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Dropzone Commander - one of the most anticipated games of 2012 launched on the 8th June, and promises to be a superb game of mass sci-fi battles with dropships, tanks and troops in opposing forces with a great ruleset. You can see the full details of the game and miniatures on the Hawk Wargames website at http://www.hawkwargames.com

All the miniatures are resin cast using state of the art equipment producing models with exceptional detail and as such lend themselves to a wide variety of paint schemes. Certainly when you have terrific miniatures you want the best case system available to carry them in, and so KR was the natural choice due to our “soft foam for miniatures, hard cases for soft foam” philosophy, which ensures full protection for any fragile parts, and very importantly, does not rub the paint off your models.

KR worked closely with Hawk Wargames to ensure that the custom trays designed for each of the 4 factions will carry your army with the best protection possible for transport. The final versions of these trays will be added to the KR site during the next few weeks. As too will the tray sets for various army configurations, including of course the tray sets for the premium army deals which are on offer from Hawk Wargames and include a KR Multicase and trays for that army set up.

Dropzone Commander trays can be purchased individually or in cases bearing the Dropzone Commander logo.

The final trays and sets for each of the factions will be added over the next few weeks, and will be available for pre-orders from the start of July with shipping from 23rd July to coincide with the shipping date of the miniatures themselves from Hawk Wargames.

Whether you need a small force or one of the large army deals, or even their mega deal, there is a case to suit your needs. You can choose from any of the wide range of KR Multicases and match a case to your army size – only the KR modular case and tray system give you this versatility. If your collection grows in the future then the range of larger KR Multicases can carry them all.

http://www.krmulticase.com

KR – soft foam for figures, hard cases for soft foam !

Can you tell us how many slots in each case and of which type are missing after it is filled with an army deal.

It would be helpful to know what else we can order to fit the cases provided.

If that is too much to ask, tell us how many of which tray (and what is on the tray) you provide with the army deals. We can do the rest.

Your website was rather vague on this.

As the army deals were still being finalised shortly before the Hawk Wargames site went live it was not possible to confirm all the final tray designs. Hence the listings on the KR site for trays indicate what the trays will hold, so it will be a week or so before we can confirm each tray contents, and the sets confirmation will follow after that. As soon as we have the info on each army I will post them here.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/453005.page#4349698

We do, this thread will contain all the news and updates regarding the Dropzone Commander trays and cases for their current releases and for futire releases too.

The cases look great, looking forward finding out what's in the final ones for the army deals.

Particularly interested in what space there will be after a Mega army goes in one... thinking of getting the Shaltari mega deal, plus 2 extra of the walkers, and wondering if there'll be spots for them.

It makes sense, since the deal comes with 4 walkers and 2 large drop ships, but the large drop ships can carry 3 walkers apiece... makes sense to add 2 more!

Glad you like the look of them, the tray details will be added to the site in a week or 2.

There will be spare room in there for expansion, though the Mega army will fill most of the standard case.

The modular KR system means that expansion, and for example carrying 2 mega armies in 1 case (eg a Kaiser2 or Backpack) is easy.

Excellent, looking forward to hearing what extra cut-outs there are in the Mega, once you know

Hopefully by/before June 30, since that's the line for preorders to definitely ship on July 16 (and I'd think you'd need to know by then, anyway, to make them in time!).

I think the one tray we have seen could use the space more efficiently.

Flight stands can be double ended into an I-I shape, so you will need two I-I's. Even if you have a policy of never double filling a compartment (and I cant really see why for bases, you could dovetail the smaller dropships up close to each other and fit a lot more holes on that piece.

Methinks you have overvaluing symmetry KR. I am seeing way too much surface light blue on that piece.

RiTides - The tray sets will be finalised in a week or so, it is aimed that there will still be some additoinal space for expansion with the mega army deal. For info the shipping date is the 23rd July, for orders placed prior to the 9th July, those are the dates on the Dropzone website too,

Orlanth - no probs, feel free to drop us a drawing of more efficent usage (sales@krmulticase.co.uk), if it looks like it will work better for sure we will consider it, ;-) The designs as pictured match well to the other 5 trays in the PHR range and the likely vehicle combinations in an army,

Whoops, I meant to say the 23rd. If you can post up what the spaces are in each case once they're finalized next week, that'd be really helpful!

Very simple image of what I suggest. Will also sent to ther email link as requested.

Please give it a go.

Much appreciated, thanks for the info. I can see what you have in mind though it does not quite work out. The tray you suggest would dictate always 1 heavy drop ship with 2 medium with the stands as you have arranged them (not everyone will need that, the final versions offer much more variability for army layouts), and the tray shown in the thread is an example of what will be available for the PHR range. Also, the medium dropship sketch on your layout is narrower than the actual models (the trays are designed using all the actual models from Dropzone Commander) and so cannot go as close as you indicate, plus there are removable sections to accommodate fighters (they are wider).

Reply sent to your email enquiry too.

Fair enough, however the image of the tray we see doesnt ashow us that the medium dropship hole has additional cut outs to fit a fighter.

I still wonder if you can tighten it up a little and get more in. Puting items in on 'obliques' looks wasteful frankly.

In addition one of the advantages of this game is that it uses very resilient models, So they amount of 'clearance' you need to secure the models can be cut a bit. Were they metal or regular rein that would be unwise but with 'rubbery' resin you only really need the trays to contain rather than shield.

However it works out, I am pleased that you listened and had a look-see.

Have you received any specific instruction from Hawk Wargames as to what they want?

Orlanth wrote:In addition one of the advantages of this game is that it uses very resilient models, So they amount of 'clearance' you need to secure the models can be cut a bit. Were they metal or regular rein that would be unwise but with 'rubbery' resin you only really need the trays to contain rather than shield.

A very bold statement to make, when no models have yet been shipped. Only time will tell how Hawk's promises hold up in the real world.

We did a test on the forums, and heard testimonies as to their resilience, including from Hawk Wargames.

The trays and the options they hold will be on the website in a couple of weeks with the compartment usage detailed in the tray descriptions. The 'oblique' orientation on certain compartments maximises what can go in a particular trays, and each tray is alligned with the likely army setups over and above the contents of the starter, large or mega armies - people will want to expand their armies based on the rules once they are released.

The models themselves are made from a resilient resin, but it is also necessary to ensure there is sufficient soft foam to protect the paint finish of the models, something that only the soft foam from KR can provide as the KR system is designed for soft foam in hard cases.

No problem with looking at your suggestions, it is always worth trying out options and incorporating customers thoughts whenever possible as it all helps make the best trays for the army.

I work closely with David at Hawk Wargames to ensure the tray layouts match the ruleset and the army deals (as well as likely expansions as mentioned above), and have used a full set of the final models for designing the compartments and trays.

Again, thanks for keeping us up to speed.

Much appreciated.

PHR trays will be updated on the website tomorrow. The lists of how much will fit in the Starter army case, the Large army case and the Mega army case will be posted too, the other factions will follow shortly too.

If you have a preferred order for them to be done let me know ;-) Otherwise I plan for UCM, then Shaltari then Scourge,

How well does the cardstock case hold up? The foam itself looks like will wonderfully protect the mini's, I'm just curious as to the case itself quickly potentially degrading.

(Note: I'm probably putting a pre-order for a PHR starter with case later this week, was wondering as I often treat my cases rather roughly )

KR wrote:PHR trays will be updated on the website tomorrow. The lists of how much will fit in the Starter army case, the Large army case and the Mega army case will be posted too, the other factions will follow shortly too.

If you have a preferred order for them to be done let me know ;-) Otherwise I plan for UCM, then Shaltari then Scourge,

Correct me if necessary. Allowing for the price charged being the same (£30 each rather than £20 for the starter) the large case and the mega case are the same, yes? Just one has more stock included in the deal.

My preferred order is Shaltari, shaltari, shaltari

No worries on the durability of the card cases, - see these being dropped from moving vans, out of buildings, being sat on and more -

http://www.krmulticase.com/about/casetesting.aspx

Very cool, thanks for the link!

I realize it's been addressed once but if all the flight stands were positioned horizontally instead of at an angle you could get a couple more tanks in that foam.


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Even just flipping the bottom flight stand and straightening it out would add a new tank space next to the others. I don't have photo-manipulation software on this pc, but when I get home I'll show what I mean.

No probs. The trays are designed to hold the maximum possible with 2 natural constraints - the need to be able to manufacture them, and the likely army lists. I worked closely with David on the layouts based on the army lists - not much benefit in having space for 2 more tanks for example if you would never use them, far better to get the tray set arrangements flexible to support all the variations within the faction. Lists of trays and what they hold for PHR will follow later today,

KR wrote:No probs. The trays are designed to hold the maximum possible with 2 natural constraints - the need to be able to manufacture them, and the likely army lists. I worked closely with David on the layouts based on the army lists - not much benefit in having space for 2 more tanks for example if you would never use them, far better to get the tray set arrangements flexible to support all the variations within the faction. Lists of trays and what they hold for PHR will follow later today,

The PHR mega army doesn't include Menchit Walkers. If the foam can fit two more walkers in (and I have no idea how big they are) it'll be great.

Similarly, the Scourge mega army doesn't include alpha drop ships - I'm sure I'm not the only person who'd like them to fit the foam.

RiTides wrote:My preferred order is Shaltari, shaltari, shaltari

Nah, UCM, more UCM and some Scourge (to kill). Those Shaltari dogs claim they can teleport, let them teleport, they don't deserve good honest transportation.

KR wrote:No probs. The trays are designed to hold the maximum possible with 2 natural constraints - the need to be able to manufacture them, and the likely army lists. I worked closely with David on the layouts based on the army lists - not much benefit in having space for 2 more tanks for example if you would never use them, far better to get the tray set arrangements flexible to support all the variations within the faction. Lists of trays and what they hold for PHR will follow later today,

I modified your original photograph as per the attachment. The tray on the left is almost certainly possible within your constraints, and would add an additional tank capacity to the tray. The one on the right is a little more doubtful to me (distance from the dropships to the stand seems small and the perspective makes it tough to measure) but it would add two tanks to the tray.

Would love to hear your feedback.

Much appreciated, I can certainly see the thought behind the revisions. I agree the one on the right makes some areas quite tight, the one on the left though has good logic. It works well as a fixed size tray. The method I developed at KR is based on fixed quarter tray templates, it makes a mix and match system very economical for custom made trays for any army and this process IP is owned by KR. I will post the tray list for PHR shortly, they are going on the website at the moment !