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LINK TO THE KICKSTARTER:


http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-ii-the-return-of-mr-bones?ref=live


Have seen discussion of a possible second Bones Kickstarter, but no real evidence until I saw this:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UoWap2839a0/UhN23PHncuI/AAAAAAAAw2Q/WowAQAg7zZA/s1600/1098436_702867606406153_196827785_n-1.jpg

I haven't even got my Bones part 1 yet lol!

As long as it isn't future stuff or their steam punk/weird world stuff, I think I will probably go in day 1.

We knew - but thanks for posting about it and thereby volunteering to keep this thread updated when it does launch!

After seeing the Bones stuff around, as well as the awesome deals, I'm sad I missed the first one. It won't happen again!!

 Alpharius wrote:
We knew - but thanks for posting about it and thereby volunteering to keep this thread updated when it does launch!

Your mean .

 Alpharius wrote:
We knew - but thanks for posting about it and thereby volunteering to keep this thread updated when it does launch!

Still just a rumor... I'm sure some reliable and reputable Dakkaite will post a new thread when it does actually launch, and thereby assume the mantle of keeper of the first post.

Tim

I was going to say the same thing . Seems to be how these things go!

Bones 2: The Bonening.

ReaperBryan had already confirmed it is happening. His wife was the one who was passing out those flyers at GenCon IIRC.

Last word seemed to indicate mid September as the launch time, though I havent heard if it has been narrowed down to a specific date quite yet.

 Sidstyler wrote:
Bones 2: The Bonening.

Bones 2: Bone Harder.

 SilverMK2 wrote:

 Sidstyler wrote:
Bones 2: The Bonening.

Bones 2: Bone Harder.

At this rate, this thread will be out of news and rumors faster than flying assault butts.

SilverMK2 wrote:

 Sidstyler wrote:
Bones 2: The Bonening.

Bones 2: Bone Harder.

Sean_OBrien wrote:ReaperBryan had already confirmed it is happening. His wife was the one who was passing out ...

Well, there goes my bank account! Personally, I hope there ARE more of the sci-fi figures in there. More undead varieties, too. And definitely I want the Crimson Knights, Elven Royal Guard, and the Overlord soldiers to be put into the line.

Okie dokie then...more news and rumors...

They have a pretty good idea of whatnthey plan on doing, but that remains flexible.

September was the hopeful start date, but they want to make sure all the prior packages arrive at retailers and overseas customers before they start the next one. Once that happens, they submit their project to Kickstarter and it takes about a week for approval there.

There is some hesitancy to do more Bones Chronoscope figures (the pulp and sci-fi line). The vocal majority of Reapers customers are D&D gamers, and they made much noise about the Chronoscope figures and general duplicates. If you want to see more of those or more of the same types of figures with different poses and what not - the meetings are still happening a few times a week as they go through stretch goals to see what makes the cut. Let your desires be known and make sure they know what you intend on using them for. A wargamer will buy 10 figures for every one that an RPG player buys, but multiple poses are more important than individual characters.

Lead time will be greater on the projected shipping date and they are arranging a more streamlined fulfillment process (not sure if this means fewer options or what, but they wanted to be able to cut the packing and shipping time in half.

Reaper is very open to communication. Use their forums, Facebook, telephones and emails to let them know what you would like to see. If they dont hear from you, they only hear the masses of D&D players who want more single character figures and more single monsters.

I'm glad they completely fulfilled their first KS before starting a second or third while still dealing with problems on the first (mantic...I'm looking at you!).

Sounds good to me! I'd be willing to make myself heard for sci fi.

For me, myself, and only me...I am largely indifferent. The things that would be most useful are things like giants, dragons and other big creatures as well as small stuff like kobolds, dwarves and goblins. Most my collection has been converted to an off scale over the past several years (proper 1/48 scale ). Even though I am only using about half the figures from KS1, it was still one heck of a deal. Figure just on the giants and dragons I probably saved 40% off retail.

That said, every time I get ReaperMatt or Ed's ear...I try to remind them that the bulk orders by wargamers will really pop off once they have armies in Bones of multiple pose (or better still multiple part) figures. Me telling them as much is useful, but a hundred other people saying the same thing will make it all that much more likely to happen.

Converting the Warlord line to plastic?

Blisters of Warlord squads? One can dream right?

All they need to put up are a few more lizards and I'll be in. Or dinosaurs. Or giant gorillas. Or a kaijuu- like tarrasque like people have been piping up about for a while.

One of the things I was most pleased with was all the new stuff that ended up getting sculpted as a result of the kickstarter. Hope we'll see more of that the second time around.

Wouldn't mind seeing a few more fishmen and other aquatic nasties to go with the ones from the first kickstarter. Between those dudes, the latest Pathfinder set, and the Hadross from Wrath of Kings I'll be quite set in regards to building an aquatic kingdom.

Maybe Reaper will make something to play with that Kraken mini that was kickstarted last year. Need more pureblooded cephalopods!

Here's the link to the Bones Forum about the 2nd Kickstarter.- http://www.reapermini.com/forum/index.php?/topic/50930-bones-kickstarter-2/
Also, I'm pretty sure this here's the confirmation about being in the planning stages for the 2nd kickstarter by Reaperbryan- http://www.reapermini.com/forum/index.php?/topic/50930-bones-kickstarter-2/page-27#entry756648

 Kroothawk wrote:

SilverMK2 wrote:

 Sidstyler wrote:
Bones 2: The Bonening.

Bones 2: Bone Harder.

Sean_OBrien wrote:ReaperBryan had already confirmed it is happening. His wife was the one who was passing out ...

Just so long as we get the choice between DVD and Blu Ray

Well I hope they can get the quality up. I feel that the bones line has a massive swing in quality. Some are awsome a few really stink. Also they need to find a way to keep weapons not so bendie. All and all I really like them. However there is room for improvement. Ill get in this one to if I can get 10 tons I figs for 100 bucks.

Some Reaper CAV in bones from a while back:

About which ReaperBryan had to say:

Yes - it is a project. And in the CAV subforum, Jon Walker, developer of CAV has been more open than I. What is being shared there is that these are made of Bonesium, there are 8 prototypes, and we are working on a plan to send more for prototyping once final decisions as to which 4 of the remaining ~120 models are most critical to have this done.

I am not at liberty to discuss pricing or scheduling/release plans.

I'm not sure if that is the best material for CAV stuff. The corner detsils look soft and the rigidly straight CAD designed lines look a bit off.

Yeah, but if they want to make some sort of "all you need to play" starter box, plastic mechs make that affordable.

 warboss wrote:
I'm not sure if that is the best material for CAV stuff. The corner detsils look soft and the rigidly straight CAD designed lines look a bit off.

They can change the properties though. Look at the wings of the wyrmgear, those are rigid (unless those are another material)

Wyrmgear is all PVC, just like the rest of the figures, just a more rigid formula was used for the wings. PVC can be just as sharp as any other plastic, it is mearly a question of the formula you use and the molds you shoot it into.

Regarding the CAV figures, those are test shots IIRC, not from a production mold. As a result, they do look a little soft. I believe that they are going to be rolled out seperate from the KS2 campaign the last I had heard. The final scuplts had been chosen earlier this summer (12 or 16 in total...brain is a bit foggy on that) and it will be part of a larger rerelease of the Bones figures and the updated rules sometime this fall.

 Sean_OBrien wrote:
September was the hopeful start date, but they want to make sure all the prior packages arrive at retailers and overseas customers before they start the next one. Once that happens, they submit their project to Kickstarter and it takes about a week for approval there.

There is some hesitancy to do more Bones Chronoscope figures (the pulp and sci-fi line). The vocal majority of Reapers customers are D&D gamers, and they made much noise about the Chronoscope figures and general duplicates. If you want to see more of those or more of the same types of figures with different poses and what not - the meetings are still happening a few times a week as they go through stretch goals to see what makes the cut. Let your desires be known and make sure they know what you intend on using them for. A wargamer will buy 10 figures for every one that an RPG player buys, but multiple poses are more important than individual characters.

Just some variant poses of your existing models would be perfect.

I'd love some Reaper Trolls, but would need a minimum of 3 different poses to make it a viable wargaming unit.

For large monstrous units, need at least 3 poses, for infantry, need at least 5. That's the baseline.

Give it a try with some existing miniatures, expand the number of poses, offer a huge bundle deal on them and the wargamers will come.

I missed the first KS since I wasn't sure what I'd do with it all and had major concerns about customs fees ordering from the UK (it's still really, really hard to buy Reaper stuff over here, btw). I couldn't cherry-pick add-ons without buying the vampire package either, which meant it made more sense for me to wait for the retail release to get the dragons.

I'm not really motivated enough to go tell Reaper myself, unfortunately... I don't see myself as their target market, and when we had this discussion last time around there was concern that "pandering to wargamers" might not be popular with the core RPG crowd who could become quite annoyed that boring old skeleton pose #4 is being made instead of the lava spawn or the half-bogling shaman that everyone has been asking for.

They could choose to appeal to the wargaming market, they know how to make that happen (your advice is spot-on), and it's really up to them to decide if they want to do that.

It might have cross-appeal to the RPG crowd, too. Say 5 different poses of skeleton with spear, and 5 of skeleton with bow, 5 of skeleton with spear get made... that opens up an opportunity to sell a box of 30 as a skeleton horde, a staple of RPG games as well as wargames.

I think anything that sells well currently, and has a wargaming use as well as an RPG one would be a good "lets try multiple poses" target.

P.S. The familiars are my favourite minis from the first bones KS. Being able to buy a set of assorted pets for an extremely low price is awesome, and makes it an instant impulse buy.

To be fair, how many different options for "horde of skeletons" are there on the market already? Hey, I'd love some proper "horde of _____" stuff for bones 2 but maybe something like kobolds would be a better example.
For skeletons I'd honestly go with either Mantic or GW, depending on taste in skeletons (and no, that's not a rule 34) so how much a unit of bones skeletons would sell, well, maybe. But it's far from a sure thing.

^ Hmm, good point, plus the really impressive price points aren't to be found on infantry minis in the bones line, which means it might not be the best thing to attempt as a risk-fre entry into the wargames market.

However large stuff like this cave troll:

http://miniature-heroes.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=653_667&products_id=25848

Is flat-out the most affordable option on the market, which could make monstrous units the best choice to "test the waters" with multiple poses for the wargaming market.

Or, to put it another way, make three poses of that troll and I will buy a crapload. :p