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That flag looks great! I'd probably even add extra aquila for a total of two in each corner diagonal to it to mimic the stars in the bars. Finally, I'd probably recommend changing the number of the regiment (possibly to one that was from Virginia historically) as the Cadian VIIIth has a long and established history in the fluff.

Well it wasn't my flag. I just searched for Cadian Regimental Flag and found that. It's a print of what the Kell model carries. I wouldn't mind having something like that, but then it would be a Cadian regiment :\ I'd have to make it different somehow.
And ironically enough, the 8th Virginia regiment was my top choice for this army...

But seriously, does anyone else see a similarity between the Cadian flag and the Confederate Battle flag or is it just me?


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This is the best I could do at the moment...

I think it looks kinda cool actually

I do see the similarity (which is why I actually thought you made up the cadian one on the fly to resemble a confederate one). As someone who isn't hot on the idea of confederates in spaaace!, I'd probably recommend grimdarking the flag a bit more in the center. Maybe a large skull, a variant of the aquila, or even the cadian castle symbol would work. At the moment, it's a bit too confederate for me personally.

warboss wrote:I do see the similarity (which is why I actually thought you made up the cadian one on the fly to resemble a confederate one). As someone who isn't hot on the idea of confederates in spaaace!, I'd probably recommend grimdarking the flag a bit more in the center. Maybe a large skull, a variant of the aquila, or even the cadian castle symbol would work. At the moment, it's a bit too confederate for me personally.

Incidently I agree, it could do with some more Grimmdarking.

May I see the actual flag of 8th Virginia line inf. please?

I'm open to ideas for a flag design, but I can't promise anything. GMB makes some really nice ACW flags that I planned on using.

I just quickly browsed this army and fell in love with it. Very Crisp and well planned out. As someone else mentioned early on, There was another Confederate army that came under heavy critism, but people need to get over it, seriously.
I love how you pulled off your heavy weapon teams, and then tents are a great touch.
Someone else mentioned getting a drummer for each squad. I like that suggestion. As well, you may look at getting Brin Milo from Gaunt's Ghosts. He'd make a neat and appropriate addition to your army. So long as I'm thinking about it, maybe a Death Corp of Krieg Commissar mounted on HorseBack from Forge World?

I'm not sure if you have already mentioned it or not, but are you considering any Vehicles for this list? I think you're better off (Theme wise) without them, just load up your heavy weapons, but if you do want some extra punch, a few Basilisks might fit in.
Truely great stuff, I hope to see a lot more of it.

KillerAngel wrote:I'm open to ideas for a flag design, but I can't promise anything. GMB makes some really nice ACW flags that I planned on using.

I see. the only similarity is. Shadow gray Saltire on red floor

Cadian flags are actually based on Baroque era German states army. especially Prussia.



don't forget that the plastic Cadian command section flag has no 'cadia' written on it.

=^.^=

I'm not sure if you have already mentioned it or not, but are you considering any Vehicles for this list?

Nope, no vehicles, just a lot of infantry and heavy weapon teams There is a link to my Army List thread on the OP.

Cadian flags are actually based on Baroque era German states army. especially Prussia

Is this a quoted fact from GW, or just your interpretation? I definitely do see the similarity.

I think I need to get some more figures done soon before we go down a flag tangent

^ it's totally mine, GW never say anything about cadian flag design.

do the elements actually comes from Cadia? or a planet named Leesburg?

Leesburg is just the area in Virginia that the 8th Virginia was recruited from, historically speaking.

uh...

ok. got it.

Do you have a plan for any 'helepolises'?, and will you use Death Korps of Krieg heavy mortar (for rules), and will you use Empire siege mortar artillery piece too?

How difficult would it be to replace the Perry Rifles with Lasguns? Really liking the style of the cannons as well. I've got vague plans to do a similiar theme guard army at some point.

Do you have a plan for any 'helepolises'?, and will you use Death Korps of Krieg heavy mortar (for rules), and will you use Empire siege mortar artillery piece too

Not sure what you are referring to with the "helepolises." The only helepolis I know of is an ancient siege tower. I plan on using the published Death Korps rules for the heavy mortar, but without using the special Death Korps rules for the men themselves, such as hardened fighters, die hards, and WS4. I'm staying away from the Empire siege mortar as they are not period correct. I will be using TA Miniatures sea coast mortars instead. I have linked to them in the original post.

How difficult would it be to replace the Perry Rifles with Lasguns?

Very difficult. The rifles themselves are molded into the body on most of the poses, and would take some careful work removing. A dremel might actually be a good tool for that one.
I also feel like lasguns would show the scale difference a little too drastic as well. I'll see if I can mock one up and take a pic when I get home.

KillerAngel wrote:

Do you have a plan for any 'helepolises'?, and will you use Death Korps of Krieg heavy mortar (for rules), and will you use Empire siege mortar artillery piece too

Not sure what you are referring to with the "helepolises." The only helepolis I know of is an ancient siege tower. I plan on using the published Death Korps rules for the heavy mortar, but without using the special Death Korps rules for the men themselves, such as hardened fighters, die hards, and WS4. I'm staying away from the Empire siege mortar as they are not period correct. I will be using TA Miniatures sea coast mortars instead. I have linked to them in the original post.
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1. Helepolises refers to any form of primitive 'tank'. yes one of the earliest application of cannons are to mount ones on the siege tower but too bad, this kind of Renaissance Helepolises aren't popular in Europe.

Da Vinci himself did design his very own Helepolises, (and it has a very advanced concepts for that kind of weapon!)

The British Rhomboid tanks are initially designed to be a modern helepolises. designed to cross trenches and No man's land and breakthrough enemy trenches and fortresses, by that time, speed is a luxury for that kind of warfare. the actual Greek Helepolis itself is designed that way.


Given that the homeworld your IG army hails from had access to any kind of automotive engines. you can also build that kind of weapons.

ok. it's actually 'Tank'. to some extent. it is Leman Russ.

2. OK. got it. Empire mortars are really renaissance Howitzers. 'cos each have thin barrels. the actual mortars used since Renaissance until the First World War have a very thick barrel.

Will you take Coehorn mortars for your HW section too?

No "Helepolises" in the ACW, so none for me. Infantry only army.

Will you take Coehorn mortars for your HW section too?

I thought about it, and even found some good miniatures for it, but since mortars are not currently that effective in the game, I decided to keep my points for better HWS. Cannons are more associated with ACW than Coehorns are anyway, and I have two 13inch sea coast mortars to fill the siege role.

Those are pretty darn cool!

KillerAngel wrote:

Will you take Coehorn mortars for your HW section too?

I thought about it, and even found some good miniatures for it, but since mortars are not currently that effective in the game, I decided to keep my points for better HWS. Cannons are more associated with ACW than Coehorns are anyway, and I have two 13inch sea coast mortars to fill the siege role.

Mr. Cuddace snubbed Mortars in the 5th edition codex mew!
we need another decades till someone made it worth using.

And what will you use for Earthshaker artillery? Dahlgren?

Hahaha this definately made my day haha

You should make a "Stonewall" Jackson Commisar, or Command HQ and give him two powerfists hahaha

What I plan to make is either listed directly in the OP or the Army List thread I linked to in the same...

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
Looks like the Steve Barber heads are going to work out just fine












Did some wash testing on one of the figures I painted 6 years ago. I think soft body black is too dark, so I'll track down one of their grey washes. I also tried blue black on one of the legs.






Some terrain by Steve Barber:





And my mortars arrived yesterday

Yay seacoast mortars... It's going to look real good on the field I think.

Dude, it looks like you are actually going to pull this off.

Wow. I'll definitely be checking back in on this plog, periodically. Conversions so far are incredibly clean (partially due to good bit selection - rather hard to muck up a head swap on a multi-part model ) and the army is still recognizably IG (and HWs are distinct and identifiable), while positively dripping period character. As someone with no particular ties to, or even much interest in, the Civil War, I'm really happy you started (and documented so nicely ) this force. It's great to finally see someone tackle it from a historical angle and not only lack an apparent agenda in his representation of the army, but actively request that discussions about such topics stay out of the thread. I'd doff my hat to you, were I wearing one (and you could actually see me).

A friend of mine is a historical wargamer (mostly Napoleonics, I believe) and an ACW (among other periods) reenactor - I think I'm going to have to link him to this thread.

More show and tell!

Drummers. Will be used as Ministorium Priests, one for each blob.




Another flag bearer for the CCS. He'll have a Virginia state flag. No special rules there, its just that each regiment had a battle flag and a state flag. I'll probably give him a slung rifle though.


Finished Rough Riders squad (one dude still needs his arm).




And finally, Stonewall Jackson He even has his customary hand held above his head, and wrapped because of a wound suffered at First Manassas. The head was cut from one of the gunners of the sea coast mortars, the arms are from the Demolisher tank commander, and the torso is from the Cadian command squad.




So whats coming up?
Swapping the heads of the infantry blobs to Steve Barber heads
Building 30 artillery gunners (HWS and mortars)
Building 5 more rough riders
Converting Kell
Hopefully getting some painting done.

Christmas break is in 2.5 weeks, so stay tuned...

Are there any good basing tutorials on creating a forest floor / east coast fields effect? Simply throwing on some green flock/grass just isn't going to do for these guys...

I was thinking something like these:

Images from Steve Barber Models

It's looking great!

1. Does he wears blue jeans (AKA Denim) trousers?

paints you used for this trousers please.
2.

do you plan to add unmounted carriage wheels into scenery piece for this Siege Mortar??


(possibly) a 13" siege mortar on railroad carriage.
I wonder without wheeled carriage, what is its transport mode while marching?

=^.^=

Does he wears blue jeans (AKA Denim) trousers?

Uniforms were typically made of wool. Grey jackets and light blue paints were common for southern troops. There will also be some browns and butternuts.

paints you used for this trousers please.

Those were Tamiya paints I had laying around. The figure was painted years ago, I was just testing some of the new washes on them. The blue is actually the Secret Weapon Blue Black wash on top of Tamiya Grey paint. The washes in the photo are much darker than I wanted.

do you plan to add unmounted carriage wheels into scenery piece for this Siege Mortar??

No, mortars would not be mounted with wheels on the field. The Forge World rules also stipulate that the mortars are immobile unless towed by a tractor (which I will not have).

I wonder without wheeled carriage, what is its transport mode while marching?

They would be transported typically by boat (sometimes rail), brought ashore, and then manhandled into place.

Actually I can help with the basing. Those reeds are probably paint brush bristles (cheap coarse decorating brushes are perfect for this) and shockingly enough the twig is a twig.