universe into it. Maybe horizontal stars and bars with the same colors but an aquila? You're taking 40k figs and adding civil war stuff to them so why not take the civil war flag and add 40k stuff to it? That would be much more thematic and less troublesome in the end for you (especially as the modelling is quite nice).

Looking forward to an update

And you shall soon I have some paint and washes inbound so can hopefully paint up some test figures while I'm home. Also the sea coast mortars and Steve Barber heads should already have shown up. I get home Tuesday night so I will probably spend Wednesday working on this.

This is brilliant. Where did you get the horses for the rough rider models?

They are Perry Miniature ACW Calvary will the upper half of the rider cut off and replaced with Cadian parts.

i like the camo on the cadian

He's one of my veterans from my rather large Interstellar Marine Expeditionary Unit army I have Almost at 3000 points with that one, all painted in in the old US woodland pattern. To give you an idea of when I started that army, that was before MARPAT became the standard Marine issued camo. I kinda want to go back and repaint everything MARPAT but that would take a loooooong time.

Is Parrot ML also muzzle loader?

I guess it technically could be... I just wanted to make it look like a parrott rifle while still using the GW weapon so that people would understand what it was.

you need a drummer for each command section.

I had some ACW drummer bits from Perry I was messing around with, but they didn't seem to work out all that well. We'll see, I'm going to keep trying.

I'm not sure who in the Southern army wears denim trousers, Line Inf? or Militia?

Denim trousers? Not really sure either, why?

What is a 'flesh arm' components do you use to convert a Cadian shock troops powersword arm by replace the bionic ones?

You mean how did I give my sergeants power weapons? I bought a bunch of bionic arm power weapon bits, and cut the power weapon off of the arm. I cut the chain sword off the normal Cadian sergeant arm and replaced it with the detached power weapon. Just requires a steady hand.

come up with your own flag design that incorporates elements of the 40k Universe into it. Maybe horizontal stars and bars with the same colors but an aquila? You're taking 40k figs and adding civil war stuff to them so why not take the civil war flag and add 40k stuff to it? That would be much more thematic and less troublesome in the end for you (especially as the modelling is quite nice).

I live in Virginia, so I don't expect much trouble but that's actually a really good idea. I mean, the Cadian regimental flags already look like Confederate Battle Flags... But I'm not sure I even want my army to be a part of the Imperium yet, so we'll see....
I realize you disagree with the theme, but thank you for at least keeping your post productive.