Horus Heresy / 30K N&R

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**SamusDrake**

Loved that show!

Vic's failed jokes...

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Is the Aquila just the Dove from Above?

**lord_blackfang**

Fellblade confirmed in the trailer huh

**SamusDrake**

The Beast from the East. The Vest from the West.

Sign language? Thats really cool.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Gorgeous animation!

And Fellblades? Plastic Fellblades!

I’m chaining my wallet and encasing it in ice right now, whilst it’s still possible.

**SamusDrake**

I must say I'm more a fan now for having seen that trailer. Shame they can't do a whole show like that.

**The Power Cosmic**

Disappointing that the armor on the legs isn't overlapping plates. I can understand maybe that molding would be more difficult, but still a shame. It's not as good a design as the layers.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

MkII is gorgeous. Really nicely detailed without being all fiddly and that.

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Even if its rules suck? The turret from that defence platform is ideal for terrain.

**Lathe Biosas**

StudentOfEtherium wrote:
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So anyways, let’s see if we can all be buddies again.

For those buying the boxed set, what are your plans for the MkII?

Currently my army is all MkVI for the Power Armour. But I don’t have any Veteran or other unusual units.

Being an older Mk, I think it’ll suit Veterans quite nicely. I should also be able to kit bash myself some Interemptors. Not sure exactly how just yet, but I reckon Legion Icon shoulder pads, maybe the MkVI Dark Angel heads, and slightly tarted up Plasma Guns.

Would certainly beat arsing around with cursed resin.

girlfriend and i are planning to use this as an excuse to start new armies. my plan is loyalist ksons, and i believe hers is night lords

Uh... Aren't you supposed to painting up your kick-ass Custodes?

**lord_blackfang**

OK so the kustom force field bit IS on the back of Saturnine termies

**MajorWesJanson**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
MkII is gorgeous. Really nicely detailed without being all fiddly and that.

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Even if its rules suck? The turret from that defence platform is ideal for terrain.

Maybe an Astartes version of the Firestorm Redoubt?

**SamusDrake**

Just wondering if they'll have 30K packaged Custodes...

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

MajorWesJanson wrote:
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
MkII is gorgeous. Really nicely detailed without being all fiddly and that.

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Even if its rules suck? The turret from that defence platform is ideal for terrain.

Maybe an Astartes version of the Firestorm Redoubt?

More or less my thoughts, yes.

**SamusDrake**

I think is just the box set and nothing else. They're dragging it out...

**MarkNorfolk**

I'll drop out and come back when the summary is up.

**Tsagualsa**

SamusDrake wrote:
I think is just the box set and nothing else. They're dragging it out...

Nah, they can easily throw in something about that short story compilation that's due to be released, and maybe do some vague glimpsing™ at something for LI or whatever.

**lord_blackfang**

Oh no

It sounds like they mucked up the rules completely

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Changed, mucked up remains of be seen.

**Mr_Rose**

The return of the mental stats of yesteryear!

**lord_blackfang**

Yeaaa, 4 mental stats that are all the same value... yay.

**SamusDrake**

Sigh. Glad I kept it to just AT. I guess there is something to having an edition that lasted as far back as 2018...

**lord_blackfang**

8th edition level reboot nobody asked for

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Yeaaa, 4 mental stats that are all the same value... yay.

For base Astartes.

I like the concept. Execution, who knows.

**Gert**

Anyone care to elaborate on this for people who are stuck away from a stream watchable environment?

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Leadership, Cool, Willpower and Intelligence are now separate stats.

Base Marine has 7 across the board. Each deals with different interactions.

From the way it was described, something like Tech-Thralls will score high in Ld (being told what to do), and pretty crappy in other stuff.

We need more context though.

**SnotlingPimpWagon**

lord_blackfang wrote:
8th edition level reboot nobody asked for

I wouldn’t go that far.
A leap from 4th to 7th - more likely
Glad it’s not an 8th-10th structure of rules, from what we’ve seen. Although tokens got me worried, and I’d be more prematurely upset if there were less stats in things, compared to prior editions, than more.
All in all- I’m glad i ditched the previous rule books in exchange for cash a couple of years ago - wouldn’t have a chance to play either way.
3 year rules cycle sucks.
But HH is still on the menu for me, especially compared to 40k

**Gert**

Oh jeez. So it's like Necromunda stat lines for a mass battle game? Can't imagine who thought that was a good idea.

**blood reaper**

OH NO NO WE GOT TOO COCKY HERESY BROS.

**SamusDrake**

So far no skirmish or zone mortalis rules in the core rule book. Not looking good...

Somewhat on the fence about the Liber Mechanicum being split into two books. I love Knights but would only get the book if it's sensibly cheaper for it.

**MajorWesJanson**

Damage Stat? I'm optimistic on that one.

Ld, Cool, will, Intelligence may be a bit excessive, but I can see different uses for them- will for dealing with psychic and demonic. Cool for things like pinning shell-shocked, night lords. Intelligence for following orders, maybe for reactions? Ld for base morale, regrouping