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Tired of OP bashing for just stating an opinion. 1/2 was useful advice that ill take away from this, the other 1/2 is just OP bashing.

lol.

BA got nothing on space wolves, grey knights, or imperial guard.

I hate to see your reaction against GK.

To a lesser extent DE and SW, maybe IG too

Nope, Blood Angels are a pretty balanced codex.

Sounds like you are a bit of a poor sport, from this rant.

Really? Played Grey Knights or Space Wolves?

Blood angels are faaaar tamer.


But what could we expect from someone who credits their iPhone with George Bernard Shaw lines?

Blood Angels were overpowered, until they took a battle cannon to the knee.

Blood Angels were overpowered, until they took a battle cannon to the knee.

^ LOL. Thats a good one.

I play guard and theyre pretty solid Ill admit that.

@MOD, im not a poor sport. Ive played dozens of BA players and im always a good sport in game. I just think that an army of PURE deepstriking like the daemons should get something to help them, or at least an astropath of sorts. The BA get all sorts of crazy special rules.

Ive played space puppies and can slaughter them, I just use khorne for that. Guard is easy to beat with monstrous creatures. As for GK I know everyone thinks theyre OP, but ive beaten them in tournaments with my daemons. 3/4 of the daemons don't shoot they and should get something like the BA.

Nobody is arguing that Daemons aren't underpowered.

Don't try comparing them to any other codex, besides maybe Tau.

They shall stand as a monument to GW's failure to write good rules, until the end of time.

What crazy special rules are you referring to? ATSKNF which every marine codex has? The Red Thirst which only happens on a roll of 6? Or the FNP and FC bubbles that are granted by a 1 wound 75 point model that can be singled out in CC and has no invulnerable save?

I think the only things in the codex that are a little much are the blood talon furiosos, but a MC or good lascannon can take those down.

They shall stand as a monument to GW's failure to write good rules, until the end of time.

Thank you. lol I think the Tau could be better too. Same with nids, they got nerfed.

ATSKNF which every marine codex has? The Red Thirst which only happens on a roll of 6? Or the FNP and FC bubbles that are granted by a 1 wound 75 point model that can be singled out in CC and has no invulnerable save?

They get to re roll fail reserves, they have DOA, they have special characters that give them extra attacks...

After wiping out my brothers Blood Angels (drop list with all the trimmings) with my Tyranids, without losing a single unit, I just giggle when I hear people say they're overpowered.

Intense. Nicely done, Ive only beaten the angels with my guard.

Ya compared to space wolfs, GK and IG they arnt too bad. I only play against BA when I play against them. I have played some deamon lists that are EVIL! I play black templar, nids and IG. you can pretty easy build a anti marine list if you play against BA alot. I only have a problem with three things in the book, the ability to spam units (boring games), the lord of cheese and blood talons. besides that they are fine.

xSoulgrinderx wrote:

They shall stand as a monument to GW's failure to write good rules, until the end of time.

Thank you. lol I think the Tau could be better too. Same with nids, they got nerfed.

ATSKNF which every marine codex has? The Red Thirst which only happens on a roll of 6? Or the FNP and FC bubbles that are granted by a 1 wound 75 point model that can be singled out in CC and has no invulnerable save?

They get to re roll fail reserves, they have DOA, they have special characters that give them extra attacks...

Right, they have some special rules, like most other dexes out there.

Trust the responses here, BA aren't overpowered. If you are able to handle GK/IG/SW fine, then you probably just need to adjust some tactics. Head over to the Tactics forum, and ask advice for dealing with BA from some of the other Daemon players out there. I'm sure you'll be able to get the help that you need, and will be smacking them around in no time!

I swear, I thought this was a parody thread.

Because when I read it, it was almost word for word a copy/paste of a thread about Grey Knights I could have sworn I read earlier tonight.

But I searched the first page of the WH40k forum manually, and couldn't find any complaint threads about Grey Knights at all.

I even went and skimmed through 5 pages of the only other thread I read on Dakka tonight. Nothing.

And when I went and did all that, then came back, I had no sense of recollection of the original thread when re-reading the original post of this thread, just like... Oh... Oh my god...

Is... Is it possible to have deja vu that feels like a REAL memory? Normally mine feels like I'm remembering it from a dream that happened months or years prior, not like it's from a real memory that happened less than a few hours prior.

Ya, thats not bad advice. Daemons just need a new updates, just hope GW wont do that they did to the nids. GK are a testimony to GWs failure at making rules.


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Is... Is it possible to have deja vu that feels like a REAL memory? Normally mine feels like I'm remembering it from a dream that happened months or years prior, not like it's from a real memory that happened less than a few hours prior.

^Yes. Ive had it happen a few times, cept its more like I have a daydream and then I watch it happen seconds or a few min later.

xSoulgrinderx wrote:Ya, thats not bad advice. Daemons just need a new updates, just hope GW wont do that they did to the nids. GK are a testimony to GWs failure at making rules.
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My poor nids......reduced to nothing but a beer a pretzels army.

Eh actually in the last tourney my purifiers had a good game vs sw but when the 3rd round came around I played ba. Was not impressed to say the least. I like that they were fast. Meant less moving for me to get them in range and table them. I have yet to be all that impressed with ba outside of blood claw furioso.

I don't play them OP...

Ya, I have a friend who plays 9 razorbacks and 3 preds for his BA list. Another guy who runs pure sanguinary guard and deepstriking assault guys, and yet another guy who plays only death company with the dread

xSoulgrinderx wrote:Ya, I have a friend who plays 9 razorbacks and 3 preds for his BA list. Another guy who runs pure sanguinary guard and deepstriking assault guys, and yet another guy who plays only death company with the dread

I'm no Daemon's expert by any stretch though I have played them several times (roomate has a daemons army). For dealing with Marine Armies I believe it is best to use a Tzeetch/Khorne combo. I played Blood Angels for over a year before switching to Orks last month, and Breath of Chaos on a DP mixed with a few bolts of change was a real butthurt at times. For the Mech Angels a Tzeetch based list would work well in theory. The Sang Guard and Death Company lists are ridiculously expensive to run. Anything with power weapons kill Sang guard and death company outright. Not to mention with the Death Company's rage rule you can basically herd them in a manner to take the advantage so long as you are smart with your deep strikes,

Again I am no expert with Daemons but perhaps if you post your typical list in the tactics forum others with more knowledge can assist you. And as far as the special rules go, every newer army has shiny special rules. Hell, I would rather scatter 2D6 and have 13 13 11 transports for 100 points but c'est la vie.

This thread is a good example of the fact that gk are not the only codex people are upset about.

Blood Angels are overpowered against regular marines for sure. But as for now, GK makes mockery of them. So no, they're just really tough.

Devil Dog wrote:This thread is a good example of the fact that gk are not the only codex people are upset about.

But is it the only codex that people are justifiably upset about?

xSoulgrinderx wrote:Who thinks that Blood Angels are WAAAAYYY to overpowered? To many frelling rules and assaults and bonus attacks and just arrrghh..... hate them, everyone plays them. I play daemons and how can some human marines get to deep strike ONLY D6 and then ASSAULT! WTF! Thats messed up, and totally unfair compared to codexs that need stuff. Its been so bad at my LGS that I refuse to play against them. I want to burn every BA codex and send the ashes to GW.

Anyone else feel the same...?

I think that this sir has just lost a game against Blood Angels, and cant stand his loss, so now he goes raging across the interwebs.
Tsssk to you, mate.
Tsssk.



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xSoulgrinderx wrote:Ya, I have a friend who plays 9 razorbacks and 3 preds for his BA list. Another guy who runs pure sanguinary guard and deepstriking assault guys, and yet another guy who plays only death company with the dread

The Razorbacks means just many points.
Sanguinary guard is a really vulnerable list.
Only DC is the most weak list ever.

Bah, they are tame compared to IG, GK and SW.

I think you are just a saw loser, and took it out on BA because they beat you.

Devil Dog wrote:This thread is a good example of the fact that gk are not the only codex people are upset about.

Yes, just the only codex that people who know how to play are upset about.

Devil Dog wrote:This thread is a good example of the fact that gk are not the only codex people are upset about.

The OP sounds like a bit of inexperienced QQ about something that is not all that powerful.

SlaveToDorkness wrote:Yes, just the only codex that people who know how to play are upset about.

And even then, the GK's have their weaknesses.

Wow, lot of OP bashing. Guy must be a real tool if he has emotions....

How about this, instead of bashing the OP you do something constructive, like say, offer advice.

xSoulgrinderx wrote:Wow, lot of OP bashing. Guy must be a real tool if he has emotions....

How about this, instead of bashing the OP you do something constructive, like say, offer advice.

Ok, I disagree with you as DA are NOT overpowered. Look at GK, SW and IG.

Either the other guy is a good BA player, oooooor..