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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 15:35:01
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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From Garro on FB - It appears that the combat patrol boxset that will be coming with the blood angels supplement in December has been leaked. Primaris Librarian, 3x Primaris Aggressors, 5x Primaris Intercessors, Primaris Infiltrators/Incursors & a Primaris Impulsor (plus a couple of upgrade sprues). EDIT: Already mentioned in the existing Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion thread...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 15:42:52
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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The box has grown on me a little. I'm not a big fan of Incursors but I suppose a 5 man squad is fine. I dislike most Primaris tanks so I'm not overjoyed about the Impulsor. Sad to see more Aggressors, I'm hoping for a CP marine box with Supressors or Inceptors at some point. No complaints about the Librarian or the Intercessors. I think I'll wait to see what DA /UM / IH / WS / IF get before I buy anything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 15:50:46
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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If you don't like Incursors, you can still build Infiltrators. This box definitely has grown on me with the 5x Intercessors. Librarian is "meh" to me as are the BA parts but the rest is stuff I don't have(Impulsor) or don't have much of (Intercessors and Gravis).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 15:57:14
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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I'm just not keen on Phobos in general, except Reivers, which I think are cool. And as people are saying in the other thread, the red / yellow colour combo doesn't do them any favours. Still, having a small squad in the colours of my choice seems ok on reflection.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 16:11:25
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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JWBS wrote:The box has grown on me a little. I'm not a big fan of Incursors but I suppose a 5 man squad is fine. I dislike most Primaris tanks so I'm not overjoyed about the Impulsor. Sad to see more Aggressors, I'm hoping for a CP marine box with Supressors or Inceptors at some point. No complaints about the Librarian or the Intercessors. I think I'll wait to see what DA /UM / IH / WS / IF get before I buy anything.
You won't see a box with the Ugliest Primaris Jump Infantry until they get a release outside of the Shadowspear sprues.
Inceptors instead of Aggressors might be possible, though. Possibly as part of the DA patrol, with them built as the plasma version?
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 16:19:03
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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Yeah I actually meant the snipers, I know they've got a proper kit that could go into a CP box. Yes Inceptors might be good for DA, or maybe even Hellblasters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 16:23:18
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Honestly, I'm surprised that the BA set comes with Hellblasters. I thought they'd come with DA. I'm thinking that the DA one will have a Redemptor or a Executioner.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 16:28:25
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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IF and IH also good candidates for the Redemptor / some sort of tank.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 16:34:32
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Shame they're expensive, but buying this and the deathwatch one might be a good start for just a basic primaries force.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 16:58:27
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Calculating Commissar
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I haven't been keeping up with 40k much, but I'm glad GW hasnt retconned the yellow and blue helmets from Blood Angel specialists. For me the 2E color scheme is always going to be the right one, with black shoulder trim and yellow insignia for sergeants :-P
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 17:02:35
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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I like the blue dev heads, not so much the yellow though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 17:14:43
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Personally, it feels like the multicoloured helmets are a relic from the days when everything was brightly coloured and on a bright green base. It looked awful then and it looks awful now.
As a rule, first founding chapters look better in their Heresy colours.
But that’s just my opinion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 17:21:43
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Terrifying Wraith
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I've got like 5k of blood angels and have never gone in for the blue/yellow/gold helmets, it's bad. Red all the way.
Except for the tank this is all crap I already have multiple times so it's a pass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 17:23:08
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Well, I have no idea if they will be following suit with the other boxes, but if this box also happens to be 140 USD it would actually be a pretty good deal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 18:25:55
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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As much as I wanted the Warsuit from the Space Wolves box, I'm glad I held off after seeing the Blood Angels one. I'll happily buy this one for my Silver Templars.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 21:17:00
Subject: Re:Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Fireknife Shas'el
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I will love this box, because getting Librarians and Impulsors at a discount is great, and I can use all the other units too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 21:40:26
Subject: Re:Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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Blood Angels vet from 2nd ed here... and this box is a pass for me.
There doesn't seem to be much on offer here for existing players - all the units here have been available for a while now, and they don't reeeeally synergise that well together to be worth the discount, unless you already had your eye on all the units anyway.
Besides that - it's not really a very Blood Angel-y box, is it...? Intercessors and the Impulsor are fine I suppose, and flamer Aggressors are a step in the right direction. But a Librarian is rarely our first HQ choice (behind a Captain or a Chaplain) and Incursors aren't exactly the assault troops GW seems to want to pretend they are - Assault Intercessors would have been much better.
Meanwhile there's absolutely nothing here that sells the BA flavour, for instance Death Company. I'm also not seeing any evidence of an upgrade sprue in the box, which is a big mis-step. (edited because apparently I'm overdue a visit to the optician...)
I guess I'm not exactly the target market here. But if the intent is to sell this to new players it's taking their collection in a direction away from what you might expect a Blood Angels army to look like. (And for what it's worth, I have the same misgivings about the SW and DW boxes.)
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"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 21:59:59
Subject: Re:Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Super Ready wrote:Meanwhile there's absolutely nothing here that sells the BA flavour, for instance Death Company. I'm also not seeing any evidence of an upgrade sprue in the box, which is a big mis-step.
At least one of the Intercessors is rocking an embossed BA shoulder pad, so there's at least one upgrade sprue in the box, probably two.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 22:10:17
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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Intercessor Sgt in the one they use on the photo of the actual upgrade kit I think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 22:33:41
Subject: Re:Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Terrifying Doombull
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Dysartes wrote: Super Ready wrote:Meanwhile there's absolutely nothing here that sells the BA flavour, for instance Death Company. I'm also not seeing any evidence of an upgrade sprue in the box, which is a big mis-step.
At least one of the Intercessors is rocking an embossed BA shoulder pad, so there's at least one upgrade sprue in the box, probably two.
One, I would think. It would cover the Intercessors and Aggressors (and those pads are visible, and the intercessor sgt has chainsword, pistol and a bare head), and nothing else in the box has bits (that I can see).
The BA sprue has a 6th standard shoulder pad, so you could pop it on the Librarian if you want to.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 22:44:27
Subject: Re:Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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Ah, good spot - and it would actually match the SW box having theirs. Ok, I'll retract that particular criticism then.
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"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 22:45:04
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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So we're clear, it's probably two sets of the upgrade kit which would mean four sprues.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 22:50:51
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Kanluwen wrote:So we're clear, it's probably two sets of the upgrade kit which would mean four sprues.
The Blood Angels Primaris upgrade only contains a single sprue, not two like the later versions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 22:55:17
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Why would there be more than 1 upgrade sprue? The sprue has 6 regular pads and 3 larger pads, enough to exactly cover the minis in the box that can have them.
The Infiltrator/Incursors don't take the same pads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 22:57:17
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Platuan4th wrote: Kanluwen wrote:So we're clear, it's probably two sets of the upgrade kit which would mean four sprues.
The Blood Angels Primaris upgrade only contains a single sprue, not two like the later versions.
good to know then! Is there enough for hellblasters and intercessors and librarian?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 22:58:12
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Kanluwen wrote:good to know then! Is there enough for hellblasters and intercessors and librarian?
What Hellblasters?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 23:00:08
Subject: Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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The BA box has slightly more expensive stuff than the SW box (Repulsor, Librarian, and Aggressors vs Invictor, Lieutenant, and Reivers), so stingier upgrade sprues seems reasonable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 23:02:14
Subject: Re:Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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There's 9 per sprue / frame, so there's enough for the box ( link) -
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/01 23:52:56
Subject: Re:Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Super Ready wrote:Blood Angels vet from 2nd ed here... and this box is a pass for me.
There doesn't seem to be much on offer here for existing players - all the units here have been available for a while now, and they don't reeeeally synergise that well together to be worth the discount, unless you already had your eye on all the units anyway.
Besides that - it's not really a very Blood Angel-y box, is it...? Intercessors and the Impulsor are fine I suppose, and flamer Aggressors are a step in the right direction. But a Librarian is rarely our first HQ choice (behind a Captain or a Chaplain) and Incursors aren't exactly the assault troops GW seems to want to pretend they are - Assault Intercessors would have been much better.
Meanwhile there's absolutely nothing here that sells the BA flavour, for instance Death Company. I'm also not seeing any evidence of an upgrade sprue in the box, which is a big mis-step. (edited because apparently I'm overdue a visit to the optician...)
I guess I'm not exactly the target market here. But if the intent is to sell this to new players it's taking their collection in a direction away from what you might expect a Blood Angels army to look like. (And for what it's worth, I have the same misgivings about the SW and DW boxes.)
right blood angels aren't big on librarians, despite being the only chapter with libby dreadnoughts and being a founding member of the librarius during the great crusade era. and Incursors ARE a solid melee unit. they have 2 AP -1 attacks, that's as good as assault intercessors and assault Marines. Also the box includes death company...
or did you forget that death company intercessors are a thing now?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/02 00:17:35
Subject: Re:Blood Angels Combat Patrol Box
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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Incursors don't get the extra chainsword attack that Assault Intercessors do, nor their 'fight twice' strat, and they're also miles behind almost every other combat unit the Codex unit has to offer (the exceptions being Reavers - ugh - and Assault Marines without jump packs - double ugh). So no - I don't agree that Incursors are a core assault unit for the Chapter. Also... splitting hairs here I know, considering they're both "new" units, but... they just don't seem as iconic for Blood Angels as the Assault Intercessors would, either.
I'd still argue for a Chaplain in the box over a Librarian as they're just as important to the BA fluff-wise, and they usually work better for us on the table. I do see your point there, I'm just not convinced.
The Death Company Intercessors... that one, I'll give you, that's a good point. Though considering we know the studio army has them painted already, and standard Intercessors fulfils the second Troops requirement, it's arguable that wasn't the intent here.
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"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch |
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