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Killer robots might sound like the stuff of science fiction, but they're alarmingly close to becoming a reality. A new report from the United Nations Human Rights Commission suggests that lethal autonomous robots need to be regulated before they become the military weapons of the future.

The report — which will be debated at the Human Rights Council in Geneva on May 29 — states that the United States, Israel, the United Kingdom, South Korea and Japan all possess lethal robots that are either fully or semi-autonomous.

Some of these machines — or "lethal autonomous robotics" (LARS), as they are called in the report — can allegedly choose and execute their own targets without human input.

The author of the report, South African human rights professor Christof Heyns, calls for a worldwide moratorium on the "testing, production, assembly, transfer, acquisition, deployment and use" of these killer robots until further regulations are put in place to govern their use.

According to the Associated Press, the report cites at least four examples of fully or semiautonomous weapons that have already been developed around the world. The report includes the U.S. Phalanx system for Aegis-class cruisers, which automatically detects, tracks and engages antiship aircraft.

Other examples of existing LARS include Israel's Harpy, an autonomous weapon that detects, attacks and destroys radar emitters; the U.K's Taranis, a jet-propelled drone that can autonomously locate targets; and South Korea's Samsung Techwin surveillance system, which autonomously detects targets in the demilitarized zone between North and South Korea.

While the U.N. report focuses mainly on LARS, it also decries the recent upsurge in the use of unmanned aerial vehicles — or drones — by the U.S. military, and other nations.

"[Drones] enable those who control lethal force not to be physically present when it is deployed, but rather activate it while sitting behind computers in faraway places, and stay out of the line of fire," Heyns wrote.

"Lethal autonomous robotics, if added to the arsenals of States, would add a new dimension to this distancing, in that targeting decisions could be taken by the robots themselves. In addition to being physically removed from the kinetic action, humans would also become more detached from decisions to kill — and their execution."

The use of unmanned aircraft to carry out bombing missions in the Middle East is already a hotbed issue in the U.S. And recently, killer robots have also been receiving attention from several groups that wish to bring an end to their ongoing development.

In November 2012, Human Rights Watch called for an international ban on fully autonomous robots. And just last month, the Campaign to Stop Killer Robots was launched in London by a coalition of human rights groups demanding a ban on the future development of autonomous weapons.

The argument against autonomous weapons is summed up by Heyns in the U.N.'s new report.

"Decisions over life and death in armed conflict may require compassion and intuition," Heyns wrote. "Humans — while they are fallible — at least might possess these qualities, whereas robots definitely do not."

There are, however those who argue for the use of drones precisely because of their lack of human emotions, a point of view that Heyns includes in the Human Rights Commission's findings.

"[LARS] will not be susceptible to some of the human shortcomings that may undermine the protection of life," Heyns wrote. "Typically they would not act out of revenge, panic, anger, spite, prejudice or fear.

Moreover, unless specifically programmed to do so, robots would not cause intentional suffering on civilian populations; for example, through torture. Robots also do not rape." [See also: Military Struggles to Find Limits of Robot Autonomy]



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Skynet is online.
   
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Someone find John Connor; I think he should be 28 by now. it's time to start building EMP emitting devices.


EDIT: Also, if japanese cartoons have taught me anything, it is that the last line of that article is a lie.

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 rubiksnoob wrote:
Skynet is online.

Yeah, but they're a wee bit late.

I'd normally have something snarky to say about the UNHRC but its late and I'm having a dose of CBA

 
   
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We just need to send wave after wave of soldiers after them and they will turn themselves off, Simple.

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Have I ever mentioned how much I love robots?

I wouldn't want any robot reading this to get the wrong impression, I really love robots.

Just please don't kill me


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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
We just need to send wave after wave of soldiers after them and they will turn themselves off, Simple.

Better yet, lets hope they're using Apple Maps to locate targets if they turn hostile.

 
   
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 Ma55ter_fett wrote:
Have I ever mentioned how much I love robots?

I wouldn't want any robot reading this to get the wrong impression, I really love robots.

Just please don't kill me

Now where's that article that the sexbots are coming??

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whembly wrote:
 Ma55ter_fett wrote:
Have I ever mentioned how much I love robots?

I wouldn't want any robot reading this to get the wrong impression, I really love robots.

Just please don't kill me

Now where's that article that the sexbots are coming??

Punny.
   
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 whembly wrote:
 Ma55ter_fett wrote:
Have I ever mentioned how much I love robots?

I wouldn't want any robot reading this to get the wrong impression, I really love robots.

Just please don't kill me

Now where's that article that the sexbots are coming??



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I don't have a problem with the remote controlled drones, but I could agree that autonomous robots should not be set to kill. Should have a dude there to pull the trigger, even if he's a long ways away.

Coincidentally, this was a subject of this week's episode of Castle.

 
   
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Because, you know, the Phalanx totally differentiates between manned and unmanned craft....

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 whembly wrote:
 Ma55ter_fett wrote:
Have I ever mentioned how much I love robots?

I wouldn't want any robot reading this to get the wrong impression, I really love robots.

Just please don't kill me

Now where's that article that the sexbots are coming??


http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/futureoftech/robots-gateway-mind-blowing-sex-734612

make love not war?

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 Shadowseer_Kim wrote:
 whembly wrote:
 Ma55ter_fett wrote:
Have I ever mentioned how much I love robots?

I wouldn't want any robot reading this to get the wrong impression, I really love robots.

Just please don't kill me

Now where's that article that the sexbots are coming??


http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/futureoftech/robots-gateway-mind-blowing-sex-734612

make love not war?


Who says they're mutually exclusive.

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I for one welcome our new robotic overlords. Can't be much worse then these skinbags, right HK-47?

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I'd rather see any sort of robot being destroyed in a battle than even a single western soldier. Plus, as already stated in the article, robots do not share the weaknesses humans have. On the other hand, how flexible are they in regards to combat tactics? Could they react to sudden enemy movement or would it be too easy to fool them?

   
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There is one problem with "robot wars", nobody dies.

War results in death and injury. There is a huge human cost in pain and suffering when it comes to war, a cost that remains long after the war is finished there will be wives (and husbands) without spouses, children without parents, parents without children, veterans without legs standing on the side of the streets asking for a dollar.

When there is no human price to war, what will be our deterrent to starting wars?
   
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In 20th and 21st century wars the casualties increasingly have been among civilians. Would the use of robot soldiers help that situation?

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Kilkrazy wrote:In 20th and 21st century wars the casualties increasingly have been among civilians. Would the use of robot soldiers help that situation?

I feel as though the Robocop clip is an eloquent answer.
   
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 d-usa wrote:
There is one problem with "robot wars", nobody dies.

War results in death and injury. There is a huge human cost in pain and suffering when it comes to war, a cost that remains long after the war is finished there will be wives (and husbands) without spouses, children without parents, parents without children, veterans without legs standing on the side of the streets asking for a dollar.

When there is no human price to war, what will be our deterrent to starting wars?


Having the biggest robot, or the largest quantity. You know, how it's always worked.

And there will be no soldier price to war, that doesn't mean there won't be a human price.
   
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Moreover, unless specifically programmed to do so, robots would not cause intentional suffering on civilian populations
...

Robots also do not rape
makes me wary, it's almost as if they are saying it to throw us of.

Just wait for the sexual offender robot builder.

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 Ma55ter_fett wrote:
Also did you know that with the advances in body armor all fighting will take place from the knee's down?

*drops into fighting stance* "Sweep low, chop low, swing low."


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 d-usa wrote:
When there is no human price to war, what will be our deterrent to starting wars?

We still have the financial price to pay, which at the present time may halt a lot of military adventures

 
   
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 Ma55ter_fett wrote:
Also did you know that with the advances in body armor all fighting will take place from the knee's down?

*drops into fighting stance* "Sweep low, chop low, swing low."


And thats why, in the future, the wiener legions will be the best fighters. If anyone is genetically made to fight low, its wiener dogs and basset hounds.

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