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I like 'em! Painted by Winterdyne?

Yeah, I didn't like the bodybuilder arms on the skaven before.. I think I'm even less fond of them now. Hmm.. wait.. does anyone sell arms like that? I think PW sells werewolf arms but I don't think they're made to hold weapons..

They look alot better now they've got some armour on their legs.

I'm liking everything I'm seeing so far for the verrmyn, even the brood mother, I just wish it was in a more interesting pose and had more options than what have been seen.

Since these are on the chunky side is should be fairly simple to GS fur onto them if you don't want to paint it on

(and that will have the added plus of de-bulging the individual muscles a bit)

I really like the paint on that brood mother though, no changes needed to her

Seeing the actual figures, I'm thinking they'll look fine in flesh tones. It'll make them look more like monsterous aliens with rat-like features rather than full on rats.

Wait...how big are they?

Large Infantry so 40mm base

 DaveC wrote:
Large Infantry so 40mm base

Just those new guys yeah?

I have a bunch of th eold Veer-myn on 25mm bases - are they still ok?

Actually, as brown or grey rats or whatever.. I'm not sure I'll ever be fond of them but I just had a thought.. These guys painted like naked mole rats might look good. Barring that, I really want a set of normal, man-sized (non-buff) furry arms to slap on and I'd probably be perfectly content! (You hear that PW, Maxmini, Mad Robot, etc????). I'd have to convert the hell out of that Brood Mother to not feel like she should be hollowed out and used as a bounce-house for a 6mm game.

Cryptek of Awesome wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
Large Infantry so 40mm base

Just those new guys yeah?

I have a bunch of th eold Veer-myn on 25mm bases - are they still ok?

Yeah they're still good these are just elite special weapon teams.

I quite like these, more then I thought i would!

 edlowe wrote:
They look alot better now they've got some armour on their legs.

That's it exactly. I quite like the Shredders now.

I doubt I'll ever like the new Veer-myn as much as Remy's old ones, but I do like them, and may well kitbash them with the old ones anyway. I plan to have quite a bit of fun with them. There really haven't been many Mantic miniatures that I haven't found good use for, even the ones I didn't care for initially. If I don't like the whole sculpt, there's usually great bits from it that I can use.

The Brood Mother as is, I dunno. Not my favorite, but on the other hand, it's nice to see Mantic take a risk and do something outside the Skaven box. Ditto on the upcoming Tangle miniature, which I'm looking forward to seeing greens or renders for.

Even so, I think I'll probably end up using the Zombicide: Black Plague Rat abomination as my brood mother. I'm just too hooked on the raggedy horror aesthetic. I don't think ratmen can ever completely escape their humorous aspect, but some models do it better than others.

I guess that all sounds pretty equivocal, but in truth, as a Veer-myn fan I'm pretty happy with this update.

I think the lack of cast fur detail still hurts the figures, especially when they attempt to paint on the fur.

I think you just have to lean into it! Go for horrible pallid slimey-looking flesh, or sleek-looking jet black flesh, or even ruddy abused/mutated-looking flesh:



After all, Rat Ogres have been around for yonks, and people have come up with just about every variation under the sun for those!

That Rat Ogre half-models the other solution to bare arms. Same as they did for the legs: add armor. Much easier to do-it-yourself sculpt on than fur, I'd guess.

Some of those texture stamps used to quickly create fur patterns in GS are pretty okay, that would be a right quick fix. Easier than armour.

Fur is really easy to sculpt. Even I manage it, and thats saying something.

Armour though... waaaay more difficult. Getting it smoothed can be really annoying. <.<

I don't buy miniatures that need me to sculpt detail on them. I may convert once in a while but adding fur to an army of ratmen? Not gonna happen.

Yeah the decision to not sculpt fur on them is weird and it´s even weirder when they decide to paint fur on them in the official paintjob.

If they had just decided to roll with it and painted them as freaky hairless rats it might have gone down better.

That's why I was suggesting a naked mole rat scheme might actually work.


I could actually.. "kinda" see them painted like that.

Well, that settles it. I'm going to paint my space skaven dudes like that, with corroded gunmetal-painted-black armor plates. Thanks MLaw!

 judgedoug wrote:
Well, that settles it. I'm going to paint my space skaven dudes like that, with corroded gunmetal-painted-black armor plates. Thanks MLaw!

No problem.. those things are so freaky looking.. I really hope you're able to recreate that feeling that makes your skin crawl looking at them.

 MLaw wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
Well, that settles it. I'm going to paint my space skaven dudes like that, with corroded gunmetal-painted-black armor plates. Thanks MLaw!

No problem.. those things are so freaky looking.. I really hope you're able to recreate that feeling that makes your skin crawl looking at them.

pinks, yellows, blues, purples - like painting one giant bruise. I'm thinking spraying with a light yellow - maybe army painter bone - and then splotchy red and purple washes, drybrush with dunkelgelb/desert yellow... hmm....

I'm not worried about the fur thing. I'm just assuming for myself that the fur is very fine and doesn't stick up at all angles. Rats are pretty meticulous about grooming themselves anyway, the only time they look bad is when their sick or maybe if they've been wet/in the gunk. Just gonna paint brown then transition to skin.

 GrimDork wrote:
I'm not worried about the fur thing. I'm just assuming for myself that the fur is very fine and doesn't stick up at all angles. Rats are pretty meticulous about grooming themselves anyway, the only time they look bad is when their sick or maybe if they've been wet/in the gunk. Just gonna paint brown then transition to skin.

The fur thing doesn't bother me so much as the arms are among the most muscular arms I've ever seen on a miniature. I would honestly prefer tufts at joints and areas effected by gravity though. On most furry creatures, the top side is smooth and the underside tends to be more noticeably bushy/furry.

 MLaw wrote:
The fur thing doesn't bother me so much as the arms are among the most muscular arms I've ever seen on a miniature.

Not even the most muscular on the same page.

Are those models the same size? Either way, I said among the most muscular. Considering the length of the Rat-Ogre's arms, if you scaled it to the same length as the uh (what are those called?) other arms, you'd see where I'm coming from. I was thinking proportionately when I typed that. *waits for the deluge of pictures of bigger arms*

I think it's a 40mm round and a 40 or 50mm square so... loosely equivalent.

Only thing I don't like about the veermyn scheme is that it's too clean looking. Probably just the painter's style-- and they look good-- but to my taste at least, they're too smooth and clean. I know they painted chips and weathering on some of the armor but the skin is just so smooth. Looks like the way you'd paint I dunno, an elf/lion centaur thing, not a dirty space rat.

They are pretty beefy, but they don't look ridiculously so to me.

They honestly don't look any more 'ridiculously beefy' than GW's rat ogres, to me at least.

But what the GW ones have is fur or armor, as others have said. Having the bare skin (and so much of it) really puts me off to the Veer-Myn. With a massive Skaven army still on my shelf, I -really- was hoping the Veer-myn would scratch a space-skaven itch I've had off and on for many years now. But they don't quite reach it... yet.

Yeah, I could customize/GS armor/fur, etc, etc. and for folks on the fence about them, that's definitely a viable (if time-consuming) option. Fur would probably be simplest, at least for my skill level (NOTHING!) it would. But I bet some folks out there could GS some serious armorplates on their arms or wherever.

I have to say, once painted, the figs -do- look much better than I first thought. I wouldn't pick yellow... (Cheese? Cowardice? Ugh), but I do think they look nicer.

 Mort wrote:
I have to say, once painted, the figs -do- look much better than I first thought. I wouldn't pick yellow... (Cheese? Cowardice? Ugh), but I do think they look nicer.

I suspect they're the victims of "All the good color schemes were already taken by our other armies."

Hmm.... what color TO paint the veermyn? Green to go with the brown? Breast cancer awareness pink? Hmm maybe grimy grey?