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As the title implies, all the Loyalist Space marine chapters have a Free-For-All, throwing everything into the fray

Assume that there is a battlefield large enough to hold all the combatants, Also note that the chapters may not make use of allies (Homeworld PDF's, The Inquisition and such like)

Sorry if I missed someone out

Ultramarines. Why? Because if Ward got his hands on this, it would be so. Possibly GK.

If I wanted to pick who I thought would win without bias, I'm leaning towards DA, simplay because I can just imagine them taking down a few Ravenwing Bikers, then a mass of Terminators come down when they finally reach the others and then they would go "Oh Shi-" As 100 Terminators blast them apart and implode their skulls.

This is silly. There are only 4 possible results, the Space Wolves, Black Templar, Grey Knights, and the Ultramarines

Everyone else wouldnt stand a chance in hell and the Ultramarines would only have a chance because everyone, even the Emperor regrets that he is not an Ultarmarine.


Im going to say that Black Templar. They are incredibly skilled, better then the individual marine, good with tactics and strategy, and have massive numbers supporting them.

If they were allowed to use more than just thier marines (AKA thier personal empire) the Ultramarines would win because the realm of Ultramar is large and powerful.

But since they cant use their allies the slot of Codex Chapters gets my vote. There are well over 1000 Space marine chapters out there

I like the odds of 991:9 as being one of the chapters to live through the fight.

The Grey knights would win, as they have all the ultr-mega-doom weapons, and have nearly enough terminator armour for the entire chapter. Also monkeys.

I voted raven guard because they will probably survive the initial attack, then make lots of guerrilla hit-and-run attacks on them after the enemy's numbers dwindle.
If it were a straight up attack, I reckon grey knights- better training, weapons, armour, and skill will ultimately prevail.

Ultramarines would win. If it is truly all space marine chapters fighting there gene seed would outnumber the rest significantly. I would imagine all of the ultramarine successive chapters would agree to form a temporary alliance against the others until none of them remain before turning on each other.

White Scars. They would strike from behind and kill the other Chapter's leaders.

Ultramarines would have the true numerical advantage (Their successors chapters are very loyal)
Then Space Wolves(Est. 1,200-2000)
Then Black Templars (Est. 6000 but so spread out it makes little difference)
The Imperial Fists and Dark Angels would have an advantage in Naval engagements due to the Phalanx and the Rock respectively...
Ultramarines would probably win.

Black Templars. If it is a free for all with no alliances then their numbers would tell. Also, Grimaldus probably wouldn't feel like dying.

rockerbikie wrote:White Scars. They would strike from behind and kill the other Chapter's leaders.

Not all of them- I'd wager the Grey Knights would have some weird stuff at there disposal to predict and/or stop their assassination, while I doubt they'd manage to sneak up on or suprise a raven guard.

shrike wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:White Scars. They would strike from behind and kill the other Chapter's leaders.

Not all of them- I'd wager the Grey Knights would have some weird stuff at there disposal to predict and/or stop their assassination, while I doubt they'd manage to sneak up on or suprise a raven guard.

And Ravenwing are far better bikers... (Yes, I'm biased!)

shrike wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:White Scars. They would strike from behind and kill the other Chapter's leaders.

Not all of them- I'd wager the Grey Knights would have some weird stuff at there disposal to predict and/or stop their assassination, while I doubt they'd manage to sneak up on or suprise a raven guard.

Grey Knights would get shredded by bike fire.
Grey Knight: No-one will attack us. We are perfectly safe from all other marines in this building.
*hears fire*
Grey Knight: Wait a minute... Oh frak.... They are coming from behind... *gets destroyed by a melta*
They wouldn't sneak up on the Raven Guard, they would speed up from behind and destroy them that way.They would outflank them.




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BlapBlapBlap wrote:

shrike wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:White Scars. They would strike from behind and kill the other Chapter's leaders.

Not all of them- I'd wager the Grey Knights would have some weird stuff at there disposal to predict and/or stop their assassination, while I doubt they'd manage to sneak up on or suprise a raven guard.

And Ravenwing are far better bikers... (Yes, I'm biased!)

Ravenwing can't outflank.

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

shrike wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:White Scars. They would strike from behind and kill the other Chapter's leaders.

Not all of them- I'd wager the Grey Knights would have some weird stuff at there disposal to predict and/or stop their assassination, while I doubt they'd manage to sneak up on or suprise a raven guard.

And Ravenwing are far better bikers... (Yes, I'm biased!)

Ravenwing can't outflank.

I'd narrow it down to Black Templar, Space Wolves and Ultramarines, since these three have the largest numbers.

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BlapBlapBlap wrote:

shrike wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:White Scars. They would strike from behind and kill the other Chapter's leaders.

Not all of them- I'd wager the Grey Knights would have some weird stuff at there disposal to predict and/or stop their assassination, while I doubt they'd manage to sneak up on or suprise a raven guard.

And Ravenwing are far better bikers... (Yes, I'm biased!)

Ravenwing can't outflank.

Ummm.. Yes they can, they have scouts automatically, which gives them outflank. No need for your Mongolian crazy man

rockerbikie wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

shrike wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:White Scars. They would strike from behind and kill the other Chapter's leaders.

Not all of them- I'd wager the Grey Knights would have some weird stuff at there disposal to predict and/or stop their assassination, while I doubt they'd manage to sneak up on or suprise a raven guard.

And Ravenwing are far better bikers... (Yes, I'm biased!)

Ravenwing can't outflank.

Ummm.. Yes they can, they have scouts automatically, which gives them outflank. No need for your Mongolian crazy man

Kor'sarro killed a Daemon Prince and many other people who have challenged the Imperium of Man. Also, I doubt a company could take on a Chapter of bikes. They also use Power Lances which are deadly.

rockerbikie wrote:

shrike wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:White Scars. They would strike from behind and kill the other Chapter's leaders.

Not all of them- I'd wager the Grey Knights would have some weird stuff at there disposal to predict and/or stop their assassination, while I doubt they'd manage to sneak up on or suprise a raven guard.

Grey Knights would get shredded by bike fire.
Grey Knight: No-one will attack us. We are perfectly safe from all other marines in this building.
*hears fire*
Grey Knight: Wait a minute... Oh frak.... They are coming from behind... *gets destroyed by a melta*
They wouldn't sneak up on the Raven Guard, they would speed up from behind and destroy them that way.They would outflank them.

So the grey knights wouldn't think to protect the back of the building? Okay...

and you can't really hope to outmaneuver or rush raven guard, they are just as fast with jump packs, and pride themselves on being fast and adaptable.

shrike wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:

shrike wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:White Scars. They would strike from behind and kill the other Chapter's leaders.

Not all of them- I'd wager the Grey Knights would have some weird stuff at there disposal to predict and/or stop their assassination, while I doubt they'd manage to sneak up on or suprise a raven guard.

Grey Knights would get shredded by bike fire.
Grey Knight: No-one will attack us. We are perfectly safe from all other marines in this building.
*hears fire*
Grey Knight: Wait a minute... Oh frak.... They are coming from behind... *gets destroyed by a melta*
They wouldn't sneak up on the Raven Guard, they would speed up from behind and destroy them that way.They would outflank them.

So the grey knights wouldn't think to protect the back of the building? Okay...

and you can't really hope to outmaneuver or rush raven guard, they are just as fast with jump packs, and pride themselves on being fast and adaptable.

Adaptable: Describes almost EVERY Marine chapter.

Fast - Doesn't help against other fast armies, such as BA, or bikers.

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

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shrike wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:

shrike wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:White Scars. They would strike from behind and kill the other Chapter's leaders.

Not all of them- I'd wager the Grey Knights would have some weird stuff at there disposal to predict and/or stop their assassination, while I doubt they'd manage to sneak up on or suprise a raven guard.

Grey Knights would get shredded by bike fire.
Grey Knight: No-one will attack us. We are perfectly safe from all other marines in this building.
*hears fire*
Grey Knight: Wait a minute... Oh frak.... They are coming from behind... *gets destroyed by a melta*
They wouldn't sneak up on the Raven Guard, they would speed up from behind and destroy them that way.They would outflank them.

So the grey knights wouldn't think to protect the back of the building? Okay...

and you can't really hope to outmaneuver or rush raven guard, they are just as fast with jump packs, and pride themselves on being fast and adaptable.

Adaptable: Describes almost EVERY Marine chapter.

Fast - Doesn't help against other fast armies, such as BA, or bikers.

Okay, MORE adaptable than most other chapters, and I'm not saying they're fast and so instantly will win in a fight against white scars, but white scar's fast-moving tactic won't work against an army which is just as fast, they'll mostly just cancel each other out.

Templars. More naval power than anyone else means the ground battle doesn't matter. They're also specialists in fleet warfare (as evideny by the fact that they were the ones chosen to lead the defense of Armageddon during the Third War).

If a Marines chapter FFA would be possible, they wouldnt be the chapters we know, so we would even know their strength.

The answer is thus: Nobody knows.

Dark Scipio wrote:If a Marines chapter FFA would be possible, they wouldnt be the chapters we know, so we would even know their strength.

The answer is thus: Nobody knows.

Because it's all fictional? Honestly, that doesn't develop the thread very much.

purifier spam would steam roll over everything and still have 50%+ of their number left at the end.

Wolves.

Why? They've done this sort of thing before. In fact, they're arguably designed for this sort of thing.

Black Templars have numbers and decent tech. However, much of their numbers come from Neonates. Grey Knights have ALL their number in at least power armor and the best tech the Imperium can offer.

Ultramarines are great at tactics and have the same number as Grey Knights (1000), but each Knight is outright better than each Ultramarine in almost every way.

Space Wolves are made to kill other Marine chapters, and arguably they bested the Thousand Sons, a chapter really comparable to Grey Knights. But the Tousand Sons rely purely on psychics whereas the Grey Knights have both Psykers and the Tech.

Dark Angels and Blood Angels would be shut down by Grey Knights superior tech and psychic dominance.

Grey Knights would best all the other chapters simply because they're made to be better than all of them. If anything, the other 'only-elite' Marine group, the Deathwatch stand a chance. Deathwatch may have an amalgam-tech and experience to match Grey Knights, but not the Psychic dominance nor the numbers.

Grey Knights. Everyone has a much better gun and CC weapon than other marines, most of them can teleport, thet are all psykers and most of their Chapter wear TDA. Plus Crowe Spam and Draigo.




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Actually, the Minotaurs would be good. A chapter made by the Inquisition to beat other marines.

I voted Templars for the clear numerical advantage standard modern dogma states that as a rule, the attacker needs to outnumber the enemy 3:1 if on a similar technological level. (That and the Holy Hand Grenade...)

The Crusader wrote:I voted Templars for the clear numerical advantage standard modern dogma states that as a rule, the attacker needs to outnumber the enemy 3:1 if on a similar technological level. (That and the Holy Hand Grenade...)

Yeah but as a decentralized chapter that is spread out far and wide they would find it hard to focus their numbers on a single point without attacking piecemeal or having to regroup on the run...
I don't see BT doing the second one for that long...

Hence why I said we'll assume they're fighting on a field large enough to hold ALL combatants