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Could someone please post a detailed review/opinion of the new line? (for the benefit of me and others)
Thanks
Norn King

Norn King wrote:Could someone please post a detailed review/opinion of the new line? (for the benefit of me and others)
Thanks
Norn King

Enjoy your lid that will break before you finish your paint.
And premium pricing xD

Considering that these paints are on Advance Order right now, a review may be a little early, don't you think?

SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Considering that these paints are on Advance Order right now, a review may be a little early, don't you think?

Some of us already used it in person

Bit of a general, because I dont have much time:

Bases: Pretty similiar to the old foundation ones, but now theres more.

Layer: Similiar to the old colour ones, yet again theres more.

Glazes: Basically, they're washes that instead of darkening the model etc, dont change the darkness/lightness but more change the brightness. Used for brightening up highlights etc.

Shades: Similiar to glazes, except they darken down the model and surprisingly enough, add more shading to it. Works similiarly to washes, but are better.

Dry: Thicker, almost foam-like in texture. Used solely for drybrushing, seem to be pretty useful.

Technical: Ardcoat: Just like the old 'ard coat, basically matt varnish (I think).
Lahmian Medium: Just like normal medium, thins out paint, but they dont lose their integrity, used for making your own washes etc.
Imperial Primer: Used for priming models.
Liquid Green Stuff: Normal liquid greenstuff.

Texture: Imagine paint mixed with grit/sand that you can just paint on your base and clump it on your base and it dries in clumps, great for basing. Would be very good for nurgle armies to paint on the actual models to add rotteness etc.

Thank You.

What I'm worried about is how close the colors are to the old paints.

Maybe they can throw a colour match chart up somewhere now?
I currently own every colour from GW (got a cheap mega set a while back and expanded a bit)

However, im hoping they havent done away with anything.

If they have, im buying tau sept foundation and red wash in huge bulk

Even with a color match chart you can have small discrepancies with the color.

theres a colour match chart on the website, but some of the "matches" are a load of Feth.

For me I am going to finish my current army with my existing paint then get the mega paint set (or whatever they've called it). Unfortunately there's no point trying to hold onto the old paints beyond that as you won't be able to get them. Expensive, but worth it in the long run...

Indeed. I'm going to be looking for other suppliers for some of the old colours. Coat D'Arms apparently do Shadow grey, which I use on nearly everything ever. Love me my shadow grey. *strokes pot*

Well, I think I have enough paint to finish my current army plus commissions, then I'll switch to Vallejo. Hopefully they don't discontinue anytime soon.

Although I might still buy washes from GW. Wish they're not so different from the previous washes.

winterdyne wrote:Indeed. I'm going to be looking for other suppliers for some of the old colours. Coat D'Arms apparently do Shadow grey, which I use on nearly everything ever. Love me my shadow grey. *strokes pot*

Vallejo's Sombre Grey is a pretty close match and will be more available than Coat D' Arms.

Thanks Winter, I'll look into that. Got several Vallejo stockists locally.

Did anyone try to compare the new colors with the old ones? Eg. how similar Mechrite Red and Mephiston Red really are?

winterdyne wrote:Thanks Winter, I'll look into that. Got several Vallejo stockists locally.

No worries, it is what I use on my Wolves. I picked it up when I stumbled across a stockist one day and I had heard Vallejo airbrushes a bit easier.



That Wolf Lord is painted with Sombre Grey. Quite a nice colour.

ergotoxin wrote:Did anyone try to compare the new colors with the old ones? Eg. how similar Mechrite Red and Mephiston Red really are?

I ducked into my local store today to give them a whirl, painted up a pretty solid Blood angel. Mechrite Red and Mephiston Red are entirely different, they are not the same. Mephistion red is a much truer red and doesn't have the purpley colouring of Mechrite Red.

Winter wrote:

ergotoxin wrote:Did anyone try to compare the new colors with the old ones? Eg. how similar Mechrite Red and Mephiston Red really are?

I ducked into my local store today to give them a whirl, painted up a pretty solid Blood angel. Mechrite Red and Mephiston Red are entirely different, they are not the same. Mephistion red is a much truer red and doesn't have the purpley colouring of Mechrite Red.

Now that will complicate a lot for my Genesis Chapter. Thanks for a quick answer

ergotoxin wrote:

Winter wrote:

ergotoxin wrote:Did anyone try to compare the new colors with the old ones? Eg. how similar Mechrite Red and Mephiston Red really are?

I ducked into my local store today to give them a whirl, painted up a pretty solid Blood angel. Mechrite Red and Mephiston Red are entirely different, they are not the same. Mephistion red is a much truer red and doesn't have the purpley colouring of Mechrite Red.

Now that will complicate a lot for my Genesis Chapter. Thanks for a quick answer

No worries, I suggest stocking up now if you want a particular colour. The big thing about this new range, is that it is entirely new, all new formulations and everything, so the colours will be similar but not the same and can't be the same due to legal issues with who owns the paint. So like i said if you want a colour, buy a heap now.

Winter wrote:

The big thing about this new range, is that it is entirely new, all new formulations and everything, so the colours will be similar but not the same and can't be the same due to legal issues with who owns the paint. So like i said if you want a colour, buy a heap now.

I was just going to ask if that was the case, bound to be slight differences then. Probably similar to old citadel vs vallejo game colour id imagine?

Assuming they haven't messed the paints up (unlikely), this range seems like a big leap forward to me.

Tryed a few out in the local GW store today, as they had a small selection for demo usage.

They're alright, base white (ceramite white) is great! actually looks white with a single coat!
The washes are now called shades, theyre very similar, although seem to resist pooling up in places to an extent.
Theres also glazes, which are like washes but for intensifying colour instead of shading it.
The Dry paints are for drybrushing, and are incredibly thick. The idea is that it becomes easier to get a consistent amount on your bush to repeat the effect consistently.
Selection of colours and shades is impressive, some old fav's making come backs, and existing colours cover better.

Its not really world changing,seems more like its to help beginners do the things that experienced painters already did. For the veterans, the sheer range of tones is surely welcome but I wouldnt rush out and replace all your old paints.

Edit;
While I was in the store I tryed the texture paints on the base of one of my clanrats. 'Armageddon Dust' can be seen in my P&M blog 'Tale of Many Gamers - Skaven'
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/436543.page#4031253
Can't say that Im hugely impressed...But it does apply a lot quicker than pva glueing some sand on and then painting it after. Could probably make you're own colour quite easily mixing sand, glue and colour together I guess.

Copied from the Rumor Thread:


That said, I just got back from GW and Ceramite White is THE ONLY white paint you will ever need. It covers insanely well. As does Macragge Blue.

Keep in mind that I am in no way a fanboy of GW, hate their business practices, but this they seem to have right.

I tried the Waywatcher Green glaze, it's interesting. I can only see it working on a white base coat.

The texture paints don't seem worthwhile as you will need quite a few pots to base an army, which can be done cheaper through traditional means(albeit the texture paints may save you time, which may be more important to you).

Sadly it was lunch time as I showed up so I have to go back to finish my marine and see how the other paints stack up.

Mephiston Red is about 19 times better than Blood Red. It has amazing coverage. It's much brighter than Mechrite so I don't compare the two, haven't tried Khorne Red which is more Mechrite colored.

The bases cover just as well as foundations, at least the 2 I used did: Ceramite White and Macragge Blue. Both had excellent coverage.

Carroburg Crimson is an amazing wash "shade". It's like a red Devlan Mud. Nothing like the old Red wash.

Glazes were very bright and pool into recesses more than shades do.

Texture DOES have actual sand in it. I can see the appeal there for those in a rush to complete models, but I'm not that crowd.

Dry's are meh, but then I don't drybrush as I said before.

The only metal they had in store was the Leadbelcher(Boltgun Metal). Seemed about the same as before if a little darker of a shade. Pigment was just as fine as before, so hopefully good things there in metallics.

I used them earlier today to paint up a Dark Angel for my store, and well the colours are bang on the same as before with new names... such as Caliban Green is Dark angel Green, Moot Green is Scorpion and so on, they just added new shades to already existing colours and changed the names for a newer feel... the pots are better too more stable and easier to keep open.... other than that not a lot has changed, i mean the glaze is nice and the textures are good but the layers and bases and shades are pretty much foundation normal and washes again....simple

Wolf.

I hope that some of these new paints are the same a Khemri brown and Liche purple, or should I stock up?

I didnt get to see a purple today, but looking at the leaflet we all got bombarded with;
'xereus purple' looks close to liche purple.
and 'Zandri Dust' looks close to khemri brown (maybe a tad lighter)

I'm really aching for someone to do a review on "Athonian Camoshade". It looks like something I cooked up for my Emplaced Tarantula Sentry.

Its basically military olive green....

I ordered the Ceramite White, Mephiston Red, Carroburg Crimson, Averland Sunset, Brass Scorpion, and Sycorax Bronze. I've already reviewd the first three, I'll add in the last three as soon as I get them.

To me, you can tell the quality of almost an entire paint line based off of: white, red, yellow, gold and silver.

I've already tried Leadbelcher which is the same quality as the old Boltgun just a little darker. This leads me to believe(although not yet tested) that Ironbreaker and Runefang Silver will be of good quality as their predecessors were.

I may pick up the gold when I get the others in, I just didn't order it as I have about 9 shades of gold/brass/bronze already and it wasn't an immediate need.

That all said, my first impressions of the new formula is quite good. The labeling means nothing to me as I already know how to decide what is a base and highlight and how to shade, but I see how useful that can be for someone who is new to painting or perhaps hasn't done much research into color theory and all that.

I think I'll end up buying more of these new GW paints than Vallejo's in the near future, with certain exceptions like the VMA line. Now I just need for my dropper bottles to not be back ordered!

LunaHound wrote:Its basically military olive green....

But its a shade - wash type paint

XmarvX40k wrote:

LunaHound wrote:Its basically military olive green....

But its a shade - wash type paint

To be fair, the new Shades are MUCH thicker than the washes were.