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That spider is a beast, and she's like $60 in metal. She's a bit expensive at $15, but it doesn't matter, I'll have to pick her up on ebay.

They really should have just added more to the core.

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

Pi video posted.
Not the pie advertised, I am collecting names for a class-action suit as we speak.

 chris_valera wrote:
That spider is a beast, and she's like $60 in metal. She's a bit expensive at $15, but it doesn't matter, I'll have to pick her up on ebay.

They really should have just added more to the core.

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

I completely agree.

Really f****** weaksauce to end the three million dollar campaign with not even one lousy additional figure to the core.

The "Thank You" items being a $20 add-on is a little cynical. I'll let my $100 ride and sort it out in a month or so via the PM.

Ended up at $195 (Core + Lords of Darkness + Expansion 2 + DDS2). While I'm not in love with everything coming, I think there's enough there that I'll come out ahead on the deal. Really wanted those Barrow Wardens, but they're the only thing in Expansion 1 that I really want so they're not worth plunking down $50 for.

Oh well, something to buy at the FLGS.

 Sean_OBrien wrote:


That is a really big spider. I have the metal one, and it is one of those who weighs so much that I don't bring her out very often. Bones would be nice.

2nd one is much better picture and makes it look worth 15$. First one is more squished "little" thing.

Spider DO NOT WANT. Good thing there're plenty of other add-ons Fun kickstarter now to wait for my toys!

We know that we didn't make the $3,250,000 - but you guys have been great, so we're adding Cadirith, Colossal Spider to the rewards!

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I also think they have the image a bit off in terms of the scale versus Sir Forscale.

The Body is easily 2 Sir Forscales long and with the legs posed like I have mine - it can almost straddle a desert plate.

And its over! And the Spider has been added as well even though the target wasn't reached (remember pledge calculator lets you add more funds so you can still add it without problem).

And Bones 2-Kickstarter ended up being the most popular kickstarter in the Traditional games category.
(On a technicality that, Bones 1 was on 'games' category instead.)

 adhuin wrote:
And Bones 2-Kickstarter ended up being the most popular kickstarter in the Traditional games category.
(On a technicality that, Bones 1 was on 'games' category instead.)

Too bad we couldn't get a Penny Arcade push, but adding that spider as a paid add-on left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth. Like really guys, two barbarians and a basilisk? That all you could be bothered to add for free?

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

Don't forget the not-bullette and the oh-so-exciting bases! I mean BASES! Who doesn't want bases! Ugh. It's not that I really felt I deserved more free stuff, it's just that the free stuff they added kinda sucked. Dragon Hatchlings were added as the $1million stretch, so here is what $2,169,610 got us



I kept my $100 pledge and added the $35 dragon and ruins, I had wave 1 shipping and plan to throw it on ebay when it arrives, along with half the core set. I figure I'll at least break even and come out with a few figs I want out of it. Definitely not what I was hoping for or even expecting. Not angry, just kinda disapointed in Reaper is all.

Here is a comparison of the two $100 levels.

Meh, I *always* need more bases. ALWAYS. I don't know what you guys do that you don't, but I'm always running out of them, even when I buy a bag of 50 extras at a time =/ So kudos bases, especially the bigger stuff

They got me pretty good on this one, I was not expecting to go over 100-150 but I sure as hell did. Need to tweak my last few options. Gonna give it a good think and mull things over for a few days, don't think I need the last two things, but probably need two of those Dragons Don't Share 2 kits for sure.

 GrimDork wrote:
Meh, I *always* need more bases. ALWAYS. I don't know what you guys do that you don't, but I'm always running out of them, even when I buy a bag of 50 extras at a time =/ So kudos bases, especially the bigger stuff

They got me pretty good on this one, I was not expecting to go over 100-150 but I sure as hell did. Need to tweak my last few options. Gonna give it a good think and mull things over for a few days, don't think I need the last two things, but probably need two of those Dragons Don't Share 2 kits for sure.

Dude, you can buy mine, or I'll trade you for any player PC types you don't want

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

czakk wrote:
3 million reached, and this was revealed:

And we have another treat for our Backers! As our way of saying Thank You for everything you have done to help make this project a reality, we are offering now this new goal item - the aptly-name "THANK YOU SET"! Featuring Wayne Reynold's Highland Encounter Pack, with a Highland Heroine, a Highlands Gnoll, a Bagpiping Familiar, and a Standing Stone! Also includes the Cloaker, Peryton, Marilith, and Filth Beast! ALL of these for only $20!

If the cloak beast sculpt is good, I'll be after some when they're sold individually... whenever that is .

Are most bones from KS1 up on the Reaper site yet?

All the Bones I are on the website, have been since august.

I dropped my early bird core but stayed in for $1 so i can pick and choose what i want, it's great that you have up till december to pay as i get my redundancy pay next month and can go a bit nuts on the add ons!

Buh But we didn't get the spide... oh wait. Good call then? I look forward to september or whenever my pledge level ships, gonna be fun tearing into that box

 GrimDork wrote:
Buh But we didn't get the spide... oh wait. Good call then? I look forward to september or whenever my pledge level ships, gonna be fun tearing into that box

I might just have painted half the stuff from Bones I by the time Bones II shows up....

Naah who am i kidding? No chance.

I've got Deadzone incoming, and maybe even Mars Attacks will beat Bones 2 to my doorstep. I'm not too afraid of the model count, or even the big nasties... my airbrush should see me through!

I have found that Bones seem to paint faster - or at least I tend to paint them faster for whatever reason. I am most the way through KS1 as well as some extras I have ordered since then.

With any luck they will get shipping underway well ahead of schedule, as there are several figures here that I really want to paint up.

Also, based on the SKUs listed on the images now, they added 304 new catalog items during this campaign. Not too shabby at all for growing the range.

I can't make up my mind just how I feel about this campaign.

The first one was just too good to be true. I hadn't used Kickstarter yet at the time it was running and just couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger.

This time I figured I'd be from the first moment. It was great at first... it just seemed to peter out after we'd hit that first million or so. The core goals got sparser and sparser. Even the add ons seemed to taper off after a while.

I think if they had really wanted to, they could have taken this thing all the way for the 5 or 6 million like they had planned out. I can't help but wonder what kind of stuff ended up getting cut out this time (like that whole extra section of the game board!)

Looking forward to my Dragons Don't Share. Those ruin will get a lot of use. Dragon looks good too. Got a giant kaiju monster.

No Tiamat- like dragon. Oh well. No Reptus or lizardmen (except for the dude in the core set, which saves me about 10-12 since I wanted to get him anyways).

Really wished they had been a bit more cohesive with the expansions. Maybe next time?

Season Three- will they or won't they?

The first KS *was* too good to be true. If you look at Update 30, they made only 1.59% "profit", which was spent on the injection mold machine, warehousing, shelves, etc.. Not exactly "profit" in my book. I would rather call this "leftover wiggle room". Had the "dumbass" portion, which basically means mistakes and stuff they didn't account for, been larger, Reaper could have even lost money on the project.

At "150 miniatures for $100", the Core set was as good as any bulk purchase could be. MYTH and Zombicide 2 are the only KS that I know of which reaches this mark, and the number of unique sculpts is *much* lower. Yeah, I know you get a boardgame as well.

It *could* have been larger, but funding is gross income, not net. They would have reached higher funding if they put more stuff into the Core, but I'd like Reaper to err on the side of staying in business.

International shipping was an issue, but that issue *always* comes up for overseas backers, especially if the creator doesn't want to take a loss on international backers. Inability to pick individual miniatures from an expansion was also an issue, and Reaper will have the numbers to see if the expansions were a better idea than individual add-ons.

I'd say the KS was a success because they managed to pry more money out of my wallet this KS than last KS, or any other KS. This KS was a great opportunity to buy an assortment of FRPG miniatures, but not much more.

Posting extremely late a night. We worked a ton of overtime today, past midnight in fact,, which would have made the Dragons Don't Share II, Giant Spider or Thank You expansion a little more palatable. But I guess it'll help me afford what I already ordered. I'll pick up the rest on ebay.

My offer to trade bases for the big spider or the "Thank You" expansion still stands.

 Sean_OBrien wrote:
Also, based on the SKUs listed on the images now, they added 304 new catalog items during this campaign. Not too shabby at all for growing the range.

For as much as I kvetched about the Bathalians, I really am happy they were able to expand the company, but it wouldn't have killed them to be a little more generous.

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

Not shabby, but not nearly the 7 million you predicted Sean, and not as high / as many backers as Bones 1. I do think they ran this very smart, though- not breaking the bank. The Dragons don't share almost got me in, but I just wanted the ruins and they were $30 alone. I hope Bones 3 is terrain based, like Wehrkind guessed- I'd be in for that in a heartbeat!

The last ks had me excited the whole way through and pumped for months afterwards. This one aside from thr initial "awesome, new reaper ks!" I have been pretty disapointed. It might have been better to have the core set smaller to start with and shove the models out through the ks to generate more interest.

Have Reaper ever mentioned why they don't do more terrain?

Joyboozer wrote:
Have Reaper ever mentioned why they don't do more terrain?

Well, Reaper's traditional medium was metal. Terrain doesn't really work too well with that. Since Bones(pvc) is a new medium for them it takes a while to ramp up the product design process to take advantage of this new material... Though, looking at this KS, it's clear that they are in fact ramping up to take advantage of the Bones material in the terrain scene.

The first Bones was new, amazing, surprising and fresh, it was also a very big KS project that introduced many to the whole KS process in the first place.

Thus when you consider the low profit and high investment use of the money of the first KS I think that it would have been VERY hard for Reaper to simply throw more and more free stuff at people than before. As it stands we all still got fantastic deals in this KS on cheap plentiful miniatures. No one is feeling like Reaper has pried them too expensive; its more an entitled "I want more free stuff" demand - and honestly as a company Reaper could do with making more than less than 2% profit. (at the end of the day they need that profit is needed to help the company remain viable).