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I couldn't find a thread like this anywhere, so
What is the general political outlook of dakka?
Obviously the left/right system has its flaws, but it's useful as a way of gauging peoples/politicians general outlook.
I'd say centre left, I generally favour a regulated free market economy with limited government involvement.
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I label myself center right (because I believe strongly in bipartisanship and political compromise), but in a lot of ways i'm farther to the right than most people defined as being "far right"
Though its actually labeled as a far right political ideology, national socialism (and really in a lot of ways fascism in general) is very much a leftist political philosophy. The only reason its placed on the right is its anti-communist stance...
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But who is right? Most would go with Conservatives or even Nationalsoicalists, despite hardly the opposite of the left side.
In fact the Liberals are the opposite of the Socialists (how much state do we want) and thus should be the right side with the conservatives in the middle (mixing how much state they want).
And the Nationalsocialist would be right next to the communists on the left side (on the right side).
National Socialists are one of those groups that break the conventional political spectrum, and therefore illustrate why it isn't useful when you start looking closely.
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Government has nothing to do with personal power or security. It's about corruption and greed.
Corruption is a non sequitur, as it assumes a particular purpose that is separate from that which is indicated. I can tell you that my sole purpose is the acquisition of power, and the control of others, and still be a governing force.
Greed is, well, a basal element of the pursuit of personal power and security.
You, basically, just sound like a guy that thinks he can't win, which is probably true given that initial sentiment.
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Well, in France I'm right wing, in America I'm left wing. What does that make me?
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Are we talking American left, right and centre, or left, right and centre according to the rest of the world?
But more seriously, the political spectrum is shifted in different countries. Personally I can see attraction in various traditional left and right beliefs.
Yes, I agree that the NSDPA broke the political spectrum. But for the sake of others, I always say I'm far right so they get the jist. It's surprising how many people dislike Nazism, so I rarely say what I am and what i believe in....
(This is coming from someone who's great grandmother fled from Poland to escape persecution)
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DeadlySquirrel wrote:It's surprising how many people dislike Nazism
It is surprising? Really?
I do not wish to argue. Suffice to say, that history is written by the victors.... Nuff said.
Besides that being a bit of hokum, it really doesn't address the fact you are surprised that so many dislike Nazism. If anything it argues that you wouldn't be surprised that it is disliked. Are you sure you aren't conflating general Fascism with Nazism?
This isn't about what Nazism is about, but my confusion at you being surprised.
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DeadlySquirrel wrote:It's surprising how many people dislike Nazism
It is surprising? Really?
I do not wish to argue. Suffice to say, that history is written by the victors.... Nuff said.
Besides that being a bit of hokum, it really doesn't address the fact you are surprised that so many dislike Nazism. If anything it argues that you wouldn't be surprised that it is disliked. Are you sure you aren't conflating general Fascism with Nazism?
This isn't about what Nazism is about, but my confusion at you being surprised.
It is a good concept. The economic reforms being of most importance. I'm surprised so many dislike it and we all get shunned because of it, because it actually works well. Too many people have listened to the anti-Nazi propaganda. I'm more surprised that so many people are just sheep that will listen to everything the government says, every peice of propaganda bad mouthing the Nazis without even thinking to look up what they did and all of the good bits about it.
THAT is why I am surprised.
And yes, I am a Nazi.
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Hordini wrote:
corpsesarefun wrote:Perhaps he means national socialism rather than Nazism?
That's what Nazism is, dude.
Actually Nazism is not properly socialist. Gordon Brown was a Nation Socialist. He had nationalistic tendencies and was a Socialist. The NSDAP are different.
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