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The Imperium seems to be the only major faction that has any truly major issues regarding chaos. The Aeldari from all Aeldari Sub factions despite there entire race being made up of nothing but powerful psykers never seem to have any issues regarding its members turning Choas. The Orks only very very rarely turn Choas. While the Tau themselves are basically invisible to Choas they have numerous other races in there empire that have psykers in them and even a couple that are made up of nothing but Psykers like the Niccasar and they too have had no problems with choas infiltration and corruption as long as you dont count a certain very recent warp Drive experiment/incident. There have been no recorded Choatic corruption mentioned among Humans living in the handful of Necron Dynasty that take a Conquer rather then Extermination approach when dealing with other races. Though admittedly we don't know much about those humans other then that they exist. Why does it seem the only major faction that truly has major problems with Choas is the imperium.

The eldar gave birth to Slaanesh, 1/4 of chaos gods, that’s enough=turning chaos imo; they have been avoiding and fighting chaos; Tau is relative new race that have their heads in the sand until Farsight; orks gods prevents them mostly from being poached by chaos.

because chaos is a manifestation of emotions, usually human. eldar also contributed to the issue, but their addition just consumes their souls rather than corrupting or posessing the,

Pretty sure all 5 flavours of Eldar have their hands full with Chaos nowadays and forever.

Harlequins are specifically anti-demonic Eldar faction, so...

What about Necron and Nids? I'm guessing Necrons don't even appear on Chaos' radar by not having souls, and Nids are not really individual souls?

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Pretty sure all 5 flavours of Eldar have their hands full with Chaos nowadays and forever.

I thought there were only 4? The Clowns, the Torture Porn enthusiasts, the Dino Saur riding ones (aka the only Cool ones) and the really uptight ones.

Because humanity happens to be at the developmental stage most vunerable to Chaos. the Eldar have already fell to chaos near completely (all the eldar factions, including the dark eldar, are the left overs. they're basicly the crumbs on the floor of slaanish's feast) the Tau meanwhile have not yet developed to a stage of racial pyskic awareness and thus are of minimal intreast to chaos. but if the Tau survive a few thousand years to become the dominant race in the galaxy maybe that'll change and the Tau will have their own horus heresy.

Orks don't fall to Chaos because Gork and Mork are too dominant in their society. It's why (cue Chaos rage) Gork and Mork are more powerful than the Chaos gods - literally every Ork, of the many trillions, all worship and believe the exact same thing.

If a few humies believing something can make girls do miracles and spikey boys grow nasty tentacles from their arms and stuff, imagine what the combined weight of an entire race's belief can do.

chimera0205 wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Pretty sure all 5 flavours of Eldar have their hands full with Chaos nowadays and forever.

I thought there were only 4? The Clowns, the Torture Porn enthusiasts, the Dino Saur riding ones (aka the only Cool ones) and the really uptight ones.

Eldar, Dark Eldar, Harlequins, Exodites and Corsairs. (?)

 Orodhen wrote:

chimera0205 wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Pretty sure all 5 flavours of Eldar have their hands full with Chaos nowadays and forever.

I thought there were only 4? The Clowns, the Torture Porn enthusiasts, the Dino Saur riding ones (aka the only Cool ones) and the really uptight ones.

Eldar, Dark Eldar, Harlequins, Exodites and Corsairs. (?)

Oh right. I forgot about the Pirates

 Orodhen wrote:

chimera0205 wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Pretty sure all 5 flavours of Eldar have their hands full with Chaos nowadays and forever.

I thought there were only 4? The Clowns, the Torture Porn enthusiasts, the Dino Saur riding ones (aka the only Cool ones) and the really uptight ones.

Eldar, Dark Eldar, Harlequins, Exodites and Corsairs. (?)

no, its the newest one, the Ynnari; basically the deathwatch of eldar.

The various eldar factions seem to all have their way to contain chaos. The craftworlds have discipline and soulstones, the exodites have their space-amish lifestyle and world spirits, and the drukhari handle it the same way the Imperium does it: total annihilation of anything tainted. Also, it probably helps that they know more about the warp than any other race and so are better prepared to deal with chaos.

The dark eldar books feature a few characters being corrupted/manipulated by chaos. It does cause a really big mess in Commorragh.

As others have said, the other major races have too little warp presence, or no emotions at all or are just too orky to fall to chaos.

chimera0205 wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Pretty sure all 5 flavours of Eldar have their hands full with Chaos nowadays and forever.

I thought there were only 4? The Clowns, the Torture Porn enthusiasts, the Dino Saur riding ones (aka the only Cool ones) and the really uptight ones.

The 5th is Ynnari (as much as I would love to throw all of Gathering Storm into the Retconian).

However as other said there is also technically a sixth, the Corsairs, but I don't think they really care about Chaos outside of nicking Soulstone Tech.

And seventh, Chaos Eldar. Plus the notion Chaos is only Imperial problem is ridiculous, not only Eldar were ruined by it and their lives are shaped by their Chaos-coping stance 24/7 to the vastly bigger degree than human ones are, but the Tau created daemon of Greater Good from their collective ignorance how warp works and now half of them pisses their pants scared what it might do to more hypocrite parts of Tau leadership...

nou wrote:
Harlequins are specifically anti-demonic Eldar faction, so...

Each Eldar faction is defined by *how* it fights Chaos. For all of them, fighting Chaos is a much more clear and present concern than it is for the Imperium.

Harlequins are probably the least directly-affected, though - Cegorath simply protects them.

Craftworlders need to carry stones to protect their soul, and to swallow their soul should they die. Without those stones, they get devoured by Chaos quickly. They also need to walk the Path system to carefully channel their obesessive natures to avoid falling to Chaos.

Dark Eldar need to feed *something* the pain and misery of living creatures to keep from getting devoured. Whether they're feeding themselves or Slanesh is debateable in the fluff, but all that effort spent on pain and torture isn't *just* for fun - it's also their only way to stave off Chaos.

Exodites are stuck on their Worlds with their World Spirits or whatever, much like Craftworlders with their soulstones/etc.

Most other factions have their own reasons:
-T'au were ostensibly uplifted *because* they're so resistant to Chaos. According to some fluff, they are the "Incorruptable Swarm".
-Orkz are a Chaos faction. Their strength comes from their Warp powers. It's just that they serve Gork and Mork instead of the Big Four.
-Necrons have been fighting Chaos literally longer than any other faction, except maybine Nids, have existed. But they were fighting Chaos when there were still Old Ones to wield it.
-The Nids are basically just competing with Chaos for food.


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 BaconCatBug wrote:

chimera0205 wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Pretty sure all 5 flavours of Eldar have their hands full with Chaos nowadays and forever.

I thought there were only 4? The Clowns, the Torture Porn enthusiasts, the Dino Saur riding ones (aka the only Cool ones) and the really uptight ones.

The 5th is Ynnari (as much as I would love to throw all of Gathering Storm into the Retconian).

However as other said there is also technically a sixth, the Corsairs, but I don't think they really care about Chaos outside of nicking Soulstone Tech.

When it comes to fighting Chaos, Corsairs are more of "I'm actually a Craftworlder, I'm just on vacation".

Regardless, you forgot [redacted], who predate Ynnari.

([redacted] is most likely Crone World Eldar. And Chaos is most certainly their problem.)

You're confusing Chaos and the Warp. There's a difference between them.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
What about Necron and Nids? I'm guessing Necrons don't even appear on Chaos' radar by not having souls, and Nids are not really individual souls?

Neither Daemons nor Nids have anything to gain from each other; daemons have no biomass, nids have no emotions. They do, however, fight over worlds they want to corrupt or consume respectively. This is a significant enough issue for the Hive Mind that it has birthed a major hive fleet specifically to fight chaos (Kronos).

Chaos is the preferred enemy of 2 races: the Imperium, on who they feed and from who the deadliest mortal warriors of the chaos armies come from, with an urge to reduce it to galactic pulp because horus and betrayal and ya know.

Second is the Eldar, who have tasty souls and fight back hard to not be swallowed by Slaanesh. Plus the eldars wage their war against chaos because they did create it as it is now, somehow, and beause as the arrogant donkey-caves that they are, they fiercly believe no one else is able to hold them back.

The focus of the lore is almost always on the Imperium and so the Imperium versus Chaos conflict draws all the attention, so in the end it does look like Chaos is a thorn only in the imperum's side.

Now actually, set aside the orks who don't give a damn, most races are confronted with chaos and thretened by it, even if not as clearly: the tau have had a few skirmishes and if the pointy guys found out, they could very well rampage through it. The necrons don't want THEIR galaxy occupied by yet another faction that ambitions nothing less than dominating THEIR galaxy. The nids won't be bothered to have worlds debied by Chaos and actually regard them as a threat to their "interest".

So, well, chaos is pretty much a galaxy wild concern for everyone, maybe it's just not as thrilling to have them dump Nurglite virus ladden missiles on top of the necrons than it is to look at them dump said missiles onto imperial worlds on which to avenge in their hate for the imperium that forsook 'em etc (insert sad violin ).

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

If a few humies believing something can make girls do miracles and spikey boys grow nasty tentacles from their arms and stuff, imagine what the combined weight of an entire race's belief can do.

I dont think we have to imagine for very long.

From the new faith and fury:



https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/e5xunk/interesting_bits_from_the_psychic_awakening_2/

 Andersp90 wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

If a few humies believing something can make girls do miracles and spikey boys grow nasty tentacles from their arms and stuff, imagine what the combined weight of an entire race's belief can do.

I dont think we have to imagine for very long.

From the new faith and fury:

Spoiler:

The Orks are massing in parts of the galaxy and it looks like the Orks psychic energy is welling and growing in the Warp, Drums of war can be heard in communications and in minds. Astropaths that get touched by it have their heads exploded. They are growing louder and louder. Signal the time of the ORK!

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/e5xunk/interesting_bits_from_the_psychic_awakening_2/

Thanks for sharing dude, to be fair I should've guessed some of this as its very similar to what happens in the Beast Arises books. Too many Orks = too much WAAAAGH! Energy = human psykers go mad or explode (every psyker becomes a weirdboy).

Top stuff.

Humans are one of the most widespread and populous races in the Galaxy at the time of the 41st Millennium. This is greatly aided by the fact that there initial expansion was brutally fast and combined not just an expansionist and conquest focus, but was also extremely Xenophobic after a time. I believe there was a time when they were less hostile, however a few bad interactions soured them and, in the classic 40K style, the Imperium took things to the extreme of purging xenos wherever they could.

Even Tau were originally set to to be purged until their world was lost in the chaos that is the Imperium databases and archives.


So basically we see a lot of human issues with chaos because they are directly feeding and influenced by it and they are a huge population dealing with it.


A second good point is that a LOT of the lore of 40K revolves around the Imperium. So we, again, see far more of their issues because the lore directly focuses on them. Random Xeno species that also suffer from problems with Chaos we just don't hear about.




As noted above Eldar birthed Slannesh. That act broke them as a people and race and crippled them. They are so heavily crippled that they wear soulstones to capture their souls before they enter the warp and their whole society is built around methods designed to reduce the chances of warp influence and corruption. They even have to send harvesting fleets into the old core worlds of their peoples to harvest the soulstones, even though they are worlds overrun with chaos corruption.



Orks used to fall to chaos and there were chaos orks; these days they are not so much ret-conned as lore argued into insignificance. Not only are most orks only interested in Gork and Mork (who are powerful warp gods in their own right). But they also have a collective mind sharing (that they aren't fully aware of); which also aids their ability to spot orks who are just not propa orky. So any orks that do turn are more likely to be identified and killed by their fellow orks. It makes spread of Chaos infection in Ork society very hard.
It's also important to note that many vectors Chaos uses to corrupt are based on temptation and Orks basically mostly just want to fight, which is just what feeds their Gods. So there's less for the other Chaos Gods to offer and tempt orks away that isn't just an extension of what Gork and Mork already give/feed off.


Necrons and Tyranids are both pretty much Chaos Immune. Tyranids do have some problems tackling full demon infestations because demonic creatures vanish when killed. Leaving reduced biomass to consume on fully corrupted worlds. However they got around that by having one fleet fight chaos and another fleet pre-digesting non-chaos worlds nearby and leaving the soup on the world for the chaos fighting fleet to them dip into when it requires. Basically one fleet feeding another.

Thanks to the Great Crusade, the galaxy only really has a handful of species/factions that operate on a galactic scale, and it's telling that all of them are either resistant to chaos or plagued by it. I think it can be theorized that based on what we've seen that once a species reaches a certain density it either faces a cataclysm with Chaos or develops/utilizes a resistance to it. The Aeldari faced their tipping point and were almost destroyed, and they caution that humanity is on the exact same course that they were. Given that we know there were and are chaos worshipping Xenos species like the Laer and the Loxatl, maybe the Aeldari and humanity are outliers in that they grew so numerous without being warp resistant and most Xenos cultures level out well before the galactic level. In the Great Crusade I believe the only particularly large empires encountered were Orks, Aeldari, and Rangdan, so it seems like most species get knocked down before they ever reach that level. Even in the latest setting the biggest threats to evolve in ten millennia are an awakened ancient species, a young but plucky and curiously warp resistant species, and an extragalactic invader seem to support the possibility that Chaos isn't just a problem for the Imperium and may just be more successful at overtaking entire species than they are with humanity.

Well.

Orks are a Warp cult all their own, just utterly dedicated to Gork and Mork. For all it’s bizarreness to other species, it’s a very satisfied society. You can do what you want, until someone bigger smacks you down. But that’s fine, because you literally thrive off fighting. The more you fight, the bigger you get.

So Chaos has no real toe hold. No dreams to corrupt. To ambition to twist. Gork and Mork embody, endorse and provide all that Orks want.

Tyranids are utterly free from ego. So whilst, theoretically, the Hive Mind itself could be possessed, it’d take a spectacularly powerful warp entity to do so. It’s just too big and too powerful for even a Great Daemon to do anything with.

Tau? Little concept of the Gods, so far.

Eldar of all stripes? Far, far too aware to go dabbling. Craft worlds use the Path, Dark Eldar use murder and torture to prolong their life. Harlequins simply wouldn’t. They also have incredibly long life spans, and can handily cheat death, after a fashion.

Necrons? Ain’t go not souls, ain’t got no problem. (Note that this is different to human pariahs. Necrons have an absence of the soul, Pariahs seem to have negative souls,

Humans? We live fast. We die easy. The Imperium is necessary brutalism. Better billions suffer than trillions die etc. We have ego, we have ambition. We have psychic potential. In short, we’re the main prey. We also, arguably, have the biggest influence over the Gods because of the sheer, staggering number of us. That in turn will shape the Gods desires and sphere of influence.

Tau have their own god of Greater Good now.

Oh but that is so very easily corrupted...

pm713 wrote:
Tau have their own god of Greater Good now.

Funny thing is that I think that it has to do more with the auxiliary elements of the Tau more than the Tau themselves, as the humans and other psychic races thoughts and beliefs about the Greater Good have coalesced into this being.

We actually really don't know if it's an almost exclusively human problem. The Q'orl clashed with Nurgle and are believed to possibly be dabbling in Chaos magic, and there are quite a few dangerous alien races out there that for whatever reason have not factored much into larger galactic events, so we can't really say how they interact with Chaos. What is Chaos' relations with the Q'orl? The Hrud? The savage Rak'gol, who seem to live a very Slaaneshi lifestyle? The Slaugth have a heavy Nurglite vibe, while the Lacrymole would be perfect for spreading Tzeentchian malevolence. Due to how big the Imperium is, humanity makes for a very easy meal for Chaos, but that does not mean that there aren't many other dishes on the menu as well.

pm713 wrote:
Tau have their own god of Greater Good now.

No, not the tau themselves. The psychic races that serve them have created one (those of them that believe in the greater good). A twisted reflection of their belief.

 Andersp90 wrote:

pm713 wrote:
Tau have their own god of Greater Good now.

No, not the tau themselves. The psychic races that serve them have created one (those of them that believe in the greater good). A twisted reflection of their belief.

Either way it's dumb. And it's tied to the Tau enough to make a bunch of them decide to start massive team killing and break some of them mentally so I think it counts as a Tau god.