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2012/02/14 00:19:52
Subject: Re:American Civil War themed IG army (Now with proper painted figure pictures)
KillerAngel wrote:So, the result of my weeks of effort. The pace is very slow due to school/job hunting, but hopefully I'll have a fully assembled and painted army within the next few months.
Up next is the rest of the Lascannon HWS, the last two members of the CCS, some Rough Riders, and some "Ratling" sharpshooters, but there is no telling when the next update will be.
tell me about the wire you use as LASCANNON power coupling please.
which gauge of wire do you use? and is it a naked or plastic shealthed?
and will Gen. Pickett appear?
(and with a sabel stabbing his hat)
ell me about the wire you use as LASCANNON power coupling please.
which gauge of wire do you use? and is it a naked or plastic shealthed?
The wire is just from my electrical projects box. It is solid core, and plastic coated. Not sure which gauge.
and will Gen. Pickett appear?
(and with a sabel stabbing his hat)
No, General Pickett will not make an appearance.
It was Gen Armistead that had his hat on a sword during Pickett's charge, though strictly speaking the 8th Virginia was under Garnett's command during the charge.
Wasn’t getting it at first but seeing some color on those minis !!!!! wow, what a cool idea….
Yeah, it's funny what some paint can do
I wish it didn't take so long to paint these things. Come to think of it, I still have like 12 pairs of cannon crew to make, 5 more rough riders, and 60 head swaps. I'm falling way behind.
2012/02/14 19:04:04
Subject: American Civil War themed IG army (Now with proper painted figure pictures)
Man, these are some excellent conversions! Never thought I'd see a Civil War-themed IG army, especially with artillery style weapons teams. Keep it up, I will be following with great interest.
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2012/02/25 18:14:20
Subject: American Civil War themed IG army (Now with proper painted figure pictures)
1. Does your unit has a specific march anthem?
2. Will you compose the regimental version of "When Johnny comes marching home" ? and if you do. i wanna see the lyrics.
3. How do you paint lascannon? is it dwarf bronze, brazen brass or tin bit? (all GW metallic paints)? or anything comparable to each??
4. and what's next? do you have a plans to build field fortifications (trenches and earthworks) terrain piece? your regiments seems to have the function of siege regiment (oops i've said this much earlier on mew!)
6. so who did the first pep talk before the charge begins? if Gen. Armisted made a second rallying speech regarding the the importance of the campaign. the fate of Virginia itself!
As a CW history buff, I am really liking this! Keep up the good work. Are you going to do any Zouaves?
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2012/02/25 19:30:52
Subject: American Civil War themed IG army (Now with proper painted figure pictures)
"But me no buts! Our comrades get hurt. Our friends die. Falkenburg is a knight who swore an oath to serve the church and to defend the weak. He'd be the first to tell you to stop puling and start planning. Because what we are doing-at risk to ourselves-is what we have sworn to do. The West relies on us. It is a risk we take with pride. It is an oath we honour. Even when some soft southern burgher mutters about us, we know the reason he sleeps soft and comfortable, why his wife is able to complain about the price of cabbages as her most serious problem and why his children dare to throw dung and yell "Knot" when we pass. It's because we are what we are. For all our faults we stand for law and light.
Von Gherens This Rough Magic Lackey, Flint & Freer
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2012/02/25 19:36:01
Subject: American Civil War themed IG army (Now with proper painted figure pictures)
No, can't say that it does. Could be fun to put a 40k universe spin on a traditional ACW marching song
How do you paint lascannon? is it dwarf bronze, brazen brass or tin bit? (all GW metallic paints)? or anything comparable to each??
The Lascannon is painted Ancient Bronze by Reaper, washed with Soft Body Black by Secret Weapon, and then highlighted again with Ancient Bronze.
The other "cannons" (missile launchers and autocannons) will feature black barrels.
and what's next? do you have a plans to build field fortifications (trenches and earthworks) terrain piece? your regiments seems to have the function of siege regiment
Well considering I barely have enough time to finish assembling and painting my planned army, no, there are no plans for field fortifications. I will have some fences (straight and worm), stones walls, and a few 19th century houses for use on battlefields. Honestly, once this army is done, I will probably start my first non-IG army.
so who did the first pep talk before the charge begins? if Gen. Armisted made a second rallying speech regarding the the importance of the campaign. the fate of Virginia itself!
Are you referring to the movie Gettysburg? If so, the "for your lands, for your homes, etc" speech prior to the charge was in fact done by Gen Armistead. Dialogue for that movie was taken from a historical-fiction book by the name The Killer Angels (haha, I bet my username makes sense now) written by Michael Shaara, and should not be taken as what was historically spoken.
Are you going to do any Zouaves?
Unfortunately no, I have no plans for that. The skill required to model the uniforms is waaay past my skill level. I will stick with basic conversions and head swaps for now. Some Louisiana Tigers would make for a nice army theme though
We'll hang Jeff Davis by a grox apple tree?
Haha, probably not the best theme for a southern army, considering what you are referencing was a popular Union marching song...
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2012/04/04 18:13:18
Subject: American Civil War themed IG army (Now with proper painted figure pictures)
one trooper wears a very strange headwear. neither a-then common Kepi, nor cowboy hat (Officiers wear black ones). it is a cap that looks much like what Prussian Landwehr (or GW Mordian iron guard) wears.
but the Yanks do have a formation of redcoat infantry. who are they? are they americans or foreign mercs?
the U.S. army doesn't seem to have any tradition to have active combat troops wear red coats. only army parade band wear it. and historically. Major european powers are slightly sided with the souths. while treats the Union as just 'trading partners' (brits did a nasty doubledealing with both of the warring factions, sells small arms and advanced artilery to both sides.). Prussia howver, doesn't seem to play any role in this conflict... nor Otto von Bismarc cares who win.
1. Who designed civil-war style Kepi? french? or brits?
2. by 1860s. no european armies supply their line inf. with Napoleonic style Shako no more? while no one thinks of antiballistic value nor the true potentials of percussion bombshell. Russians and Prussians issued spiked hard leather helmet to troops. I don't quite figure out what kinda protections do picklehaube offers? I only know that it uses the thicker leather than ones of Shako, or as thick as Dragoon helmets of the Napoleonic wars.
and they did supply several hundread thousands of troops with those expensive headwear!
haven't the US. Army Quartermaster ever venture to Prussia and do study of uniform designs? or they've done evaluated the cost for each designs those european nations use and found out that french designs was cheapest. right?
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Perry's make Zouave models so that could make fielding them far simpler
"But me no buts! Our comrades get hurt. Our friends die. Falkenburg is a knight who swore an oath to serve the church and to defend the weak. He'd be the first to tell you to stop puling and start planning. Because what we are doing-at risk to ourselves-is what we have sworn to do. The West relies on us. It is a risk we take with pride. It is an oath we honour. Even when some soft southern burgher mutters about us, we know the reason he sleeps soft and comfortable, why his wife is able to complain about the price of cabbages as her most serious problem and why his children dare to throw dung and yell "Knot" when we pass. It's because we are what we are. For all our faults we stand for law and light.
Von Gherens This Rough Magic Lackey, Flint & Freer
Mekagorkalicious -Monkeytroll
2017 Model Count-71
2012/04/05 00:35:49
Subject: Re:American Civil War themed IG army (Now with proper painted figure pictures)
Lone Cat,
First Manassas took place very early in the Civil War before any sort of standardization was implemented. What you would have seen then would have been very different than most textbooks, books, or movies would have shown you (Gods and Generals did a phenomenal job with the historically accurate details). There were blue, grey, white, green, and red uniforms in the confederate army at the time, with each regiment, and sometimes each company with it's own unique look. Due to this, there were many friendly fire incidents that took place and much confusion. During this time, the widely recognized Confederate Battle Flag was also not even in use. Regiments would display either the CSA National Flag (which looked very similar to the USA flag under battlefield conditions, leading to more confusion) and/or their state flags. Some companies, such as E co. 33rd Virginia Infantry had their very own flag (the green flag shown in the Gods and Generals clip you posted).
I have no intentional of painting my army anything other than typical confederate grey.
The red Union uniforms you are probably referring to are called Zouaves. They are normal US volunteer regiments, but have chosen to dress in the style of the more flamboyant French military Zouave light infantry of the time. No mercenaries units were used in the Civil War per se, though many foreign nationals did fight for both sides, and entire regiments and brigades were comprised of a specific nationality in some instances. The Irish Brigades of both the North and South are a famous example of this. There were also a very large number of Germans as well.
Perry's make Zouave models so that could make fielding them far simpler
I decided that the Perry models just don't quite fit the scale of the 40k universe. They are just too small to fit in properly and don't lend themselves to should-to-shoulder formations when mounted on standard 25mm GW bases.
2012/04/05 01:40:12
Subject: Re:American Civil War themed IG army (Now with proper painted figure pictures)
KillerAngel wrote:
The red Union uniforms you are probably referring to are called Zouaves. They are normal US volunteer regiments, but have chosen to dress in the style of the more flamboyant French military Zouave light infantry of the time. No mercenaries units were used in the Civil War per se, though many foreign nationals did fight for both sides, and entire regiments and brigades were comprised of a specific nationality in some instances. The Irish Brigades of both the North and South are a famous example of this. There were also a very large number of Germans as well.
Um... ok, technically no specifically mercenary land units served, however, many units crawled with mercs who came to the US and CS offering their services for a price. 'Prince Polecat' immediately springs to mind for the CS, but over 60,000 British and Canadian subjects crossed the boarder to sign up for pay in the North. Quite a few Irish mercenaries signed on with elements of Meagher's Brigade in particular (many under clearly assumed names), though it also included some VERY non-Irish mercenaries such as the two Berber Arabs who signed on.
On the high seas, however, the CSN recruited entire mercenary crews (including the infamous CSS Alabama Of her original crew compliment, only the 24 officers were actually from the South)
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2012/04/05 01:59:58
Subject: Re:American Civil War themed IG army (Now with proper painted figure pictures)
On the high seas, however, the CSN recruited entire mercenary crews (including the infamous CSS Alabama Of her original crew compliment, only the 24 officers were actually from the South)
However, the CSS Alabama was made in England and In fact was one of the best raiders of the war sailing all 7 oceans till her final defeat off France. The crew was almost entirely mercenary or what they call "privateering" on the high seas.
Some in the north actually refused to call them privateers and prefered the terms "pirates" which under the laws of sea were NOT protected by P.O.W statures. If you wanna read about a epic cruise check out the history of the CSS Shenandoah. Still waging war AFTER the war was over thats a great way to get labeled a pirate
swampyturtle wrote:
However, the CSS Alabama was made in England and In fact was one of the best raiders of the war sailing all 7 oceans till her final defeat off France. The crew was almost entirely mercenary or what they call "privateering" on the high seas.
Point of fact, a substantial number of the CSN's ships were built or bought in England. And the Shenandoah suffered from the same problem that many ships did at the time: they were so far away from the war that it took months for the news to reach them.
Fate is in heaven, armor is on the chest, accomplishment is in the feet. - Nagao Kagetora
2012/04/05 04:20:10
Subject: Re:American Civil War themed IG army (Now with proper painted figure pictures)
Um... ok, technically no specifically mercenary land units served, however, many units crawled with mercs who came to the US and CS offering their services for a price.
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what I said. There was certainly no shortage of foreign nationals, especially on the side of the north.
2012/04/05 23:27:09
Subject: American Civil War themed IG army (Now with proper painted figure pictures)
I do remember reading Gettysburg, and there was an account of a British officer who was commanding a Confederate unit. Both name and rank escapes me, but he was in Lee's Northern Virginia army for a time before returning to the UK to tell of his exploits. However, this was mid-war era, no idea if any foreign officers were around the Southern side before that.
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2012/04/06 04:31:02
Subject: Re:American Civil War themed IG army (Now with proper painted figure pictures)
Looking very nice. The banners and Gen. Jackson look awsome. Though don't you think Jackson will look better on a 40mm base. I see people put Creed on a 40mm all the time.
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2012/05/08 19:56:39
Subject: American Civil War themed IG army (Now with proper painted figure pictures)