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Plenty of guys will be hitting the weight room this summer before heading to the beach, but new research suggests that when it comes to winning over women, big muscles aren't always necessary. A new analysis by researchers at the University of Tennessee-Knoxville suggests that long ago, women started turning down strong, confident Alpha males in favor of Beta men who were more devoted. Here, a concise guide to the study:
Looking at it now from the view of a parent, I see things have not changed.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
That's bollocks Most of my friends who're "nice" to girls are cheated on them. Women might want to be with nice girls for the stability, but they sure as hell don't respect them.
Ever thought 40k would be a lot better with bears?
Codex: Bears.
NOW WITH MR BIGGLES AND HIS AMAZING FLYING CONTRAPTION
I am an alpha male, a square jawed rugged hunk with biceps like bags of smashed gravel and cheek bones you could hang your jacket off, and women throw themselves at me to the point that its becoming tiresome.
I dont see them pushing me out of the way to get to the dweeb with the hair lip who looks like he drinks under the dart board but seems like he would be devoted.
Seriously though, humans are shallow. Sure women aren't stupid, so obviously they will overlook relatively bad looks for money or status (I say relitvely obviously, because if you really do look like Rocky Dennis but Im sorry your fethed no matter how nice a guy you are) they want the best provider for them and their offspring. And women are famously more forgiving about looks than men are.. especially when they fall in "love"
But at the same time, your always going to be better at getting girls/boys if your a sexy bastard. And that's just the way our poorly evolved brains work!
Seriously.. who wants to lie next to someone that is truly repulsive? Its not a sin to embrace your ape forebears and say "I have to find my partner attractive"
I am extremely shallow.. I dont see why its such a bad thing.
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We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
Humans aren't pack animals, so the alpha/beta comparison doesn't stand up very well. A "beta" in one context could be an "alpha" in another. In any case, timidity is not attractive, and that tends to be the hump that most geeks can't get over (assuming they've mastered the basics of hygiene and basic conversation).
mattyrm wrote: I dont believe this beta male gak..
I am an alpha male, a square jawed rugged hunk with biceps like bags of smashed gravel and cheek bones you could hang your jacket off, and women throw themselves at me to the point that its becoming tiresome.
I dont see them pushing me out of the way to get to the dweeb with the hair lip who looks like he drinks under the dart board but seems like he would be devoted.
Seriously though, humans are shallow. Sure women aren't stupid, so obviously they will overlook relatively bad looks for money or status (I say relitvely obviously, because if you really do look like Rocky Dennis but Im sorry your fethed no matter how nice a guy you are) they want the best provider for them and their offspring. And women are famously more forgiving about looks than men are.. especially when they fall in "love"
But at the same time, your always going to be better at getting girls/boys if your a sexy bastard. And that's just the way our poorly evolved brains work!
Seriously.. who wants to lie next to someone that is truly repulsive? Its not a sin to embrace your ape forebears and say "I have to find my partner attractive"
I am extremely shallow.. I dont see why its such a bad thing.
Matty, you silly goose! Nerds don't sit under the dart board! We'd get skewered by people like you!
Every Normal Man Must Be Tempted At Times To Spit On His Hands, Hoist That Black Flag, And Begin Slitting Throats.
PhantomViper wrote:Keep telling yourself that, someday you might actually come to believe it!
I suppose you'd first have to explain what's wrong with it.
If you're out for a good time and just want to have fun, go ahead and act like a total fether and you'll get lots of tail. It works.
if you want to have a lasting relationship and settle down, act like a responsible human being.
This man speaks the truth.
But you have to remember that 'acting like a douche' isn't a long term thing. It's not about cheating on women or being over-bearing or aggressive or anything like that. It works on the presupposition that there won't be time to act like that because your entire relationship with that person, from meeting them at the club to sneaking out of their apartment the next morning, will be less than 12 hours long.
So don't go around your everyday life acting like an arsehole and wondering why women aren't throwing themselves at you.
"Did you ever notice how in the Bible, when ever God needed to punish someone, or make an example, or whenever God needed a killing, he sent an angel? Did you ever wonder what a creature like that must be like? A whole existence spent praising your God, but always with one wing dipped in blood. Would you ever really want to see an angel?"
PhantomViper wrote:Keep telling yourself that, someday you might actually come to believe it!
I suppose you'd first have to explain what's wrong with it.
If you're out for a good time and just want to have fun, go ahead and act like a total fether and you'll get lots of tail. It works.
if you want to have a lasting relationship and settle down, act like a responsible human being.
That has absolutely nothing nothing to do with Alpha or Beta male behaviour.
Women of all ages will be more attracted to successful males, be that financial or successful in sports or whatever, they will also be more attracted to males that display high leadership and are more sociable (and usually display a prominent role in their social circle). That is part of what is considered to be an Alpha male pattern and women are attracted to them because they are more likely to provide them with the conditions to raise successful offspring, its all instinctual and biological.
Beta males are usually socially awkward and less successful both financially and physically, followers instead of leaders, even if they may be more intelligent than their alpha male counterparts. Women may settle for them but they certainly aren't their first choice.
PhantomViper wrote:Keep telling yourself that, someday you might actually come to believe it!
I suppose you'd first have to explain what's wrong with it.
If you're out for a good time and just want to have fun, go ahead and act like a total fether and you'll get lots of tail. It works.
if you want to have a lasting relationship and settle down, act like a responsible human being.
That has absolutely nothing nothing to do with Alpha or Beta male behaviour.
Women of all ages will be more attracted to successful males, be that financial or successful in sports or whatever, they will also be more attracted to males that display high leadership and are more sociable (and usually display a prominent role in their social circle). That is part of what is considered to be an Alpha male pattern and women are attracted to them because they are more likely to provide them with the conditions to raise successful offspring, its all instinctual and biological.
Beta males are usually socially awkward and less successful both financially and physically, followers instead of leaders, even if they may be more intelligent than their alpha male counterparts. Women may settle for them but they certainly aren't their first choice.
If by beta males you mean geeks then you are way off on being less financially successful than an "alpha" male type person. Here's a nice example. From this
to this
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
PhantomViper wrote:Keep telling yourself that, someday you might actually come to believe it!
I suppose you'd first have to explain what's wrong with it.
If you're out for a good time and just want to have fun, go ahead and act like a total fether and you'll get lots of tail. It works.
if you want to have a lasting relationship and settle down, act like a responsible human being.
That has absolutely nothing nothing to do with Alpha or Beta male behaviour.
Women of all ages will be more attracted to successful males, be that financial or successful in sports or whatever, they will also be more attracted to males that display high leadership and are more sociable (and usually display a prominent role in their social circle). That is part of what is considered to be an Alpha male pattern and women are attracted to them because they are more likely to provide them with the conditions to raise successful offspring, its all instinctual and biological.
Beta males are usually socially awkward and less successful both financially and physically, followers instead of leaders, even if they may be more intelligent than their alpha male counterparts. Women may settle for them but they certainly aren't their first choice.
If by beta males you mean geeks then you are way off on being less financially successful than an "alpha" male type person.
Here's a nice example. From this
to this
Yes, and Bill Gates has always been known for his incredibly hot wife!
I also said "usually", there are always the exceptions that prove the rule.
treadhead1944 wrote:This is really what they mean.
1)Yu-Gi-Oh is not nerdy.
2)There are girls who like nerds. I know some nerdy girls who practically cream themselves if they hear me talking about programming or criticising a piece of art in a critical and objective way.
3)Nerd and "alpha male" are not incompatable. I take pride in coding in HTML/CSS, and being the biggest bastard in the room.
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Ever thought 40k would be a lot better with bears?
Codex: Bears.
NOW WITH MR BIGGLES AND HIS AMAZING FLYING CONTRAPTION
treadhead1944 wrote:This is really what they mean.
1)Yu-Gi-Oh is not nerdy.
2)There are girls who like nerds. I know some nerdy girls who practically cream themselves if they hear me talking about programming or criticising a piece of art in a critical and objective way.
3)Nerd and "alpha male" are not incompatable. I take pride in coding in HTML/CSS, and being the biggest bastard in the room.
1) No one cares what Yu-Gi-Oh is. Suffice to know it's the ontological contrary to everything that makes women go nuts.
2) Ugly women, or mental women. But its fine ; I like mental. I really really like mental 3) Being the biggest in the room is in no way an appropriate way of telling off who is and isn't alpha. (if such a thing isn't pointless from the start)
[...] for conflict is the great teacher, and pain, the perfect educator.
I asked our lass is she thought Yu-Gi-Oh was nerdy.. after I explained what is was because she had no fething idea, she said that Yu-gi-oh makes Warhammer look like BASE jumping.
We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
Kovnik Obama wrote:
2) Ugly women, or mental women. But its fine ; I like mental. I really really like mental
Cheers for calling several adorable and sweet girls I know "ugly" or "mental".
Kovnik Obama wrote:
3) Being the biggest in the room is in no way an appropriate way of telling off who is and isn't alpha. (if such a thing isn't pointless from the start)
Yes it is.
I want something ->I'm bigger than you ->it's mine.
mattyrm wrote:
Joey wrote:
1)Yu-Gi-Oh is not nerdy.
I asked our lass is she thought Yu-Gi-Oh was nerdy.. after I explained what is was because she had no fething idea, she said that Yu-gi-oh makes Warhammer look like BASE jumping.
Just because something is lame, doesn't mean it's nerdy. Comic books are lame but they're not nerdy.
Nerdy is an outlook on life. The ability to take a chunk of the abstract, random world we live in, and turn it into quantifiable data and objects.
"nerdiness" is essentially an extension of the survival instinct to see patterns in nature, it's not just a party trick.
Ever thought 40k would be a lot better with bears?
Codex: Bears.
NOW WITH MR BIGGLES AND HIS AMAZING FLYING CONTRAPTION
Kovnik Obama wrote:2) Ugly women, or mental women. But its fine ; I like mental. I really really like mental
Mental women are OK when you're young. Because the crazy ones also tend to be crazy in the sack.
Hopefully you grow out of this phase before one of them tries to stab you in your sleep. Hypothetically.
Not so hypothetically actually...
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Yes it is. I want something ->I'm bigger than you ->it's mine.
Not necessarily. Being the biggest loser just means you're the biggest loser.
On the flip side, once you get past your mid twenties a lot of this crap seems to fall away.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
if it takes articles like the one above to make you feel better about your chances of finding a partner...I dare say you have bigger problems than being "nerdy"
Hey, I just met you,
and this is crazy,
but I'm a demon,
possess you, maybe?
a) providing for her children ( --> marry a nice guy)
b) giving good genes to her children ( --> boink an alpha)
They're not particularly hung up on it being the same man. If you're a nice guy and can't believe how lucky you are to have found a partner... parental testing is your friend.
The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins.
Kovnik Obama wrote:
2) Ugly women, or mental women. But its fine ; I like mental. I really really like mental
Cheers for calling several adorable and sweet girls I know "ugly" or "mental".
Kovnik Obama wrote:
3) Being the biggest in the room is in no way an appropriate way of telling off who is and isn't alpha. (if such a thing isn't pointless from the start)
Yes it is.
I want something ->I'm bigger than you ->it's mine.
mattyrm wrote:
Joey wrote:
1)Yu-Gi-Oh is not nerdy.
I asked our lass is she thought Yu-Gi-Oh was nerdy.. after I explained what is was because she had no fething idea, she said that Yu-gi-oh makes Warhammer look like BASE jumping.
Just because something is lame, doesn't mean it's nerdy. Comic books are lame but they're not nerdy.
Nerdy is an outlook on life. The ability to take a chunk of the abstract, random world we live in, and turn it into quantifiable data and objects.
"nerdiness" is essentially an extension of the survival instinct to see patterns in nature, it's not just a party trick.
You live in a really interesting parallel universe Joey