Kansas pastor calls on U.S. government to kill LGBT people

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**MrDwhitey**

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/05/30/kansas-pastor-calls-on-u-s-government-to-kill-lgbt-people/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31/curtis-knapp-kansas-pastor-death-of-gays-defense-cnn_n_1559293.html

The pastor of New Hope Baptist Church in Seneca, Kansas says President Barack Obama has gone too far in supporting same sex marriage and it’s time for the U.S. government to begin killing gay men and lesbians.

“Terrorists are dangerous, the economy is a real and present danger,” Pastor Curtis Knapp told his congregation on Sunday. “But there is simply nothing other than the holocaust of the unborn which imperils the safety of our country or places our people in jeopardy as does the leader of the Western world publicly raising his fist at the heavens and declaring that the bedrock institution of society, ordained of God and meant to be protected by the state, is little more than a convention of convenience with the children of Sodom to transform the meaning of something, which is precious to Jesus Christ, and a living picture of his love for the church into a legally protected justification for perversion and a vehicle of hatred aimed directly at that love.”

Knapp went on to read from Leviticus 20: “If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death.”

“They should be put to death,” Knapp declared. “‘Oh, so you’re saying we should go out and start killing them, no?’ — I’m saying the government should. They won’t, but they should.”

“You say, ‘Oh, I can’t believe you, you’re horrible. You’re a backwards neanderthal of a person.’ Is that what you’re calling scripture? Is God a neanderthal, backwards in his morality? Is it His word or not? If it’s His word, he commanded it. It’s His idea, not mine. And I’m not ashamed of it.”

“He said put them to death,” he continued. “Shall the church drag them in? No, I’m not say that. The church has not been given the power of the sort; the government has. But the government ought to [kill them]. You got a better idea? A better idea than God?”

Listen to Knapp’s entire 1-hour sermon on “The Curse of Homosexuality” here.

Calls to the New Hope Baptist Church were not returned by the time of publication.

Listen to this audio of Pastor Curtis Knapp via Good As You, recorded May 26, 2012.

Very nice!

**AustonT**

/quotes Levidicus
/Claims to be Christian

Look another one.

**purplefood**

Is it not Leviticus?
Either way he's a tool...

**Kilkrazy**

The Bible is full of ideas.

People pick the ones that fit their preference.

**rockerbikie**

Lovely. This person makes me upset that he calls himself conservative. I wonder if he will go on a shooting rampage if the gay marriage act is passed. I think the economy is more important than same sex marriage but this is too far. He should be killed for being a moron.

**Ribon Fox**

So me and my kind have to die so that him and is ilk can live in a world of fear, I think not. And just a month before the Stonewall riots anniversary. Could be doing it just to gain some puplic light or just becouse he is a tool. Either way the LGBT community wont stand for it.

**Frazzled**

-God.

**AustonT**

purplefood wrote:Is it not Leviticus?
Either way he's a tool...

Yeah spellig fail.

Ribon Fox wrote:So me and my kind have to die so that him and is ilk can live in a world of fear, I think not. And just a month before the Stonewall riots anniversary. Could be doing it just to gain some puplic light or just becouse he is a tool. Either way the LGBT community wont stand for it.

No you tell those pricks to turn the other cheek. I could go fishing for my pro gay bible quotes but I'm in the car. Suffice to say a religion of unbounded love and tolerance does not discriminate based on sexuality.

**streamdragon**

So... bets on how long till we have another "doing blow off a male prostitute's dong" story?

**Ribon Fox**

AustonT wrote:
purplefood wrote:Is it not Leviticus?
Either way he's a tool...

Yeah spellig fail.

Ribon Fox wrote:So me and my kind have to die so that him and is ilk can live in a world of fear, I think not. And just a month before the Stonewall riots anniversary. Could be doing it just to gain some puplic light or just becouse he is a tool. Either way the LGBT community wont stand for it.

No you tell those pricks to turn the other cheek. I could go fishing for my pro gay bible quotes but I'm in the car. Suffice to say a religion of unbounded love and tolerance does not discriminate based on sexuality.

Ordenarly sure I would agree with you, but no, not this time.
40 years on from the battle of Stonewall and homophopic pricks like that are still spredding hate due to badly trasnslated book.
The phrase "never again" should be shouted at him.

**SilverMK2**

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone I guess...

**Melissia**

AustonT wrote:
Ribon Fox wrote:So me and my kind have to die so that him and is ilk can live in a world of fear, I think not. And just a month before the Stonewall riots anniversary. Could be doing it just to gain some puplic light or just becouse he is a tool. Either way the LGBT community wont stand for it.
No you tell those pricks to turn the other cheek. I could go fishing for my pro gay bible quotes but I'm in the car. Suffice to say a religion of unbounded love and tolerance does not discriminate based on sexuality.

Those who love god and who love their neighbor will get in to heaven, for those are the two greatest commandments, all other rules and laws of Christianity are predicated on those-- to use any of the lesser laws of the religion to violate these two is thus to act against the Word of God and the gospel of Jesus Christ.

At any rate, this kind of person has existed for a while now, including pastors. It's only a pity that they're getting national attention...

**AustonT**

I'm going to have to find out what that is.

**rockerbikie**

Ribon Fox wrote:
AustonT wrote:
purplefood wrote:Is it not Leviticus?
Either way he's a tool...

Yeah spellig fail.

Ribon Fox wrote:So me and my kind have to die so that him and is ilk can live in a world of fear, I think not. And just a month before the Stonewall riots anniversary. Could be doing it just to gain some puplic light or just becouse he is a tool. Either way the LGBT community wont stand for it.

No you tell those pricks to turn the other cheek. I could go fishing for my pro gay bible quotes but I'm in the car. Suffice to say a religion of unbounded love and tolerance does not discriminate based on sexuality.

Ordenarly sure I would agree with you, but no, not this time.
40 years on from the battle of Stonewall and homophopic pricks like that are still spredding hate due to badly trasnslated book.
The phrase "never again" should be shouted at him.

It depends on which edition of the book you read. Each bible is a different translation, at High School(Australian one different system) we found a bible which condems gays but not lesbians. Most of the bible's passages are irrelevant today.

**Chowderhead**

At first I thought it was the Onion, but then I looked and was sad instantly.

I'm fine with rounding them all up and throwing them into a forced labor camp, but killing them? That seems a bit far-fetched. Why would you waste such an excellent and stylish workforce?

OBVIOUS SARCASM

**Howard A Treesong**

Oh right, this is a new one. Last week a different pastor was advocating concentration camps for homosexuals.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-pastor-wants-to-put-gays-lesbians-behind-electrified-fence-20120522,0,5822694.story

**CT GAMER**

Ribon Fox wrote:So me and my kind have to die so that him and is ilk can live in a world of fear.

Not if you shoot first...

Sort of like the old west but with more assless chaps and sequins...

**Melissia**

AustonT wrote:I'm going to have to find out what that is.

What what is? My statement? It's from Matthew, probably the best book in the new testament.

Matthew 22:34-40 wrote:Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

**Tye_Informer**

When I saw the title, I knew exactly which church and which guy they were talking about. I don't even need to read the articles anymore. This guy is either insane or just starved for attention. He pulls some crazy stunt like this 4 or 5 times a year.

The only way to get this guy to go away is to ignore him, unfortunately "we" do not have the ability. I think it would just take twice.

Imagine this:
- He pulls some outrageous stunt.
- News crews arrive and start reporting on the weather, interview him and his people and ask them all about the weather.
- Edit coverage to simply be a weather report with a single picture of the youngest member of the group that looks "normal".
- He will go nuts and start screaming at the world
- He will pull another outrageous stunt.
- News crews don't even show up.
- He self-destructs
- Problem solved.

**Frazzled**

Melissia wrote:
AustonT wrote:I'm going to have to find out what that is.
What what is? My statement? It's from Matthew, probably the best book in the new testament.

Matthew 22:34-40 wrote:Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Yep.

**Private_Joker**

People like this still exist? Sigh....

*Climbs back into freezer*

Thaw me out when the Nazis start riding dinosaurs.

**Chowderhead**

Private_Joker wrote:People like this still exist? Sigh....

*Climbs back into freezer*

Thaw me out when the Nazis start riding dinosaurs.

Oh dear, I think you missed that one.

Sorry.

**MrDwhitey**

Chowderhead wrote:At first I thought it was the Onion, but then I looked and was sad instantly.

I'm fine with rounding them all up and throwing them into a forced labor camp, but killing them? That seems a bit far-fetched. Why would you waste such an excellent and stylish workforce?

OBVIOUS SARCASM

I agree, make them work!

**sarpedons-right-hand**

Tis a sad world indeed when total tools like that get listened too....

But lest I get drawn into an argument about religion and Catholic Priests who enjoy the company of young boys, I'll sign off....

Peace.

**Grakmar**

I'm fairly impressed, Off-Topicers. We're almost a page in and this hasn't devolved into an argument over religion.

This person is absolutely evil and his views are hateful. And, that's something Christians, Atheists, Jews, Buddhists, and everyone else can all come together and agree on.

**mattyrm**

Funny, I was a non-church going, disinterested but happy to be called Christian until I was about 23, then an athiest until I was about 28, and now Im 32, im an utterly disinterested anti-theist who kinda doesnt really give a feth anymore.

These stories used to annoy me when I was a young fiery chap, now they don't even interest me anymore. I mean, this gak happens every day.

People are stupid, they listen too much to ancient desert scribblings and not enough to their brains, nothing to see here folks move along.

**CT GAMER**

Grakmar wrote:I'm fairly impressed, Off-Topicers. We're almost a page in and this hasn't devolved into an argument over religion.

It isn't just infamous nutjobs like this guy who say stuff like this. I hear some version of this a couple of times a year from people in my own town and/or travels or on forums,etc. and an array of less homicidal homophobic idiocy crops up regularly everywhere the discussion on gay issues take place.

Some people are just smarter about knowing when to shut and lay low...

Mixed company produces a different dialogue then when these types think they freely say what they really think.

So it isnt time to hold hands and sing spirituals just quite yet...

**Melissia**

Considering Ron Paul wants to make homosexuality illegal again, it's hardly surprising that there's ones that go to the extreme and want to have it be a death penalty.

**daedalus**

Grakmar wrote:I'm fairly impressed, Off-Topicers. We're almost a page in and this hasn't devolved into an argument over religion.

This person is absolutely evil and his views are hateful. And, that's something Christians, Atheists, Jews, Buddhists, and everyone else can all come together and agree on.

That's because this thread isn't about religion. This thread is about hate. Religion factors into this about as much as the postal system would if it was a mailman who had made these statements.

**biccat**

Grakmar wrote:I'm fairly impressed, Off-Topicers. We're almost a page in and this hasn't devolved into an argument over religion.

Usually a good idea to wait until page 2.