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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Leerstetten, Germany

It appears that the race of Santa Claus is under attack this year. It started with an article on Slate.

Santa Claus Should Not Be a White Man Anymore

This of course resulted in lots of outrage because either Santa Claus (the magical elf living on the North Pole version who isn't really human to begin with) is clearly white, or the historical St. Nicholaus (who lived in Turkey and would be a nice brown complexion) was clearly white.

Of course this attack on our Caucasian holiday traditions will not go undefended by Fox News:




Resulting in such wonderful quotes like:

"Just because it makes you feel uncomfortable doesn't mean it has to change. You know, I mean, Jesus was a white man too..."
   
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Back in the English morass

Well according to Shaun Ryder Jesus is batman so it could be worse.




I'm not sure why this is relevent
Spoiler:
Santa isn't real
but I suppose something needs to keep the 24 hours news channels fed.

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Reminded me of that article we had on dakka a while ago, about Santa's blackfaced friend...



Santa can be any colour he damn well wants to be. He can travel around the world, visiting every child in what... 12 hours? He's clearly some kind of wizard... or maybe an alien. We should just make him an alien.

Anything would be better than this guy. Feth you Santa! You sell out!

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Well she does bring up good points about santa being white, the penquin thing is kinda EHH.

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Who cares? Megan Kelly is easy on the eyes.

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 Palindrome wrote:
Well according to Shaun Ryder Jesus is batman so it could be worse.




I'm not sure why this is relevent
Spoiler:
Santa isn't real
but I suppose something needs to keep the 24 hours news channels fed.


WHAT DO YOU MEAN SANTA ISN'T REAL?!

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 Frazzled wrote:
Who cares? Megan Kelly is easy on the eyes.

Frazzled has the right of this...

Besides... who cares if Santa is black/white/brown/green?

Geez... some folks just need some thick skins.

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Leerstetten, Germany

Who needs the thick skin?

The initial salon writer who wrote a pretty harmless piece where she talked about maybe making the fictional character that is a representation of the entire season something different than a white man?

The Fox News crowd that got so upset at her that they reassured the children watching her show at 10 pm that Santa Clause is real and is most certainly a white man because the real person he was based on was white (false) and who also made sure to give a shout-out to Caucasian Jesus.

Or the people who are shaking their heads at "I love you white Santa and white Jesus" lady?
   
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I grew up seeing Santa as white. Kids in Africa saw him as being black, I'm sure. The world needs to just accept that he's the magical Flying Spaghetti Monster and get over it.

Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.

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 whembly wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
Who cares? Megan Kelly is easy on the eyes.

Frazzled has the right of this...

Besides... who cares if Santa is black/white/brown/green?

Geez... some folks just need some thick skins.

There in lies the comedy of the situation: a writer offers her light-hearted opinion on the state of the Santa Claus myth (suggesting it should be an innocent penguin), Megyn Kelly is flabbergasted by the idea that a made up character would be anything but white (and by extension, also Jesus Christ, even though that had nothing to do with the topic), Megyn Kelly is soundly mocked for saying something stupid, she then backtracks and goes on the defensive by accuses her detractors of having thin skin and lacking the sophistication to understand and appreciate her "tongue-in-cheek" take on the subject (again, lolwhut?).


So I agree, Megyn Kelly could really use some thicker skin.

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 d-usa wrote:
Who needs the thick skin?

I feel like Everyone needs to with respect to this silly topic. When I was growing up... I couldn't give a gak what skin/gender/IQ Santa had... only that there were presents underneath that damned tree!

The initial salon writer who wrote a pretty harmless piece where she talked about maybe making the fictional character that is a representation of the entire season something different than a white man?

Had no problem with that.

The Fox News crowd that got so upset at her that they reassured the children watching her show at 10 pm that Santa Clause is real and is most certainly a white man because the real person he was based on was white (false) and who also made sure to give a shout-out to Caucasian Jesus.

Yeah... I do think that's silly. But, don't confuse that as a "conservative" argument... I think it's more of the "traditionalist" that is getting their panties twisted.

*shrugs*


Or the people who are shaking their heads at "I love you white Santa and white Jesus" lady?


It's a dumb argument really.

Speaking of which... this guy is an absolute freaking genius!


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Awesome, next lets change Buddha also. I have a problem with him being portrayed as an asian....

I'm just tired of hearing people who have problems with all the ethnicity stuff.
   
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Santa can be whatever colour you want him/her/it to be as he/she/it lives in our hearts.

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It doesn't really matter, but I find it interesting that people are saying St. Nicholas wasn't white because he was Greek living in what is now Turkey. There are a lot of white Turks. I mean, I'm not saying he was definitely white, I'm just saying him being from Turkey doesn't automatically make him not white.

And Jesus was obviously not white. That was the most ridiculous thing about Megyn Kelly's little rant. I was waiting for her to explain that "English was good enough for Jesus, so it's good enough for me!"

   
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Am I the only one who wants to see the movie where santa changes Race depending on house? I would go worse and make it something like he screws up alot, like he is a black man in a white house in the south and ends up getting shot"

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Next they are saying that the Grinch is not green, And Jezus wasn't white, he was tanned, no sunscreen 2000 years ago

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I'll leave this here:
Spoiler:

 d-usa wrote:
"When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
 
   
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No skin off my ass (What. So. Ever) if she pictures her Santa as a penguin. My version of Santa will always be the white old man, and I don't really care where people stick it.

I think it's sad that Fox has to make a mountain out of a molehill by outraging and ruin for everyone. Create an issue where there is none.

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 fishy bob wrote:

I think it's sad that Fox has to make a mountain out of a molehill by outraging and ruin for everyone. Create an issue where there is none.


Then you, my friend, have completely misunderstood the purpose of any news organisation for the past millenia or so

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Well there's a first for me.

Also that War on Christmas picture is hilarious, the December 24, 2010 entry made me spit out my tea.

   
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This will always be the Santa closest to my heart....


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I'm raising my kids to believe in Krampus, the Christmas Devil, instead.

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I refuse to believe appropriately in Santa- white skin or not- if Krampus is not being adequately and respectfully represented.

Anything less is not Christmas.


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Next they are going to say that Christmas is about Jesus rather than rampant consumerism... oh, wait, that sounds a bit too commie for fox news... BRING ON GETTING INTO DEBT FOR PRESENTS!

   
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I think Krampus is cool enough to stand on his own without Santa

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 SilverMK2 wrote:
Next they are going to say that Christmas is about Jesus rather than rampant consumerism... oh, wait, that sounds a bit too commie for fox news... BRING ON GETTING INTO DEBT FOR PRESENTS!



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Haha, excellent tree

Though I see your christmas tree and raise you PAGAN TREE!


   
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Unfortunately everyone else has it wrong.

Santa died in 1941 on December 25th after being shot down over London when he was believed to be a German night bomber. The RAF pilot received a medal for defeating the latest German super weapon. The head of Rudolph the red nosed kraut is still hung in RAF's HQ.


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